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« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2017, 01:44:58 AM »
It's interesting that you only replied to parts of a post which you have a smart aleck answer to.

The Obama admin state that only the terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki was targeted, and his son and cousin were 'collateral damage' when they were killed in a separate attack. Trump signed off on a mission which was considered a high risk of collateral damage, a mission which resulted in the killings of 9 children. Your claim of a moral distinction between them is therefore spurious to say the least.

Hmm...just so we know, do you believe that Obama was a controlled puppet? If so by who?

It's not so "interesting" if one realizes your entire post appears to be hysterical ramblings of how Obama was so transparent and accountable. Did you make a crying video after the election? The little girl that you pretend to care so much about had a dad deliberately murdered that you call a terrorist yet was not even charged with a crime. Which would actually make him a citizen. I know why he was killed - do you? The little girl that you pretend to care so much about had her 16 year old brother blown to pieces while eating a sandwich. You claim it was an 'accident" "collateral damage" just like you claim Obama's drone strikes were "transparent" and "accountable". They claimed they killed Ibrahim al-Banna, and he was just "collateral damage" and evidently you believe all this. And are now hysterical.

The Obama administration has remained mostly mum regarding Abdulrahman's death, and at times has struggled to explain it.
https://usnews.newsvine.com/_news/2013/02/05/16856963-american-drone-deaths-highlight-controversy?lite

Officials throughout the U.S. government, however, have refused to answer questions for the record about how or why Awlaki was killed Oct. 14 in a remote part of Yemen, along with eight other people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-airstrike-that-killed-american-teen-in-yemen-raises-legal-ethical-questions/2011/10/20/gIQAdvUY7L_story.html?utm_term=.8cf5509e901b

But when U.S. forces kill civilians or operations go awry in traditional war zones such as Afghanistan or Iraq, the military routinely conducts official investigations. The results are often declassified and released as public records.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-airstrike-that-killed-american-teen-in-yemen-raises-legal-ethical-questions/2011/10/20/gIQAdvUY7L_story.html?utm_term=.8cf5509e901b

Yes so transparent maybe someday you will have the clearance to read about the "investigations" done.

Obama Administration Spent Millions Against FOIA Requests
An Associated Press analysis of new U.S. data finds the Obama administration in its final year spent a record $36.2 million on legal costs defending its refusal to turn over federal records under the Freedom of Information Act.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-14/obamas-final-year-us-spent-36-million-in-records-lawsuits

They claimed this guy was targeted by the drone that killed the 16 year old american citizen and his buddies as they ate lunch, a guy who wasn't killed because he wasn't there. That's why he is still wanted....

An October 2011 claim had al-Banna killed, along with six other individuals, including some who were alleged to have been associated with AQAP and at least one (Anwar al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son and American citizen Abdulrahman al-Awlaki) who was not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Muhammad_Salih_al-Banna

Ibrahim al-Banna
Up to $5 Million Reward

https://www.rewardsforjustice.net/english/ibrahim_al_banna.html

The hysteria and hypocrisy here is staggering.
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« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2017, 04:21:50 AM »
1 month in, im not prepared to discount him yet. Too much hate from the establishment for that.

If he was everything presented in media, he wouldnt have the enemies and hatred he has from the establishment, Globalist elites, and media.

Talk is cheap. Actions are what we are looking at. .. So far his actions have been fine. And like tonight, he absolutely destroyed the dyke with his tax forms...BY GIVING IT TO HER!!! HAHAHAhahaha!

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« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2017, 12:35:02 PM »
It's not so "interesting" if one realizes your entire post appears to be hysterical ramblings of how Obama was so transparent and accountable. Did you make a crying video after the election? The little girl that you pretend to care so much about had a dad deliberately murdered that you call a terrorist yet was not even charged with a crime. Which would actually make him a citizen. I know why he was killed - do you? The little girl that you pretend to care so much about had her 16 year old brother blown to pieces while eating a sandwich. You claim it was an 'accident" "collateral damage" just like you claim Obama's drone strikes were "transparent" and "accountable". They claimed they killed Ibrahim al-Banna, and he was just "collateral damage" and evidently you believe all this. And are now hysterical.


