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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: 9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban. Court rules against Trump (All 3 judges agreed)


http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/travel-ban-9th-circuit-ruling/index.html

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-loses-travel-ban-appeal/

http://abc7news.com/politics/appeals-court-refuses-to-reinstate-trumps-travel-ban/1746649/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/federal-appeals-court-refuses-to-reinstate-trump-travel-ban/

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/318327-appeals-court-rejects-trump-on-travel-ban


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The administration can now ask the Supreme Court to immediately intervene, which legal experts think is likely, or wait until a ruling on the preliminary injunction order. The high court is currently shorthanded with eight justices. If there is a split decision, the lower court’s ruling would be upheld.

“We're going to take it through the system,” Trump told reporters during a meeting with sheriffs at the White House, before the ruling came down. “It's very important for the country.”


The Ruling
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3457913/Travel-Ban-Decision.pdf
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Dershowitz: Lawsuit Against Trump Order Still Has ‘A Very, Very, Uphill Fight’ To Win at SCOTUS
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/09/dershowitz-lawsuit-against-trump-order-still-has-a-very-very-uphill-fight-to-win-at-scotus/


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Dershowitz said that while Washington State got it what it wanted in its suit against the government, “t doesn’t mean they’re going to win ultimately on the merits. They still have a very, very uphill fight to persuade the Supreme Court that: A. The state of Washington has standing. B. That you can apply the Constitution to people who have never been in the country who are simply seeking a visa for the first time.”


He claims that this is a threat to the national security of the United States. If he’s right, then he has only one option: Rescind the order, start from scratch, write a new order with his new attorney general, with the cooperation, perhaps of members of Congress, that will both protect the security of the United States, and avoid constitutional challenge. That’s his best option right now.”

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This is not unexpected, but the ruling does go into some detail, and it is not difficult to read, so I recommend people read it before jumping down these judges' throats, particularly sections V-IX.

The following are just some key points, and are not exhaustive.

All citng precendent:

-The President's order is not unreviewable by the courts.

-The burden of proof to justify a stay is on the government.

-The government has not shown that irreparable harm will ensue if a stay is not granted nor that they are likely to succeed in their appeal.

-States have shown substantial harm if a stay is granted and the EO reinstated.

-5th Amdt due process applies to all persons in the US, even those here unlawfully, not just citizens.

-The Executive Order does not allow due process for residents who have constitutional rights or citizens who have an interest in an alien's application for entry.

-On public interest, the freedom of travel, avoidance of discrimination, and avoidance of separation of families, trumps the hitherto undefined security interest.

-Judgement reserved on religious descrimination claims.


My question about all this remains: Given that falling donkeys harm more people in the US than persons from these seven countries, what is the threat to national security which is being addressed by this EO? Or is it just a preliminary step which ultimately will lead to more stringent security at home - to check for the boogeymen already here - and we know, or should know, who these measures are ultimately aimed at.

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... as Trump has said ... if violent nutcases from among these
'migrants' flooding in before the ban is implemented commit
crimes or terroism ... the blood is on the hands of those
judges out in la-la land, the Ninth Circus:


77% of refugees allowed into U.S. since travel
reprieve hail from seven suspect countries

Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times -
Thursday, February 9, 2017

EXCERPT:
"A staggering 77 percent of the 1,100 refugees let in since Judge James L. Robart’s Feb. 3 order have been from the seven suspect countries. Nearly a third are from Syria alone — a country that Mr. Trump has ordered be banned altogether from the refugee program. Another 21 percent are from Iraq. By contrast, in the two weeks before Judge Robart’s order, just 9 percent of refugees were from Syria and 6 percent were from Iraq".

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/9/refugees-entering-us-doubled-rate-ruling-trump-tra/

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Syrian President ASSAS says: "... some refugees are ‘definitely’ terrorists."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-syrias-assad-tells-yahoo-news-some-refugees-are-definitely-terrorists-182401926.html
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Trump probably has the right to order at least some some of what is in the EO, but his entitled and petulant tweets during this affair have done him no favors, and frankly, he continues to be an embarassment to the country.

What does Trump know about the law and constitution? The Constitution means nothing to Trump - he mentioned it 0 times during his inauguration speech, and during the campaign only seemed to know about the 2nd Amendment.

