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How will they try to stop Trump next?
« on: December 16, 2016, 12:30:20 AM »
First they tried to con voters into voting for war criminal Hillary Clinton.  Gave us fake polls showing her way ahead, tried to get us to stay home on election day.  That didn't work.  We elected Trump.

Then they tried to throw a wrench into the process by demanding recounts.  That didn't work.

Now they're appealing directly to electors who are committed to vote for Trump.  Won't work.

So what's next?  Time's short.

I think the Clintonistas are going to blow something up.  The media is already saying that the next "terrorist attack" will be Trump's fault, so maybe we're being conditioned for a big bang somewhere.  Tie it to Putin, tie Putin to Trump, then Obama can declare Trump a terrorist.  And he can't let a terrorist into the white house.  I don't see where they have too many other options at this point.

Any thoughts on this?

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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2016, 07:44:56 AM »
Cnn CIA Woolsey talking last night about an electric grid cyber attack. Is that their next attempt to disrupt Trump?


The globalists are desperate. Nothing would surprise me at this point, BUT WE WILL KNOW THEY (THE GLOBALISTS WHO ARE BEHIND ALL THE CHAOS)  DID IT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS! There is a big jail cell ready for these punks.
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2016, 10:25:18 AM »
Any thoughts on this?

what if trump victory was planned?

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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2016, 12:37:27 PM »
 Thoughts? My opinion is: 'they' will continue with the "Fake News" of all sorts:

But Americans will not take the Bait on this Fishing Trip from HELL!

... mate; nice post topic  8)
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 05:21:12 PM »
As the Coup Against Trump Fails, the Threat Against His Life Rises — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/20/as-the-coup-against-trump-fails-the-threat-against-his-life-rises-paul-craig-roberts/


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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2016, 01:08:13 PM »
As the Coup Against Trump Fails, the Threat Against His Life Rises — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/20/as-the-coup-against-trump-fails-the-threat-against-his-life-rises-paul-craig-roberts/
Roberts and many others; including myself: believe the Nazi Bastards will try and Kill President Trump; and they are evil enough to try it.

In my opinion it would Fail, Because to many on the inside wanted the Clinton Murder Machine OUT! and so did We The People!

...a plus for Trump is: he has his own Security Men!
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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 01:48:56 PM »

So what's next?  Time's short.

A Tape surfacing- real or fake -will cause chaos

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

CIA VS Trump

The BBC's Paul Wood saw the allegations before the election, and reports on the fallout now they have come to light.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Pee-Pee gate-The video and audio tapes:

The significance of these allegations is that, if true, the president-elect of the United States would be vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

A video either exists or it doesn't. If it doesn't exist, making a fake video would be possible but not so easy. However, by using video AND audio, and from several sources, editing the tapes, can convince most people of anything. What follows is the recipe, for doing that...Will the CIA assassinate Trump before he can clean house, by means of video/audio tapes instead of a magic bullet?

I understand the CIA believes it is credible that the Kremlin has such kompromat - or compromising material - on the next US commander in chief. At the same time a joint taskforce, which includes the CIA and the FBI, has been investigating allegations that the Russians may have sent money to Mr Trump's organisation or his election campaign.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent, understood to be Christopher Steele.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

This guy, Christopher Steele, has already made quite a bit of money with his "intelligence dossier", no matter how much is complete BS...

They told him that Mr Trump had been filmed with a group of prostitutes in the presidential suite of Moscow's Ritz-Carlton hotel. I know this because the Washington political research company that commissioned his report showed it to me during the final week of the election campaign.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

They obviously didn't feel the need to try this route of putting this unvetted unproven pretty outrageous gossip out since Hillary was going to win anyway....(so they thought) this means there is no tape-they would have used it since there would be no risk. A video of the alleged incident would be hard to dismiss. Any video tape released at this point would have to come from the alleged source-Russia-and it would make no sense for them to put it out if they got "their puppet" in.
A tape released between now and when Trump swears in will therefor IMO most assuredly be the work of editing and fraud.

