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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 08:38:08 AM » |
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Zeitgeist Addendum preaches illuminati communism
Unrealistic "Venus" fantasy system of the Theosophists is the road to enslavementAlexander Benesch www.infokrieg.tvOctober 18th 2008 With the recently released sequel "Zeitgeist Addendum" you realize that the first movie was there to soften up the audience for the long con. It preaches illuminati communism from start to finish and is a text book example of COINTELPRO activity to undermine legitimate movements. My own great-grandfather was a German who went to Russia and bred horses there. He was put into a gulag camp after the "revolution" that supposedly happened to create a utopia where no classes exist and the state "withers away". Now Zeitgeist Addendum tells us that the military/banking industrial complex is actually free market and we must only rid our society of money, decentralized enterprise and spirituality to achieve a world of pure justice and abundance. A contradictory, wholly unrealistic phantasy system called "Venus Project" is being advertised while critics are met not with legitimate counter arguments but with blunt accusations of intellectual shortcomings and block-headed religious faith. Now that Peter Joseph has shown his true colors by promoting the Theosophic Society, a key front group of the occult illuminati religion, through the so-called "global messiah" we know that the talk of atheism was simply a charade. A few kilometers from where I live is the city of Ingolstadt, where the different new world order front groups played their good cop / bad cop routine before. The Vatican arm of the new world order publicly demonized science and progress while the Illuminati of Bavaria under the leadership of Adam Weishaupt approached the young educated talents and said: We're the alternative, join us and we will secretly work to eradicate christianity, the classes and create world peace. Like any garden variety cult leader, Peter Joseph simply kept repeating his points in a hypnotist's fashion during the interview on the Alex Jones Show. Here's a news flash for those stuck in this trance: You CAN have a fair money system. Fair money is only a service to facilitate trade. If you forbid money, you forbid decentralised free trade and ownership. How do you enforce a ban of money when people would certainly try to create new currencies? One would need surveillance and punishments. But Peter Joseph would deny that and say over and over that this could be done peacefully through a "change of consciousness". Only when Alex pressed him did he slip up and and mention "reconditioning", "reeducation", which are of course euphemisms for communist brainwashing. The people cannot effectively trade without money, so without money there would emerge either a primitive economy where only goods are exchanged or a central government with a planned economy. The so-called third alternative, the "resource based economy" is a fraud because it is nothing more than a fantasy. Peter Joseph tried hard to avoid answering the question of who would make the decisions and how they would be enforced. He would have had to admit that any attempt to create this new system would totally contradict his slogan of abolishing classes and competition. He also wants to take peoples right to own guns. Another example of those gurus talking down to us like to a bunch of children. These people and their new age leftwing gullible followers want to simply remove guns from the population. How could you remove something from the population that can be built with moderate skills in somebodys workshop with few tools and materials? Only with total surveillance and control. But then you have a police state. Peter Joseph and the other cranks also promise to eradicate scarcity. Whereas Alex constantly exposes artificial scarcity scams like peak oil and promotes individual empowerment, the new agers just deliver more empty promises that defy logic. Scarcity is relative and therefore universal. As soon as you crave something that you don't own or control, you feel there is a scarcity. Abundance is therefore relative too. Somebody might feel that what he owns could be classified as abundance, another person might regard this as not enough. Yes, we can mass produce things like washing machines, but we cannot mass produce for example certain pieces of property or certain people. To use an example: In the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" we see the story of an isolated african tribe in the Kalahari Desert where some pilot one day flies overhead and drops an empty coke bottle. The tribe lives in relative scarcity, scarcity by our standards. But the tribe members regard their lives as abundance: What they need or think they need is available in quantities that suffice. There's enough wood too make spears and so on. Then the tribe starts fighting over that coke bottle, there is a never before felt sense of scarcity. They cannot create and follow a set of laws to regulate the use of this popular item so they decide to get rid of it. An isolated tribe might get away with these self-imposed limitations but human society as a whole cannot eradicate competition. There's always going to be a situation like when the British came to the area that is today Saudi-Arabia, picked the strongest tribe and said: Here's the guns and the strategy, you will be our enforcement arm. We have accepted our natural instincts and drives and have found ways to harness them. According to the Zeitgeist crowd however, competition is pure programming and can be eradicated. People depend on their abilities to rank, to judge, to compare and to compete. It is the source of advancement and culture. The militant pseudoegalitarianism of Zeitgeist and the Venus Project appeals to people who want to somehow escape the basic demands of life. How many of these people are losers who don't want to make the effort to excel and rather want to drag everybody else down? The Theosophists made their move with Zeitgeist Addendum and we are making ours now. Peter Joseph doesn't want his audience to really research the science of tyranny and deception where we have literally thousands of years of recorded history. We will not be conned.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 09:16:56 AM » |
