You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary

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You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary
« on: November 15, 2016, 10:39:18 AM »
Just like 2012, I stayed home in disgust last Tuesday.

But that doesn't mean I was silent.

In the months leading up to election day, my message to undecided voters was not to vote for Trump -- or anyone else, for that matter.

It was simply this: if you choose to vote at all, vote for whomever you want -- as long as it's not Hillary.



Am I happy Trump won? No.

I'm merely relieved that Hildabeest -- and her virtue-signaling, insult-spewing, tantrum-throwing supporters -- lost.
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Actually, “Nobody” Won the 2016 Presidential Election
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 10:49:44 AM »
It would seem I'm in very good company...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/actually-nobody-won-the-2016-presidential-election-and-the-i-voted-for-nobody-group-was-a-landslide/5556857

Actually, “Nobody” Won the 2016 Presidential Election — and the “I Voted for Nobody” Group Was a Landslide

By Nick Bernabe
Global Research, November 14, 2016
Anti-Media 11 November 2016

“Nobody for President, that’s my campaign slogan,” Nick Cannon asserted in “Too Broke to Vote,” his viral criticism of the American electoral process from March of this year. Now, it turns out nobody for president won the 2016 election in a landslide.

According to new voter turnout statistics from the 2016 election, 47 percent of Americans voted for nobody, far outweighing the votes cast for Trump (25.5 percent) and Hillary (25.6 percent) by eligible voters.



And the “I voted for nobody” group is actually much larger than the 47 percent reported because that number only includes eligible voters. How many millions of Americans under the legal voting age — not to mention the countless millions who have lost their voting rights — voted for nobody, as well? Factoring in those individuals, around 193 million people did not vote for Trump or Clinton. That’s nearly two-thirds of the population of the United States.

Nobody also seemingly won the presidential primaries, with only 9 percent of Americans casting their votes for either Trump or Clinton.



So when does nobody take office? Nobody won the majority of votes in the primaries or the general election, and the two main candidates who were running didn’t “win” the popular vote — they simply slightly outcompeted each other considering neither garnered over 50 percent of the eligible voters’ ballots.

That’s where the real debate begins.

As I wrote back in August when the primary voter turnout rates came in, one could argue that Trump (and Obama) do not have a legitimate mandate to rule over the people of the United States. Trump did not win the majority of Americans’ votes — not even close.

When all Americans are included, Trump only garnered the votes of about 19 percent of us. This means the United States will be ruled over by a small minority of voters who elected someone to continually impose their political positions on the other 81 percent of us.

Of course, as is the case with Democrats looking to assign blame for Hillary’s loss, pundits and political pontificators argue the people who didn’t vote have no right to complain about the outcome. After all, a non-vote or a vote for a third-party candidate was, in actuality, a vote for Trump. But that logic is flawed. The majority of Americans don’t vote anymore because the political system no longer represents them. We’ve been disenfranchised by decades of corrupt, unrepresentative politicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jnf9GILjFM (George Carlin - if you vote you have no right to complain)

The United States, according to a highly-cited academic study, is effectively an oligarchy “elected” by a minority of voters ruled by a smaller minority of disliked politicians who represent an even smaller minority of billionaires and special interests. You know it, I know it, hell, even former U.S. President Jimmy Carter knows it. The majority of Americans voted for nobody not because they don’t care or because they are apathetic — they voted no confidence in a political system that forgot about them a long time ago.
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Re: You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 11:51:55 AM »
Vote fraud played a big role in the non-turnout. It's still not fixed. Fractionalized software is still in the machines. AFAIK a couple of states are refusing public access to the election details.

My plan was to stay home out of protest. But, at the last minute, I decided to go to the polls because I figured no ballot=no evidence for recount.

