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ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« on: November 10, 2016, 06:44:32 PM »
SUMMARY: They may be trying to steal Arizona and Michigan, and then use special powers to flip 9 electoral votes away from Trump. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY HAVE REFUSED TO MAKE THEIR TOTALS OFFICIAL. THIS IS NOT OVER YET.

Trump won Arizona. Why has it not been made official? Trump won Michigan. Why has it not been made official? They are calling the counts "unofficial," WHY? This could be the answer:

http://82.221.129.208/basepagew5.html

Michigan is shown 48% Trump, 47% Clinton:

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+electoral&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=trump+electoral+michigan&eob=enn/p/mi/0/0///////////

Arizona is 50/45 and looks solid, but apparently they haven't declared yet:

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+electoral+arizona&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#eob=enn/p/az/0/0///////////

Michigan.

Here's the NYTimes website on Michigan:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president/michigan

Here's the Detroit Free Press, at about noon today.  It says the numbers are "unofficial":

With seven critical Genessee County precincts now reporting results, Donald Trump appears to have won Michigan by 13,225 votes -- a margin of less than three-tenths of a percent --  out of more some 4.8 million cast, according to unofficial results posted late this morning by the state.

Trump held a 12,488-vote lead over Hillary Clinton through the morning. But with all 83 Michigan counties reporting, Trump won 2,277,636 and Clinton 2,264,361. Trump's margin of victory was exceedingly close: He won 47.6% compared to 47.33% for Clinton, according to state totals updated at 11:30 a.m. today.

The Associated Press has not yet called the race.

Those numbers include Wayne County, where Clinton won 517,022 votes compared to Trump's 228,313, numbers provided to the Free Press by the Wayne County Clerk's office show.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2016, 08:08:57 AM »
From Newsweek, today, 11-11:

Election Could Still Result In Trump-Clinton Tie: Analyst

Updated | As of Thursday, three states remain electoral toss-ups, according to Associated Press projections: New Hampshire, Michigan and Arizona. If Hillary Clinton wins the combined 31 electoral votes from those states, she will still be short of Donald Trump’s 279 votes, more than the 270 needed to win the presidency.

However, AP analyst Michael McDonald, who teaches political science at the University of Florida and runs the United States Elections Project, an election statistics website, says he is skeptical that Trump won Wisconsin, as the AP projected. If that state flips for Clinton and she wins the other toss-up states, she and Trump could be in a tie at 269 votes each.

From WhatReallyHappened.com

I am sticking this to the top of the page. MAKE THIS GO VIRAL!

This is Hillary's plan to steal the White House!

Office of the Secretary of State of Arizona
DON'T CALL - JUST OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED FOR TRUMP!

Office of the Secretary of State of New Hampshire
603-271-3246

Office of the Secretary of State of Michigan
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Today's Veteran's Day, offices will probably be closed.  Maybe things will change over the weekend, but if they don't I plan to call on Monday.  New Hampshire and Michigan need to declare their votes.

Anybody reading this should call, or we could have to read about what Madam President did every day.




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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2016, 08:10:55 AM »
Fox news just announced Trump won Arizona

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2016, 09:14:34 AM »

Just taking a little too long to fix it hmmm?

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 09:23:21 AM »
Seems possible according to Fox News there was only a 2% difference in the totals

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 10:08:02 AM »
This was predicted by Clif High of Webbots.......IT WON'T WORK !

watch first 2 minutes if interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC85wkVFgh4&feature=youtu.be

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 10:21:27 AM »
Fox news just announced Trump won Arizona

Which means it's a done deal.

Hildebeest lost.

So her infantile supporters can go back to throwing their screeching, feet-stomping, insult-spewing hissy fit.

http://www.infowars.com/video-the-truth-about-the-trump-protests/

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2016, 10:39:06 AM »
The Newsweek article speaks of Florida.  All I know is Debbie Wasserman Schultz left as head of the DNC and returned to her home district in Florida.  She's the congresswoman from the Broward County area.  150,000 votes were then opened and "counted" without any oversight.  If Florida comes back into play, then things could change.