The BBC decided not to use it then, for the very good reason that without seeing the tape - if it exists - we could not know if the claims were true.

Mr Trump's supporters say this is a politically motivated attack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Exactly what it is-until there is a tape released. Trump denies the allegations which are so outrageous and over the top it would seem unbelievable until you realize that Trump supporters were being attacked at his rallies for "being racists" and supporting someone "everyone knows is worse than Hitler". So a significant portion of people will certainly believe anything.

He said the memo was written by "sick people [who] put that crap together".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Most likely the whole thing was started by the Bush's (who the CIA headquarters is officially named after) during the Republican primaries.

The opposition research firm that commissioned the report had worked first for an anti-Trump superpac - political action committee - during the Republican primaries.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Agent Steele made some money on his product. And he will make even more, after Jeb gets bitch-slapped off the stage by Trump...

Then during the general election, it was funded by an anonymous Democratic Party supporter.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

This sounds like Soros to me.....

But these are not political hacks - their usual line of work is country analysis and commercial risk assessment, similar to the former MI6 agent's consultancy.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Without the video tape, this will eventually go away. However with a tape release, no matter real or fake-it will never ever end. Get ready for some real chaos if a tape is released soon....

However by using video AND audio, and from several sources, editing the tapes, can convince most people of anything. What follows is the recipe, for doing that...Will the CIA assassinate Trump before he can clean house by means of video/audio tapes instead of magic bullet?

I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed. That is why - according to the New York Times and Washington Post - these claims ended up on President Barack Obama's desk last week, a briefing document also given to Congressional leaders and to Mr Trump himself.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

The CIA leadership has a week before they are shown the door by Trump -- They are capable of anything at this point.

Mr Trump did visit Moscow in November 2013, the date the main tape is supposed to have been made. There is TV footage of him at the Miss Universe contest.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

But it is not just sex, it is money too. The former MI6 agent's report detailed alleged attempts by the Kremlin to offer Mr Trump lucrative "sweetheart deals" in Russia that would buy his loyalty.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

If this is true - even this dossier on Trump is claiming Trump himself can not be bought- it doesn't matter though-if you can find one close enough to him who can be -------

Mr Trump turned these down, and indeed has done little real business in Russia. But a joint intelligence and law enforcement task force has been looking at allegations that the Kremlin paid money to his campaign through his associates.

More incentive to put out a tape-fake or not....

If a tape exists, the Russians would hardly give it up, though some hope to encourage a disloyal FSB officer who might want to make some serious money. Before the election, Larry Flynt, publisher of the pornographic magazine Hustler, put up a million dollars for incriminating tape of Mr Trump. Penthouse has now followed with its own offer of a million dollars for the Ritz-Carlton tape (if it exists).

It is an extraordinary situation, 10 days before Mr Trump is sworn into office, but it was foreshadowed during the campaign.
During the final presidential debate, Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump a "puppet" of Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

These corrupt spooks are capable of anything.....

I Ran the C.I.A. Now I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton.
By MICHAEL J. MORELL AUG. 5, 2016

During a 33-year career at the Central Intelligence Agency, I served presidents of both parties — three Republicans and three Democrats. I was at President George W. Bush’s side when we were attacked on Sept. 11; as deputy director of the agency, I was with President Obama when we killed Osama bin Laden in 2011.

On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0

In a New York Times op-ed in August, the former director of the CIA, Michael Morell, wrote: "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr Putin had recruited Mr Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

Michael Hayden, former head of both the CIA and the NSA, simply called Mr Trump a "polezni durak" - a useful fool.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Michael Hayden-The actual useful fool:
Hayden criticized the reporting of NSA surveillance programs, argued that society must make a choice between security and liberty, and took personal shots at NSA leaker Edward Snowden.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/former-nsa-chief-morally-arrogant-snowden-will-probably-become-an-alcoholic/?utm_term=.1b67a2969445
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 05:40:47 PM »


... I wonder if he ever slept with Marilyn Monroe?
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 05:49:25 PM »
Here in Serbia I heard on the news that "because of Donald Trump in CIA fall of moral. Agents wrote resigns."