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good call germanwarrior i cant believe 100,000 people came to st louis to hear Obama speak.  we're in alot of trouble 
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 "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." Qur'an 5:2 At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 03:51:39 AM » |
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There are so many good points here but it's the black and white, fearful reaction to anything that doesn't conform to your model of how things should be that is dangerous. Joseph is naive in some ways but his message is useful in waking people up to the state we are in. Ultimately the final message of the film is that we need a change of consciousness if we are ever going to solve our fundamental problems, which no-one can deny. Anyone who thinks we can change society without changing our flawed, limited, primarily self-centered psychology is more naive than joseph when, for example he points the finger at money as being the root of evil.
The whole attack on Krishnamurti is absurd to anyone who knows even the basics of Krishnamurti's message. Tsarion was aware of this pettiness the day before the joseph interview, perhaps hoping to sow the seeds of unity in the face of the controlling mechanism, he warned of the dangers of bickering. I think he knew what was the likely outcome of the next day.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 09:17:54 AM » |
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I am relatively new to the whole NWO stuff, so bear with me. I ran across this movement last night, watched the films and was wondering what other people's thoughts were on it. Just from what I saw it seemed to be a logical solution and humanity's version of the NWO. One that works for the people opposite of the enslavement version we are being dished out now. If sovereignty and solutions within the current system cannot be accomplished, is this not a reasonable solution moving forward? It is progressive as hell but sounds like it sure beats the the alternative that is staring me in the face.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 09:37:24 AM » |
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yap, its a great idea, but you wont convince 6billion to change their way of thinking... slavery is all they've ever know. those venus project concepts are for the survivors after the planet is nuked.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 09:51:34 AM » |
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Venus = Lucifer
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 09:59:09 AM » |
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I can definitely see the movement being hi jacked by some sort of socialist, communist agenda. At the same time, I can see how it should work. The problem there in lies, if it was my idea, it would work theoretically the way they state but since it's already in someone else's hands, I now have to question if it truly is for the good in which it speaks.
Man it is hard to live now that I have opened my eyes to all of this.
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Lucifer= the Morning Star Jesus= the Morning Star Are you saying you believe that they are the same being? but nowhere in the bible does it state Lucifer is Satan. Furthermore, Lucifer is a druid deity that predates Judaism and Christianity. Like I said earlier, when you actually open up the text and read it for yourself you see things are completely different than what you've been lead to believe. However, if I am wrong, please point out the errors as I am looking for absolute truth. Lucifer is the deity of freemasonry. Luciferianism is evil, whether you're a Christian, a Buddhist or whatever. What more do you need? BTW, are you going to ask Russell Pine why he calls himself Jordan Maxwell? I'd like to know if it has anything to do with the Knights Templars' initiation ritual at the river Jordan, called the Maxwell.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 10:05:39 AM » |
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Zeitgeist has been heavily promoted by the mainstream.
People need to stop being so easily led and start thinking critically.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 10:08:49 AM » |
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Zeitgeist has been heavily promoted by the mainstream.
People need to stop being so easily led and start thinking critically.
I am thinking critically, hence the reason I posted on here to get views on it. I would have no idea if it is mainstream seeing as how I have cut that out of my daily life at this point, and, because I am relatively new in the waking up process.