All of the results need to be certified, and until Michigan does that, the election's not settled.

But I think that was the old Plan B.  Plan A was to cheat the win outright, Plan B to do a stealth attack through the back door of the electoral college, Plan C assassination.  Trump should watch his back if Beastie Girl can't steal the thing.  After all, Obama said that Trump would never be president.  Trump and Pence shouldn't travel together for a while.  If they both died, then Obama might name Clinton his successor, "for the good of the nation."

EDIT -  The NYTimes election map.  Arizona's solid red now.  New Hampshire and Michigan are still not declared.  New Hampshire has 100% of the vote in and Clinton won it, Michigan has 100% of the vote in and Trump won it.  But they're still in the "leaning" category:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president

My concern is that Michigan, a union workers' state, is being bribed by the Democrats.  A billion dollars in a couple of Swiss bank accounts, and Clinton could suddenly turn up with the 15,000 votes she needs to win.  They were lost or mis-counted.  OR, Wasserman Schultz's 150,000 votes in Florida suddenly shift to Clinton, and that gives her Florida.

This thing's not over.  This snake has to be stomped on AND decapitated.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2016, 10:44:05 AM »


   I'm not buying any of this BS.

   GAME OVER.

   ALL THESE JERKS HAVE LEFT IS------SOUR GRAPES.

   THE ONLY THING LEFT IS TO PUT ANKLE BRACELETS ON BILL AND HILL.  HILLDOG COULD ALSO USE A DOG COLLAR.
I'M A DEPLORABLE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP.  MAY GOD BLESS HIM AND KEEP HIM SAFE.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2016, 12:46:58 PM »
The Times map is still not showing Michigan as settled.

I tried to call the Michigan Sec of State's office, but they're closed.  Recording said they'd be open tomorrow, Nov 12.  I plan to mention the Times map and the fact that Michigan isn't showing up as settled.  100% of the vote's been counted, so why the delay?

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 06:09:19 PM »
Scott Adams, the man who created the "Dilbert" comic strip, predicted Trump's victory for a long time.  Said he had the hypnotic/oratory skills to beat all the others.  On his blog he talks about the election and likens it to a movie:

Act 1: The hero’s life abruptly changes.
Act 2: The hero encounters and solves one problem after another, in an entertaining fashion.
Act 3: The hero faces a seemingly insurmountable problem.
Finale: Against all odds, the hero succeeds.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152955248046/i-answer-your-questions-about-predicting-president

I agree.  Trump went through all of these stages.  The  election was like a movie.

But something that's popular in movies right now is the fake ending.  You think the bad guy's dead, then he pops again for one more ass kicking.

A good example of this is from the movie Alien, 1979 (I think).  Sigourney Weaver has just escaped the ship and blown up the monster with it.  She gets to the escape pod and strips out of her uniform, then she discovers that the monster's in the pod with her.  She has to fight it one more time.

If the election follows current practices in movie plotting, then Trump has one more confrontation with the monster.  It would be like we're all watching Weaver in her bikini panties right now, blissfully unaware that the monster's resting up for another go.



But if Michigan doesn't finalize, and Florida flips at the last second, we may have to face the monster again.  A clip of that below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mmbStFrAA

This last minute surprise would be in character for the underhanded Clintons.  It would also lead to Obama's desired riots.  I have trouble believing that these people will go peacefully into the night.  Obama's mentor Bill Ayers has always wanted race riots in America, and this would lead to riots.  Not race riots, but close enough for Ayers, I'm sure.

With Michigan nailed down, Clinton couldn't win even with a Florida flip.

End of rambling.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2016, 12:32:09 PM »
Woodhams would not speculate as to why media outlets have not yet called Michigan for Trump. “You would have to ask the media outlets that question.”

Similarly, Woodhams could not explain why Politico is currently reporting a few thousand more votes in the state than the Michigan Secretary of State website is reporting, with a slightly different margin for Trump (11,423 versus 13,107).

