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Offline regmeok

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What are Russians told about Israel?
Israel is not being given much coverage. usually it is mentioned briefly with regard to israeli-palestinian conflict.


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пустой шум.
as 99% of info we get.  the only way to scratch the surface is to analyze trends and count money/oil&gas flows... which requires lots of intelligence many generally smart and erudite people (like me ^^) dont have
 

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Chris (post #29), this conflict is pretty much a one way street of violence and brutalization, from the Israelis to the Palestinians. Where religion might come into play is the stipulation in Talmudic Judaism that non-Jews do not need to be treated as human beings (http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm). Remember that these views are very widespread in Israel, and were held by the late Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef (http://www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-ovadia-yosefs-most-controversial-quotations/) who was praised as a great 'torah scholar' by Netanyahoo (http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Shas-spiritual-leader-Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-dies-at-93-328072).

If the boot was on the other foot then I would be on the other 'side'.

As for Sharia law, it comes from the Old Testament of the Bible, almost word for word. There are very few places in the world under strict Sharia Law, and the panic about it coming to the US is laughable and ridiculous. Btw, as far as I know, FGM is not part of Sharia Law.

But my advice is leave religion out of it. Prosecute those who transgress against our laws and fight those states which have attacked us, while supporting the oppressed wherever they are. To concentrate on religion is a mug's game imo.


I think that if you read about the US/NATO funding and training of muslim terrorists, or if you have read anything about the millions of muslims that NATO has killed, maimed, orphaned, tortured, and otherwise abused in the most depraved ways, you would have to wonder how Christians could condone this slaughter we've been engaged in for the past 15 years, and will continue (endless war on terror) into the foreseeable future.

You seem to want to look at everything through the lens of religion, as if any of these wars were about religion. I think you have missed a fundamental step in the process of becoming aware of how the globalists operate. They don't practice religion (any religion), they USE religion as a tool to divide people. During WWII, the Jews were the target - they were dehumanized, literally destroyed - after a long campaign to get people to see them as less than human.

If you are awake to the false flag that occurred on 911, then you must know that the 'patsies' in this ff were muslims - convenient use of these guys to kick off the subsequent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq... and it continued. As long as we had youtube videos filled with atrocities by muslims (courtesy of the CIA), then they could keep the hatred going - keep the "muslims did it" meme alive, and thus continue their devastating warmongering activities in the middle east.

Arab Spring was more of the same; we saw Hillary practically wet herself with joy - "We came, we saw, he's died" - what a sick twisted bitch.

But it's important to keep muslims on the hate radar... they're sitting on land that WE WANT TO CONTROL... so demonize them (make shit up and post it on youtube), then overthrow their governments, destroy their homes, get pissed off when they try to migrate to safer places (hate, hate, hate)...

It makes me wonder what Christians here are really about? Do you think Jesus would approve? Not the Jesus I know in my heart.

Very well said. I believe it was Paul Craig Roberts who pointed out that if the ME was inhabited by Buddhists, then we would have a radical Buddhism problem. The demonization of muslms is a total con job which far too many people have bought into wholesale, without considering the source.

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Re: REPUBLICANS STRONGLY CONDEMN OBAMA / UN
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2016, 08:45:48 PM »

" ... It’s our money funding the lion’s
share of the globalist circus."


Sarah Palin: President Trump Should ‘Call for the
Unshackling of the Political Bands Tying Us to the UN’

JOHN HAYWARD.  29 Dec 2016

On Thursday’s Breitbart News Daily on SiriusXM, former Alaska Governor and 2008 vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin talked with Breitbart London Editor-in-Chief Raheem Kassam about the return of national sovereignty that began with Brexit and might lead to a United States withdrawal from the United Nations in the wake of its anti-Israel vote.

I think many of us have called for America to really step up and consider what it is that we are funding and supporting via the UN, and how it works so hard really against U.S. interests, and just saying – look what the U.K. just did,” Palin said, referring to the Brexit vote.

“This is such an encouraging time, where it’s not just us, but those across the pond, too, are understanding that their nation’s sovereignty and security are on the line here, with the ties that bind us to interests that really don’t further our agendas,” she declared.

“So when the U.K. made its move, it was just another reason to call yet again for the U.S. to get the heck out of the UN and get the UN out of the U.S. Let’s get going on putting America first so that we can sweep our own porch before telling other nations how to sweep theirs,” she advised.

