Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?

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Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« on: December 06, 2016, 11:09:07 PM »
Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?

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A statement from the famous German psychologist Carl Gustav Jung, which completely summarises a basic problem that affects our present days society, has motivated me to write this article. It is the problem of social and racial disintegration. Jung’s words are the most meaningful I have come across, pinning down the stagnation process that our society is going through.


We cannot possibly get beyond our present level of culture unless we receive a powerful impetus from our primitive roots. But we shall receive it only if we go back behind our cultural level, thus giving the suppressed primitive man in ourselves a chance to develop.

How this is to be done is a problem I have been trying to solve for years. The existing edifice is rotten. We need some new foundations. We must dig down to the primitive in us, for only out of the conflict between civilized man and the Germanic barbarian will there come what we need – a new experience of God. (See: Carl Gustav Jung and the Volkish movement)

It is obvious that Jung during his lifetime did not find a solution to the problem he mentioned above, which is the spiritual stagnation of western European culture that started in the 19th century and is coming to a crescendo right now. We only have to look at the last presidential election in the USA to realise that there is an ulcer of apocalyptic dimensions festering in the collective unconscious of that society.

It looks like we have been missing a certain dimension of knowledge. What does it mean when Jung says “giving the suppressed primitive man in ourselves a chance to develop”? It is like a mature man having come to the conclusion that in his early childhood he was much happier and had an inner richness of feelings and images that seem to have disappeared out of his life, while they come back only in flashes of dreams. Whatever he does to invoke these cherished memories only makes him more aware that his life has taken a wrong turn. Somewhere he knows that the past is present in him but that it is out of reach. As a metaphor this situation is valid for the whole of industrialised society, which has sacrificed her so called “primitive” but natural state for the sake of developing that industrial society. Modern western man is prevented from living his natural state of being by his conditionings.

Thus an extra cultural view could be helpful, an outsider view so to speak.

What distinguishes the western culture from the other cultures on earth? It is the development of Science, which means that through the implementation of technology we suffer from an over dose of intellectualism that is preying on our other mental faculties, like emotion, intuition and instinct. It means that it sucks vital energy and thereby distorts the other faculties, which are in their undistorted form necessary to function in life.




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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2016, 11:42:52 AM »
The best is to go by the Bible and only the Bible. Especially if we follow all of the Ten Commandments--just living by those ten principles helps us be better people.

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 07:59:52 PM »
The best is to go by the Bible and only the Bible. Especially if we follow all of the Ten Commandments--just living by those ten principles helps us be better people.

Exactly.

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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 04:30:34 PM »
The best is to go by the Bible and only the Bible. Especially if we follow all of the Ten Commandments--just living by those ten principles helps us be better people.

[/The Bible is essentially an Egyptian-retelling of Hebrew history liberally edited numerous times by groups with axes to grind. What remains is a very strange book indeed.

Even the name of the Bible is peculiar. The words “Holy Bible” translate as “Sun Book”. Why? Because the Egyptians who created it worshiped a sun god, Amon Ra, and their object in compiling the Bible was very different from what we assume.

Didn’t it ever strike you as odd that the Hebrews, out there roaming around in the desert, managed to compile such a record as the Bible presents?

Well, the fact is, they didn’t. The Egyptians and Ethiopians compiled and kept it for them from the time of Joseph to the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria and beyond.

It’s an Egyptian Monotheist search for the True God that preserved the history of the Hebrews and later, the history of the Israelites, and as a result, what comes down to us is seen through Egyptian-colored lenses.

This is also why you have been taught to say, “Amen” at the end of every prayer. This is like saying, “Dear Father in Heaven….blah, blah, blah…..Egyptian Sun God”.

We assume that “Amen” means “It shall be so.” and that it is like a seal confirming the missive sent Heavenward, but like so many other things —what we assume is undermined by other meanings of the same or similar sounding words.

Now, it may seem ridiculous and surely our Creator knows what we intend so that no heartfelt communication is wasted—-yet imagine the irony of it, that virtually every prayer in Christendom is factually indistinguishable from the prayers of Ancient Egyptian sun worshipers?

The Egyptians and Ethiopians were by far the largest contributors to the preservation of the history of the Hebrews and Hebrew writings in general until the time of the Romans, when the Romans took over the task of preserving, editing, and passing along the bits that served their purposes.

And the Romans were nothing, if not pragmatic.

The story of Jesus that they allowed to come forward is tailored to suit the Roman desire to preserve the Pax Romanus, the Roman Peace, and to inculcate the values of good citizenship—- that is, acquiescence to indentured servitude and slavery– among the conquered races.

The Jesus we have inherited is a watered-down and tamed version of the actual story, and central to His story, are facts that we are never, ever told.  Jesus lived in Nazareth all right, and so, he is called “a Nazarene”, but more importantly, he was also a Nazorean. More of the usual similar word deceits have been used to cover up this fact.