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/10/michigan-election-official-no-reason-believe-large-numbers-votes-will-found-change-trump-13000-vote-win/

I didn't call the Michigan Sec of State today, because I'm sure they're getting thousands of calls.  Or they wouldn't have put out the information in the above article.

Note that the spokesman refers to "media outlets" that are "calling" states for Trump.  The electoral map I linked to above is from the NY Times, a Clinton newspaper.  And people have used Associated Press as a reference for the electoral numbers.  The media supported Clinton all along, so this could be a continuation of that support--participation in a ruse that will give her an eleventh hour electoral victory.  I want to believe that this election is a done deal, that Trump won, but the credits can't roll until Hillary is blown out the airlock and burnt to a crisp.

Here's some info about the electoral college and their deadlines:

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2016, 10:31:31 PM »
Still no verification on Michigan, or New Hampshire.  The true election is Dec. 19, when the electoral college meets, so we shall see.  I don't think the Clintons have enough juice to swing a big sleight of hand now, flipping states at the last minute.  They have the pariah stench on them.  Nobody at the state level will risk helping them. 

So now, dumbfounded Clintonista toddlers around the country are pinning their hopes on electors switching from Trump to Clinton.  Good luck with that.  Some amusing stories on the topic:

The one scenario that could still get Hillary into the White House

For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won’t have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.

Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton’s 228.

According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.

However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.

There’s even a name for it: becoming a “faithless elector.”

...The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry’s running mate, John Edwards.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/

Clinton supporters petition to force Electoral College to vote for her December 19

Following Donald Trump’s win, Hillary Clinton’s supporters are not giving in – they have launched an online petition calling upon the Electoral College to vote for Clinton instead of Trump.

This Tuesday's vote in the US Presidential election determined the electors in the Electoral College. On December 19 these electors will in turn cast the votes to legally elect the US president. Their vote, however, is extremely unlikely to change the results, being a purely a ceremonial occasion.

Clinton’s supporters in their petition on change.org are not losing hope though – they are calling on the electors “to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for [former] Secretary Clinton.”

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On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay! We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why? Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic. Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President. Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College. But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result? SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE. There is no reason Trump should be President. "It's the 'People's Will'"

https://www.rt.com/news/366651-clinton-december-petition-president/

Get that?  It's the people's will to overturn the people's will.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 10:42:37 PM »


It seems that 5 States was all they could manage in the landslide.  The reality that I feel imho is that Trump took all the States.  But, the Democrats just couldn't have that --> even though they are ~already~ imploded.  Give it six months..  It was all they could do to salvage ~anything~ that the Democrats might still exist from.   But, hey, they are gone.. everyone knows it.  It's a heap of ashes.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2016, 11:18:35 PM »
Clif High of Webbots fame said Trump would win but TPTB would try to get HRC in the White House later on >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>BUT THEY WOULD FAIL. :)....Period /.Full Stop....


I have followed Webbots closely since 2009 & Clif says there may or may not be a nuclear war in March , 2017......and that the next 5 years would later be referred to as the "YEARS OF STRUGGLE"

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2016, 07:06:07 PM »
Two presidential electors encourage colleagues to sideline Trump

Bret Chiafolo, a Washington State elector who has already declared his opposition to Hillary Clinton, and Micheal Baca of Colorado have launched what they’ve dubbed “Moral Electors,” an attempt to persuade 37 of their Republican colleagues to bail on Trump — just enough to block Trump’s election and leave the final decision to the House of Representatives. They have the support of a third elector, Washington State’s Robert Satiacum.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/electoral-college-effort-stop-trump-231350

Yeah, good luck with this.  Don't bother contacting the electors in my area.  My county voted 86% Trump, and we're on the liberal end of the local political spectrum.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2016, 06:12:22 PM »
From the BBC:

Trump presidency: Where is the Michigan result?

Hillary Clinton has been declared the winner of New Hampshire six days after she lost the presidential election, but where's the Michigan result - the last of 50 US states to be called?

The Associated Press (AP) news agency says it will not declare an outcome in the Midwestern state while a recount remains possible.