You have now resorted to making stuff up, misprepresenting what I wrote, and more attempts at sneering jibes. Do you always throw your toys out of the pram when your errors are pointed out?

Where is the "hysteria" in my post?

Where did I say that the Obama attacks were "transparent"?

Where did i say that the obama attacks were "accountable"?

Where did i say that i believed what Obama said?

I said none of the above. You breathlessly made it all up.

I compared the two events and statements made, from the former admin and the current one. The former one said they didn't target children but 2 were killed; the current one said they didn't target children and 9 were killed. It is you who are attributing a higher standard of transparency and accountability and moral standards to the current admin, which is unwarranted. Some of us are not just buying into the Trump koolaid and are treating the current regime with equal suspicion to the previous one.

However the drone strikes have gone up under Trump and he has now handed over drone authority to the CIA which will yield ZERO transparency and accountability as a matter of POLICY - see my 'hysterical' post #65 for the explanation if you still don't get it. So yes, Trump is now officially even worse than Obama on this policy.

Drone strikes have gone up 432% since Trump took office
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/us-drone-strikes-have-gone-up-432-since-trump-took-office

Trump gave the CIA power to launch drone strikes
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-gave-cia-power-to-launch-drone-strikes-1489444374

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I know why he was killed - do you?

Please share your secret knowledge with us..

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The hysteria and hypocrisy here is staggering.

The only hypocrisy and hysterical misrepresentations on this thread are from you.

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« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2017, 12:39:41 PM »

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« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2017, 01:02:03 PM »
This thread is controlled opposition ...  Out of work slave workers of the world unite ..

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-china-idUSKBN15118V
In Davos, Xi makes case for Chinese leadership role

 By Noah Barkin and Elizabeth Piper | DAVOS, Switzerland

Chinese President Xi Jinping offered a vigorous defense of [ GLOBALISM ]  free trade at the World Economic Forum in Davos on Tuesday in a speech that underscored Beijing's desire to play a greater global role as the United States turns inward.

In the first appearance by a Chinese leader at the annual meeting of political leaders, CEOs and bankers in the Swiss Alps, Xi also cautioned other countries against blindly pursuing their national interests, in an apparent reference to the "America first" policies of Donald Trump.
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"In a world marked by great uncertainty and volatility the world is looking to China," WEF founder and chairman Klaus Schwab said before welcoming Xi to the stage.
...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/business/dealbook/world-economic-forum-davos-china-xi-globalization.html?_r=0
In Era of Trump, China’s President Champions Economic Globalization
By PETER S. GOODMAN
JAN. 17, 2017

DAVOS, Switzerland — In a world troubled by grave uncertainties over the basics governing trade, security and the mission to limit climate change, President Xi Jinping of China on Tuesday portrayed his nation as a responsible global citizen dedicated to furthering international integration.

That a leader of the People’s Republic of China can stake a claim to the mantle of leadership in the realm of free trade speaks to the unforeseen, even surreal alteration of the global order in recent months.
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« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2017, 01:22:50 PM »
^^^

... what the heck was that little girl,
reportedly born of a filthy, turncoat
traitor, doing in an Al Qaeda spider
hole in the hellhole called Yemen?
She was an American citizen?
What Son-of-a-Dog was responsible
for that?

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anwar-al-Awlaki
               I`m glad you brought that to light.

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« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2017, 02:33:16 PM »
“I respect Richard Haass, who’s on your show a lot,” Mr. Trump said. “And I like him a lot. I have a few people that I really like and respect.’

