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Offline Jacob Law

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LSD Therapy - History
« on: December 20, 2016, 10:15:14 AM »
LSD Therapy - History



Have you ever wondered why on Christmas we cut down/carry evergreen trees inside our houses, decorate them with fancy ornaments, and place presents underneath them? Under this tree is where those who are deemed good find their reward in the form of a present. A big red and white rounded mushroom grows under the very tree we are to look under on Christmas morning to find our gift: http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/20...

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The Sequoia Seminars - 1954 - LSD Therapy - History  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153737.0 but it was Locked; anyway this is interesting.
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Re: LSD Therapy - History
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 10:19:43 AM »
With mushrooms and marijuana, it seems some times that some people are saying "God made a mistake".

I'm like thinking its more likely that man makes a mistake when banning a plant or mushroom.

Sorry to go a little off topic.
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Re: LSD Therapy - History
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2016, 11:25:46 AM »
LSD Therapy - History



Have you ever wondered why on Christmas we cut down/carry evergreen trees inside our houses, decorate them with fancy ornaments, and place presents underneath them? Under this tree is where those who are deemed good find their reward in the form of a present. A big red and white rounded mushroom grows under the very tree we are to look under on Christmas morning to find our gift: http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/20...

https://youtu.be/TX2Zkzt0KMU

Wanted to post this in   
The Sequoia Seminars - 1954 - LSD Therapy - History  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153737.0 but it was Locked; anyway this is interesting.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/09/santa-claus-magic-mushroom.html

All I know is that there was this Dutch controversial psychiatrist Bastiaans who did LSD experiments with his patients.

Jan Bastiaans born in the Dutch city Rotterdam on May 27, 1917 was neurologist and a contoversial professor of psychiatry. In 1957 he obtained his doctorate with a thesis entitled: Psychosomatic effects of oppression and resistance.

(Google trans from Dutch wikipedia) http://tinyurl.com/z4kp59m

ORG https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Bastiaans

Could LSD Therapy indeed work in the sense that it helps to re-live but also re-work traumatic experiences in order to diminish it's remembrance impact on daily live?  On first glance I have my serious doubts abou that since LSD seems to be a highly delusional drug, creating images which are not there but possibly connected to temporary subconscious 'hidden' moods. Like alcohol, for instance, make some unusual happy while others get unusual violent. Drugs in general has different outcomes on different persons and personalities. It's certainly not 'one size fits all', especially in psychiatry.

Maybe somebody ever finds time to actually read this stuff:

The Sequoia Seminars - 1954 - LSD Therapy - History http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153737.0

From the Bulletin of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
MAPS - Volume 9 Number 2 Summer 1999 - pp. 3-9
The Bastiaans Method of Drug-Assisted Therapy
A preliminary follow-up study with former clients
Hans Ossebaard
Nicole Maalste
This study was made possible in part
by a grant to MAPS from the Promind Foundation

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n2/09203maa.html

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v08n1/08118sne.html


Medical History, 2002, 46: 221-240
LSD Therapy in Dutch Psychiatry: Changing Socio-Political Settings and Medical Sets
Stephen Snelders and Charles Kaplan*
Introduction
In this article we aim to bring together these two lines of historical research in a case study of LSD therapy in Dutch psychiatry from the mid-1950s until the beginning of the 1990s.
http://politicsofsin.50megs.com/entheogen/2002_Snelders_11475_1.html

More on the fascinating 'Mushroom' Christmas connection story even on Churches' architectural style:

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Re: LSD Therapy - History
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2016, 05:50:51 PM »
having taken my share of that drug ages ago I can't believe it would in any way be beneficial for psychiatric care...one tends to get caught in a loop with it and with a fragile mind that would be catastrophic methinks...I can't speak for others, but not once did I ever see things that weren't there, rather saw extreme corruptions of what one would normally see...plants breathing and such, candles melting upwards...e.g. no true hallucinations rather corruptions of correct sight (rather cool IMHO).  the closest to seeing something that wasn't there would be blue lights dancing up and down my guitar strings, oh yeah I was using a blue pick, see what I'm saying?

MDMA on the other hand is mildly hallucinogenic but definitely puts one in a rather happy place...I can see that rather harmful on the body drug if dosed correctly and infrequently of being some psychiatric use.

nope, never had a 'bad trip'...wrote and recorded at least one tune that was rather special in its own way, have many other recordings of me tripping and playing and while I can't say they are superb, they surely don't show evidence of a crippled mind.

note how I refer to a weak mind above...I can quite understand the terror it could wreak on a disturbed mind as there is NO way out of the drug until it gets out of your body...I guess heavy sedatives might mitigate things.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 08:55:00 PM »
The LSD of the 1950-1980 is totally different than today fiat LSD; but I like the point that he was checking his list, checking it twice he was going to find out who was naughty or nice: either you were going to get a present or a lump of coal, because attitude is everything.

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With mushrooms and marijuana, it seems some times that some people are saying "God made a mistake".

I'm like thinking its more likely that man makes a mistake when banning a plant or mushroom.

Sorry to go a little off topic.

I don't think you're off topic, God doesn't make mistakes and every herb and mushroom has purpose.

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TahoeBlue did a great job on this topic, not sure why he locked it but if you get the time it is a great read; also http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=316061.msg1600001#msg1600001 Hunter Thompson AND TahoeBlue also post about JFK girl friend doing LSD with him, but I can't remember were he posted it.
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Re: LSD Therapy - History
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2016, 12:05:43 AM »
Quote from Jacob Law -

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  God doesn't make mistakes and every herb and mushroom has purpose.   

Good perspective.

With LSD and also now with the  Ecstasy drug
they've been using both administered and talked
through traumatic events in people's lives to let them
work it out, then come back down off the drug(s) and
hopefully have some healing, closure to said traumatic
emotional events that haunt people.

Some therapists are licensed "Ecstasy Therapists"
and some people said it's really helped them.

Psychiatrists even in the 1970's  were using controlled
LSD sessions with patients. 



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