This is the one topic my sitting congressmen refused to address when I wrote them.
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Opposing The Democratic Establishment Doesn’t Make Someone Pro-Trump!
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 12:08:27 AM »
http://www.newslogue.com/debate/189

Opposing The Democratic Establishment Doesn’t Make Someone Pro-Trump, You Binary Dimwits

Caitlin Johnstone
NEWSLOGUE
December 12, 2016

If one more low-information, high-confidence Hillary voter shows up on my page calling me a Trump supporter, I’m going to flip out and convert my Newslogue account into a smutty anime fan fiction blog and change my username to Kitty Kuddles. This obnoxious “either you’re with us or you're with the enemy” binary attitude that Democratic party loyalists have been bullying people with has got to stop, because it’s killing political discourse. I’ve spoken with countless people who feel like they can’t publicly say anything at all that runs counter to the liberal media storyline, like the insane “fake news” slogan or all the frantic red-baiting Russia hate, because they don’t want to be accused of supporting Trump and called a white supremacist Republitard by their pro-establishment liberal acquaintances in their various social circles.

I am now convinced that it is generally not an innocent mistake when they do this. In reality, the idea that criticizing the Democratic establishment makes you a Trump supporter is just one more of the many, many ways that these obnoxious bullies try to cajole, gaslight and intimidate progressives into sitting down and shutting up. No progressive is going to enjoy being told that they support a Republican demagogue, and pro-establishment liberals know if they say that to us with enough authority and conviction it can make us so uncomfortable we go silent. If that still doesn’t work, they call us “privileged”, they call us white supremacists, they call us fascists, they call us Nazis. It’s not hard to make a sensitive lefty’s knees buckle with words like that.

So they make us shut up, and they get to keep things exactly as they are. The neoliberal oligarchs get to keep raking in the cash with their ecocidal warmongering exploitation, and the rank-and-file establishment loyalists don’t have to deal with the psychological confrontation of admitting that they’ve been completely wrong about everything this whole time. Everyone wins except planet Earth and everyone who lives on it.

It’s painful watching my progressive brothers and sisters trying to deal with this dynamic, struggling to speak their truth while simultaneously trying to avoid the wrath of the Podesta Police. Progressive voices I respect and admire often go far out of their way to spend exactly half their posts, videos and articles decrying Trump’s cabinet picks or whatever (because CNN liberals are apparently still shocked that a Republican president elect is making Republican cabinet decisions) just so they can feel safe enough to timidly suggest that maybe Elizabeth Warren could have said something about Standing Rock back when people were getting assaulted and hospitalized by militarized police forces.

“See?” they seem to be saying. “I’m fighting that guy you hate too! Can I please have permission to say something about Donna Brazile now?”

We shouldn’t have to do that. We shouldn’t have to placate and appease a bunch of bullies who just don’t want to be inconvenienced by facing the reality of what their party has become. Plenty of progressives like me recognize that Obama is still the big man in charge until January 20th, and see that the major obstacle to real progressive change is not the Republicans but the powerful Democrats who refuse to stop kowtowing to the corporatist plutocrats and give the Republicans a real fight. We’re allowed to focus on that without being accosted by a bunch of armchair liberals telling us that means we hate Mexicans.

Even my last article about how crazy it is to believe what the CIA says because they’re all a bunch of lying thugs elicited a few accusations of Trump support, and it says nothing whatsoever in support of Trump. It’s just a very common sense attitude to have about a group of torturers, assassins and psy-ops manipulators, but I still had some guy make the comment “The Bernie or Bust people are on board with Trump now? Figures.”

No, it doesn’t work that way. Saying the CIA are liars doesn’t mean I’m “on board with Trump” any more than saying there’s no Santa Clause means I want to open a joint checking account with the Easter Bunny. It’s just a normal thing that grown adults with fully-formed brains tend to say.

The government is lying to us and the legacy media is helping them, and that isn’t okay, and we do get to say so. If anyone tries to bully and manipulate us into falling in line, they deserve to be opposed loudly and aggressively.

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Poor Liberals, Nobody to Blame But Themselves
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2017, 07:42:54 AM »
Now that the holiday season is finally over, I think it's reasonable to assume that -- as Inauguration Day grows nearer -- Hillary's army of insult-spewing tantrum-throwers will return with a vengeance.