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@Geo: Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." just one of the many bible passages that call The big-J the Morning Star. In fact the only time the word Lucifer is used at all in the bible is in Isaiah 14:12 but in the original Hebrew that word use is Helel who was a Babylonian king. So I'd like to know where did this whole mythology around the Catholic version of Lucifer came from?
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You know what the funny and maybe just a little sad thing here is? Before their domestication by the Romans sheep were regarded as one of the more aggressive and free spirited creatures on this planet, sound familiar anyone?
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 10:33:50 AM » |
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@Geo: Oh I now the story, I was putting that question out for others to ask themselves though I guess I didn't make that point clear so thanks anyways man  Of course there also aspects of Lucifer that can be traced back to the Babylonian Ishtar and the even older Sumerian Innana but that's a tale for another day...... Wait, oh snap you got the Maxwell on your show Sunday? Gravy! I'm defiantly tuning in on Thursday.
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You know what the funny and maybe just a little sad thing here is? Before their domestication by the Romans sheep were regarded as one of the more aggressive and free spirited creatures on this planet, sound familiar anyone?
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Wait, I wrote Sunday instead of Thursday? Lol whoops In guess given the subject matter I had the Sun on my mind.... Anyways since were on the subject talking about the sun hears a track form a game called .Hack//Sign called Aura, listen to the lyrics; I think you'll find them very interesting (wonder what Mr. Maxwell would think of them): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvIX9DYJIZA
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You know what the funny and maybe just a little sad thing here is? Before their domestication by the Romans sheep were regarded as one of the more aggressive and free spirited creatures on this planet, sound familiar anyone?
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 11:14:26 AM » |
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I am thinking critically, hence the reason I posted on here to get views on it. I would have no idea if it is mainstream seeing as how I have cut that out of my daily life at this point, and, because I am relatively new in the waking up process. I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, just people in general. We do not to stop being so easily led. I've tracked down some important information for you: June 2, 2009 Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" on RBN: Peace on Earth -- Adieu to You: "The Elite Who've Studied the People's Psychology Know How to Hide Behind Names, Terminology, Fascism, Nazism, Progressives, Democracy, Differing Faces of Intelligentsic Plutocracy, Down Through the Ages from Babylon's Tower, Recruiting Elite Wannabees, Gathering Power, Breeding Up Nations for Conquest by War, Then Crying 'Overpopulation,' à la Al Gore, Propping Up Control Freaks, Filled with Euphoria, To Evangelize World into Coming Utopia, But Give Up Your Birthright and Procreation As You Dream Yourself into Annihilation" - mp3 - transcript(Articles: " Swine flu pandemic 'will hit Britain in the autumn' " by Daniel Martin (dailymail.co.uk) - June 1, 2009.) " Row as terminally ill woman given bed in hospital bathroom" by Laura Donnelly (telegraph.co.uk) - May 31, 2009.) Yesterday I mentioned the fact that France had basically decided to inoculate ALL its citizens against this coming - which they’re SURE - Swine flu pandemic. It’s amazing, as I say, just think back to before 2001 and how we were sort of gradually led along through the 70s, the 80s and 90s. Not much was happening, even during the Cold War era. Really, not a lot was happening back home. We did notice industry leaving shores in different countries before they left Canada and the US. Britain was already deindustrializing back in the 70s and 80s. Then we find out back in the late 90s, once the EU Parliament is up, that that was part of the deal of the EU. That in 1948 they’d set up the whole agenda, set up the bureaucracies to lie to the public and to deindustrialize the country. This plan is a very, very old plan. Then it was the same to do with the US, Canada and the rest of the world. They already knew back in the 1930s they’d set up China to be the manufacturer of the world. Quite astonishing, isn’t it?
Every generation is lied to like children. For your own good, you understand, because you see, you just can’t understand the bigger picture and the necessities that people have to implement to make us all go along on the right path. The intelligentsia always know what the right path happens to be. I was thinking today about the term ‘liberal’ because the liberal term, if you understand, comes from life, really, LIFE. When Khrushchev was asked about the communist party in America, when he was visiting the US, he said, well here we don’t call them communist, we call them liberal. That got me thinking because if you go into the Fabian Society and all its members and the Royal Institute for International Affairs, and the people they put forth that became the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations, the ones who drafted up the amalgamations for the whole of Europe and worked on it. The ones who have drafted up for the amalgamations of the Americas and came out on national television in Canada AS the CFR admitting it and boasting about it. They always call themselves liberal, for life.