Ridiculous fearmongering complete garbage. Hey Trump, how many people from those countries have even arrested for any plots against this country, let alone been found to commit any terror acts? This is a question which Judge Robart asked at the hearing:

http://www.voanews.com/a/seattle-judge-travel-ban-conservative-/3706748.html
Just wait until Chapter 2 or 3 of this theatre which will be massive fearmongering of non-existent cyber threats.  Non-existent in the context that they will SHOVE DOWN OUR THROATS, but real ONLY in the sense that once again, they will be FALSE FLAGS perpetrated by the TERRORIST US GOVERNMENT.  This has been proven thousands of times on this forum.

Donald Trump says Americans should hold judge who blocked travel ban responsible if US is attacked
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/04/donald-trump-slams-so-called-judge-blocked-ban-vows-overturn/
Why can't you and others see that this is the perfect setup for a FALSE FLAG blamed yet again on some foreign patsy? 
Shameless fearmongering. Just like Dubya's "you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" spiel.
^^^EXACTLY.
OBAMA GAO REPORT BACKS TRUMP
ON TOUGHER AIRLINE SCREENING

Security expert warns there's no way to know how many threats slip through
02/06/2017 - LEO HOHMANN

A newly released Government Accounting Office study reveals more than 22,000 U.S.-bound foreign travelers were banned from boarding their flights in fiscal 2015.

These “high risk” travelers were interdicted by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents before boarding planes bound for the U.S. Among that group, 10,648 were deemed permanently inadmissible while the remaining 11,589 were told they could not board with the paperwork presented.

The GAO study goes on to lament that netting 22,000 suspect travelers reveals nothing about the pre-boarding program’s effectiveness. That’s because CPB has failed to develop a baseline system of assessing how many of the overall high-risk travelers are caught before boarding the planes and showing up at a U.S. airport, which is the last line of defense against potential terrorists.
The very existence of DHS/TSA is unconstitutional, they were fraudulently justified using problem reaction solution--US intel agencies, Goldman Sachs, AIG, US defense contractors carried out 9/11, sold the dumbass American sheep on the Saudi narrative to deflect attention from the aforementioned.  Your entire post invokes the offical government terrorism fearmongering, "you have to let us take away all your rights or the terrorists will kill you!".

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... why? Because we are involved in WAR in most or
all of those countries and are about to
BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF 'EM (ISIS).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8
Holy f*cking shit.  ISIS, the rebadged name for the CIA's Al-Qaeda, you know the same CIA that Trump has "such respect for"?  Yeah, Trump has great respect for THE TERRORISTS THAT ARE THE CIA, what does that make him?  Here's a newsflash:  ISIS is a euphemism for YOU, for ALL Americans, and ANYONE that is not part of the club.

We are not at war with ANY of those countries. Congress makes declarations of war. Rule by decree and Executive Order have become rather fashionable in some quarters since the Twitt-in-Chief was installed in office, but it is no less unconstitutional a manner to go about things now than under the Obama regime.

However we know how little Trump thinks of the Constitution, so I fear these concerns will not trouble him much. The very last thing we needed in the White House was a stooge of the zionists and neocons, following orders from his superior Netanyahoo, with very little knowledge and experience of his own and  therefore entirely manipulable; but that is what we have unfortunately.

Any evidence for that... waffle...? And no, emotive pics and youtube videos do not count.

It's not my argument as it happens, which you would know if you had made sure you understood what was written before replying to it. However you are also wrong (imagine my surprise) about the case being made by the appellees, which of course you haven't read and/or understood. But in any case, you shouldn't even bother trying to debate the Constitution especially after your performance in this thread:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=318645.msg1616872#msg1616872
^  The only person in this thread that has actual critical thinking skills and doesn't spend hours a day listening to stupid podcasts to get their daily soundbites so they can imagine that they're bringing something substantive to the table.
Chris , I don't want to divert this thread into Israel/Palestine, but my reply to you is pretty much as it was here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=318459.msg1615272#msg1615272