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« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2017, 02:42:01 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHJDLoGInM
The Godfather 2 "Keep Your Friends Close, But Your Enemies Closer"

“I respect Richard Haass, who’s on your show a lot,” Mr. Trump said. “And I like him a lot. I have a few people that I really like and respect.’
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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2017, 03:28:11 PM »
The youtube link I gave was the first time he made the statement, and it was on Fox and Friends. He forcefully stated his view that the familes should be 'taken out' 3 times.

He was then given multiple opportunities to walk it back or say that he really meant 'arrested' or suchlike, but he declined to do so, instead deflecting and obfuscating.

So his views on this were made very clear and were not subsequently denied.

These were from 12/05-6/2015 ... which I believe were his first
statements on the subject, the clips which I had in mind ... he was
obviously upset about the terrorists families' participating in
the mass murder ... and I believe these statements were what
set the press off.

(Note CNN Mic)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-says-sister-of-san-bernardino-attacker-knew-what-was-going-on/2015/12/05/ab2a2798-9b79-11e5-aca6-1ae3be6f06d2_video.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/06/trump_to_me_theyre_not_regular_people.html
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« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2017, 03:45:30 PM »
Sorry to interrupt . . .

Anwar Al-Awlaki may be the first American on the CIA's kill or capture list, but he was also a lunch guest of military brass at the Pentagon within months of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, Fox News has learned.



N.Y. Bomber Tied to CIA’s al-Awlaki
Rahami followed known CIA asset
Clifford Cunningham | Infowars.com - September 20, 2016
https://www.infowars.com/n-y-bomber-tied-to-cias-al-awalaki/



Chattanooga Shooter Linked to CIA, FBI Asset Anwar al-Awlaki
al-Awlaki, who dined at the Pentagon, also had ties to Ft. Hood shooting, Charlie Hebdo attack
Kit Daniels | Infowars.com - July 21, 2015
https://www.infowars.com/chattanooga-shooter-linked-to-cia-fbi-asset-anwar-al-awlaki/


http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9553

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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2017, 05:38:32 PM »
These were from 12/05-6/2015 ... which I believe were his first
statements on the subject, the clips which I had in mind ... he was
obviously upset about the terrorists families' participating in
the mass murder ... and I believe these statements were what
set the press off.

(Note CNN Mic)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-says-sister-of-san-bernardino-attacker-knew-what-was-going-on/2015/12/05/ab2a2798-9b79-11e5-aca6-1ae3be6f06d2_video.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/06/trump_to_me_theyre_not_regular_people.html

The youtube clip I posted is from 12/2/15, on Fox and Friends, and is the first time he stated that 'we have to take out the families'. Did you watch it?? Here again, click on the link and watch:

https://youtu.be/WWiaYQUV2oM?t=1m34s

The examples you posted are follow up questions a few days later, where Trump is given the opportunity to walk back what he said but does not do so.

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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2017, 05:58:26 PM »
^^^

... yes, that's very harsh sounding ... don't see
what he could have meant except to literally
go after their families because it's the only
thing that might get to them (the terrorists).
I still believe he has the idea in mind about
the recent San Bernadino situation. At any rate,
I can't see how this rant can be tied to the
Yemen deaths.
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« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2017, 06:26:44 PM »
No way Richard Haas is an enemy of Trump if that is what you are implying. too many connections two few degrees of separation between those two characters.

but the statement doesn't say anything substantive other than Trump admires Haas on an outer level. many enemies also respect each other but they still want to kill each other.

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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2017, 06:27:35 PM »
^^^

... while we are on this topic: it comes up all the time
in the Israeli/Palestine conflict. Some terrorist will
blow up a busload of Jews or a restaurant and the
Israelis will go destroy the homes/property of the
perpetrator. They want to make the statement to
the suicide bombers that although they may enter
heaven with the 29 virgins, because of their actions
their families will suffer horribly ... hoping that MAY
deter some of them. I don't have a link but I am
sure I heard a Trump interview where he explained
his rant in those terms.