When you go in to the books put out by the big intelligentsia of each generation, they all belong to the SAME groups. They describe themselves as liberal. Now, most folk think that’s a party, a political party. So they give you a political party to take you off what they really, really mean. It’s about LIFE. You have to read the books put out by the Huxley’s and by HG Wells. HG Wells wrote A Modern Utopia, a book supposedly about the future and how you’d have a stroll through this utopia. In the book, he tells you why these liberal type people, the intelligentsia, would HAVE TO, through various means, take over the world and reduce the population, get rid of all the wrong sorts. The type that literally had been stuck in evolution, all the ones at the bottom. Included in all the ones at the bottom, were the masses of the working classes that he realized they wouldn’t need when they went through into a post-industrial era. Very pragmatic, you see, from his point of view.
Under the liberal disguise is Darwinism. Darwinism BELIEVES in survival of the fittest and really that’s who HG Wells was sent out to help recruit for the next generation. Those who’d read his books, his fiction and nonfiction books, and get drawn in, captivated with the idea of creating this utopia of an intelligentsia and an intelligentsia with VIRTUE. They always mention virtue. The peasants don’t have any apparently. And how they’d have to come through these stages, generation by generation, to create their PERFECT SMALL UTOPIA. He really outlined it more, how they would get there, including the sterilization, mandatory sterilization of those who were inferior. HG Wells praised Stalin initially. He went over and visited him many times. He also left his son to study with Pavlov that was one of Wells’ heroes because they were using SCIENCE to control all the children… to give a form of mind control in all the schools for behavior modification.
FDR’s wife, in fact, also went over to see the Soviet Union. She visited Pavlov. She also mentioned that was her hero. She was so impressed with the WELL-BEHAVED MANNERS of the Soviets as they drolled off to school every morning, in file. She said they didn’t speak to each other. They’d be sullen by American standards, not jumping all over the place and laughing, but she said they were SO well behaved. She really thought that was fantastic.
Anyway, HG Wells also saw Hitler too. Remember, communism and socialism are both socialist policies, which is again the TECHNIQUE the liberals use. Remember the TRUE meaning of liberal, not the party itself… People follow the parties and they like to categorize themselves. Well, you don’t put yourself in a box if you want to think and understand what’s really happening. However, through this disguise of liberalism, it heads, eventually, to a scientific dictatorship. The type that Huxley, both Julian and Aldous, spoke about would be brought in to force. We’re seeing it today. Lord Bertrand Russell also mentioned that. That the world would be run by experts and they’d have to be totalitarian. They couldn’t just coerce and cajole people in to behaving and following all the new rules and laws. They’d have to use force eventually, on the public. Before that era came in, they’d have to use all tactics, including fake panics. Panics. Crisis creation.
Getting back to 2001, look at the world before it, look what’s happened since. We’ve had one fake crisis after another. So much so, that every government across the planet that’s IN on this agenda and pretty well every one of them is… they’ve given themselves TOTAL POWERS to watch every single person. Total information network, they call it. Total means every word you utter, write, fax, whatever, email. Because in a totalitarian society everyone must be predictable.
Jumping back to HG Wells and others of his ilk. They’re all in the same club, remember. The Fabian technique. The Fabian technique was to take over socialism and implement it not through a single revolution like the communists did, but to do it intergenerationally. Take over government, expand all of its premises and areas in to every facet of every individuals life. And they have succeeded. It’s in the open today.