I did not say that Trump ignores the Constitution - he would need to know what is in the document first. I said he does not concern himsel with it - he does not care about it. How many times have you heard him talk about the Constitution? If you exclude his demagogic references to the 2nd amendment during the campaign, it is virtually none. Compare that to someone sensible and educated on the subject like Rand Paul, and you get the point. Also, as I have said before,  Trump actively holds the constitution in contempt when, for example, he spoke in favor of the mass surveillance of the American people, which is a violation of the 4th amendment.
^^ Exactly.  We all have the inalienable right to NOT be surveilled.  Surveillance of the American people IS ILLEGAL. There is no justification of it, no matter how many people die in the CIA's next FALSE FLAG ATTACK blamed on 'MUSLIMS' or 'hackers', or fictitious threats like "Adam Lanza" archetypes, 'homegrown' patsies.  Surveillance is an act of war against the American people, it's purpose is to ENSLAVE, CONTROL, STEAL, COERCE, FORCE COMPLIANCE, et.al.

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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: 9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban. Court rules against Trump (All 3 judges agreed)


http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/travel-ban-9th-circuit-ruling/index.html

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-loses-travel-ban-appeal/

http://abc7news.com/politics/appeals-court-refuses-to-reinstate-trumps-travel-ban/1746649/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/federal-appeals-court-refuses-to-reinstate-trump-travel-ban/

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/318327-appeals-court-rejects-trump-on-travel-ban


The Ruling
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3457913/Travel-Ban-Decision.pdf

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Turley: Trump Making Same Arguments as Obama in Defense of Immigration Executive Order
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/09/turley-trump-making-arguments-obama-defense-immigration-executive-order/

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Although the court ruled in the opponents of the Trump order’s favor, the law still was on Trump’s side and that the Trump administration was using the “virtually the identical arguments” the Obama administration had used in defense of its immigration policy.

“Well, it was a poorly crafted executive order, and it was a terrible rollout,” Turley said. “But I still think that the law favors the administration once you get to the merits. I don’t agree with many of those, some of those cases. But the courts have been highly deferential to the president, and they generally don’t second-guess. I think the people also have to acknowledge that the Trump administration here is making virtually the identical argument to the Obama administration.”

“The Obama administration argued the president’s judgment on administration was largely unreviewable,” he continued. “He argued that he could even refuse or order the failure to enforce immigration laws. But the arguments were very, very similar. And for all the Democrats objecting now, I didn’t hear a peep of objection from them when just last year these arguments were being made by the same Justice Department.”
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Andrew Napolitano: 9th Circuit Ruling ‘Intellectually Dishonest’
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/09/napolitano-9th-circuit-ruling-intellectually-dishonest/


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Napolitano said, “The statute specifically says the president on his own, by proclamation, meaning he doesn’t have to consult with anybody else, can make the decision. The decision to ban is not reviewable. Judges are incapable of second-guessing the president on it. For that reason, he may be thinking the Supreme Court is going to invalidate it.”

“I don’t know which way the Supreme Court is going to go and I don’t know which court he had in mind, but this is an intellectually dishonest piece of work the 9th Circuit has produced tonight because it essentially consists of substituting the judgment of three judges for the President of the United States when the Constitution unambiguously gives this area of jurisdiction, foreign policy, exclusively to the president,” he added.
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Scarborough: 9th Circuit Ruling Is ‘Laughable,’ ‘Will Be Overturned’ (I dont care for this guy but another opinion)
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/10/scarborough-9th-circuit-ruling-laughable-will-overturned/


“Our law professors always told us — bad facts made bad law,” he said. “Horrific facts coupled with horrific politics makes for horrific law. That’s exactly what happened here.”

“This decision, though, is laughable,” Scarborough conitnued. “This is, for me, the most disturbing part of the entire case. And by the way, at the end, this isn’t going to matter because I think the White House is going to fix it up, briefly fix it up. They could do a couple quick changes and take care of these problems. But the Ninth said, ‘The government has pointed to no evidence that any alien from any of the countries named in the order have perpetrated a terrorist attack in the United States.’ As if it is the executive branches job to actually get the Intel community in and say these are all the things that are going to happen. No, in fact, Barack Obama worked with a bipartisan Congress to come up with these seven countries, not because there was specific attacks, but because they saw deteriorating security situation that they wanted to remedy. They wanted to prevent attacks. That’s the entire purpose of that.”

