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Offline JT Coyoté

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Are you for real?

My take exactly, pac... Joe does a special report on the Nightly News at least once a week... Thursday this last week... he just got married for God's sake... Folks just invent crap out of nothing...

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turbulence and contention; have ever been found
incompatible with personal security or the rights of
property; and have in general been as short in their
lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

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My take exactly, pac... Joe does a special report on the Nightly News at least once a week... Thursday this last week... he just got married for God's sake... Folks just invent crap out of nothing...

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Is Joe in Austin or North Carolina ?

AJ said he let him go .....& gave him a generous going away present ....

So I imagine he is in North Carolina ...





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Infowars is not just Alex Jones, its a lot of other people.

And shock horror, people form cliques, fancy members of the opposite sex, and other such stuff. People fall in and out of love, and some personalties are going to clash. When you get more than one alpha male, the fur will fly.

You know not everything is some dark conspiracy.
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Infowars is not just Alex Jones, its a lot of other people.

And shock horror, people form cliques, fancy members of the opposite sex, and other such stuff. People fall in and out of love, and some personalties are going to clash. When you get more than one alpha male, the fur will fly.

You know not everything is some dark conspiracy.

@ EG.....Exactly ! .Thank you for that......AJ will be 42 years old on Feb. 11....
He has been around the block a few times....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio_host%29
We might never know the real story.....But the bottom line is Joe Biggs was "Let GO"....

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My take exactly, pac... Joe does a special report on the Nightly News at least once a week... Thursday this last week... he just got married for God's sake... Folks just invent crap out of nothing...

JTCoyoté

(On the nature of democracy) "...there is nothing
to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker
party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that
such democracies have ever been spectacles of
turbulence and contention; have ever been found
incompatible with personal security or the rights of
property; and have in general been as short in their
lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

~James Madison -- Federalist Paper #10


Well it was a little more than that. You can't just say whatever you want and then put IMHO behind it and then expect it to fly around here. And if I have to wear hip waders just to read your post, then I know most definitely it isn't going to pass the smell test. Rights have responsibilities. For the uninitiated Jesus is representative of Truth allegorically in the next passage.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ” ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law– a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.”
– (Mat 10:34-38)
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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Well it was a little more than that. You can't just say whatever you want and then put IMHO behind it and then expect it to fly around here. And if I have to wear hip waders just to read your post, then I know most definitely it isn't going to pass the smell test. Rights have responsibilities. For the uninitiated Jesus is representative of Truth allegorically in the next passage.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ” ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law– a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.”
– (Mat 10:34-38)

I don't understand your post, Pac... if it's in answer to mine... since the basis for my post you quoted, is what I know for sure.

Marlowe,

Alex will be 43 on 2/11/17,

And Biggs is still doing Current Reports on the Infowars Nightly News as of last Thursday's show... and I received a Tweet from him a week or so ago saying he had gotten married...

And it is a for sure fact that people will and do make crap up out of nothing, all the time...

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I don't understand your post, Pac... if it's in answer to mine... since the basis for my post you quoted, is what I know for sure.

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"All government without the consent of the
governed is the very definition of slavery."

~Jonathan Swift


I was just expanding upon my "Are You For Real" comment, and that it wasn't just spurred from the Joe Biggs quote. It was a culmination of other posts and threads that I have read from Marlowe.
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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I was just expanding upon my "Are You For Real" comment, and that it wasn't just spurred from the Joe Biggs quote. It was a culmination of other posts and threads that I have read from Marlowe.

Got it...(chuckle)...

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What amendment was the freedom of speech?



The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.


       
       









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Aj says he had a beer {or 3?} before he made this face book video...

Alex Jones Explains WHY Joe Biggs NO LONGER at InfoWars @rambobiggs Not Fired, Not Pizzagate

Published on Dec 9, 2016


Alex Jones used Facebook Mentions to address current rumors and explain the latest with Joe Biggs on December 9, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPQ3LOpcBOE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rWZ01Y5DA

Joe Biggs Explains Why He Quit Infowars & Alex Jones Responds (MIRRORED)


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I'm bored.

The whole Joe Biggs "story" is so fake - he ain’t even left since he is alt-right. :-)



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Got it...(chuckle)...

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"All socialism involves slavery."
~Herbert Spencer


The only thing I need to read your posts are possibly a Thesaurus and a few cross reference materials, like say The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, The Articles of Confederation, The Magna Carta among many others. :)
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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What amendment was the freedom of speech?



The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.


       
       

Marlowe,

First, much meaning is lost by way of loop-holing when Law is paraphrased rather than cited exactly... I'm certain you will agree.

The First Article of Amendment from the Bill of Rights of the Constitution:
 
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances."


