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« Reply #120 on: August 05, 2008, 03:33:45 PM »

Silver is also down to $16.22

I want to buy some more gold now that the price is below $900 again, but historically gold has followed the price of oil. What IF oil drops to $50 a barrel? Gold too will then drop significantly as well. Yikes.
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« Reply #121 on: August 05, 2008, 03:41:54 PM »

Silver is also down to $16.22

I want to buy some more gold now that the price is below $900 again, but historically gold has followed the price of oil. What IF oil drops to $50 a barrel? Gold too will then drop significantly as well. Yikes.

It does not matter how low gold drops after you purchase. The important price is the initial price you buy at. Once you have purchased gold the value is "locked in" regardless of how low it drops. If gold drops to say $500 that just means that the economy is booming and everything is great.

I never think of my gold as an investment like real estate a stock or an option or a future. The value of gold never increases. Its relative value compared to other commodities changes.

Do some research on trading the ratio between gold and silver if you are interested in increasing your gold investment.
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« Reply #122 on: August 05, 2008, 03:53:00 PM »

If I am the one at the end of the loop and I end up with a hand full of gold my dog would even have a hard time eating that.
I guess I could make 1 more bullet!
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« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2008, 02:00:43 AM »

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I want to buy some more gold now that the price is below $900 again, but historically gold has followed the price of oil. What IF oil drops to $50 a barrel? Gold too will then drop significantly as well. Yikes.

You could wait for oil to hit $50 per barrel, taking gold with it, all the while hoping that the US dollar and/or the financial system doesn't collapse before you have a chance to protect yourself, or you could protect at least some of your wealth and buy some gold now at what is already a bargain price.

You just have to ask yourself which scenario is the most likely to happen first.
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« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2008, 03:04:28 AM »

Take note of expert investors such as Jim Sinclair, George Shultz and Jim Rogers: get out of the US dollar and invest at least some of it into gold while you still can.
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« Reply #125 on: August 06, 2008, 03:28:39 AM »


1) It's true that gold (or any metal) can't be invented out of thin air.
2) 85% to 90% of the gold has been and still is held by the illuminati.
3) Most sales of gold are infact not sales since no one actually takes physical possession of it (See the LME in London)
4) The most damning of the whole thing is that it's fully possible to make gold from mercury by bombing their nukeli with neutrons. Do you think that they have technology you don't, especially in the energy field. Cost free energy would mean cost free gold as well.
5) The investment into gold could just as well have been spent on making you more independent and less "interdependent" on them.
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« Reply #126 on: August 06, 2008, 04:40:28 AM »

It does not matter how low gold drops after you purchase. The important price is the initial price you buy at. Once you have purchased gold the value is "locked in" regardless of how low it drops. If gold drops to say $500 that just means that the economy is booming and everything is great.

I never think of my gold as an investment like real estate a stock or an option or a future. The value of gold never increases. Its relative value compared to other commodities changes.

Do some research on trading the ratio between gold and silver if you are interested in increasing your gold investment.

I totally agree.  Gold should be thought of as money insurance, and not a vehicle to be used for chasing profits.

It's also important to note that the USDX was ~2.7 points lower just a few weeks ago than it is right now.  The fundamentals have not changed.  This phony dollar rally will not last, and when it's over, the price of gold will respond accordingly.   
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« Reply #127 on: August 06, 2008, 06:20:35 PM »

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« Reply #128 on: August 06, 2008, 06:21:15 PM »

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« Reply #129 on: August 06, 2008, 08:25:42 PM »

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« Reply #130 on: August 06, 2008, 08:32:21 PM »

1) It's true that gold (or any metal) can't be invented out of thin air.
2) 85% to 90% of the gold has been and still is held by the illuminati.
3) Most sales of gold are infact not sales since no one actually takes physical possession of it (See the LME in London)
4) The most damning of the whole thing is that it's fully possible to make gold from mercury by bombing their nukeli with neutrons. Do you think that they have technology you don't, especially in the energy field. Cost free energy would mean cost free gold as well.
5) The investment into gold could just as well have been spent on making you more independent and less "interdependent" on them.

I've one quarrel with this line of thinking, and that's that mercury is not a plentiful resource, either. It looks like an infinite regress problem - even hydrogen takes a lot of energy to conjure out of the air.