P.S. I heard on one Serbian movie director. He is right-winger. But he said that US Military Service saved Trump from CIA, NSA....

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2017, 05:51:06 PM »

I understand the CIA believes it is credible that the Kremlin has such kompromat - or compromising material - on the next US commander in chief. At the same time a joint taskforce, which includes the CIA and the FBI, has been investigating allegations that the Russians may have sent money to Mr Trump's organisation or his election campaign.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427


Firstly, the CIA lie. That is their job. That is what they do. When do you believe an agency that conistantly engages in deception?

If the CIA believed that the allegations are true then isn't their job to cover up, discredit the evidence and/or destroy it so that it can't be used to harm the US?

This seem so obvious to me. Why do people not get it?


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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2017, 07:32:17 PM »
Firstly, the CIA lie. That is their job. That is what they do. When do you believe an agency that conistantly engages in deception?

If the CIA believed that the allegations are true then isn't their job to cover up, discredit the evidence and/or destroy it so that it can't be used to harm the US?

This seem so obvious to me. Why do people not get it?

They would hold the info, have a little sit-down with the prez, and THEY would be the blackmailers.
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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 01:54:08 AM »
Firstly, the CIA lie. That is their job. That is what they do. When do you believe an agency that conistantly engages in deception?

I don't. The point I'm trying to make is now we have the CIA acting like this is all real. This is very very dangerous. The CIA is out to destroy him. It's obvious. I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if they are working overtime on a fake video. These people are scum -I do not in any way believe them-they are in fact the traitors....

John Brennan the current Director of the CIA and errand boy for Obama trying to get fools to believe Trumps victory was part of a Russian coup was never even considered by Trump to stay on. Brennan who was the top CIA operative in Saudi Arabia, before being appointed to chief of staff to CIA Director Tenet, before becoming deputy executive director of the CIA in March of 2001.

They had to declassify some of the 28 pages before the election on the slim chance that Trump would actually win and declassify the whole thing. He did win.
Trump-I hope he declassifies the remaining parts exposing the treasonous turds that helped their Saudi buddies. Payback is a bitch Brennan.

And Trump needs to declassify this interview as well......

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610777

If the CIA believed that the allegations are true then isn't their job to cover up, discredit the evidence and/or destroy it so that it can't be used to harm the US?

No-these nutbags think it's their job to destroy a President they consider to "be weak" on foreign policy. They hate Trump-he is Pro America, they are Pro-World Domination.

This seem so obvious to me. Why do people not get it?

The CIA has just upped the ante- this is getting very weird and dangerous. So far Trump has stood up to these scum -- he is putting his life on the line - the CIA does not want good relations with Russia, Hillary and Jeb were CIA puppets.

“Mr. Trump has to understand that absolving Russia is a road that he needs to be very, very careful about moving down,” Brennan said.

Trump responded with a two-tweet message that criticized the CIA's record under Brennan and questioned whether the director had leaked a dossier of unverified allegations that Russia spies had obtained compromising personal and financial information about Trump.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/16/trump-slams-outgoing-cia-director-brennan-after-criticism-over-russia-threat.html

All the Trump hating wackos are gearing up for their big protest day and the CIA has some fuel they'd like to throw on the bonfire - The treasonous torturers  who think you have no right to privacy as they classify at their whim anything they want, are upping the ante with their latest rhetoric.

The CIA Brennan was/is a part of are guilty of torture and treason. Lock them ALL up.
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2017, 05:50:38 AM »
In the CIA, or the FBI for that matter . . . The bulk of the Agents are loyal, patriotic, thoroughly decent people.

The problem is at the top, which has always been a political appointment, with a political agenda.