The crisis of 2001, September 11th, was the kick-off date for the full implementation of the last part of the takeover. THAT is what papa Bush talked about 10 years before on September the 11th, before 2001, when he gave his speech about “the new world order coming in to view, UNDER LAW“, he said. No one ever questions what does this man mean? Please DEFINE law. Whose law? No one asks questions. It’s a totalitarian system. I always think back to Lord Bertrand Russell who wrote in one of his books that they would also use other techniques to control the masses. He was talking about fertility and IQ or even your ability to rebel. He said we shall use the NEEDLE, the needle, meaning inoculations. What’s the current rage right now? Inoculations for everything. SUDDENLY. They just KNOW that Swine Flu - a name that Israel won’t use because it’s offensive - is going to wipe out millions of people. Maybe. I’ll be back with more on this story after these messages.
Hi folks. I am Alan Watt back Cutting Through The Matrix. Just discussing how crisis creation works in a particular area, a direction, which happens to be a plan. Remembering too, and I’ve given lots of talks in the past to do with the big military-industrial complex and the big laboratories that are all part of it. You’ve got to understand that the powers that be at the top, they can’t tell the children what they’re doing to them… especially when it’s something that would offend them… quite mightily… to do with their lives or sterilization or whatever it happens to be. They simply go ahead and do it under other guises. It’s for the GREATER GOOD, they call it. That’s what they say to themselves, ‘it’s for the greater good and the poor people wouldn’t understand‘.
You used to have people in South African countries that would say that about the blacks. You know, they’re children, you can’t tell them this and tell them that. You’ve got to treat them like children. Well, you see, that attitude is used across the whole world today by these ultra liberals, the intelligentsia, the ones that are all ‘on board’ to create this wonderful zeitgeist addendum. This lovely little utopia, this SHRUNKEN utopia, where a big world will be available for a few to play in. You know, the better types will survive. They’re the ones. They just don’t tell you in Zeitgeist how they’re going to get from here to there. You see? They catch your imagination and give you a utopic idea, an imaginary idea, but they don’t tell you HOW. Of course, each person who falls for it thinks, well, I guess I’ll be one of those who are chosen. Even though Julian Huxley, the first CEO of UNESCO, said in his own book and I’ve read it on the air. He says many will think that they’re fit to come through into this new society, but they’ll be sadly mistaken. Even lots of the workers that work hard and feverishly for their masters, hoping to become a master, won’t get in either. They’ll be disposed of along the way.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 11:29:00 AM » |
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To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you to make your farms flourish and let clean waters flow; to nourish starved bodies and feed hungry minds. And to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to suffering outside our borders; nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it.
...We honor (Veterans/servicemen) not only because they are guardians of our liberty, but because they embody the spirit of service; a willingness to find meaning in something greater than themselves. And yet, at this moment - a moment that will define a generation - it is precisely this spirit that must inhabit us all.
...What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility - a recognition, on the part of every American, that we have duties to ourselves, our nation, and the world, duties that we do not grudgingly accept but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.
Obama Inaugural Speech. Get it? They want to control all resources and decide who gets what. Resources, service to others, new era, something greater than ourselves...this is New Age Socialism. Have a cup of coffee and try opening both eyes. Peter Joseph and Barack Obama are on the same team.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 11:37:14 AM » |
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Lucifer= the Morning Star Jesus= the Morning Star
but nowhere in the bible does it state Lucifer is Satan. Furthermore, Lucifer is a druid deity that predates Judaism and Christianity. Like I said earlier, when you actually open up the text and read it for yourself you see things are completely different than what you've been lead to believe. However, if I am wrong, please point out the errors as I am looking for absolute truth.
No its not. That just goes to show just how well you research anything. Bonafide, LIAR. Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. when you actually open up the text and read it for yourself you see things are completely different than what you've been lead to believe. Words you should live by. Maybe you should give up all this theospohical ideas your following and learn a little truth.