Also, remember the Bin Laden raid? Without getting
into the 'reality' of this Obama action, the raid
'reportedly' killed family members of Osama - his son
and a wife of his accomplice(?). And some reports
said one of Osama's wives were shot.

GETTING BIN LADEN
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« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2017, 06:42:52 PM »
1 month in, im not prepared to discount him yet. Too much hate from the establishment for that.

If he was everything presented in media, he wouldnt have the enemies and hatred he has from the establishment, Globalist elites, and media.

Talk is cheap. Actions are what we are looking at. .. So far his actions have been fine. And like tonight, he absolutely destroyed the dyke with his tax forms...BY GIVING IT TO HER!!! HAHAHAhahaha!

Not really, giving weapons to Saudis is not fine. Filling his cabinet with swamp creatures is not fine. Ousting Flynn was not fine. Not indicting Hillary was just show obviously but he still went back on his word and even called the clinton's good people(from that level they really are nice to each other).  There are many disqualifying parts in his resume that should have kept the Donald out of the oval office but the media actually ignored the dark spots in his history.

There have been people already warning you about the Drumpf illusion that was presented to middle of America. And you have fallen into the trap without doing enough research to who Donald Trump truly is.  He never told you the full truth about the so called 'muslim' terror attacks in America and Europe actually was coordinated from intelligence agencies in Europe and America.  He never exposed Pizzagate for what it really was. Donald J Trump is full establishment lackey and everyone with two brain cells put together knew this way before his candidacy was announced. There was a Simpson's episode even predicting Trump becoming US president, as that means Someone already knew the plan way ahead of time.

Did you know Donald trump attended a Jesuit University, Fordham. His ancestry is has royal bloodlines and also Khazarian Jewish bloodlines? HE would have never have gotten to where he is today with his real estate empire without the helping hand of the hidden hand? As one of his main money business was to run a casino that transfers the money from old grandmas and grandpas and the foolish into the pockets of his corporations? Do you think that is a clean and ethical thing to do?

The establishment media is just playing the role of "enemy" of the president to boost his position and establish real credibility among the conservatives in the United States.  It is evident the way the stage play is being scripted.

I hope you can come to your senses someday and realize what the truth truly is. As well, it will only serve your own interests as well as your family since your son, might have to fight in a neocon war sometime in the near future. Best of luck and be careful of the pied pipers and the wolf in sheep's clothing.

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« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2017, 07:23:54 PM »
What was she doing there? Oh I don't know - maybe living with whatever family she had left, at least she was living..as were many women and kids until that night.

Anwar al Awlaki is long dead - killed in a targetted drone strike along with another daughter.

Since you mention it, what son-of-a-dog would kill an 8 year old girl, and a US citizen, and then say nothing about it - not even an expression of regret?
  Hi C.
             Saying nothing is in effect saying plenty...GWB and the crew wacked out hundred of thousand innocents- Iraq -in their chase for non existant WMD`s, it is almost as if the MSM AND PLENTY OF FOLKS  simply don`t want to admit this was a crime against humanity, genocide.
This was well staged by the geeks on high, planned out, on the table, opening the door to continued warfare, and terrorism globally and domestically. I have an itch I can`t scratch, the actual perpetrators of this abomination seem to have been written off, had we let these nations to their own  none of this would be taking place..That said, no one was brought up on charges, the crew walked away free as birds, many Americans didn`t see through the smokescreen of simply didn`t give a twit if their lifestyle wasn`t effected. Most elected wonders, not all, sat back and kept on getting paid, the benefits etc. on both sides of the aisle. DT is stuck in a position that requires getting this over with, former regimes gave many nations reasons to dislike us, they were creating enemys-not hands across the water.. I remain with hope the perps of this abomination are exposed and America regains honor..