I'll point out that during the cold war, the actual agents got the facts right.
The politicians said "don't the soviets have all these super secret weapons"
The CIA said "We can find absolutely no evidence"
The Politicians said "The soviets have weapons so super secret that not even the CIA can not detect them, so lets spend zillions on defence"

Nothing has changed . . . .

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2017, 08:55:11 AM »
They hate Trump-he is Pro America, they are Pro-World Domination.
Was Trump's support of the "Patriot" Act, torture more severe than waterboarding, and desiring to cripple freedom of speech on the Internet his own choosing, or was he forced to say that he supported it?  If the 1st is true, he is a traitor, if he's really against it but was given a script, (being ordered to say it) then he is a complicit puppet (which makes him a traitor as well).  Which is it?  Because good luck trying to say that supporting such things is pro-American.

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2017, 11:18:02 PM »
In the CIA, or the FBI for that matter . . . The bulk of the Agents are loyal, patriotic, thoroughly decent people.

The problem is at the top, which has always been a political appointment, with a political agenda.
True

Was Trump's support of the "Patriot" Act, torture more severe than waterboarding, and desiring to cripple freedom of speech on the Internet his own choosing, or was he forced to say that he supported it?  If the 1st is true, he is a traitor, if he's really against it but was given a script, (being ordered to say it) then he is a complicit puppet (which makes him a traitor as well).  Which is it?  Because good luck trying to say that supporting such things is pro-American.

Good luck trying to get someone convicted of treason for not having anything to do with passing "The Patriot Act", but not being against it. Frankly when agents and diplomats of a foreign country are involved in attacking and killing thousands of people and those agents and diplomats are protected in order to push a lie in order to have wars against countries not involved and stuffing people into holes and torturing them for decades because they are problematic to the BS story officials peddle to the public-well....if that is not treason then there is no such thing.

As for some of Trump's statements ...
I don't agree with everything Trump says and does. And I'm sure I wont agree with everything he says and does in the future.

First off-Trump has never been involved in the torture of anyone. And let's get real-in the very unlikely scenario that someone has information that will save the lives of innocents, who are about to die, and they will not give up that information-why would you be against torture? The answer: "because it doesn't work"- is not true. That is only true if they do not have the information you are seeking. I do not support torture. However in the very unlikely scenario that you have someone in custody, and for whatever reason you know that they have information that will save my children from imminent death. Torture him! Get that information! None of this has to do with what Brennan and Tenet and the other scumbags at CIA Hq were doing! Trump isn't wanting to torture anybody for the reasons that were done in the past because he was not involved in that treason. He also was saying this during the debates where he knows "terrorists" could be watching. Let's look at the real reason the CIA was torturing people.

APR 11 2016
Director Brennan: CIA Won’t Waterboard Again — Even if Ordered by Future President

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/director-brennan-cia-won-t-waterboard-again-even-if-ordered-n553756

Gosh! Isn't he great? This guy was defending his torture earlier. BTW the "Future President" is someone he won't have anything to do with.  Brennan defended torture until he was against it. One reason why Trump has no interest in any briefings from this lying scum, is he is not worth getting intelligence briefings from because he is a treasonous lying traitor.

The prisoners who got the worst torture-what a coincidence!

Zubaydah ---Has Saudi Ambassador Bandar Bush private numbers - why?
Binalshibh -- Saudi Agent Bassnan was trying to get him into America to kill people
KSM     ------Will confess to anything......EXCEPT WHERE HE GETS HIS MONEY!
Bin Attash  --Was escorted into America by Saudi Diplomat Fahad Al-Thumairy- the hijackers "contact" in America

They get tortured not because they have information of an immenent attack. But because they have to have their minds destroyed.