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truth is an evolution so my view may change as more information comes to light. If you remember me from a couple of years ago, I was the bull horning, founding father loving, 1776 preaching kind of guy. I'm afraid I haven't been following your career for the last two years. Then new information came and I became what I am now. I believe that is the most honest approach when it comes to seeking truth. You have to follow the evidence NO MATTER WHERE IT TAKES YOU. PERIOD. If you refuse to think critically about the people planted out there in the "truth movement", and their information, and you combine this with a philosophy of "follow the evidence NO MATTER WHERE IT TAKES YOU. PERIOD." then you will do more harm than good in the long term. We have disagreed about this in the past, but that isn't important. The reality is that if you don't acknowledge that there is disinfo out there, and that there are people who are there specifically to feed you that disinformation, then you are no less naive than the "bullhorning, founding-father loving, 1776 preaching" kind of guys. And unfortunately, you have been promoting some of them. I doubt this will be welcomed by you, but it happens to be the truth. For the second question, I'll try to fit that question in. If I remember correctly he derived the name from two scholars or philosophers or something of that nature. LOL If I can fit it into the conversation, I will definitely ask. If you want to fit it in, you will find a way. There's no good reason why you couldn't ask him about his chosen name at the beginning of the interview. Also, if you can fit it in, ask him about the time he was on the Jeff Rense show when he talked about seeing dinosaurs as a child. But let me put it like this. I wouldn't invite anyone into my home (my radio show) that I didn't respect so I'm not going to invite someone to attack them, disagree with them or tell any of my listeners what to believe. I'm standing firm in keeping the show positive, allowing the guests to present their information and allowing the listeners to come to their own conclusions. I am completely neutral in the conversations and I don't endorse or condemn anything that is said on the show to our listeners. That is for them to decide. Do you have any plans to invite Obama on, or George Bush? They could probably paint a very flattering picture of themselves and their New World Order, but it would be up to the listeners to decide, wouldn't it. You could find some respect for any of them if you looked from a certain perspective.
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Something to think about for sure  Let me also add, many people believe the resurrection wasn't written into the gospels until at least 400AD. Before, the story just ended with him being crucified. so all those manuscripts before 400 ad are all wrong? My Lord, read a book will ya, and leave Jordans lies behind.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2010, 11:54:50 AM » |
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Venus, of course, is the morning/evening star. IN CULTURE ...the Ancient Greeks called the morning star Φωσφόρος, Phosphoros (Latinized Phosphorus), the "Bringer of Light" or Ἐωσφόρος, Eosphoros (Latinized Eosphorus), the "Bringer of Dawn". The evening star they called Hesperos (Latinized Hesperus) (Ἓσπερος, the "star of the evening"). By Hellenistic times, the ancient Greeks realized the two were the same planet,[107][108] which they named after their goddess of love, Aphrodite (Phoenician Astarte).[109] Hesperos would be translated into Latin as Vesper and Phosphoros as Lucifer ("Light Bearer"), a poetic term later used to refer to the fallen angel cast out of heaven. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus Lucifer's connection to the "Morning Star" was also noted by Helena Blavatsky. "Lucifer" is the pale morning star, the precursor of the full blast of the noon-day sun... http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/luciferreprints.htm
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2010, 12:16:08 PM » |
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Awesome thanks, i'm gonna enjoy re-visiting this.  *Watching now*
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2010, 12:33:48 PM » |
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Awesome thanks, i'm gonna enjoy re-visiting this.  *Watching now* They discuss "Things To Come" a movie written by H.G. Wells...the movie Arthur C Clarke suggested Kubrick should watch. I already put a link to this vid in that thread... http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161139.0
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2010, 12:51:32 PM » |
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YUP! It's going to be a GREAT conversation!
I would be most interested if you could ask Jordan Maxwell the more difficult questions. Perhaps Dok and some of the others here could submit some suggestions.
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2010, 01:05:53 PM » |
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I would be most interested if you could ask Jordan Maxwell the more difficult questions. Perhaps Dok and some of the others here could submit some suggestions.
I have a great one, Why does he feel the need to constantly lie and make things up? Lets see here, Are you still in contact with your UFO brothers that sent you hear? Why does Sun and Son only work in english? Why do you keep showing a picture of a volcano and keep saying see it looks like a volcano? Why are you a fraud and deceiving and infiltrating the Truth movement? Just what were the size of those Trex's? i could go on and on. But im sure Mr. Geo wont ask any hard questions. Probably sit around and hum OHM, and channel some masters. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2010, 01:10:39 PM » |
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2010, 01:18:23 PM » |
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Need to move all the Jordan and Tsarion stuff in there.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2010, 02:34:33 PM » |
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I would be most interested if you could ask Jordan Maxwell the more difficult questions. Perhaps Dok and some of the others here could submit some suggestions. Here's another one: "You did an interview with agent of disinformation Zacharia Sitchin, on video. Firstly, why on earth would you do that? And secondly, why did you greet him with a masonic handshake at the beginning of that interview?" He probably wouldn't be back for a second interview if that question was asked of him. But that's a good thing.