The Nazoreans were a populous sect inhabiting the Galilea area and standing as a buffer between the Samaritans to the North and the Temple Hebrews of the South. To put it mildly, Jesus came from the wrong side of the tracks, despite his bloodline to King David.

The Nazoreans as a group– to which John the Baptist also ...........

https://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2017/01/18/the-final-lamb-or-stop-being-stupid-part-21/

Source >>>   The Final Lamb, Or, Stop Being Stupid Part 21

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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 04:39:33 PM »
[/The Bible is essentially an Egyptian-retelling of Hebrew history liberally edited numerous times by groups with axes to grind. What remains is a very strange book indeed.

Even the name of the Bible is peculiar. The words “Holy Bible” translate as “Sun Book”. Why? Because the Egyptians who created it worshiped a sun god, Amon Ra, and their object in compiling the Bible was very different from what we assume.

Didn’t it ever strike you as odd that the Hebrews, out there roaming around in the desert, managed to compile such a record as the Bible presents?

Well, the fact is, they didn’t. The Egyptians and Ethiopians compiled and kept it for them from the time of Joseph to the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria and beyond.

It’s an Egyptian Monotheist search for the True God that preserved the history of the Hebrews and later, the history of the Israelites, and as a result, what comes down to us is seen through Egyptian-colored lenses.

This is also why you have been taught to say, “Amen” at the end of every prayer. This is like saying, “Dear Father in Heaven….blah, blah, blah…..Egyptian Sun God”.

We assume that “Amen” means “It shall be so.” and that it is like a seal confirming the missive sent Heavenward, but like so many other things —what we assume is undermined by other meanings of the same or similar sounding words.

Now, it may seem ridiculous and surely our Creator knows what we intend so that no heartfelt communication is wasted—-yet imagine the irony of it, that virtually every prayer in Christendom is factually indistinguishable from the prayers of Ancient Egyptian sun worshipers?

The Egyptians and Ethiopians were by far the largest contributors to the preservation of the history of the Hebrews and Hebrew writings in general until the time of the Romans, when the Romans took over the task of preserving, editing, and passing along the bits that served their purposes.

And the Romans were nothing, if not pragmatic.

The story of Jesus that they allowed to come forward is tailored to suit the Roman desire to preserve the Pax Romanus, the Roman Peace, and to inculcate the values of good citizenship—- that is, acquiescence to indentured servitude and slavery– among the conquered races.

The Jesus we have inherited is a watered-down and tamed version of the actual story, and central to His story, are facts that we are never, ever told.  Jesus lived in Nazareth all right, and so, he is called “a Nazarene”, but more importantly, he was also a Nazorean. More of the usual similar word deceits have been used to cover up this fact.

The Nazoreans were a populous sect inhabiting the Galilea area and standing as a buffer between the Samaritans to the North and the Temple Hebrews of the South. To put it mildly, Jesus came from the wrong side of the tracks, despite his bloodline to King David.

The Nazoreans as a group– to which John the Baptist also ...........

https://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2017/01/18/the-final-lamb-or-stop-being-stupid-part-21/

Source >>>   The Final Lamb, Or, Stop Being Stupid Part 21

Posted on January 18, 2017   by David Robinson    
 

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New Testament is Word of God. Wrote by Holy Apostles who are Jews as Lord Jesus Christ himself.
In Old Testament are Jewish history. But God himself wrote 10 Commandments on the stone.

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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 04:48:16 PM »
Here are some paragraphs from the middle of above article

Persistent rumors of “Angelic weapons” in the area inhabited by the Nazoreans provided the impetus for this action. It was said that the remaining Nazoreans were the guardians of weapons that pre-dated the Flood of Noah, and that like the Ark of the Covenant, these weapons were of divine origin and surpassing power.

The Biblical references to Four Angels being “bound” in the same area and being released in the Latter Days gave credence to the claims and so from the days of Hitler’s search for the Aryans (Orions) to now, the Nazoreans have been hunted and tortured and decimated for their knowledge in the most systematic and ferocious genocide of modern times.

Russian efforts finally yielded pay dirt two years ago with the recovery of “Gabriel’s Hammer”.

This weapon dates from the Great Plasma War which occurred 32,000 years ago. Positioned in Antarctica it is able to punch down or pull up large sections of the Earth’s crust by as much as 400 vertical feet. Smaller models of the same technology can suspend or alter the laws of gravity—-handy for dropping missiles and airplanes out of the air or sinking battleships to the bottom of the sea.

Conventional warfare as it has existed on the planet is at an end, and the Russians hold the winning hand. They continue to scour Syria and loot Sirian (as in Sirius B) archeological sites for the remaining three “angels”. If there are any Nazoreans left on Earth, they are few and far between.

From these sobering ruminations, we must rouse ..................