In light of this I thought I'd pick up where I left off with the previous article I posted:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/11/poor-liberals-nobody-to-blame-but-themselves/

Poor Liberals, Nobody to Blame But Themselves

by DAVID PENNER
CounterPunch
November 11, 2016

Poor liberals, for years you have toiled in vain for the betterment of humanity.  Martyring yourselves for the greater good, you have attained a new level of sophistication and moral superiority, the likes of which we may never see again. It makes me weep such tears of bitterest woe, seeing your saintly queen of benevolence, fail to be anointed Queen Mass Murderer of The Planet Earth.

Every four years you come out of hibernation, and run about the country like so many chickens with their heads cut off, ranting and raving about how we all have to vote for the Democratic presidential candidate, or else the world will come to an end. We will be enslaved to a redneck, who dropped out of high school and works in a gas station, or a KKK guy – or worse!

In actuality, the real problem is that when you look in the mirror, you see an educated person, a literate person, an articulate person. You see someone who is wise, cultured, unequivocally left wing, logical, and above all rational.  This person you are looking at does not exist. This person does not exist, any more than if I were to look in the mirror, and believe I was looking at a hippopotamus or a water buffalo.

This person might have existed in 1963, but this person, who had ideals, who genuinely stood against imperialism and militarism, and who truly cared about education and unions, is no more. For you have degenerated into such a mindless piece of degenerate insouciant flotsam, that I cannot help but look upon thy face with horror.

Let’s take a brief look at some of the wondrous things American liberals, led by Hillary and Obama, these two magnificent whoring knaves of oligarchy, have accomplished over the past eight years.

You bombed Libya off the face of the earth, thereby destroying not only a country which boasted the highest standard of living in Africa, but which also led to the destabilization of the entire region, when your beloved freedom fighter barbarians raided the government military stockpiles.

You overthrew the democratically elected government of Viktor Yanukovych, putting a gang of Banderite ultranationalists and Neo-Nazis in power, who immediately moved to strip the Russian language of its official status, and who let loose a horrific orgy of violence against the people of the Donbass. Victoria Nuland, a neocon gal pal of Saint Hillary, and one of the principal architects of this monstrous illegal coup, is known to all Russians, yet you probably never heard of her. (This is because the only thing that matters to you is getting a Democrat into the Oval Office.  What they actually do once they get there is apparently of no interest to you whatsoever.)

You sent thousands of troops to Afghanistan, and are no closer to defeating the Taliban, than you were at the beginning of Obama’s first term in office.

And just a few months ago, Saints Obama and Hillary signed off on an arms deal worth more than 115 billion dollars with Saudi Arabia, one of the most authoritarian and reactionary regimes on earth. Undoubtedly, they will use these weapons to arm jihadist barbarians in other countries, as well as genocide the people of Yemen – yet another liberal slaughterhouse you have insouciantly and mindlessly slept through. Undoubtedly, women’s rights have improved dramatically there, as you can’t marry an underage girl after her village was relentlessly bombed with American weapons, and she is presently dead.

And then there are the countless drone massacres in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. Perhaps blowing up soccer games and wedding parties, has helped these people to embrace the wonders of multiculturalism and diversity? And let’s not forget the fascist coup in Honduras, and a far right coup in Brazil: these acts of barbarism also bear the mark of the liberal, the Imaginary Leftist, the most incorrigible knave in human history.

And this brings us to perhaps your most glorious humanitarian intervention of all: arming and funding bloodthirsty jihadi criminal gangs, assigned with the task of  overthrowing the Assad regime. And with the blessing of the American liberal, they have embarked on a crusade to also exterminate Syrian civilization in the process. Please liberals, do not make me vomit onto my computer, by talking about all the suffering children in Aleppo. The real barbarians who have made these children suffer, have been running the White House for the past eight years, and it was you who put them there in the first place.