Zubaydah:

Even after the interrogation team told CIA headquarters that it was “highly unlikely” he had the information they were looking for, interrogators continued to waterboard Abu Zubaydah, who “coughed, vomited, and had involuntary spasms of the torso and extremities’” during the procedure. At one point, he "became completely unresponsive, with bubbles rising through his open, full mouth."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-torture-report-stunning-findings/story?id=27473273

In fact, the CIA brass at Langley, Va., ordered his interrogators to keep at it long after the latter warned that he had been wrung dry.

No one can pass unscathed through an ordeal like this. Abu Zubaydah paid with his mind.

Today, he suffers blinding headaches and has permanent brain damage. He has an excruciating sensitivity to sounds, hearing what others do not. The slightest noise drives him nearly insane.

The enduring torment is the taunting reminder that darkness encroaches. Already, he cannot picture his mother's face or recall his father's name. Gradually, his past, like his future, eludes him.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/30/opinion/oe-margulies30

Why? Because he has private numbers of Bandar Bush and Bandar's "driver" in Washington DC.....

From The 28 Pages:

Phone Numbers Linking Abu Zubaida to a Company in the United States and a Saudi Diplomat in Washington

On March 28, 2002 U.S. and coalition forces retrieved the telephone book of Abu Zubaida, whom the U.S. Government has identified as a senior al-Qa’ida operational coordinator. According to an FBI documents, "a review of toll records has linked several of the numbers found in Zubaida's phonebook with U.S. phone numbers." One of the numbers is unlisted and subscribed to by the ASPCOL Corp. in Aspen, Colorado.

ASPCOL is the umbrella corporation that manages the affairs of the Colorado residence of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

According to the FBI, the phone number of an individual named [redacted] of McLean, Virginia was found within the effects of Abu Zubaida. [redacted] is reportedly a bodyguard at the Saudi Embassy in Washington, DC......located at [redacted], in McLean, Virginia. The FBI has identified this address as the address of Prince Bandar. According to the FBI, [redacted] is officially a driver for the Saudi Embassy. [Redacted] number was also linked to ASPCOL, Prince Bandar’s umbrella company located in Colorado.

https://28pagesdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/declasspart4.pdf

Binalshibh:

But Binalshibh will be tortured. He won't be tortured to "prevent the next 9-11", or "actionable intelligence", he'll be tortured, and kept from the public because he's problematic to the Government's story of "the 9/11 conspiracy", so are the others held in Gitmo and being tortured.

By the time the CIA got their hands on Binalshibh he had already talked, priority number 1-torture him anyway and keep at it.......


"CIA decided to render Ramzi BinalShibh to its prison in Poland in February 2003, interrogators prepared for his arrival by drafting an interrogation plan that called for him to be shaved, stripped, and shackled “hand and foot with arms outstretched over his head” in a cold room – all before interrogators even met him and determined whether he was “cooperative,” to use the report’s term.

Bin al Shibh was then subjected to torture techniques for an estimated 34 days straight.  When the interrogators cabled CIA headquarters that they did not believe Bin al Shibh had the information it sought, superiors told them to keep going, and so they did, for another three weeks."

https://www.aclu.org/blog/human-rights-national-security/what-did-cias-torture-program-have-do-intelligence-gathering-not

CIA headquarters where "superiors told them to keep going, and so they did" -- Where Brennan and Tennet are very comfortable.

The report also reveals that over and over, with victim after victim, CIA headquarters told interrogators to keep going even when the interrogators assessed that the prisoner did not have the information the CIA sought, was “cooperating,” or might be permanently psychologically damaged.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/human-rights-national-security/what-did-cias-torture-program-have-do-intelligence-gathering-not

So why is he being tortured after providing information? Because the torture programs main purpose is not about "stopping the next attack". It's about destroying the minds of the captives.This has to be stopped, and can be with OPEN PUBLIC TRIALS, and ending the cover up of the 28 pages. Releasing the 28 pages AND having public trials of the 5 charged with 9-11, will lead to answers and expose truth.

BinalShibhs' mind has to be destroyed as well.

So he went from....
"known within the community as being sociable, extroverted, polite, and adventuresome."
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

to....
"reports that he has been treated for schizophrenia."