Palin said it was unnecessary for the United States to import the dysfunctional bureaucracy of the United Nations since homegrown bureaucracy is already doing such a good job of messing up American life. “They can spy from anywhere, so they don’t need to be right underfoot, the UN, for us to spy on them. We’ll know what they’re doing,” she jovially assured Kassam.

“Unfortunately, the UN’s presence even, in the U.S. – all that has done is said to people like John Kerry and his desire to essentially cave to other countries, he essentially is inviting other countries to exercise veto power over us, over U.S. national security measures,” Palin continued on a more serious note.

√ MORE: http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/12/29/palin-trump-call-unshackling-political-bands-tying-us-u-n/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
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Re: MORE CALLS FOR DEFUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2017, 03:06:37 PM »
"It is time to move beyond these mendacious mists
and call the UN what it really is:  a parasitical failure."


Defund The United Nations
DAVID KRAYDEN. 12/29/2016

When I first saw the headlines about Secretary of State John Kerry’s latest threat to Israel I wondered if Kerry had finally lost all connection to reality.  Based on predecessor Hillary Clinton’s experience, the office would seem to do that to people.  “Kerry Tells Israel To Pick Being Democratic Or Jewish — ‘It Cannot Be Both.’”

No, Kerry wasn’t saying you can’t be a Jew and support the Democratic Party – it was democracy in general he was talking about.  Oh…

But you know, given the machinations of the Obama administration in its twilight hours, no ultimatum would be too severe or bizarre that it couldn’t escape from the asylum.

There are strong reasons to see Obama’s hand in this recent UN Security Council vote to condemn Israel’s “occupation” of geography that it won in the 1967 Six Day War – a war that was supposed to annihilate Israel; a war that Israel’s Arab “neighbors” conspired to wage with overwhelming military odds; a war where Israel took on all comers and handily defeated all of its overconfident and supercilious foes.

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When Trump delivered his “Second Gettysburg Address” in the last election campaign, nothing stoked the fires of voter emancipation more than his promise to stop sending money to the UN so that it could keep shoveling it into the bottomless pit of the climate change agenda.

Trump is promising that things will be different after Jan. 20.  Let’s hope he remembers that. The UN might be nothing but a mirage, an empty promise of a better tomorrow and an enduring threat of tyrannical world government, but it casts a heinous spell on world leaders who become entrapped in its progressive mythology and powerful mystique.

√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/29/defund-the-united-nations/#ixzz4UXetx3Kw
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Re: OBAMA ADMIN CONSPIRED WITH PALESTINIANS AGAINST ISRAEL
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2017, 08:38:08 AM »
" ... both sides agreed to establish a bilateral commission to
examine visa requests from Palestinians and entry and
movement visas for Palestinian leadership in the U.S."


REPORT: KERRY, PALESTINIANS HELD 'SECRET MEETINGS'
Says 2 sides 'agreed to cooperate' in drafting U.N. resolution against Israel
BOB UNRUH

U.S. officials stunned the free world, especially their own citizens and those of close ally Israel, just before Christmas when they abstained from a U.N. resolution condemning Israel for building housing.

But they mostly have insisted they had nothing to do with bringing the resolution to the international organization’s agenda, an assertion that conflicts with a new report from an Egyptian daily newspaper, the Al-Youm Al-Sabi’.

The publication says that just days before the U.N. Security Council vote, a Palestinian Authority delegation met in Washington with Obama administration officials “for secret talks.”

The details of the Egyptian report has been documented by the Middle East Media Research Institute. (https://www.memri.org/reports/egyptian-daily-close-egyptian-intelligence-reveals-minutes-secret-palestinian-authority-1)

MEMRI said the Egyptian paper, “which is close to Egyptian intelligence services, published an expose of the minutes of the secret talks, according to the report, by Ahmed Gomaa, the Palestinian delegation included PLO executive committee secretary and negotiating team leader Saeb Erekat; Palestinian general intelligence chief Majid Farah” and others.

“According to the report,” MEMRI said, “the minutes of the ‘top secret’ meeting of [Secretary of State John] Kerry, [National Security Adviser Susan] Rice, Erekat, and Faraj revealed U.S.-Palestinian coordination leading up to the U.N. Security Council vote on Resolution 2334 regarding Israel’s settlements, which was adopted December 23.

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“John Kerry and Susan Rice asked that the meetings be classified ‘Top Secret’ and that what went on in them not be leaked, in light of the sensitivity of the transition between the two U.S. administrations.”

√ Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/report-kerry-palestinians-held-secret-meetings/#OWKcJMTPYQsAF5fy.99
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Re: MORE CALLS FOR DEFUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2017, 11:14:44 AM »
They Did It! GOP Introduces Bill to
DEFUND the United Nations


Sen. Ted Cruz teamed up Thursday with — of all people — Sen. Lindsey Graham to introduce a resolution to defund the United Nations unless it reverses a recently passed measure condemning Israeli settlement activity.

“Twenty-two percent of the money to fund the U.N. comes from the American taxpayer,” Graham noted during a joint interview with his fellow senator that morning on MSNBC. “I don’t think it’s a good investment for the American taxpayer to give money to an organization that condemns the only democracy in the Middle East.”

“The only way to get their attention — we can give speeches, we can pass resolutions and the U.N. is going to ignore what we say; but if you cut off their money, that gets their attention,” Cruz added. “And I think we’ve real prospects of seeing this thing move through Congress and actually turning this thing around.”

According to the Washington Examiner, though Graham and Cruz launched the bill together, it was ultimately the brainchild of the Texas senator, who reportedly came up with it shortly after the December vote by the U.N

http://conservativetribune.com/bill-to-defund-the-united-nations/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=ConservativeTribune&utm_content=2017-01-13&utm_campaign=manualpost
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Re: Trump intervention fails as Obama allows Palestine UN Resolution
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2017, 03:56:31 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headquarters_of_the_United_Nations
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Although it is situated in New York City, the land occupied by the United Nations Headquarters and the spaces of buildings that it rents are under the sole administration of the United Nations and not the U.S. government. They are technically extraterritorial through a treaty agreement with the U.S. government. However, in exchange for local police, fire protection and other services, the United Nations agrees to acknowledge most local, state, and federal laws

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The United Nations Headquarters complex was constructed in stages with the core complex completed between 1948 and 1952. The Headquarters occupies a site beside the East River, on between 17 and 18 acres (7 and 7 ha)[note 1][7] of land purchased from the real estate developer, William Zeckendorf, Sr. Nelson Rockefeller arranged this purchase, after an initial offer to locate it on the Rockefeller family estate of Kykuit was rejected as being too isolated from Manhattan.

The US$8.5 million (adjusted by inflation US$84.7 million) purchase was then funded by his father, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., who donated it to the city.

The Rockefeller family owned the Tudor City Apartments across First Avenue from the slaughter houses.[8]

Wallace Harrison, the personal architectural adviser for the Rockefeller family and brother-in-law to a Rockefeller daughter, served as the Director of Planning for the United Nations Headquarters. His firm, Harrison and Abramovitz, oversaw the execution of the design
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http://www.50unp.com/50-united-nations-plaza-history.php
A family legend.

In 1946 in New York City, 17 acres of land along the East River were transformed into a world affair. Visionary real estate developer William Zeckendorf Sr. offered the site to the United Nations as their new permanent home. With the help of the Rockefeller family, this historic deal became William Zeckendorf, Sr.’s greatest professional achievement.

60 years later, his grandsons William Lie and Arthur Zeckendorf, in partnership with Eyal Ofer’s Global Holdings, would purchase the site directly across from the United Nations. Given their family history, the neighborhood has great personal significance. “In addition to our paternal grandfather’s vision, our maternal grandfather Trygve Lie was the first UN Secretary General.” In tribute, this new project is christened 50 UNITED NATIONS PLAZA.
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Re: Trump intervention fails as Obama allows Palestine UN Resolution
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »

... defund UN!


NYT, citing sources:
Trump preparing orders to drastically reduce
US involvement in United Nations

Christine Wang

The Donald Trump administration is drawing up executive orders to curtail U.S. funding to international agencies — including those connected to the United Nations — The New York Times reported.

The newspaper said one order would apply to agencies that support causes which the Trump administration has vocally denounced. The drafts suggest the orders would apply to organizations that, for example, fund abortion or those that are "controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism," the Times reported.

Before taking office, Trump was critical of the U.N. after its security council called for a halt to Israeli settlement-building.

A different draft order obtained by the Times said that the Trump administration would call for a review of all treaties with multiple countries — with the goal of determining which ones the United States should exit.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/trump-preparing-orders-to-drastically-reduce-us-involvement-in-united-nations-nyt-citing-sources.html
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