* Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)

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Offline Waltraut

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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 10:51:45 AM »
but... I think it's important that he was a really american raised kid who went to k-12 school here. They also said that he appeared to be in a trance or 'zombielike' when they found him? Maybe he is developing schizophrenia and had a psychotic break.

http://koin.com/ap/police-hunt-gunman-who-killed-4-at-washington-state-mall/


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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 11:59:05 AM »

  When I first saw the picture, I turned to my wife and told her that that guy is not a Mexican and he looks Middle Eastern.
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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 12:18:40 PM »
They also said that he appeared to be in a trance or 'zombielike' when they found him?

Young man goes on rampage without any apparent motive, had been a recipient of mental health 'treatment,' and is picked up in a trance-like state?  That fits the profile of every other whack shooter at least since Columbine:


4-20-99
Columbine massacre, CO
Library witness Heidi Johnson: "It was like they weren't even there.  I saw their faces .... and their eyes were just kind of like, they weren't there, you know, these boys just didn't know what they were doing."

9-13-06  Montreal, Dawson College, Kimveer Gill, 25, 
Witness: "He said nothing. He had a stone cold face, there was nothing on his face, he didn't say anything..."

4-16-07  Virginia Tech, VA Cho Seung Hui, 23
Witness Kristina Anderson:  "... he was shooting so quickly and so methodically, his face calm and expressionless."

11-5-09 Ft. Hood, TX  Major Malik Nadal Hasan
"... he had a blank expression on his face, almost like he was not there.."  "He didn't care. He was just looking at me," said the sergeant, who took several bullets after that wordless exchange. "He wasn't angry. He wasn't happy. It was just, you know, a passive look."

1-8-11 Safeway/Tucson, AZ  Jared Loughner, 22
Eyewitness claimed he had a blank expression on his face..
"He didn't look angry, just a dead face, nothing."
"Shooter had 'passive' face."  "He(gunman) was cold, he didn't care."

7-20-12 Batman Shooting, Aurora, C0  James Holmes, 24
While shooting, he had the classic "blank," "calm" expression on his face.
"Police reports from the day of the shooting noted that after he was apprehended, Holmes "stared off into space" and "seemed out of it."  "

11-1-13 LAX shooting Paul Anthony Ciancia, 23
"witness Vernon Cardenas: "He(shooter) was just walking around sort of dazed..." "

12-13-13   Arapahoe High School, CO  Karl Pierson, 18
"Tait Priser...  heard a gunshot and saw Pierson...  "He wasn't running, he wasn't yelling. He was calmly walking. It just seemed like it was an everyday occurrence for him." "

4-15-14  Calgary, Alberta house party mass stabbing  Matthew de Grood, 22
"De Grood was "emotionless. Just staring through me like I wasn't there. ...Matthew de Grood had "expressionless eyes and face," upon his arrest, Const. Rob Tippett says."

6-4-14  Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada shooting rampage, Justin Bourque, 24
"He just had the most blank look on his face, like he was on a mission, ready to do something"
"...he had this really dead look on his face.  ... He was on a mission, you could tell."

6-10-14  Reynolds High School, Troutdale, OR  Jared Padgett, 15
"Trichos said he tried to speak to Padgett "He wouldn't answer me. He just kept walking slowly," he said. "He had a blank face; it was like he was on a mission." "





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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2016, 12:48:24 PM »
RELATED STORIES--- SOME MORE SHOOTINGS AND STABBINGS IN AMERICA THIS WEEKEND


CHAMPAIGN, IL

https://www.rt.com/usa/360541-illinois-university-campus-shooting/

5 people shot on Illinois University campus, shooter reportedly at large

CHICAGO

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-20160924-story.html

Man critically wounded in shooting near Millennium Park among 22 shot citywide

BOSTON

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/09/25/emerson-college-warns-students-stabbings-near-campus/sLa9s4EX7HrVFrL0JysS2L/story.html

Seven people stabbed in Boston’s Theater District

BALTIMORE

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-shooting-baltimore-multiple-people-injured-42335981

Baltimore Police: 3 Gunmen Shoot, Wound 8 in Attack
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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2016, 02:20:59 PM »
Wait for it...   wait for it....   Here it is!

https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Individual_Gun_Access_Prevention_by_Court_Order,_Initiative_1491_(2016)
The Individual Gun Access Prevention by Court Order, Initiative 1491, is on the November 8, 2016, ballot in Washington as an initiated state statute. 
Initiative 1491 would authorize courts to issue “extreme risk protection orders,” which would prevent a person from possessing or accessing firearms.  ...  The measure also authorizes courts to issue “ex parte extreme risk protection order,” which would hasten the process of prohibiting a person from possessing or accessing firearms.