Congratulations on the CIA's torture program - Mission Accomplished!!

Because if the trials were public and the 28 pages released it would expose who he is being sacrificed for. He is charged with.....

"Binalshibh provided the 9/11 attackers with money and help in finding flight training."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

Actually it was Saudi Agents Basnan and Bayoumi who provided money and "help in finding flight training." But they aren't being tortured. They are being protected. In a real trial evidence would be produced. The evidence is in the Investigation done by the FBI Agents, and investigators for the Joint Inquiry. This evidence is covered up in order to have secret trials and torture.

He is also charged with.....

"He was supposed to be one of the 9/11 hijackers himself, on orders from Osama Bin Laden, but assumed a supporting role after he was denied a U.S. visa four times, authorities alleged."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

Actually, it was Saudi Agent Osama Basnan who tried to get Binalshibh a visa to get into America, and is a convicted felon for it, along with his wife. Basnan is also an ardent supporter of Bin Laden and had contact with his family. This is why the 28 pages have to be released. This cover up has to end. It's already cost trillions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of deaths, in a "Pre-emptive War", loss of liberties, and you can add torture to the list.

This FBI report is headed....
"Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923070317/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-xx-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

The PENTTBOMB Subjects are:
Osama Yousef Basnan and Omar Ahmed Al-Bayoumi
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923070317/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-xx-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

BinalShibh kept getting denied a visa, he's not a Saudi, he's from Yemen, and somebody at the state department was doing their job, but he wanted to come to America and Basnan and his wife tried to help him come here by marriage fraud. Or as the 9-11 Commission whitewash put it in a buried footnote.....

"Even after the last application was rejected, Binalshibh sought ways to get a visa, such as by marrying a U.S. citizen. He corresponded by email with a woman in California, but Atta told him to discontinue this effort."-  footnote 52 page 536/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

The "woman in California" the 9-11 whitewash report fails to mention is Osama Basnans' wife. All these Saudi Agents involved hide behind their wives as a laughable plausible deniability smokescreen. Bandars wifes' account sending money to Basnans' wife who turns it over (for some unexplained reason) to Bayoumis' wife and the money somehow ends up in the hands of the 9-11 hijackers.

And it wasn't just email Binalshibh was using with his California contacts, they were in phone contact as well, according to an FBI Penttbom investigator....

Event: Interview of FBI Special Agent ________________

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting,_________ stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's __________________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000. ________stated that they apparently met over the internet, as Binalshibh was looking for an American wife. _______stated that Binalshibh has confirmed this fact in interrogations."

https://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458#download

Basnan and his wife were both convicted according to court documents....

According to court documents I have accessed, Basnans wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat, has a history of engaging in sham marriages, in order to procure welfare benefits from the American taxpayer....

To be specific Court documents state the following...

"Approximately sixteen months after Dweikat's and Basnan's entry into the United States, on November 6, 1997, Michael Andrew Mason, a U.S. citizen, executed INS Form I-130 "Petition for Alien Relative," indicating that Dweikat was his wife. The Form I-130 was accompanied by a copy of a marriage certificate from the Commonwealth of Virginia which indicated that Mason and Dweikat were married on October 20, 1997."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/300723984/USA-VS-DWEIKAT

"Even after the last application was rejected, Binalshibh sought ways to get a visa, such as by marrying a U.S. citizen. He corresponded by email with a woman in California, but Atta told him to discontinue this effort."-  9-11 commission whitewash report footnote 52 page 536/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Both Basnan and his wife are convicted felons and were given a $100 fine (which was waived) and left the county. Hosting parties for the Blind Sheik, supporting Bin Laden, funneling money from Bandar to the hijackers, engaging in visa fraud to try and get other 9-11 hijackers into the country and Basnan is fined $100, which he doesn't have to pay, and is protected because of his Saudi Intelligence ties, while Binalshibh gets tortured for twelve years. 