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"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

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HILLARY VOTERS: STOP CALLING EVERYONE A NAZI AND READ WIKILEAKS
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2017, 08:49:01 AM »
http://www.inquisitr.com/3704461/hillary-voters-owe-it-to-america-to-stop-calling-everyone-a-nazi-and-start-reading-wikileaks/

HILLARY VOTERS OWE IT TO AMERICA TO STOP CALLING EVERYONE A NAZI AND READ WIKILEAKS

by Caitlin Johnstone
Inquisitr.com
November 11, 2016

My Facebook news feed is somehow still full of people trying to blame Trump’s election on a nationwide collusion of Klan members and male supremacists and on the progressives who refused to fall in line and support Hillary Clinton. This insane adamant refusal to confront the reality of what’s happening in this country will kill the Democratic party if it doesn’t change drastically.

If you still believe that Donald Trump was elected because of racism, it is because you have remained willfully ignorant of what has been happening in your country. If you still believe that Trump’s election is indicative of a neo-fascist uprising in America, it is because you have not ventured outside of your self-reinforcing validation loop of fellow Clinton voters and your corporate media echo chamber. If you still, days later, think that Hillary Clinton’s loss is the fault of anyone other than Hillary Clinton, it’s because you haven’t been reading WikiLeaks.

Letter: It’s ignorant to vote for Hillary Clinton without reading WikiLeaks https://t.co/PpJjt8Mf4m pic.twitter.com/r3pEaklcSy

— Denver Post Opinion (@denveropinion) November 2, 2016


This cannot continue. If the progressive revolution has any hope of mounting a meaningful counteroffensive at any time in the future, the people who supported Hillary Clinton need to stop calling everyone a Nazi long enough to do some actual research into the facts behind where they went wrong in 2016, humble themselves, and admit that they have been completely wrong about everything.

I’m not expecting them to admit it out loud, and I’m not expecting it to happen right away; people will need time to process whatever intense emotions are still ripping through their systems. But at some point, liberals are going to have to put down the bullhorn, stop blaming all their colossal blunders on everyone else, and start getting clear on the facts about the nation they call home and the candidate they voted for. That’s the only way we can begin moving this thing in a healthy direction.

Just so we’re clear, Democrats don’t get to blame the WikiLeaks documents on a subversive Kremlin conspiracy anymore. Julian Assange has confirmed that he didn’t receive the documents from Russia, there will be no more echo-chamber red-baiting now that we’ll be getting a president who has no interest in a conflict with Russia, and the concocted “blame Putin for everything” schtick has already faded into obsolescence now that it has no more place or relevance. It’s time to take accountability for your own understanding of what has been happening in your country’s government and start doing some real research.

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"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

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Democrats Are Out Of Touch, Oblivious
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2017, 08:49:41 AM »
http://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-democrats-are-out-of-touch-oblivious-20161125-10-story.html

Democrats Are Out Of Touch, Oblivious

By Marc A. Thiessen
The Hartford Courant
November 27, 2016

Hey, Democrats, want help to rally the country around Donald Trump? Here's a great idea: Have a crowd of wealthy, out-of-touch Manhattan liberals (who can afford $849 tickets to "Hamilton") boo Vice President-elect Mike Pence while the cast of the Broadway show lectures him on diversity.

The Democratic Party's alienation from the rest of America was on full display at the Richard Rodgers Theatre a week ago. And the left seems completely oblivious to how ridiculous it looks to the rest of the United States.

Professors at Yale and Columbia universities and other elite schools postponed exams and canceled classes for students who could not deal with the election results. Kids in Washington, D.C., schools cut class with tacit approval from administrators to march in protest of the results of a free and fair election. School officials in suburban D.C. offered grief counselors to "help students process any concerns or feelings they have about the election." (Funny, I don't recall anyone canceling exams or offering my kids grief counselors when Barack Obama was elected.)

People in the American heartland see all this, and they shake their heads in disgust. Today's Democrats have become a party of coastal elites completely disconnected from the rest of America.