For my part, I'll take a form of money I can hold on to over paper any day. Even if "The Illuminati" held most of the gold, that's no different than the fact "they" can print fiat money whenever they wish, and with gold they couldn't inflate away the value of the capital holdings you did have.

The only disadvantage I can think of to gold is that it invites robbery by main force moreso than fiat money (I didn't know until recently that the tower of London was originally a bank, and it's holdings were seized by the crown, which is an interesting story), which they can just steal from you through legislative means. It seems this is why gold and guns go together. I'd always kind of thought before that the talk about the 'growing gap between the rich and the poor' was a sort of socialist hogwash intended to obscure an increasing level of wealth in society from production, and then I woke up and realized that the culture we all take issue with is simply based on theft, or forcible transfer of value from one group to another. If we could all just 'get along' and quit engaging in theft from each other, then gold would be an ideal analog for value, it's mass an easily divisible, durable "measuring stick".
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« Reply #131 on: August 07, 2008, 07:33:18 AM »



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« Reply #132 on: August 07, 2008, 07:40:47 AM »

I clicked and got spammed with popups! Thanks!
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« Reply #133 on: August 07, 2008, 07:45:05 AM »

shouldnt be sorry if it did I clicked it again it works fine.
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« Reply #134 on: August 07, 2008, 07:53:04 AM »

No big deal really, just a heads up to others. ImageShack does that. I've experienced popups with images from them several times in the past.
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« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2008, 09:53:37 AM »

Gold price is be manipulated again driving down the price ..

http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/

*NYMEX Crude Oil -2.29 -2.15% 104.05
 Gold -14.50 -1.81% 788.00


Sep 9 11:46am † Change %Change Level
 
 Dow -68.23 -0.59% 11,442.51
 NASDAQ -12.08 -0.53% 2,257.68
 S&P -14.62 -1.15% 1,253.17
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« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2008, 10:35:54 AM »

now, the thread is right again....gold dropping fast.  now at 787?  damn...

does this mean time to buy?
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« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2008, 01:50:18 PM »

Yeah, buy if you can get some. The coin shops here have very little. I can see how the reports of manipulation of the gold price is true. Its in very high demand with limited supplies, but it goes down in value?

Also a strange thing happening with the dollar. Its rallied 10% agains our currency in a very short time. Dollar purchases by central banks to protect their investments?
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« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2008, 02:07:46 PM »

I've just had a look at a currency chart and I don't see the dollar up 10% against any currency.
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« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2008, 02:20:56 PM »

Hey! The Dow is down 2.43%. I guess it's time for another bailout. Who's next on the list?  Grin
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« Reply #140 on: September 09, 2008, 02:21:47 PM »

Hey! The Dow is down 2.43%. I guess it's time for another bailout. Who's next on the list?  Grin

Lehman is on deck.
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« Reply #141 on: September 09, 2008, 02:23:47 PM »

i think i will take this storable food thing a little more seriously.
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« Reply #142 on: September 09, 2008, 02:24:57 PM »

Lehman it is then. Pass Hank the check book.
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« Reply #143 on: September 09, 2008, 02:26:25 PM »

Yeah, buy if you can get some. The coin shops here have very little. I can see how the reports of manipulation of the gold price is true. Its in very high demand with limited supplies, but it goes down in value?

Steve Quayle has stated on his front page for the last 3 weeks.... SPOT PRICES ARE IRRELEVANT. Dealers will take orders but can't supply. So how (or who) is determining these prices?
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« Reply #144 on: September 09, 2008, 02:32:44 PM »

Hey! The Dow is down 2.43%. I guess it's time for another bailout. Who's next on the list?  Grin
Stay tuned Friday evening! 2 for 1 specials (Lehman & WaMU), if they can last til Friday  Embarrassed
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« Reply #145 on: September 09, 2008, 02:35:23 PM »

i'll start the bidding at 45 bucks
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« Reply #146 on: September 09, 2008, 02:38:29 PM »

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« Reply #147 on: September 09, 2008, 03:51:55 PM »

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Steve Quayle has stated on his front page for the last 3 weeks.... SPOT PRICES ARE IRRELEVANT. Dealers will take orders but can't supply. So how (or who) is determining these prices?

http://news.silverseek.com/TedButler/1220986679.php

(Don't ask me to explain it.)
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« Reply #148 on: September 09, 2008, 03:57:22 PM »

look on ebay...if gold is about 780 an ounce, then why are they selling 1oz gold ingots for $990???

i aked the guy who was selling it, and he said it is for the colectability of it.

pay 200 bucks for the collectibility of a piece of gold put in a freakin mold?  WHATEVER!

so, it's hard to find gold at spot.
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« Reply #149 on: September 09, 2008, 03:59:52 PM »

I've just had a look at a currency chart and I don't see the dollar up 10% against any currency.