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2010, 03:07:09 PM » |
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2010, 04:37:09 PM » |
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"For nothing is so mischievous as the apotheosis of error, and it is a very plague of the understanding for vanity to become the object of veneration." Bacon
^^Quite like this one, don't know where to put it, it's not directed at anyone anyways.
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2010, 04:43:21 PM » |
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So much infighting... it gets maddening after awhile. What is the point? You all are playing right into their hands. Division within the movement is what they want and you're certainly giving in to that. The more you guys fight, the more they sit back and laugh. "Mission accomplished" as Shrub would spew.
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I AM POLITICALLY AGNOSTIC AND PROUD OF IT - John Tsul
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2010, 04:45:48 PM » |
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Jordan is the right guy to ask if you want to know about the belief system of the elite.
These guys(Tsarion, Maxwell and Peter Joseph) are all selling the same shit...The New Age.
So is Jay Weidner and anyone calling themselves a "Nostradamus Expert" or "2012 Expert".
They should all be viewed as little more than entertainment...much like Pat Robertson.
Would you be more confrontational with Robertson than Maxwell or Tsarion? Just curious.
Personally, I put all three in the "Zealot Bag".
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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2010, 04:48:17 PM » |
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So much infighting...
Yes it sucks, on the other hand if there IS an agenda in place which one group is a part of, aware or unawares, then the other group must go with the exposing thingy.
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2010, 04:53:31 PM » |
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I heard Maxwell say that Dalai Lama means 'lamb of God'  Definitely keep your bullshitometer tweaked when listening to Maxwell.
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 "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." Qur'an 5:2 At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2010, 04:56:03 PM » |
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IMO, Venus Project and Zeitgeist are New Age related organizations and thinking, as well as humanistic. http://www.evolvethe.com/planet/environment/117-the-venus-projectOne of the basic premises of The Venus Project is that we work towards having all of the Earth's resources as the common heritage of all the world's people. (Isn't this collectivism, communitarianism which is what THIRD WAY people believe?)
The Venus Project advocates the transition from a monetary-based society to the eventual realization of a resource-based global economy. (So you can bet they agree with the Carbon tax idea) They also seem to adhere to the environmental ideas. So IMO they're just another arm of the NWO deceit. Here again, it may sound good in part, but it's just more deception. I also think that a lot of Transhumanists are involved in pushing this idea. I started watching Zeitgeist Addendum and as soon as I saw the guru in the beginning of the video, I knew it was NEW AGE. So be careful before you get sucked into this if you're not a proponent of the New Age movement. IMO
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2010, 04:58:11 PM » |
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Those people are not part of the movement. Since I started doing the show I've ran into hundreds, literally hundreds of people trying to stop me from doing what I'm doing. But I follow my own truth, no matter where it leads me. I want THE truth. Not MY truth. THE truth. It's tough to deal with these die hard Christians though because they seek to reaffirm what they've been raised to believe. That's not the way to truth. You have to FORGET everything you've been told. Take 9-11 for example. How are you going to find the truth behind 9-11 if you refuse to let go of the official story?
I thought you were 'christian' a few months ago.. why the change  Diehard christians? Why they need to die? And this is the TRUTH, I heard Maxwell say that Dalai Lama means 'lamb of God'
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 "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." Qur'an 5:2 At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2010, 05:01:58 PM » |
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Don't blame you, most radio shows only have on like minded people.
Plus, how long would your show last if you got confrontational with every guest?
I was really just wondering if you recognized that Tsarion and Maxwell are pushing a well established religious agenda?
Theosophy. The religion of the UN.
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