“This will be overturned,” he added.
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Krauthammer: 9th Circuit Ruling ‘A Disgraceful Conclusion’ (Not the best source for info, but an opinion)

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/09/krauthammer-9th-circuit-ruling-a-disgraceful-conclusion/
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Seattle Judge is Wrong and Overreached With Nationwide Injunction on Travel Ban
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/seattle-judge-is-wrong-and-overreached-by-issuing-nationwide-injunction-on-travel-ban/

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Unlike state courts, federal courts enjoy the possibility of national reach in their decision. Due to the risk of conflicting decisions within the courts, venue-shopping by litigants (note how the ACLU, CAIR and the Attorney Generals arenʼt suing in any Trump states), and the interference with the executive branch of government in their daily duties, the Supreme Court established precedents — precedents being what constitutes “evidence” for lawyers about what the law says — to limit this problem from occurring.

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Just like every Senator looks in the mirror and sees a President, many federal judges look in the mirror and see a philsopher-king who the world should accept as a benevolent ruler. They arenʼt. His biggest name to fame has been controversial rulings and statements in the Amherst expulsion case and a black lives matter controversy. Judge Robart might make an interesting President. But America didnʼt elect him President. Heʼs never been elected to anything.  His judicial superiors are about to remind him of that.
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Media miss major policy shift in Trump's immigration order - Amid rancor over 'ban,' administration identifies 'heart of the problem'

http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/media-miss-major-policy-shift-in-trumps-immigration-order/


http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=12514




STATE DEPT. REVOLTS AGAINST TRUMP FOR SECURING BORDER - Clinton cronies at State DOUBLED the inflow of Muslim migrants after 9th Circuit ruling (The globalists are using immigrants to undermine the country. This is a serious issue that must be stopped.)

http://www.infowars.com/state-dept-revolts-against-trump-for-securing-border/
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TRUMP MUST BREAK JUDICIAL POWER - Pat Buchanan: 'A clipping of the court's wings is long overdue'

http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/trump-must-break-judicial-power/


Whether the roll-out of the president’s temporary travel ban was ill-prepared or not, and whether one agrees or not about which nations or people should be subjected to extreme vetting, the president’s authority in the matter of protecting the borders and keeping out those he sees as potentially dangerous is universally conceded.

That a district judge would overrule the president of the United States on a matter of border security in wartime is absurd.

When politicians don black robes and seize powers they do not have, they should be called out for what they are – usurpers and petty tyrants. And if there is a cause upon which the populist right should unite, it is that elected representatives and executives make the laws and rule the nation. Not judges, and not justices.


Two  major problems with court system are:  ONE- migration to international law, global govt. This must stop. It undermines the US Constitution. SECOND- Liberals ruling from the  bench.  This must be dealt with or it will continue to undermine the Constitution thus the whole judicial system:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=313975.msg1587424#msg1587424
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10098
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=4381

Undermining The Constitution
http://www.barefootsworld.net/nortonuc17.html

THERE ARE MULTIPLE ISSUES INVOLVED IN THIS CASE, MANY BEHIND THE SCENES. VERY COMPLICATED. IN THE END, ITS ABOUT RECLAIMING THE COURTS FROM MANY WHO HAVE BEEN UNDERMINING (including from the top court) IT ON MANY FRONTS. HOPEFULLY, THIS CASE WILL OPEN UP DISCUSSION ON THE MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT THREATEN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
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A Sixth Sense: 6th Circuit Has Surpassed the 9th as the Most Reversed Appeals Court

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/a_sixth_sense_6th_circuit_has_surpassed_the_9th_as_the_most_reversed_appeal/

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For some time, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has suffered a reputation as being the circuit most at odds with the U.S. Supreme Court. The San Francisco-based court has frequently been the most reversed among the circuit courts, with one term in the mid-1990s seeing 27 of its 28 decisions reversed or vacated by the high court.

How is that success!

THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THESE CIRCUITS. WHY ARE THEY SO OUT OF STEP? Activism ruling from the bench? What?
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Effie,

This is why there needs to be a real investigation of 911. There are still too many versions of what happened that is confusing the public. That confusion is intentional, and part of the globalist chaos agenda to destroy America. Imo, 911 was used by the globalists (with the help of treasonous infiltrators within the govt) to ramp up the takeover of America. Thus the truth must come out.