The Trump campaign had until Monday to seek a recount in New Hampshire, but did not do so.

So AP called the result for Mrs Clinton by about 2,700 votes, less than 1% of the 732,000 ballots cast.

Michigan's unofficial results show Mr Trump winning by over 13,000 votes.

AP, which gathers voting data from state and local officials, said it would soon declare a result if neither campaign called for a recount....

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37945261

Also, I listened to an interview on the Common Sense Show.  Dave Hodges interviewed Mike Adams.  Took some notes (old habit).  Audio-only interview, about 54 minutes.  Notes are below.  At about 35 minutes they touch on the electoral issue:

http://www.naturalnews.com/056011_leftist_uprising_George_Soros_President_Trump.html

Also on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW2qZ2P-4lU&feature=youtu.be

NOTES:

Trump talking unity but he's making a list of conspirators, people who deserve prosecution.  Trump's people are probably talking to Obama's people, offering not to prosecute him if he stands aside on the Clintons.

Many people who were against Clinton would have faced punishment.  Clinton threatened the "alt-right" people.  She was serious.  Drudge, Savage, Hannity, Jones, etc.  Firing squads, who knows?

Left-wingers are sissies, have been raised that way, no backbone.  Have been living in a bubble, reinforcing ridiculous ideas.  Like thinking you can change your gender just by saying it's changed.  False reality.  And they're intolerant of opposing ideas.  Trump's victory will cause many of them to have mental breakdowns.

Riots are beginning.  Student stuff is nothing.  Leftist terrorists (Bill Ayers type people) will unleash coordinated terrorism soon.  MS 13 (drug cartel hitmen) captured at the borders, were held and then released into American society.  Globalists only win when there is chaos.  They held back on false flags running up to the election because they were convinced Trump would lose.  We had relative peace only because they misgauged.

Clinton rose to the top of her system because it's a system of corruption.  Trump's side won because left is lazy and stupid, so corrupt for so long that they forgot how to do things like win elections.  Intelligence (smart voters) on the other side defeated the complacency of the left.

Dems might have won with Sanders, but the Clinton Foundation bought off all of the Sanders machine.  Even Sanders got homes and such.  Globalists should have gone with him, might have won, he showed he was corruptible.

Clinton/liberal cabal is dark, dark.  Drug running, sex slaves, now pedophilia.  Info is still coming out on that.  Adams says maybe 100 DNC members will go to jail, pay fines, etc.  Trump will pursue these people hard but not discuss it.  As soon as Trump's people get into the DOJ it's over for the DNC and the Clintons.  Clintons go to jail.  So...the Clintons will try to assassinate Trump.

Hodges says he watched Pence announce the victory, and his body language wasn't that of a winner.  Should have been effusive, excited, but he was withdrawn.  Then when Trump came out, no connection between the two men.  Hodge's concern is that Pence is playing the GHW Bush role (tried to take over when Reagan was shot).  Pence is an insider globalist, like Bush was.

But at least Clinton was defeated, and either Trump or Pence will name the Supreme Court justices.  Trump's major jobs were to beat Clinton and make sure SCOTUS justices were appointed by a Republican president.

Will be great resistance from the Swamp as Trump tries to drain it.  Administrative people in Washington continue under whoever the president is, and they'll protect their interests.  Trump probably can't stop country from collapsing.  Too corrupt, too bankrupt. 

We're still susceptible to globalists using a cyberattack or grid attack and then blaming it on Russia.

(At about 35:00) Hedges says in his Maricopa county the votes haven't been certified, he wonders how widespread this is.  Says an informant told him an elector was offered $150,000 to switch vote.

If they flip the vote on Dec 19 (day the electoral college meets), civil war.

They agree that the protests are orchestrated by George Soros.  "Globalists" are not a nebulous group of unknown people, SOROS is a globalist.  Dems won't walk away, will continue to push communism and tyranny.

Pence again.  He's an unknown.  Hodges didn't wonder publicly about him during the campaign because the movement was fragile.  Adams says Trump needed an establishment person as a bridge to the existing government.  But neither guy trusts Pence.