Doubt it? Take a look at a county-by-county map of the 2016 presidential election. You can drive some 3,000 miles across the entire continental United States — from sea to shining sea — without driving through a single county that voted for Hillary Clinton.

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"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-bourdain-slams-privileged-liberals-for-utter-contempt-of-working-class-151215285.html

Anthony Bourdain slams ‘privileged’ liberals for ‘utter contempt’ of working class

Caitlin Dickson
Yahoo! News
December 30, 2016

Celebrity chef and self-described “privileged Eastern liberal” Anthony Bourdain slammed his fellow leftist elites this week, arguing that their disdain for working-class Americans helped create “the upswell of rage and contempt” that propelled Donald Trump to the presidency.

“The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the upswell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now,” Bourdain said in an interview with Reason magazine.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in gun-country, God-fearing America,” Bourdain continued. “There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by and take care of themselves and the people they love. When we deny them their basic humanity and legitimacy of their views, however different they may be than ours, when we mock them at every turn and treat them with contempt, we do no one any good.”

A professional chef turned author turned television personality, Bourdain has spent the last decade-plus traveling throughout the United States and the world as the host of his own culinary and cultural TV shows, first at the Food Network and more recently, at CNN.

Bourdain, who is a New York City native and an outspoken critic of the president-elect, said he thinks “the rise of authoritarianism” is a “global trend and one that should be of concern to everyone.” Still, he argued, the belittling or dismissive attitudes of his peers toward Trump’s supporters is counterproductive.

“The self-congratulatory tone of the privileged left — just repeating and repeating and repeating the outrages of the opposition — this does not win hearts and minds,” Bourdain said. “It doesn’t change anyone’s opinions. It only solidifies them and makes things worse for all of us.”

He added,

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"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

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Re: You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 10:29:53 AM »
Is Liberalism a Mental Illness?

https://rightamerican.wordpress.com/scientists-find-%e2%80%98liberal-gene%e2%80%99/is-liberalism-a-mental-illness/

A prominent psychiatrist, Dr. Lyle Rossiter published a book, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.

The Liberal Mind
The Liberal Mind

Dr. Rossiter is a board-certified clinical psychiatrist who has been diagnosing and treating mental disorders for more than 35 years, and has examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. According to WND, he is also a man who has lived “a life virtually free of activism and links to ‘the vast right-wing conspiracy.’

Dr. Rossiter describes liberals as having “strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded.”

He compares liberals to “spoiled, angry children,” who are rebelling against “the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”

An excerpt from his book

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Re: You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2017, 12:08:16 PM »
Is Liberalism a Mental Illness?

https://rightamerican.wordpress.com/scientists-find-%e2%80%98liberal-gene%e2%80%99/is-liberalism-a-mental-illness/

A prominent psychiatrist, Dr. Lyle Rossiter published a book, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.

The Liberal Mind
The Liberal Mind

Dr. Rossiter is a board-certified clinical psychiatrist who has been diagnosing and treating mental disorders for more than 35 years, and has examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. According to WND, he is also a man who has lived “a life virtually free of activism and links to ‘the vast right-wing conspiracy.’

Dr. Rossiter describes liberals as having “strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded.”

He compares liberals to “spoiled, angry children,” who are rebelling against “the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”

An excerpt from his book


Good question. If antisemitism is Mental illness maybe Liberalism is mental illness also.  ???

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Re: You didn't have to be pro-Trump to be anti-Hillary
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2017, 03:36:29 PM »
Good question. If antisemitism is Mental illness maybe Liberalism is mental illness also.  ???

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These people suffer from a systematic learned inducement, an environmental neural/psycological bombardment that surfaces as arrested maturation and worse.

Liberalness, is not an illness, what's being blamed on it as previously described namely spoiled childishness in adults is by design created to promote "acting out" which is now showing us the programming these people have for years been receiving. This programming, brainwashing if you will, is the illness, albeit manufactured...

Antisemitism is not mental illness nor is liberalism... Acting out violently beyond the realm of reason in the name of your hate, prejudice, or political view... IS.

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