Trump is trying to get back control of the country away from the globalists and all their disgusting hacks, including in the courts, govt agencies, and Congress etc. This is why they attack him daily, namely in lying media like CNN. An absolute disgrace!

If you want your country back, you must support Trump whether you like him or not. Presently,  Its the only hope for your country.

Many of the issues you address, I agree, are problems (false flags, etc). The fact is there are so many problems, Trump has to deal with them one at the time. Give him a chance! The left and media are fighting him because they are afraid he will stop their globalist agendas. Thankfully, someone is man enough to do that. The American people must support the President and help him get your country back.





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... Amen jofortruth ... 100% agree.
We need a solid front against the globalists ...
Trump is having to practically go it alone. I think
we can expect arrests and many firings of DC
turncoats in the coming days ... it  will take time
to weed them out and take firm control of the
EXEC Branch ... and it is INTERNATIONAL as well.

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Exclusive: Syria’s Assad tells Yahoo News some refugees are ‘definitely’ terrorists
Michael Isikoff
Chief Investigative Correspondent
Yahoo News

Weighing in on one of the most contentious issues in American politics — the danger posed to host countries by the 4.8 million people who have fled from Syria’s civil war — Syrian President Bashar Assad told Yahoo News that some of the refugees are “definitely” terrorists.

In an exclusive interview with Yahoo News at a presidential office in Damascus, Assad said President Trump’s freeze on admitting refugees from his country — part of an executive order that has drawn widespread protests and is being challenged in federal court — “is an American issue” on which he would not take sides. But asked if some of those who fled are “aligned with terrorists,” Assad quickly replied, “Definitely.”

More: https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-syrias-assad-tells-yahoo-news-some-refugees-are-definitely-terrorists-182401926.html

Video at the link.
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A Sixth Sense: 6th Circuit Has Surpassed the 9th as the Most Reversed Appeals Court

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/a_sixth_sense_6th_circuit_has_surpassed_the_9th_as_the_most_reversed_appeal/

How is that success!

THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THESE CIRCUITS. WHY ARE THEY SO OUT OF STEP? Activism ruling from the bench? What?

9th Circuit Has 80 Percent Reversal Rate At Supreme Court

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/09/9th-circuit-has-80-percent-reversal-rate-at-supreme-court/


http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/intelprop/magazine/LandslideJan2010_Hofer.authcheckdam.pdf

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GRADE REPORT

First Circuit A–
Second Circuit B–
Third Circuit B
Fourth Circuit B+
Fifth Circuit B–
Sixth Circuit C+
Seventh Circuit A
Eighth Circuit B
Ninth Circuit C–
Tenth Circuit C
Eleventh Circuit B+
District of Columbia B
Federal Circuit D


 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/25sfninth.html

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Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama and the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, called the circuit “an activist court that has handed down decisions striking ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance and finding Megan’s Law to be unconstitutional.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/02/hint-supreme-court-rejects-rulings-row-west-coast-bench.html

http://blogs.findlaw.com/ninth_circuit/2013/06/ninth-battling-to-regain-spot-as-most-reversed-circuit.html


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Republicans create bill to fracture the “nutty” 9th Circuit Court
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/republicans-create-bill-to-fracture-the-nutty-9th-circuit-court/

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As the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has just struck down Trump’s executive order on the travel ban, Republicans are simultaneously moving to pass a bill that will split the court up.

According to Fox News, Arizona Senators Jeff Flake and John McCain have introduced legislation that will take six states out of the court, and create a whole new 12th Circuit. According to Flake, the court is overburdened, bloated, and slow.

“It represents 20 percent of the population — and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction. It’s just too big,” Flake told Fox News on Wednesday. “We have a bedrock principle of swift justice and if you live in Arizona or anywhere in the 9thCircuit, you just don’t have it.”


Liberals Panic as Trump Could Flip Left-Leaning Ninth Circuit
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/03/liberals-panic-trump-flip-left-leaning-ninth-circuit/
http://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-vacancies/current-judicial-vacancies


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Liberals are panicking about the fact that President-elect Donald Trump will be able to fill four vacancies on the historically left-leaning Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals when he takes office later this month.