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« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2017, 09:47:37 PM »
^^^

... I believe it was Gen. Schwarzkopf or Gen. Colin Powell
who said, as Bush prepared to crank up 'Desert Storm':
“YOU BREAK IT YOU OWN IT”.
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« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2017, 10:33:38 PM »
^^^

... I believe it was Gen. Schwarzkopf or Gen. Colin Powell
who said, as Bush prepared to crank up 'Desert Storm':
“YOU BREAK IT YOU OWN IT”.
           Hi Holly... Some engineers were working on the border of Kuwait, it was common for Iraqi recons to ask these guys for food though their transmission were to the Gov were disregarded. Eagle satellites were monitoring the Iraq forces gathering and Intell knew this.
   One poor gal Gov employee- blew the whistle and was confined to quarters after bring this to attention, she was put under house arrest isolated. nothing was mentioned of her again, I TRIED FOLLOWUPS on her, zip..-.Sadam, sh**tbag or not went after Kuwait because of their directional drilling, taping IRAQS OIL.
  WRITE THIS OFF AS MY OPINION, Some folks are irritated if they don`t have a source included,I do not have the time where I am at present,
however if a reader is interested it is on backloads P.P. I`m in South America and having a rough day, but I ask them sincerely to dig around.
If some view this as hearsay, so be it.
  Sadam was no saint, but he killed terrorists, it must be admitted they were a soverign nation and held a relation, though not the greatest with the USA,  intel knew of this invasion. THOSE WHO FEEL THIS WAS A TRULY SUPRISE ATTACK may consider investigation.
 Yes, they certainly broke Iraq, but I have an inkling they won`t own it.Despite the rhetoric, we created a great many reasons for this terrorist abomination, planed or unplanned. ( I say very much planned).Isn`t it ironic how this has turned into a nightmare, a true horror show, well they had a good CON, factorys of WMDs , Yellow Cake verified by of all people the Nigerians, and of course they firmly state Sadam trained terrorist,-which is BS, again no source, no time, to dig it up If some believe it is HS they can do the digging.
 You break it you own it, that I can`t get around my head that statement.

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« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2017, 10:53:30 PM »
Not really, giving weapons to Saudis is not fine. Filling his cabinet with swamp creatures is not fine. Ousting Flynn was not fine. Not indicting Hillary was just show obviously but he still went back on his word and even called the clinton's good people(from that level they really are nice to each other).  There are many disqualifying parts in his resume that should have kept the Donald out of the oval office but the media actually ignored the dark spots in his history.

There have been people already warning you about the Drumpf illusion that was presented to middle of America. And you have fallen into the trap without doing enough research to who Donald Trump truly is.  He never told you the full truth about the so called 'muslim' terror attacks in America and Europe actually was coordinated from intelligence agencies in Europe and America.  He never exposed Pizzagate for what it really was. Donald J Trump is full establishment lackey and everyone with two brain cells put together knew this way before his candidacy was announced. There was a Simpson's episode even predicting Trump becoming US president, as that means Someone already knew the plan way ahead of time.

Did you know Donald trump attended a Jesuit University, Fordham. His ancestry is has royal bloodlines and also Khazarian Jewish bloodlines? HE would have never have gotten to where he is today with his real estate empire without the helping hand of the hidden hand? As one of his main money business was to run a casino that transfers the money from old grandmas and grandpas and the foolish into the pockets of his corporations? Do you think that is a clean and ethical thing to do?

The establishment media is just playing the role of "enemy" of the president to boost his position and establish real credibility among the conservatives in the United States.  It is evident the way the stage play is being scripted.

I hope you can come to your senses someday and realize what the truth truly is. As well, it will only serve your own interests as well as your family since your son, might have to fight in a neocon war sometime in the near future. Best of luck and be careful of the pied pipers and the wolf in sheep's clothing.

Wow, you got it bad. And Hillary was a better option?

If Trump turns out to be another puppet, democracy in the US is finished  because even the sheeple will see it.

Alex Jones will have lose all credibility, as will his staff and guests. So will drudge and many other alternate media notables.

David Icke will be the only one unscathed..