They agree that Trump will get about 20% of what he outlined in his first 100 days agenda.  So much resistance to his plans, 20% is probably realistic.

Immigration enforcement will be tough, will mean more police intrusion into private lives.  UWEX 16 is mentioned.  This is a martial law drill currently going on in Texas.  Like Jade Helm, military training to take on American citizens.  A link to some UWEX 16 articles is below:

https://www.google.com/search?q=uwex+16&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Left now wants to foment civil war ASAP.  Obama waged a scorched earth war against America and can still do a lot of damage in the next 70 days.  Race war, electoral rioting, hand over a burning America to Trump.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2016, 01:09:25 PM »
Michigan electors cite threats over Trump vote

Michael Banerian wants to show that young adults still have faith in the political system, but he said his selection as one of Michigan’s 16 Electoral College voters has prompted emails urging him to vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton and even threatening death.

On Dec. 19, the 22-year-old Banerian is scheduled to join 15 other Michiganians to cast their electoral votes for Republican President-elect Donald Trump. But Trump’s opponents have deluged Banerian and other GOP electors with pleas and nasty emails to reverse course and cast their ballots for Clinton, according to the Michigan Republican Party.

“You have people saying ‘you’re a hateful bigot, I hope you die,’ ” he said. “I’ve had people talk about shoving a gun in my mouth and blowing my brains out. And I’ve received dozens and dozens of those emails. Even the non-threatening-my-life emails are very aggressive.”

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176/

I'll be glad when the REAL election is over, the electoral college vote on December 19.  Then Trump will be a done deal.  No Clinton/Obama shenanigans can deny him the job.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2016, 12:38:41 PM »
Six rebel electors have signed an agreement to try to block Donald Trump from securing the 270 Electoral College votes needed to become president

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3962052/Six-electors-signed-agreement-try-block-Donald-Trump-securing-270-Electoral-College-votes-needed-president.html


Clinton Campaign Looking into Challenging Outcome of Election to Undermine the Vote

Reports from several sources revealed on November 22 that Clinton campaign chief John Podesta was taking meetings with a group claiming it had discovered “irregularities” in several counties of some of the states that Trump won.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/22/clinton-campaign-looking-into-challenging-outcome-of-election-to-undermine-the-vote/


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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2016, 12:53:08 PM »
Michigan Results to be Finalized at End of November; Trump Likely to Win (He better win or there is going to be a big backlash)

http://www.270towin.com/news/2016/11/17/michigan-results-to-be-finalized-at-end-of-november-trump-likely-to-win_417.html#.WDXXLrT3af0


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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2016, 03:01:17 PM »
Just saw this on Jim Stone's site:

GOOD AS OFFICIAL: TRUMP WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT
GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE JILL STEIN IS ORDERING RECOUNTS IN WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN, AND PENNSYLVANIA
THEY CANT GET AWAY WITH HILLARY ORDERING THE RECOUNT, SO THEY ARE USING JILL STEIN. DURING THE RECOUNT, TRUMP WILL LOSE.
You thought they'd just let Trump walk right in and pull the plug on the swamp? WHAT A LAUGH, IT IS GAME OVER.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2016, 04:38:04 PM »
Presidential vote closer in Michigan, but Trump still wins by 9,528

The race for president in Michigan got closer Tuesday once counties submitted their official results to the state, but Republican Donald Trump still remains the president-elect in Michigan, as well as the rest of the nation.

The state hasn’t yet posted the results compiled from the counties, which had to certify their results by Tuesday afternoon. But the Cook Political Report, a Washington-based newsletter, reported that according to official sources, Trump won the state by less than 1%, a margin of 9,528 votes out of 4,794,326 votes cast by Michiganders.