Secondly, the painting you posted though quite historical, is not of the signing of the Constitution in September 1787, or the ratification of the Bill of Rights in December of 1791, but the signing of the Declaration of Independence in July of 1776.

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The only thing I need to read your posts are possibly a Thesaurus and a few cross reference materials, like say The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, The Articles of Confederation, The Magna Carta among many others. :)

Full marks, pac...(chuckle)... and yes, the Jones Biggs thing is a non starter.

Our Founding Fathers, the framers of our law spent decades in debate, much of it written and still accessible. They hashed out, and ultimately forged the most significant stand alone liberty based governmental structure ever attempted in the history of the world. The only caveat was that the people be schooled in its workings, remain moral, vigilant, and regularly participate in it's function. They understood with unerring clarity that if the people ever failed to participate, became laxed in their vigilance, lazy in their understanding, and amoral in their ways, tyranny would surely be the result.  They also knew that even if these conditions did manifest, there would still remain a large number of people, and at least a few States not completely stricken with the decadent condition.  It was for this contingency that they codified two "righters of all wrongs" in the most prominent place at the very end of the organic law they had crafted; namely, the Ninth and Tenth Articles of The Bill of Rights.

JTCoyoté

   "Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday
the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting
the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse
of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added:
And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best
ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the
following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments
to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by
three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of
the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States
of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States,
pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.
~Preamble to the Bill of Rights, the first 10 Amendments, added to
and fully ratified with the original Constitution on Dec. 15, 1791


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Silly lit'l thread.  Ripley's Believe it or not.  ::)
"Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
"Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
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Silly lit'l thread.  Ripley's Believe it or not.  ::)

In the beginning perhaps... page 2 has morphed the OP declared free speech aspect of this thread into a bit of education, a tutorial of sorts... :chuckle:

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"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for
the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial
entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state;
but the individuals’ rights to live and own property are natural
rights for the enjoyment of which an excise cannot be imposed."

~Redfield v. Fisher. 292 P. 819, Oregon Supreme Court

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In the beginning perhaps... page 2 has morphed the free speech aspect of the thread into a bit of education, a tutorial of sorts... :chuckle:

JTCoyoté

"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for
the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial
entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state;
but the individuals’ rights to live and own property are natural
rights for the enjoyment of which an excise cannot be imposed."

~Redfield v. Fisher. 292 P. 819, Oregon Supreme Court


Well thank goodness we got a REAL history teacher on page 2.  ;)
"Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
"Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
"People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."

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In the beginning perhaps... page 2 has morphed the OP declared free speech aspect of this thread into a bit of education, a tutorial of sorts... :chuckle:

JTCoyoté

"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for
the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial
entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state;
but the individuals’ rights to live and own property are natural
rights for the enjoyment of which an excise cannot be imposed."

~Redfield v. Fisher. 292 P. 819, Oregon Supreme Court



Your quote at the end is what got me. Free Speech springs forth from Natural Law, but most People don't even understand what Natural Law is. Marlowe I suggest you watch this seminar and find out who and what you hurt when you say or spread things that maybe less then truthful.

Mark Passio Natural Law Seminar

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnzMmEt4pIb985hO8sonHThhauAyn_doB
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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Bribed Republican Politicians, Nuclear Bombs Defused In New York, CIA vs NSA Gun Battle, & More – January 4, 2017

https://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2017/01/06/kent-dunn-intel-update-list-of-bribed-republican-politicians-nuclear-bombs-defused-in-new-york-cia-vs-nsa-gun-battle-more-january-4-2017/

Jeb Bush

Carly Fiorina

John Kasich

John McCain

Lindsey Graham

Paul Ryan

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 Kent Dunn says that Paul Ryan is turning against Trump including personally attacking Assange saying that Assange is ‘a sycophant for Russia’ .  Most people at this point in time know that it was the White Hats in the CIA and NSA that was handing off the information to a former English Ambassador, named Craig Murray.  Ambassador Craig Murray publicly came out in December 2016 and testified that it was people from inside the United States that gave him Hillary Clinton’s emails and declared it was not Russia.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zom7IAKa_dw

1:25 AM in Israel. 1/1/2017 ALERT WARNING UFO? OR E.T. Friend or foe?

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Woman Caught With Purloined Prophylactics
Cops: Suspect stole 31 boxes of Trojan condoms from market



JANUARY 12--An Illinois woman is jailed on a felony theft charge after she was caught stealing 31 boxes of Trojan condoms from a supermarket, according to cops who said that the combined price of the purloined prophylactics exceeded $300.

According to court records, Shaearion Davis, 25, was arrested Tuesday afternoon following the condom heist at a Schnucks market in Swansea, an Illinois community about 15 miles east of St. Louis, Missouri.