Well, not more than a few months ago a dollar cost 4,95 NOK. It was 5,68 yesterday. I check out the dollar daily.
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« Reply #150 on: September 09, 2008, 04:02:04 PM »

Okay, that explains it. Your currency is not on the list at Kitco.
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« Reply #151 on: September 09, 2008, 04:04:30 PM »

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...so, it's hard to find gold at spot.

I think you be hard pressed to find gold at spot even if we weren't currently trapped in Upside Down World. I regard the spot prices for precious metals as a mythical number. More often than not, you have to pay a premium over spot to get what you want.
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« Reply #152 on: September 09, 2008, 04:13:43 PM »

look on ebay...if gold is about 780 an ounce, then why are they selling 1oz gold ingots for $990???

i aked the guy who was selling it, and he said it is for the colectability of it.

pay 200 bucks for the collectibility of a piece of gold put in a freakin mold?  WHATEVER!

so, it's hard to find gold at spot.

I agree. I just now ordered a $5 which is just shy of 1/4 oz at $240 at a coin dealer and thats about as low as I can find anywhere. Generally you americans at least historically would get gold and silver coins cheaper than here. But the Silver Eagle is even much more expensive. The lowest price from the dealers is $29. I bought 12 of them anyway amd the strange thing is that most often they want even more for these on auction sites. I guess thet are in high demand.
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« Reply #153 on: September 10, 2008, 02:15:41 PM »

http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/

*NYMEX Crude Oil -0.68 -0.66% 102.58


 Gold -29.50 -3.72% 762.50


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« Reply #154 on: September 10, 2008, 03:21:16 PM »

"There is a finite amount of gold available. It can't be manufactured from combining other materials despite the best efforts of alchemists."

I wouldn't ever say I bet my life there is no way they can make gold as you would not like paying off on that one . It has been done . It can be produced for under $100 a pound . Why the f**k do you think I keep saying don't buy gold . They can make it worth the same as copper if they want . People and their greed amaze me , we can never be free because of it .
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« Reply #155 on: September 10, 2008, 03:26:53 PM »

gold and silver falling.

http://www.kitco.com/market/

GOLD
 09/10/2008
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 752.00
 754.00
 -24.00
 -3.09%
 750.70
 784.40
 
  SILVER
 09/10/2008
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 10.62
 10.70
 -0.62
 -5.52%
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 11.66
 
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« Reply #156 on: September 10, 2008, 04:39:48 PM »

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I wouldn't ever say I bet my life there is no way they can make gold as you would not like paying off on that one . It has been done . It can be produced for under $100 a pound .

Thanks for that. That's interesting. I've never heard that stated before.

I think I heard once that it can be made in very minute quantities in some sort of artificial nuclear type of reaction but not in practical quantities at a cost of under $100 a pound.

Can you provide further information, links etc?
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« Reply #157 on: September 10, 2008, 04:57:45 PM »

Thanks for that. That's interesting. I've never heard that stated before.

I think I heard once that it can be made in very minute quantities in some sort of artificial nuclear type of reaction but not in practical quantities at a cost of under $100 a pound.

Can you provide further information, links etc?

Ive heard that about diamonds, not gold. Esquared... can you offer any links to gold being made for $100 a pound?
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« Reply #158 on: September 10, 2008, 05:39:00 PM »

Gold / Silver Ratio is now 70.83!

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« Reply #159 on: September 10, 2008, 05:51:28 PM »

Ive heard that about diamonds, not gold. Esquared... can you offer any links to gold being made for $100 a pound?
Spectre is along the right direction . I do not know how it works but I know what I have seen . This is not the sort of thing that can be done by just anyone . It was explained that they found a way to recreate things at a molecular level , they breed it in a type of reactor . He was speaking english but he may as well been speaking french as I did not understand what he was telling me . If you do not take into account the cost of the device which is in the hundreds of millions the actual cost of the material needed to make the gold that is the cost . Some of the things I have been around can not be easily explained . I have read references a few times on line presented as a theory of creating a reactor to make things which is how people get something out they can not openly talk about it .
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