Liberals are worried about that increasing “moderation” at the Ninth Circuit.
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ANTI-TRUMP NINTH CIRCUIT UPHELD US FLAG BAN, DESPITE FIRST AMENDMENT - Ultra-liberal court tries to rewrite Constitution instead of interpreting existing law (9th circuit has a reputation. Not so good!)

http://www.infowars.com/anti-trump-ninth-circuit-upheld-us-flag-ban-despite-first-amendment/
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REP. GOWDY STATEMENT ON 9TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS DECISION

https://gowdy.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-gowdy-statement-9th-circuit-court-appeals-decision

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Spartanburg, SC - Rep. Trey Gowdy released the following statement after the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled to block President Trump's executive order on immigration.

"No one familiar with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals should be surprised at today's ruling. The 9th Circuit has a well-earned reputation for being presumptively reversible. Unlike the district court order, there is at least a court opinion which can be evaluated.
Of particular interest is the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals' suggestion that even those unlawfully present in the country have certain due process rights with respect to immigration. The Court cites Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 695 (2001) for the proposition that even aliens who have committed and been convicted of certain crimes while in the U.S. unlawfully may have due process rights with respect to travel to or from the United States. In addition, the Court ventures curiously into its own role in reviewing a President's national security conclusions.

Legal permanent residents, non-citizens with current valid visas, non-citizens with expired visas (which were once valid), aliens with no legal standing, aliens who have committed a crime but have not yet been deported and aliens who are not even present in the United States but seek to come are just a few of the categories the Supreme Court will need to determine what process is due, if any. It seems clear to most of us - not on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals - there is no right to come to this country for non-citizens of the United States. It also seems clear judges are neither in a position, practically or jurisprudentially, to second guess national security determinations made by the Commander in Chief. There is a reason we elect the Commander in Chief and do not elect federal judges. 

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Well, those who are in opposition in the State Department, pretending they have presidential power are easily enough taken care of.  Just yank their ID card that allows them access to work.  Then, they aren't there anymore.  Sort it out later with warnings, suspensions & the like for termination.

I just bet, it is so bloated in those offices they won't even be missed.  The people left would probably be so happy to go over to all the empty desks and see if there is anything important that needs tending to.

Draining the State Department swamp will not bring down the State Department -- it'll make it run more efficiently.

How dare them go against Rex Tillerson directives!

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White House Suddenly Removes
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ERIC LIEBERMAN - 02/10/2017

Cory Louie, the White House’s now former chief cybersecurity
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En banc - Will more judges vote? Do some not agree with ruling? 11 judges could rehear the case.
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2017/02/10/17-35105_Supplemental%20Briefing%20Order.pdf

http://www.rotlaw.com/legal-library/what-does-en-banc-mean/

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THOMAS, Chief Judge and En Banc Coordinator:

A judge on this Court has made a sua sponte request that a vote be taken as

to whether the order issued by the three judge motions panel on February 9, 2017,

should be reconsidered en banc.

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Fmr U.S. Attorney: 9th Circuit Ruling ‘An Abomination’ Federal prosecutor under Reagan calls appellate decision a ‘judicial coup d’état’

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/fmr-u-s-attorney-ninth-circuit-ruling-abomination/


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‘RIGHT TO IMMIGRATE’ IS BEING CREATED BY ACTIVIST JUDGES - Constitutional experts analyze Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision


http://www.infowars.com/right-to-immigrate-is-being-created-by-activist-judges/
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Liberal Ninth Circuit Court Is Overturned in Recent Years 80% of Time

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/liberal-ninth-circuit-court-overturned-average-80-time/
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Threats against judges in immigration ban cases leads to increased security (If this is true, it is unacceptable! Free speech does not include violence or threats toward anyone. People who engage in this behavior are bordering criminal themselves. STOP BEING FOOLS. IT SOLVES NOTHING. That said, judges have the duty to rule based on the law and not be political. When they dont do their job, their professionalism is in question. Only they can change the perception of the public. All sides need to grow up. )