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« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2017, 06:02:41 AM »
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« Reply #100 on: March 16, 2017, 07:30:31 AM »
Is that suppose to get a knee-jerk reaction?

The 4th amendment has been violated for years.  It's really not all Trump's fault.  Like he said he was left with a real mess.

So many people are expecting a magic wand to undo the unconstitutional laws that have been enacted over the years.  Trump is good but he is not a magician.

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« Reply #101 on: March 16, 2017, 07:58:17 AM »
Trump Nominates Another Goldman Banker For Key Treasury Position
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-15/trump-nominates-another-goldman-banker-key-treasury-position

In the latest creeping takeover by Goldman Sachs of the White House, overnight the White House announced that Donald Trump will nominate another Goldman Sachs banker, James Donovan, for a key financial post as deputy Treasury secretary, the White House said on Tuesday, adding another alumnus of the Wall Street investment bank to his administration. Donovan joins his former peers, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and chief Economic advisor, Gary Cohn, who are also former Goldman executives who occupy senior economic posts within the administration.
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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #102 on: March 16, 2017, 08:27:02 AM »
Goldman Sachs owns him, he will do anything they demand.

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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2017, 02:34:27 PM »
Trump Nominates Another Goldman Banker For Key Treasury Position

Which means the excuse-o-meter is pegging once again.

Trump could appoint Satan himself to a key position, and his supporters would still be all like:

"Well of course he has to appoint Satan to that position. He needs someone in there who knows how the system works. [blah blah blah]."

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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #104 on: March 16, 2017, 04:05:09 PM »
^^^

... I don't know that I would feel any better
if these three guys were from JPMorgan/Chase,
or Citigroup, or Bank of America, or Morgan Stanley.
I don't know the names of all the appointees to
Treasury Dept thus far, but I feel pretty sure
that most will be from the banking industry ...
since they will be doing banking.
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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #105 on: March 16, 2017, 07:07:22 PM »
You have now resorted to making stuff up, misprepresenting what I wrote,

Sure

Where is the "hysteria" in my post?

It starts at the beginning and ends at the end

Where did I say that the Obama attacks were "transparent"?

here

"The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability.


Where did i say that the obama attacks were "accountable"?

here

"The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability.


Where did i say that i believed what Obama said?

here

The Obama admin state that only the terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki was targeted, and his son and cousin were 'collateral damage' when they were killed


I said none of the above. You breathlessly made it all up.

LOL

Some of us are not just buying into the Trump koolaid and are treating the current regime with equal suspicion to the previous one.

Yea, sure.

President Obama signed an order in early 2010 making him the first American to be placed on the "kill or capture" list.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/02/8-year-old-daughter-anwar-al-awlaki-among-those-killed-in-yemen-raid-report-says.html

Obama set the precedent for Trump to kill you. Let's hope he has more restraint.

Even Obama passed on that mission partly because of the risk to civilian life,


So how did Trump know about it, and then give the go ahead? Did he say "anyone have any bad plans that Obama passed on that will kill innocent people?"

No...

A defense official told the Associated Press that the mission was planned by the Obama administration but authorized by Trump.
“The decision was made ... to leave it to the incoming administration, partly in the hope that more and better intelligence could be collected,” that official said.
White House spokesman Sean Spicer said the raid yielded an “unbelievable amount of intelligence.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/02/8-year-old-daughter-anwar-al-awlaki-among-those-killed-in-yemen-raid-report-says.html

A White House official said the operation was thoroughly vetted by the previous administration and that the previous defense secretary had signed off on it in January.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-commando-idUSKBN15G5RX

Perhaps some of those innocent civilians were not so innocent...

Some of the women were firing at the U.S. force, Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis told reporters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-commando-idUSKBN15G5RX

Are you equally upset with.......

Officials from multiple countries tell CNN that special forces from the UAE took part in the raid on the al Qaeda compound
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/politics/yemen-raid-daughter-al-qaeda-leader/

Trump signed off on a mission which was considered a high risk of collateral damage,

The Girls Grandfather in regards to her .....