Before Tuesday, the Secretary of State had reported that the unofficial margin of victory for Trump was 13,107 votes. The state’s Board of Canvassers will certify Michigan’s Nov. 8 election results on Nov. 28 and the Michigan’s 16 members of the electoral college are scheduled to award the state’s 16 electoral college votes to the winner on Dec. 19.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/22/presidential-race-closer-michigan-but-donald-trump-still-winner/94305556/


Regarding Stein's recount, all 3 of the states that she's targeting will have different rules regarding the process.  She probably has the legal right to ask for a recount since she received a few votes.  Plus there are voter initiated recounts.  I'm surprised no group has done that.  Trump's people better take this seriously.  Recounts can target just one precinct or a handful, and the precincts targeted by the Clinton/Stein team will definitely swing more votes to Clinton.  The Trump team better respond in kind, recount those precincts where so many dead Democrats voted, for example.

http://ceimn.org/ceimn-state-recount-laws-searchable-database/states/Michigan

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
Jill Stein raises over $2m to request US election recounts in battleground states

Jill Stein, the Green party’s presidential candidate, is prepared to request recounts of the election result in several key battleground states, her campaign said on Wednesday.

Stein launched an online fundraising page seeking donations toward a multimillion-dollar fund she said was needed to request reviews of the results in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2016, 06:44:19 PM »
Green Party's Stein files recount request in Wisconsin

...Unofficial results compiled by the commission show Trump with 1,404,000 votes, Hillary Clinton with 1,381,823 votes and Stein with 31,000 votes.

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/11/25/jill-stein-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylvania-recount

Today (Friday) was the deadline in Wisconsin.  Stein filed in time.  Michigan and Pennsylvania deadlines are next week.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2016, 10:01:59 PM »
A few questions for the Alt-Left:

Why would a recount be necessary in the first place if there are no such thing as rigged elections?

Didn't Obama publicly dismiss the idea of a  U.S. election being "rigged" -- or lacking "integrity" -- as a "conspiracy theory"?

And didn't Hillary publicly accuse Trump of "threatening our democracy" by refusing to give an unconditional "yes" to the question of whether he would immediately "respect the results" of the election if he lost?

If, in the interest of being consistent, a rational, objective observer applies to this issue the standard that Obama and Hillary openly urged him to apply, is that observer not compelled by logic to conclude that -- by calling not just for a recount, but a recount only in those states in which Hillary lost -- the virtue-signaling Alt-Left is in fact guilty of the very thought crimes they indignantly accused Trump of last month?
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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2016, 04:17:04 PM »
The Latest: Wisconsin officials to set timeline for recount

...Wisconsin officials say it will be tough to finish the recount by the federally required deadline of Dec. 13.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-27-13-29-53


The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts

The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters.  If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232.  No one hits 270. 

Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time this happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson. 

If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it?  The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote  (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html


The second article may have hit the nail on the head.  This would explain why the recounts are being called for on the last days before the deadlines.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2016, 06:40:15 PM »
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2016, 06:59:32 PM »
Ok If Jill Stein  is calling for recounts  not to influence the election results but to check there was no foul play , stick up the dollars for a recount in  the states where hillary won  by even smaller numbers Jill  ;)

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2016, 07:39:05 PM »
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The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters.  If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232.  No one hits 270.

Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time this happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson.

If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it?  The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote  (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.

One thing bothers me about that article, come to think of it--there's no guarantee that congress would select Trump.  If they select Clinton, the mainstream news would tell us to remember how Trump didn't get along with the Republicans, so it makes sense that they'd pick Clinton.

But Trump would probably win in the congress, and then Obama could exit after he's brought us to the point of riots.  The MSM would quickly label them race riots (caused by Trump the racist, of course), and Obama/Ayers will finally get their race riots.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2016, 07:47:03 PM »
Thanks Rex for trying to keep the forum on topic here . I think Jilldog is going to lose what erm credability she had  what was is it ok 1 % of the overall vote .

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2016, 08:14:10 AM »
US Election: Illegal Voters and ID Laws

http://newobserveronline.com/us-election-illegal-voters-id-laws/

Hillary Clinton won 14 of the 20 U.S. states that require no identification from voters before casting their ballots—which include all the most heavily Third World invader-overrun states in the Union such as California, New Mexico, New Jersey, New York, and Nevada.