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/judges-threatened-immigration-order/index.html
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Court Ruling Against Trump’s Executive Order Shows the Worst of Judicial Activism

http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/10/court-ruling-against-trumps-executive-order-shows-the-worst-of-judicial-activism/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-fact-free-debate-on-immigration-order/article/2614298

‘RIGHT TO IMMIGRATE’ IS BEING CREATED BY ACTIVIST JUDGES - Constitutional experts analyze Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision


http://www.infowars.com/right-to-immigrate-is-being-created-by-activist-judges/

Fmr U.S. Attorney: 9th Circuit Ruling ‘An Abomination’ Federal prosecutor under Reagan calls appellate decision a ‘judicial coup d’état’

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/fmr-u-s-attorney-ninth-circuit-ruling-abomination/


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Most of this stuff is just hysterical nonsense. There is no visa-free travel from the seven countries. The State Department gets to decide who gets a visa and these rules can be as stringent as they like, no EO required, and can be changed in a very short time.

The problem with this EO was that it totally screwed people over who were already living here, or families already here, or persons already with travel visas, or persons with work placements and school placements etc etc and so on. It was a political act, not one based on national security needs, and one which was very poorly thought through.

I would be extremely surprised if this EO survives in any recognizable form. There are elements of the 9th circuit opinion which are unlikely to be upheld at appeal, but even without these parts the case against the EO remains extremely stong. The DOJ know this which is why it has not already been sent to SCOTUS. We will see what the District Court now says in its full judgement in a few weeks.

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Trump goes for EO reboot ... ( Sort of what Laura Ingraham was suggesting): bypassing courts

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_TRAVEL_BAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-10-13-55-48
Feb 11, 2017 2:51 AM EST
Trump says he might give travel ban a tweak or a makeover
By JULIE PACE and JILL COLVIN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Donald Trump says he might give his refugee and immigration travel ban a second try, either as a revision or as a new order, as he contends with an appeals court ruling that prevents the ban from being enforced.

Trump said he expected to win the legal battle
over his original directive even though options were being considered by the White House.
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The president has cast the order as crucial for national security. Earlier Friday, he promised to take action "very rapidly" to protect the U.S. and its citizens in the wake of the appeals court decision, but he did not specify what steps he planned to take.

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer tweeted that Trump "ought to see the writing on the wall" and abandon the proposal. The New York Democrat called on the president to "roll up his sleeves" and come up with "a real, bipartisan plan to keep us safe."

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California promised, "Democrats will continue to press for President Trump's dangerous and unconstitutional ban to be withdrawn." And Trump's former presidential rival Hillary Clinton offered a terse response on Twitter, noting the unanimous vote: "3-0."
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The Trump administration has said the seven nations - Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen - have raised terrorism concerns. The states have argued that the executive order unconstitutionally blocked entry based on religion and the travel ban harmed individuals, businesses and universities.
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Colvin reported from Palm Beach, Florida. Associated Press writers Ken Thomas and Darlene Superville contributed to this report.
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Stephen Miller on 9th Circuit Ruling: ‘There’s ‘No Such Thing as Judicial Supremacy”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/12/stephen-miller-on-9th-circuit-ruling-theres-no-such-thing-as-judicial-supremacy/


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8987534/ns/meet_the_press-resources/t/meet-press-transcripts-resources-video/#.WKCJoZH3af0

Miller gets it fundamentally wrong. Yes the three branches are equal, but they perform different functions. The constitutional function of the judiciary is to ensure that the Executive and Legislatory act in accordance with statute and constitutional law.

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Miller gets it fundamentally wrong. Yes the three branches are equal, but they perform different functions. The constitutional function of the judiciary is to ensure that the Executive and Legislatory act in accordance with statute and constitutional law.

just where did he get it "fundamentally wrong"?

Miller: "That’s the point. They are equal. There’s no such thing as judicial supremacy."

skipping the lying/liberal pundits, all 'real' legal analysts agree that the 9th Circus legislated from the bench.  so Bush Jr. put one of the judges up there?  so what?  I never liked him, and always 'wondered' at how he came out of nowhere to be first governor of Texas, then straight to POTUS (actually, I don't 'wonder', that history says a lot about how things are actually done)...Nobama also stacked the courts/bureaucracy with those loyal to the NWO...