The girl’s grandfather told the paper that he did not believe the girl was targeted.....Col. John Thomas, a spokesman for central command, told the paper that the U.S. military was unaware that the girl was at the location.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/02/8-year-old-daughter-anwar-al-awlaki-among-those-killed-in-yemen-raid-report-says.html

The girls grandfather in regards to Obama killing his 16 year old American son.....

So I don’t believe it was just an accident. They must have followed him,” Nasser said. “But they wanted to cover up the story, and that’s why they claimed that he was twenty-one years old, in order to justify his killing. Or maybe, as they mentioned, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.” He paused before adding, “I don’t think we can buy this argument.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/alleged-target-of-drone-strike-that-killed-american-teenager-is-alive-according-to-state-department/

The grandfather later....

My grandson was killed by his own government. The Obama administration must answer for its actions and be held accountable.
In 2010, the Obama administration put Abdulrahman’s father, my son Anwar, on C.I.A. and Pentagon “kill lists” of suspected terrorists targeted for death. A drone took his life on Sept. 30, 2011.

The government repeatedly made accusations of terrorism against Anwar — who was also an American citizen — but never charged him with a crime.
A country that believes it does not even need to answer for killing its own is not the America I once knew.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/how-team-obama-justifies-the-killing-of-a-16-year-old-american/264028/


Trump deliberately murders americans and their kids without charging them with anything? Actually that was Obama, and yet....

Trump is now officially even worse than Obama on this policy.

Not hysterical

The only hypocrisy and hysterical misrepresentations on this thread are from you.

the hysterics continue...

implying that he wanted to KILL more little innocent girls.
Despicable ...

For ANYONE to be called DESPICABLE by someone who dehumaizes an entire religion is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

All religions are equal right? Did you cry after the election?
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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #106 on: March 16, 2017, 08:28:00 PM »
^^

What a ridiculous waste of space.

To support your previous falsifications you've altered my posts in your quotes. LOL!

What an embarassment to this forum, and this from a 'global moderator'? How pathetic.


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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #107 on: March 16, 2017, 08:41:01 PM »
^^

What a ridiculous waste of space.

To support your previous falsifications you've altered my posts in your quotes. LOL!

What an embarassment to this forum, and this from a 'global moderator'? How pathetic.

That is not how to talk to people.

You can not win any argument with such low standards of debate.

By all means attack another members ideas, but refrain from personal attacks.
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« Reply #108 on: March 16, 2017, 08:53:52 PM »
That is not how to talk to people.

You can not win any argument if you pursue with such low standards of debate.

By all means attack another members ideas, but refrain from personal attacks.

I attacked what he wrote, not him personally.

He's apparently not interested in honest debate - when someone makes things up, misprepresents what you have written, and then, to support these misrepresentations, alters your posts in his quotes, he gives up the right to be debated with seriously.

For the record, the following are examples of his falsifying what I wrote to support his previous misrepresentations.

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Quote from: Changeling on March 14, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability.

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Quote from: Changeling on March 14, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability.

Neither is even close to what I wrote, which was:

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That's all out the window now, since according to the report Trump has now given CIA the power to directly carry out drone strikes, without using the military to pull the trigger as was the case under Obama.


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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #109 on: March 16, 2017, 09:01:05 PM »
I attacked what he wrote, not him personally.

When someone makes things up, misprepresents what you have written, and then, to support these misrepresentations, alters your posts in his quotes, he gives up the right to be responded to seriously.

For the rcord, the following are examples of his falsifying what I wrote to support his misrepresentations.

I did a computer automated search and compare.
Your assertion is incorrect.

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« Reply #110 on: March 16, 2017, 09:08:57 PM »
I did a computer automated search and compare.
Your assertion is incorrect.

Go to post #65 on this thread and you will find my actual post. jimd3100 is quoting my citation from the linked article, not what I wrote as comment.

