Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?

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Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« on: May 03, 2017, 05:10:33 PM »
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Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?

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Paul Joseph Watson
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May 3, 2017

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Why do white people get the blame for slavery when virtually every race in human history engaged in the slave trade?

Why do white people get the blame for slavery when white people were enslaved by Arabs?

Why do white people get the blame for slavery when they were the first in the world to legally end slavery?

Why do white people get the blame for slavery when white people risked their lives to help free black slaves from their Arab captors?

Why do white people get the blame for slavery when hundreds of thousands of white Americans died in a civil war partly to end slavery?

Why do white people get the blame for slavery when there are still 46 million people enslaved today – none of them in white countries?
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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 05:19:57 PM »
http://www.progress.org/tpr/fred-foldvary-on-reparations-going-all-the-way-2/

Reparations – Going All the Way

by Fred E. Foldvary
The Progress Report
December 24, 2006

Some African-Americans are calling for reparations to compensate for past slavery. Clearly there was massive theft of their labor and liberty during slavery, and if a debt is owed to the slaves, then it is not unreasonable for that compensation to be inherited.

But if one group is morally owed reparations, this principle generalizes to all groups. If we are to do reparations right, all the heirs of all those who have suffered losses in the past are owed reparations, not just of one group.

Starting with the Native American Indians, most tribes are owed reparations for the loss of their lands, culture, and violations of their treaties. But going back further, some Indian nations lost their lands and lost lives due to conquest by other Indians, so some tribes and nations owe reparations to others.

Many non-Black northerners were drafted to fight in the US Civil War, and the heirs of those who lost their lives and fortunes to fight in a war that was, in part, over slavery, are owed some compensation by the heirs of slaves. Hawaiians too lost their land and independence, and are owed reparations from other Americans.

More recent immigrants should not have to pay as much reparations as the heirs of those who were present in the US during slavery and the destruction of Indian nations. There is also massive theft that has taken place since independence in 1776, as government in the USA has stolen the wages of all workers, which diminished the wealth of our ancestors, and reduced our inheritances, so we are owed compensation from the government and from the heirs of past landowners who benefited from land grants as well as the rent that resulted from financing public works from wages rather than rent.

Native American Indians in all the Americas are owed huge reparations for the mass destruction, enslavement, and loss of independence and land by the Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, and Dutch. Black Africans are owed reparations from Europeans and Arabs for centuries of enslavement, deportation, and conquest. Europeans owe conquered Asians reparations as well. Turks owe reparations to conquered Arabs and Europeans.

In Europe, the heirs of the Romans owe compensation to Greeks and the Celtic peoples for conquering their lands. The English owe the Celtics in the UK for dispossessing them, and the Germans owe huge reparations for conquests up to World War II. The Russians owe those in Central and Eastern Europe for conquests and destruction both before and during the Soviet era.

All kinds of reparations are owed to Jewish people: Iraqis owe for the Babylonian conquest, Egyptians (and Africans in general) for enslaving the Israelites, Greeks owe reparations for the Hellenic era, Romans owe big time for destroying ancient Israel (especially Jerusalem and the temple), and Europeans (especially the Spanish, Germans, and Russians) all owe Jews settlements for centuries of death, expulsions, and oppression. But Israelis owe Arabs for taking land and destroying lives and property.

Gypsies are owed reparations by almost all European countries. Homosexuals are owed reparations by heterosexuals for centuries of persecution, and atheists are due reparations from Christians and other theists for the same. Many countries in eastern Asia are owed reparations by the Japanese for conquest and deaths in this century until the end of World War II. European Australians owe the aborigines, and both Americans and the Spanish owe the people of the Philippines for past conquest.

Europeans owe the Chinese for taking control of land during the 1800s, and the Chinese owe reparations for conquests in Tibet and the Muslim areas of western China. The Mongolians need to repay Asians and Europeans for past Mongol conquests. All communists and socialists owe reparations for everyone else for having helped impose a destructive economic system on one third of the world.

All statists owe reparations to libertarians for imposing taxes and restrictions against their will and philosophy. Heirs of all soldiers who were morally opposed to war are owed compensation.

If we are going to pay reparations, it is fair that all who are owed get their share, and this implies an international conference in which all claims are presented, counter claims are netted out, and net payments are made to the deserving heirs.

Where would the money come from? Who can judge who is a deserving heir? How can we arrive at just amounts? Can anybody know?

The alternative is to acknowledge massive injustice from everybody to everybody in a past that cannot be rationally corrected, and to seek to establish justice here and now, so that there will be no more such claims in the future.
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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 06:55:37 PM »
My understanding is that essentially every “race” has at some time enslaved every other race.  My understanding is that slaves in the US were captured by other residents of Africa for sale and eventual shipment, as a result of their “wars” there, and that without the sale of the slaves, they might have simply been killed.
Our family came to the US long after the civil war ended.  To my knowledge no one in my family had anything to do with the slave trade. 
To my understanding, in essence, the slave trade continues in a number of places today.  THOSE victims deserve our apology for not setting them free.
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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 07:59:38 PM »
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2017, 03:25:04 AM »
Comes down to this for me. A friend of a friend I know was thankful his African ancestry consisted of African slave hunters. It was the only way he made it to college even two generations plus later from the wealth it gave them.
These apologists need to live life and actually talk with people. But they only bask in their own self-prescribed intelligence. Go, and live with all those people you claim to be "in solidarity" with. You wouldn't last a week. I know that for a fact.
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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2017, 04:42:58 AM »
 NO! Because this is a form of 'Mind Slavery' for Whites; as the Dip SH*TS running things set up a new form of slavery...called 'Fake Guilt.'
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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2017, 08:56:18 AM »

St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself."

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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 01:55:10 PM »
All this talk about reparations and "white guilt" is nothing but race baiting and Soros operatives trying to start the race war so Soros can send in UN troops to overthrow America.

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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2017, 03:12:26 AM »

Personally, I don't remember anything about slaves & slavery (except what is in the history books).  I have not had any slaves, nor have I known anyone who is, or was a slave.  I believe it was white male Christian Americans who ended slavery.  At least, in our country.  Why aren't they seeking $$ from countries known for their slaves -- as in currently having slaves?

So no, I don't feel responsible.   How can reparations ask to be justified 170 years later?  Here in America, there are no parties to "slavery?"

It is ridiculous.  But, what is to be expected from these poor brain-damaged people via the educational system & big pharma.  Whine for $$ and safe spaces is the name of their game.  They are just leaves blowing in the wind not knowing where to land, driven by their emotions, unable to think or reason.   Pathetic to say the least.

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Re: Should Whites Apologize For Slavery?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 12:47:11 PM »
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