And yes, I know this means nothing because "Israel did 9-11 and framed the Saudis". But I also fell for "planes flying into buildings" so what can I say, I guess I'm just a gullible sap-no ones perfect.
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 11:27:17 PM »

The CIA is a globalist strong arm.  I think they get their orders through England.   What I don't like is that my taxes pay for it.
Should the CIA be defunded and disbanded, I'm sure they are already copying everything to set up headquarters somewhere else.  At least my tax dollars won't being paying for it  :)

So what do we do?  I say kick them out, defend against them.

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2017, 10:06:23 AM »
Good luck trying to get someone convicted of treason for not having anything to do with passing "The Patriot Act", but not being against it.
I never said anything about a conviction.  I can call someone a traitor just off of his statements.  You said he was pro-America, despite those public comments he made.  You have an 'interesting' definition of what pro-American is.

Frankly when agents and diplomats of a foreign country are involved in attacking and killing thousands of people and those agents and diplomats are protected in order to push a lie in order to have wars against countries not involved and stuffing people into holes and torturing them for decades because they are problematic to the BS story officials peddle to the public-well....if that is not treason then there is no such thing.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=277371.msg1533381#msg1533381
WTCs Marsh & Mclennan had Al Qaeda linked man as director

According to this entry on history commons:

Abdullah Taha Bakhsh appears to be Samaual Bakhsh who is listed on British company websites as a director of Marsh & Mclennan Services in London.
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/905055335

Bakhsh is also co-director of companies with a least two Al Qaeda Golden Chain funders according to Wikipedias Golden Chain entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Chain

Abdullah Taha Bakhsh was listed as a director of Marsh & Mclennan Services in London.
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/905055335

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341515.shtml
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Kroll and Goldman Sachs aided AIG and Marsh & McLennan on the demolitions side of the operation--with Goldman Sachs providing financial aid: Goldman Sachs buys up WTCs for a song; and then Kroll, Mossad, and Marvin Bush's Securatec destroy the buildings with Silverstein as their front man. Incidentally, there was a personal motive for Goldman Sachs involvement: the 240 billion dollar bond that came due on Sept. 11, 2001 that is connected to them. Plus, the WTC attacks and controlled demoltions destroyed Goldman Sachs high U.S. currency financial fraud of their own in the process on site in the WTCs--which was held in the completely decimated offices of Cantor Fitzgerald, right in the bullseye of the WTC1 plane hit zone with Marsh and McLennan staff all murdered by design as well to remove their knowledge of the money laundering going on on 9-11. --- Links below, citations, and analysis.

Goldman Sachs Chairman was on board of In-Q-Tel/lengthy 9/11 false flag ties
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=174292.msg1035786#msg1035786

AIG's connection to drugs and terrorism - written August 14, 2001!!!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=58991.msg297696#msg297696

https://washingtontechnology.com/topmergersandacquisitionslists/topmergersandacquisitionslist-topic/2010/cerberus-capital-management.aspx
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Cerberus Capital Management
Buyer   Cerberus Capital Management
Buyer HQ   New York City
Seller   DynCorp International
Seller HQ   NA
Close Date   07/07/2010
Gross Purchase Price   $1,562 million
Seller Revenue   NA
What they bought   NA
Advisors   Goldman Sachs
Buyer Top 100 Rank   NA
Seller Top 100 Rank:   23
https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/us-markets/TDJNDN_2016110918317/donald-trumps-financial-advisory-team-stocked-with-wall-streeters.html
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...Stephen Feinberg, the co-founder of Cerberus Capital Management LP, had a busy morning Wednesday tracking volatile markets but was relieved by Mr. Trump's victory, a person familiar with the matter said. Mr. Feinberg came on board as an economic adviser because he believed Mr. Trump's proposals would reverse low capital spending by corporations and spur companies to hire more workers and increase wages, the person said.