And Trump finished the job by killing Awlaki's 8 year old daughter, also a US citizen.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki




That's all out the window now, since according to the report Trump has now given CIA the power to directly carry out drone strikes, without using the military to pull the trigger as was the case under Obama.

You won't find out about it, because CIA drone operations will be under 'covert authority' and therefore not disclosed. From article:

"The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability. The CIA, which operates under covert authorities, wasn’t required to disclose the number of suspected terrorists or civilian bystanders it killed in drone strikes. The Pentagon, however, must publicly report most airstrikes."[/b]

You could say it's a smart move from Trump. He will now not be dogged by the bad PR of having women and children blown up or burned alive by drone strikes, but they will be going on, and likely more than ever before.

Just a wild guess, but the same crowd which controlled Obama?

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« Reply #111 on: March 16, 2017, 09:50:20 PM »
Sorry. I didn't know you wanted us to ignore what you pull out and post from articles.

 
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The Obama admin state that only the terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki was targeted, and his son and cousin were 'collateral damage' when they were killed in a separate attack.

Was that from an article too?

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« Reply #112 on: March 16, 2017, 11:11:25 PM »
Sorry. I didn't know you wanted us to ignore what you pull out and post from articles.

Yeah right. You quoted it as a comment I had made, which I find disingenuous to say the least.

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Was that from an article too?

Saying "Obama admin state" does not mean or imply that I believe what they have stated.

To take my statement:

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The Obama admin state that only the terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki was targeted, and his son and cousin were 'collateral damage' when they were killed in a separate attack. Trump signed off on a mission which was considered a high risk of collateral damage, a mission which resulted in the killings of 9 children. Your claim of a moral distinction between them is therefore spurious to say the least.

And then derive from it this:

You claim it was an 'accident" "collateral damage"

..is either rather naive, which would be surprising for someone who has posted here for so long, or disingenuous, again.





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Re: Trump is Controlled Opposition - DON'T BE FOOLED!
« Reply #113 on: March 17, 2017, 07:42:13 AM »
Can we get back to discussing the Kock Bros Puppet ?
https://www.henrymakow.com/koch.html



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« Reply #114 on: March 17, 2017, 07:44:27 AM »
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« Reply #115 on: March 17, 2017, 07:51:35 AM »
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« Reply #116 on: March 17, 2017, 01:39:31 PM »
Gaslighting

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« Reply #117 on: March 17, 2017, 02:44:59 PM »
http://nypost.com/2017/03/17/trump-doesnt-shake-hands-with-merkel-during-photo-op/

President Trump did not extend his hand to shake German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s in a Friday Oval Office photo op, a courtesy he usually extends to foreign leaders visiting the white House.

Trump sat next to Merkel in front of a fireplace for the brief photo-op.

“Very good,” Trump said to assembled reporters when asked about what the two leaders discussed. “Lots of things.”

“Very good, thanks,” Merkel said in German.

But Trump hardly looked at Merkel and, when the photo op ended, didn’t move in for a handshake.

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When reporters asked whether there would be a handshake, Merkel leaned in and appeared to ask, “Do you want to have a handshake?”

Trump did not even look back at her.


Gaslighting[/size]


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« Reply #118 on: March 17, 2017, 03:22:40 PM »
OMG

The paper I got that photo from has now changed the headline too :
Awkward! Trump ignores Merkel's request for a handshake as they meet in the Oval Office for the first time (unlike his infamous hand-holding with Theresa May)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4324542/Trump-Merkel-hold-face-face-talks-White-House.html
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« Reply #119 on: March 17, 2017, 03:41:45 PM »
They changed it again - same article
No Oval Office handshake, no warm words about her country, a lecture on immigration and a wiretapping smack: Even Ivanka can't lift Trump's VERY chilly summit with Germany's Merkel

IMPORTANT - Oval Office QUALIFICATION

This such a childish its a distraction.

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