Supermarket employees dialed 911 after they saw Davis swiping the condoms (and they tailed her after she left Schnucks). When Davis spotted the arriving cops, she ditched the Trojans and sought to flee. But the East St. Louis resident was quickly apprehended.

Davis, seen above, was charged with felony retail theft. After refusing to allow jail personnel to photograph and fingerprint her, Davis was charged with obstructing a police officer, a misdemeanor.

Locked up in lieu of $50,000 bond, Davis--who has entered a not guilty plea--is scheduled for a January 20 preliminary hearing. Davis’s rap sheet includes prior theft convictions and several outstanding arrest warrants.

Court records do not indicate whether Davis intended the condoms for resale or personal use.

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/woman-jailed-in-trojan-heist-649830
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Alex  Jones will have seat near Trump at the inauguration

Watch first 40 seconds 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvOixoC81g&feature=em-uploademail

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The Trumpocalypse effect...
Liberal take refuge in bunker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUgA-InGLec&feature=em-uploademail

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Keith Olbermann Sinks Deeper Into Anti-Trump Insanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04wRWFwHeM

Published on Jan 27, 2017


Keith Olbermann calls on President Trump to resign, saying he's not of sound mind. His Trump Derangement Syndrome continues to get worse. The disgraced former ESPN sportscaster and former MSNBC host is now ranting and raving on a YouTube channel. Media analyst Mark Dice has the story.




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Keith Olbermann Sinks Deeper Into Anti-Trump Insanity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04wRWFwHeM

Anything to say there's war with Russia.  Now, to cover up their boo boos since there was no war, it's being said we lost the war with Russia.  What a laugh!

I wish Putin would come out with some statements on it.

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2 minute video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48w7d-xSr_A

It has been established that persons who have recently died have been returning to life and protesting President Trump. A widespread investigation of reports from funeral homes, morgues & hospitals as concluded that the unburied dead are coming back to life and seeking to stop Trump from Making America Great Again. It's hard for us here to believe what we're reporting to you, but it does seem to be a fact.

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4Chan FBI Anon claims to have insider information for a Press Conference tomorrow by President Trump on information of Extraterrestrial Life

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/109830044

Insider information.

On Monday January 30th, President Trump will make a announcement via live video from the Oval Office to the World that the United States of American has known, and covered up the existence of Extraterrestrial Life and advanced space and energy technology. These things have been hidden from the public, so that companies around the World can continue to line their own pockets at costs that he could not turn a blind eye to. He wants to remove the corrupted individuals from having control over the entire human population, and at his age, he could no longer sleep soundly at night knowing so many people around the World are suffering without clean water, and electricity, while others get richer.

President Trump has known about the technologies for a number of years, even from stories from his Uncle about Tesla's work.

He will then continue on to explain that we have had technology that has been suppressed and hidden by secret higher ups within departments of US Government. Over the next few weeks the US Government will be out sourcing these technologies to SpaceX (Space Exploration Technologies Corp) who is owned and operated by Elon Musk, who has already placed a winning bid on the space tech. Elon is currently working close with President Trump on other matters also. Other unreleased technologies, such as "Free Energy Tech" will be distributed through other various companies for further development.

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FBI Insider: Pizzagate Pedophile Ring Arrests Are Now Imminent

Today, 01:04 PM


http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1873-fbi-insider-pizzagate-pedophile-ring-arrests-are-now-imminent



FBI Insider: Pizzagate Pedophile Ring Arrests Are Now Imminent 30 politicians & 40 others in DC, VA & NYC to be arrested

 Clinton Campaign Chair, John Podesta, has been at the center of the Pizzagate scandal An FBI whistleblower has confirmed that 30 politicians and 40 other individuals are to be arrested in Washington D.C., Virginia, and New York City in connection with the Pizzagate pedophile ring.

The insider at the Federal Bureau of Investigation claims that the FBI has just finished(3 pm 2/2/17) submitting paperwork to the Department of Justice in preparations for the arrests which will begin as soon as Jeff Sessions assumes his role as Attorney General.
   
 

FBI Insider: Pizzagate Pedophile Ring Arrests Are Now Imminent | Neon Nettle

http://www.neonnettle.com

Neon Nettle - FBI Insider: Pizzagate Pedophile Ring Arrests Are Now Imminent - 30 politicians & 40 others in DC, VA & NYC to be arrested
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http://www.neonnettle.com/videos/540-pizzagate-the-video-that-will-change-everything-you-thought-you-knew


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Trump's Protest Based Stimulus Plan

Very short video

Published on Feb 3, 2017


The Trump administration is working hard to make America great again, by bringing jobs and opportunity back to our shores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeO4rAoA8ZQ

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“Hillary Caught Fleeing the Country to Avoid Jail”- for Bahrain to avoid Extradition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GD_Y0XwUa4&feature=em-uploademail