The issue has been highlighted again with Donald Trump’s latest Twitter comment that there was serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire, and California.
The states which require no identification to vote, and which were won by Clinton, were the following: California, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maine, and the District of Columbia.

Many of these states have “sanctuary cities” which have made all manner of special allowances to grant illegal invaders residence rights.

States which require no voter identification and which were won by Trump, were the following: Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

Discounting the states won by black turnout (92 percent of Blacks voted for Clinton, swinging electoral college votes such as the District of Columbia), California serves as the primary test case for an analysis of the impact of voter fraud.

According to the Public Policy Institute of California, a 2013 estimate said that there were 2.67 million illegal invaders in California alone. This translates to 6 percent of the then population, and believed to be almost a quarter of all illegal aliens in America.

Contrary to many reports, illegal aliens can get drivers’

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2016, 09:20:56 PM »
https://doomerdoug.wordpress.com/2016/11/28/jill-the-whore-fails-11-28-2016/

JILL THE WHORE FAILS 11-28-2016

 
It is now being reported that Jill the Green Party whore has been denied a recount in Pennsylvania. The reason being she missed the deadline to file such a request with a Pennsylvania court. I will tell you all IT IS FINISHED.

Even if Trump loses both Wisconsin, 10 votes, and Michigan, 16 votes, the 20
Electoral College Votes he just got from Pennsylvania put him at 280. The requirement is 270, so Donald Trump is now CONFIRMED as POTUS. The Snowflakes, George Soros and Hellary the Shrew, FAILED IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2016.


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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2016, 05:08:29 PM »
Finally, a recount that means something.  The Nevada results will be riddled with Clinton corruption.  So will the others, but this ones REALLY stinks:

The Latest: 5 Nevada counties to recount presidential race

Nevada election officials will recount ballots in five counties after independent presidential candidate Roque De La Fuente requested and paid about $14,000 for the effort.

De La Fuente finished last in the state but this week requested a recount in Nevada, a state Democrat Hillary Clinton won. De La Fuente says he wants to counterbalance a recount Green Party candidate Jill Stein requested in Wisconsin, which President-elect Donald Trump won. Stein also has requested recounts in Trump-won states of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/the-latest-stein-to-seek-presidential-recount-in-michigan/2016/11/30/c760d82c-b724-11e6-939c-91749443c5e5_story.html

And then there's the story about electors flip flopping:

Report: 15 Electors Will Refuse to Vote For Trump

In a sensational new development, TV host David Pakman says he was told by a high level source that 15 electors in states Trump won will refuse to vote for Donald Trump.

Pakman went on to say that the electors are also lobbying other members of the electoral college to not vote for Trump.

The goal is to prevent Trump from getting the 270 electoral votes he requires to become president.

http://www.infowars.com/report-15-electors-will-refuse-to-vote-for-trump/

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2016, 03:09:14 PM »
Trump's Lead in PA Shrinks By 22,000 Votes As Stein Seeks Statewide Recount

Reports are claiming that Donald Trump’s lead over Hillary Clinton in the Pennsylvania popular vote has shrunk by some 22,000 votes as some counties wrap up counting overseas ballots and settled provisional ballot challenges.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-03/trumps-lead-pa-shrinks-22000-votes-stein-seeks-statewide-recount

This BS makes me think of how Al Franken won his senate seat in 2008.  They kept recounting and recounting until he finally got enough votes, then they declared him the winner:

Al Franken May Have Won His Senate Seat Through Voter Fraud

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/07/20/al-franken-may-have-won-his-senate-seat-through-voter-fraud

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2016, 07:56:37 AM »
Jill Stein Campaign Plans To Take Pennsylvania Recount Effort To Federal Court

The Jill Stein campaign plans to bring the fight for a recount of votes cast in Pennsylvania to federal court.

Jonathan Abady, lead counsel to Stein's recount efforts, said in a statement late Saturday that starting Monday, the campaign will "file for emergency relief in federal court, demanding a statewide recount on constitutional grounds."