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 04:55:06 PM »
Here are some paragraphs from the middle of above article

Persistent rumors of “Angelic weapons” in the area inhabited by the Nazoreans provided the impetus for this action. It was said that the remaining Nazoreans were the guardians of weapons that pre-dated the Flood of Noah, and that like the Ark of the Covenant, these weapons were of divine origin and surpassing power.

The Biblical references to Four Angels being “bound” in the same area and being released in the Latter Days gave credence to the claims and so from the days of Hitler’s search for the Aryans (Orions) to now, the Nazoreans have been hunted and tortured and decimated for their knowledge in the most systematic and ferocious genocide of modern times.

Russian efforts finally yielded pay dirt two years ago with the recovery of “Gabriel’s Hammer”.

This weapon dates from the Great Plasma War which occurred 32,000 years ago. Positioned in Antarctica it is able to punch down or pull up large sections of the Earth’s crust by as much as 400 vertical feet. Smaller models of the same technology can suspend or alter the laws of gravity—-handy for dropping missiles and airplanes out of the air or sinking battleships to the bottom of the sea.

Conventional warfare as it has existed on the planet is at an end, and the Russians hold the winning hand. They continue to scour Syria and loot Sirian (as in Sirius B) archeological sites for the remaining three “angels”. If there are any Nazoreans left on Earth, they are few and far between.

From these sobering ruminations, we must rouse ..................


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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 07:08:58 PM »
I'll bite...

Yes, reincarnation makes sense...complete sense to me (and yeah, I'm a "Christian").

Einstein believed that once an energy state has been created (our spirit) it does not just go away...

The original Christians believed in reincarnation, and it wasn't until the emperor Justinius (who tried to force the pope to declare belief in reincarnation an anathema (problem was, the pope believed in reincarnation and because he wouldn't budge he got thrown in prison), and failing that created his own political machine and rammed through plenty of anathemas) that the current prohibition in believing in reincarnation became a fact.

Either way, an evolving spirit working its way to "Godliness" makes far more sense than a 1 shot try at redemption.  At the end, those spirits found wanting will be extinguished, those found acceptable will progress on.

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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 07:45:46 PM »
I'll bite...

Yes, reincarnation makes sense...complete sense to me (and yeah, I'm a "Christian").

Einstein believed that once an energy state has been created (our spirit) it does not just go away...

The original Christians believed in reincarnation, and it wasn't until the emperor Justinius (who tried to force the pope to declare belief in reincarnation an anathema (problem was, the pope believed in reincarnation and because he wouldn't budge he got thrown in prison), and failing that created his own political machine and rammed through plenty of anathemas) that the current prohibition in believing in reincarnation became a fact.

Either way, an evolving spirit working its way to "Godliness" makes far more sense than a 1 shot try at redemption.  At the end, those spirits found wanting will be extinguished, those found acceptable will progress on.

@ Peerless.....GOOD POST......There have been thousands of proven cases of reincarnation

But when people say they went to heaven and came back it is just an unprovable statement......Maybe there is a heaven ...But the evidence is shaky at best...IMO

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 07:55:10 PM »
I'll bite...

Yes, reincarnation makes sense...complete sense to me (and yeah, I'm a "Christian").

Einstein believed that once an energy state has been created (our spirit) it does not just go away...

The original Christians believed in reincarnation, and it wasn't until the emperor Justinius (who tried to force the pope to declare belief in reincarnation an anathema (problem was, the pope believed in reincarnation and because he wouldn't budge he got thrown in prison), and failing that created his own political machine and rammed through plenty of anathemas) that the current prohibition in believing in reincarnation became a fact.

Either way, an evolving spirit working its way to "Godliness" makes far more sense than a 1 shot try at redemption.  At the end, those spirits found wanting will be extinguished, those found acceptable will progress on.

Thanks God that Byzantine Emperor Justinian the Great and bishops ban reincarnation on V Christian Council in 553. AD in Constantinople.  :) 

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith8068http://

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Re: Reincarnation – Does It Make Sense?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 08:26:06 AM »
Jesus asked, “Who Do People Say I Am?” No One Said He Was God.

The disciples answered that various people thought Jesus was someone 'come back from the dead,' such as John the Baptist, Elijah, Jeremiah, or another of the biblical prophets (Mt 16.14; Mk 8.28).

"Come back from he dead "= Reincarnated

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/kermitzarleyblog/2013/10/jesus-asked-who-do-people-say-i-am-no-one-said-he-was-god/

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 06:20:59 PM »
Thanks God that Byzantine Emperor Justinian the Great and bishops ban reincarnation on V Christian Council in 553. AD in Constantinople.  :) 

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith8068http://

Thanks God???  Really?  I in no way support an emperor and his whore (and that is what history indicates) wife controlling a faith.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-pope.htm

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2017, 07:07:06 PM »
Thanks God that Byzantine Emperor Justinian the Great and bishops ban reincarnation on V Christian Council in 553. AD in Constantinople.  :) 

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith8068http://

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