The Trump campaign sought Mr. Feinberg's assistance because of his experience turning around multiple businesses at Cerberus, including in the auto industry, people close to the campaign said. Cerberus became well known for buying Chrysler in 2007, only to have its equity wiped out in the car maker's subsequent bankruptcy.

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2017, 10:59:02 AM »
I never said anything about a conviction.  I can call someone a traitor just off of his statements.  You said he was pro-America, despite those public comments he made.  You have an 'interesting' definition of what pro-American is.


So, do you like how the Trump op has made 'enemies of the republic' into heroes?

Should it NOT be glaringly obvious why the corporate media was 'ordered' to attack Trump?
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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2017, 11:19:06 AM »

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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2017, 02:10:13 PM »
You have an 'interesting' definition of what pro-American is.
Thank you. I wish I could say the same about your post. I guess it is making some kind of point, but not sure what.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=277371.msg1533381#msg1533381
WTCs Marsh & Mclennan had Al Qaeda linked man as director

Well, this persons links to "al Qaeda" are flimsy at best, and I suppose this means you admit there is an "al Qaeda" but him having nothing to do with this company since early 1999 is supposed to make me think something or other....

     Company Name          Company Status   Position   Appointed  Resigned
 MCLENNAN SERVICES LIMITED   Dissolved   Director   27/11/96   04/05/99

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/905055335/SAMAUAL-ABDULLAH-TAHA-BAKHSH/companies

I'm guessing this is "proof" that this financial company is secretly one of the worlds best demolition companies as well?

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341515.shtml
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AIG and Marsh & McLennan were focused on participating in both short and long-term money laundering schemes during 9-11 events, while Kroll and Goldman Sachs aided AIG and Marsh and McLellan on the demolitions side of the operation:



Marsh & McLennan Companies

OUR COMPANIES
We are four companies with one purpose, helping our clients meet the challenges of our time.


Marsh
Insurance broking and risk management


Guy Carpenter
Risk and reinsurance intermediary services


Mercer
Talent, health, retirement, and investment consulting


Oliver Wyman
Management, economic, and brand strategy consulting

http://www.mmc.com/about-us/overview.html

I suppose it was smart not to advertise their demolitions expertise?

I'm just not bright enough to figure out what the point is to the rest --so I'll just go ahead and say Ya gotme 
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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2017, 02:11:56 PM »

Should it NOT be glaringly obvious why the corporate media was 'ordered' to attack Trump?

Ordered by who? And which ones got the order - all of them? How did whoever gave this order know everyone would go along with it and that no one would ever "spill the beans"?

Or did you just make that up?
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Re: CIA Vs Trump
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2017, 02:40:04 PM »
I'm just not bright enough to figure out what the point is to the rest --so I'll just go ahead and say Ya gotme
The point is you're hanging the blame on the Saudis, Prince Bandar, the 28 pages (the very definition of a limited hangout operation) and the CIA, while completely ignoring involvement of multiple US defense Contractors and other agencies.  Search results show zero posts with your name with MITRE Corporation in a search, (and only 2 with SAIC with nothing significant by you) shows how narrowly focused your research was.  What you don't get is your incessant commenting on the 28 pages/Saudi Prince Bandar limited hangout serves as a huge obfuscating smokescreen serving to distract from involvement of numerous defense contractors, and many more intel agencies other than household alphabet agencies like just the CIA.  The govt. wouldn't let the public see the 28 pages if it was actually going to harm Kissinger, Brzezinski, CFR, CSIS, and the rest of the non-Saudi military industrial complex, think-tank architects.

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Re: How will they try to stop Trump next?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2017, 02:51:57 PM »
Because I know the difference between a theory and a fact, and documented and alleged. And good source and bad. Your beliefs do not equate documented facts. I disagree with you on what is reality. And your accusation is wrong anyway. Obviously anything the Saudis did was approved.

What can I say- i got duped. Shame on me with not going along with your "facts"

Your limited hangout argument is old-I'm bored with it. No one is stopping you from "revealing the truth"

I already know -

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