"It has become clear that the barriers to verifying the vote in Pennsylvania are so pervasive and that the state court system is so ill-equipped to address this problem that we must seek federal court intervention," Abady said....

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/03/504285672/jill-stein-campaign-drops-her-recount-effort-in-pennsylvania

Most places are reporting that Stein dropped the recount in Pennsylvania.  She didn't.  She simply abandoned the recount at the state level.  Now she'll file for federal action, tomorrow, and to be honest she can show that SOMETHING isn't right.  With just a scattering of counts Trump's lead dropped from 71,000 to 49,000.  The feds might order a full recount.  Which Pennsylvania wouldn't be able to finish in time, so their votes would be negated when the electoral college meets.



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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2016, 07:58:07 AM »
Recount Collapses: Jill Stein’s Failure in Pennsylvania Means No Overturning Donald Trump’s Ascension to Presidency
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/03/recount-collapses-jill-steins-failure-pennsylvania-means-no-overturning-donald-trumps-ascension-presidency/
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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2016, 11:13:26 AM »
Breitbart is putting its right-wing smiley face on this story.  Stein is going to federal court, tomorrow.  She's given up at the state level and is going to the feds.

I know it's tempting to think this thing is over, but its not.  If the feds order a recount, then Pennsylvania will not possibly be able to finish it by the time the electoral college meets.  Those votes will be out of play.

And Stein has a compelling case to show the feds.  A partial recount in Pennsylvania showed a YUGE discrepancy.  If I were an impartial judge looking at a 22,000 vote change in just a handful of sampled precincts, I would want a full recount.

EDIT: Unless they kill him, Trump will become president.  This electoral thing is being done to in order discredit him.  If he can be denied the electoral votes in PA, MI & MN, then congress will have to elect him.  But the mainstream media won't talk about his election, they'll talk about his "appointment" by his own party.  This will give an air of validity to "He's not my president" movements.  They'll be funded by Soros and will become the rage on campuses, in public schools and so on.  I know that Trump will be reluctant to meddle in the affairs of his fellow billionaires, but in his first hundred days he needs to take George Soros off the chessboard.  Charge him with treason, terrorism, freeze his assets.  In my opinion.

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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2016, 12:35:27 PM »
Breitbart is putting its right-wing smiley face on this story.  Stein is going to federal court, tomorrow.  She's given up at the state level and is going to the feds.

I know it's tempting to think this thing is over, but its not.  If the feds order a recount, then Pennsylvania will not possibly be able to finish it by the time the electoral college meets.  Those votes will be out of play.

And Stein has a compelling case to show the feds.  A partial recount in Pennsylvania showed a YUGE discrepancy.  If I were an impartial judge looking at a 22,000 vote change in just a handful of sampled precincts, I would want a full recount.

EDIT: Unless they kill him, Trump will become president.  This electoral thing is being done to in order discredit him.  If he can be denied the electoral votes in PA, MI & MN, then congress will have to elect him.  But the mainstream media won't talk about his election, they'll talk about his "appointment" by his own party.  This will give an air of validity to "He's not my president" movements.  They'll be funded by Soros and will become the rage on campuses, in public schools and so on.  I know that Trump will be reluctant to meddle in the affairs of his fellow billionaires, but in his first hundred days he needs to take George Soros off the chessboard.  Charge him with treason, terrorism, freeze his assets.  In my opinion.

Remember this 'recount distraction' is ALL ONE OPERATION in conjunction with the Trump Op.

Trump will become the NSA / Pentagon president.  WHILE, at the the same time, the 'Pre- PLANNED' ANTI-Trump movement will be used to bring in the 'COUNTER LEFT' Hero in the future. 
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Re: ALERT - Nov 10, Election not over yet - Michigan?
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2016, 02:44:32 PM »
Gowd this type of tripe is becoming sooooo old...Jesus wept...

if EVERYTHING is really controlled and there is just one side, then it's hopeless anyways...don't you have a single bone of hope in your entire body?