NWO?  Globalization of course, controlled by the elite with everyone else being their subjects.  their ends justify their means of course. 

solution?  'war' upon the corruption that is deeply entrenched across the world.

in the big picture, I think it will go down in history as a strong lesson to President Trump, one from which he learns, and uses to 'defeat' the corrupt/planted judges.

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just where did he get it "fundamentally wrong"?

Miller: "That’s the point. They are equal. There’s no such thing as judicial supremacy."


Just where I said. The three branches are co-equal but not the same, which would be pointless. It's like a husband and wife are co-equal but different - for example the man cannot have babies and the woman cannot parallel park; she might get a veto on some things and him on others, see? The judiciary can interpret the law but cannot make policy or law. The fact that the president loses in court does not make the judiciary supreme, just like when the president vetoes a bill from congress he is not supreme, and when congress impeaches the president they are not supreme. It's the checks and balances working as designed. On this occasion the president over-reached; the reason they have not petitioned SCOTUS is that they have probably been given back-channel indications that the EO is indeed unlawful and unconstitutional and the 9th circuit decision would be affirmed.

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skipping the lying/liberal pundits, all 'real' legal analysts agree that the 9th Circus legislated from the bench.  so Bush Jr. put one of the judges up there?  so what?  I never liked him, and always 'wondered' at how he came out of nowhere to be first governor of Texas, then straight to POTUS (actually, I don't 'wonder', that history says a lot about how things are actually done)...Nobama also stacked the courts/bureaucracy with those loyal to the NWO...

Oh right so who are the 'real analysts', the ones who agree with Trump perhaps? All these talking heads should give their rear ends a chance. None of them have pointed to exactly where in the 9th circuit decision they have 'legislated from the bench'. All of the court's reasoning is backed by precedent. Maybe you could help these so-called experts out and find me specifically where the 9th circuit is supposed to have 'legislated from the bench'?

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How do you envision him doing that?

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Sheriffs looking for clarity on deportation...
ICE sweep on Staten Island...
Wave of fear strikes Houston...
Mexican Migrants Signal They Prefer Detention Over Being Sent Back...
More illegals flee north...

PAPER: What to do if officers come knocking...
VENEZUELA NOW LEADS ASYLUM REQUESTS...

http://observer.com/2017/02/trumps-immigration-raids-have-arrived-in-new-york-city-advocates-report/
Immigration Raids Have Arrived in New York City, Advocates Report
By Madina Toure • 02/11/17 8:28pm

Make the Road New York, an immigrant advocacy group, told the media this evening that Immigration and Customs Enforcement sweeps on Staten Island netted five Mexican nationals in the past week and a half—coinciding with similar actions across the nation.

The raids took place on February 2, February 3, February 5 and February 8,
according to speakers on the press call.
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Sheriffs looking for clarity on deportation...
ICE sweep on Staten Island...
Wave of fear strikes Houston...
Mexican Migrants Signal They Prefer Detention Over Being Sent Back...
More illegals flee north...

PAPER: What to do if officers come knocking...
VENEZUELA NOW LEADS ASYLUM REQUESTS...

http://observer.com/2017/02/trumps-immigration-raids-have-arrived-in-new-york-city-advocates-report/
Immigration Raids Have Arrived in New York City, Advocates Report
By Madina Toure • 02/11/17 8:28pm

Make the Road New York, an immigrant advocacy group, told the media this evening that Immigration and Customs Enforcement sweeps on Staten Island netted five Mexican nationals in the past week and a half—coinciding with similar actions across the nation.

The raids took place on February 2, February 3, February 5 and February 8,
according to speakers on the press call.
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I happened across this little tid-bit... you must remember that in order to qualify as an actual undocumented illegal alien you likely would not appear within the numbers stated in the article linked below because there would be no way to actually know you were here unless you were interacted with by government in some way ... These are the truly undocumented illegals ones who have not applied for assistance or obtained work, with or without fake documentation nor have they successfully obtained "legal" ID with or without false letters.

By the very nature of the way a large percentage of these folks live and congregate together, a few among them function to provide monetary sustenance in the visible working world while the rest perform less visible familial functions remaining off the grid so to speak.

I found this article interesting in any case...

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845

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