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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2016, 04:38:35 PM »
Wait for it...   wait for it....   Here it is!

https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Individual_Gun_Access_Prevention_by_Court_Order,_Initiative_1491_(2016)
The Individual Gun Access Prevention by Court Order, Initiative 1491, is on the November 8, 2016, ballot in Washington as an initiated state statute. 
Initiative 1491 would authorize courts to issue “extreme risk protection orders,” which would prevent a person from possessing or accessing firearms.  ...  The measure also authorizes courts to issue “ex parte extreme risk protection order,” which would hasten the process of prohibiting a person from possessing or accessing firearms.

Interesting timing, yet again!  Orchestration for multiple agendas!
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Re: * Washington State Mall Shooting Possible DHS Drill
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2016, 05:51:58 PM »
MHB covers the drillish aspects of this event.

Cascade Mall Shooting an ‘Active Shooter Drill’?

- Victim Corpses Remain in Mall Overnight
- Witnesses Sequestered from Press
- Photograph depicts porta-potties, hugs and smiles at scene







More:
http://memoryholeblog.com/2016/09/24/cascade-mall-shooting-observations-an-active-shooter-drill/
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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 06:09:17 PM »
  When I first saw the picture, I turned to my wife and told her that that guy is not a Mexican and he looks Middle Eastern.

  I was listening to Michael Savage this afternoon.  He said that he was one of the 1st to call this terrorism by a radical Islamic.  He also said that isn't interesting that the MSM have basically buried this story because THEY KNOW THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS STORY WILL HELP TRUMP.  I AGREE.
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Re: * Washington State Mall shooter not a US citizen (an immigrant from Turkey)
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 12:00:33 AM »
WHO MADE THIS CRIME INTO A FEDERAL CASE, and why?


The sole court appearance by the suspect was at a local court on Monday:

http://abc7ny.com/news/docs-alleged-washington-mall-shooter-arcan-cetin-confessed/1526852/
Arcan Cetin, 20, appeared in court...  on five counts of first-degree premeditated murder for the shooting at the Cascade Mall...  The suspect appeared in Skagit County District Court...

http://www.skagitcounty.net/Departments/DistrictCourt/main.htm
Skagit County* District Court handles the following case types:
    Traffic Infractions
    Misdemeanors and Gross Misdemeanors
    Civil Claims to $100,000
    Small Claims to $5,000
    Protection Orders
    Name Change Petitions
    Dangerous Dog Hearings
    Vehicle Impound Hearings

Do you see "Murder One" in there anywhere?  He should have gone to the local Superior Court for this major crime:

http://www.skagitcounty.net/Departments/SuperiorCourt/main.htm
Superior Court Handles the Following Cases:
    Felony Criminal
    Civil
    Dissolution and Custody
    Juvenile Court Proceedings
    Paternity Cases/Adoption Matters
    Probates
    Mental Commitment Proceedings

Though somehow the Superior Court wound up in charge of the 'documents.'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/25/after-day-long-manhunt-police-arrest-20-year-old-in-washington-state-mall-killings/?utm_term=.35bb720c7045
Cetin confessed to the shooting to detectives, according to court documents released Monday by the Skagit County Superior Court.


Anyway, the court appearance is known as an "arraignment" where the suspect is read the charges, takes a plea, and bail is set. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment
Arraignment is a formal reading of a criminal charging document in the presence of the defendant to inform the defendant of the charges against the defendant. In response to arraignment, the accused is expected to enter a plea. Acceptable pleas vary among jurisdictions, but they generally include "guilty", "not guilty"...


But no plea was entered nor bail set.  Why not?  The only explanation is that court was using Federal Rules, where arraignment is different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment
In federal courts, arraignment takes place in two stages. The first is called the initial arraignment ...  During this arraignment the defendant is informed of the pending legal charges and is informed of his or her right to retain counsel. The presiding judge also decides at what amount, if any, to set bail. During the second arraignment, a post-indictment arraignment or PIA, the defendant is allowed to enter a plea.


Interestingly, this is also how the court appearances for AME Church shooting suspect Dylan Roof was handled.  And Roof is being tried in both Federal and State Courts.  So expect the same for this case.

Also note how all the media ignored this curious little fact.  They don't want no questions asked.