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Offline Rex

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Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:59:11 PM »
Obama admitted that the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of the Ukraine:

http://www.infowars.com/obama-admits-u-s-overthrew-democratically-elected-ukrainian-government/

President Trump should announce a "change of course" on America's Ukraine policy.  He should:
  • Say that what happened on Obama's watch was wrong,
  • Say that America's deep state bureaucracy was bad, very bad, to install fascists, and
  • His administration will reassess policy in the Ukraine.
Such an announcement would have several beneficial effects:
  • It would show that Trump is not a fascist after all, he's FIGHTING fascism,
  • Be a shot across the bow of the deep state (which is currently trying to remove him from office), and
  • Begin a reduction of tensions along the Ukraine/Russia border
Or so it seems to me.

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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2017, 04:14:11 PM »
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 04:40:08 PM »
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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 04:50:50 PM »
A truly great online resource you've built.

Thx EG! Glad you are back to forum.  ;)
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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 05:35:39 PM »
Obama admitted that the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of the Ukraine:

http://www.infowars.com/obama-admits-u-s-overthrew-democratically-elected-ukrainian-government/

President Trump should announce a "change of course" on America's Ukraine policy.  He should:
  • Say that what happened on Obama's watch was wrong,
  • Say that America's deep state bureaucracy was bad, very bad, to install fascists, and
  • His administration will reassess policy in the Ukraine.
Such an announcement would have several beneficial effects:
  • It would show that Trump is not a fascist after all, he's FIGHTING fascism,
  • Be a shot across the bow of the deep state (which is currently trying to remove him from office), and
  • Begin a reduction of tensions along the Ukraine/Russia border
Or so it seems to me.

No it is too much for American public. MSM : "We told that Trump is Russian spy".
First, US President Trump should meet with Russian President Putin. After meeting together statement.
Step by step. Washington not "fired" Ukraine for a night. Ask Victoria Nuland. 
Later, US President Trump throw US Congress bill with lift sanctions against Russia.
Step by step. Point by point.

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Re: Trump rebukes Russia over Ukraine and demands return of Crimea
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 05:36:01 PM »
Obama admitted that the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of the Ukraine:

http://www.infowars.com/obama-admits-u-s-overthrew-democratically-elected-ukrainian-government/

President Trump should announce a "change of course" on America's Ukraine policy.  He should:
  • Say that what happened on Obama's watch was wrong,
  • Say that America's deep state bureaucracy was bad, very bad, to install fascists, and
  • His administration will reassess policy in the Ukraine.



Such an announcement would have several beneficial effects:
  • It would show that Trump is not a fascist after all, he's FIGHTING fascism,
  • Be a shot across the bow of the deep state (which is currently trying to remove him from office), and
  • Begin a reduction of tensions along the Ukraine/Russia border
Or so it seems to me.

He should do this, but it is a rather unrealistic prospect.

Instead, Trump has denounced Russian actions in Ukraine, demanded that they return Crimea to Ukraine, and stated that sanctions will not be removed until they do. He is pure establishment switch-game.

As Trump would say: Sad!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-latest-tweet-accuse-crimea-obama-too-soft-distance-campaign-team-white-house-a7581511.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-expects-putin-return-crimea-ukraine

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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 08:58:52 PM »
Yes, I know, unrealistic.  But who knows?  Being a Trump supporter is like being in the crew on the Pequod, waiting to see what Ahab will do next.  Keeps you guessing.

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Re: Trump rebukes Russia over Ukraine and demands return of Crimea
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2017, 09:40:45 AM »
He should do this, but it is a rather unrealistic prospect.

Instead, Trump has denounced Russian actions in Ukraine, demanded that they return Crimea to Ukraine, and stated that sanctions will not be removed until they do. He is pure establishment switch-game.

As Trump would say: Sad!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-latest-tweet-accuse-crimea-obama-too-soft-distance-campaign-team-white-house-a7581511.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-expects-putin-return-crimea-ukraine

Sad, but true.

The Donald is welcome to change my mind by acknowledging the referendum in Crimea and The Right To Self Determination of the Crimean People.


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Re: Trump should apologize for Obama's overthrow of Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2017, 10:51:15 AM »
Yes, I know, unrealistic.  But who knows?  Being a Trump supporter is like being in the crew on the Pequod, waiting to see what Ahab will do next.  Keeps you guessing.

... it looks to me like DT knows he has some difficult
days ahead, in talks with Putin ... US & RUSSIA must
come together and try to sort out this f'n mess. No
doubt he understands the situation in Ukraine, the
overthrow of the pro-Russian govt by globalist
EU-seeking radicals with US/SOROS backing ... he
understands that Crimea & other Eastern provinces
SHOULD return to Russia ... BUT ... DT feels he must
hold somewhat of a 'hard line' as a bargaining chip ...
he feels he needs to gain something for USA in other
areas as he concedes the Ukraine situation, bit by bit.
St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself."