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Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« on: September 23, 2016, 10:36:53 PM »
The darling of the conservative, Sheriff Clarke, is just a right wing shill to put a good face on the police.
He is as big a lair as all the rest of the police; I don't know what it is going to take for people to realize that the police are a bunch of lying scum.
They lie about EVERYTHING and act like they don't and defend the lying police and forge the lie in the cover ups.
If the films were immediately released they would not be able to develop the lies and destroy evidence, which currently is what they do every single time. The information is public and the police deserve no latitude or immunity to release for their protection and actually deserve less not more rights to the evidence.
Until the cops are held FULLY accountable and put in jail there is never going to be an end their crimes.

Now this may seem simple but this is what needs to be drive home into the understand because nearly every time the cops kill someone they insist that the victim did not comply, that is not a punishable crime to be executed for; the cops have no right to cause people to comply to their commands, it is unconstitutional and unlawful, but they get away with it base on the tolerance by the judicial system and there is no one to arrest them for making unlawful orders. Even disobeying a lawful order is only a misdemeanor and is not a reason for a cop to kill someone and if they are in fear of there life they should get another job and should not be allow to discharge there weapon unless fired on, that is the proper rule of engagement.

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 01:21:50 AM »

They should just let the person go and pick them up later if there is such a touchy situation.  But, it seems to be about Control and Obey.  People who have issues about Obey & Control to the point of pushing it to the death of another (just because they can) shouldn't be a cop.   Our society is so messed up.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 07:06:51 AM »
They should just let the person go and pick them up later if there is such a touchy situation.  But, it seems to be about Control and Obey.  People who have issues about Obey & Control to the point of pushing it to the death of another (just because they can) shouldn't be a cop.   Our society is so messed up.

You pick up the point exactly; we are free and don't have to obey the unlawful, however a system of lawlessness has been established where you either obey or die.
The point of "Comply or Die is NOT the Law" is that it defines the problem exactly; the demonstrative action of killing someone because they did not comply has been twisted into a false justification far below logical conclusions that even the slightest disobedience (a Misdemeanor) will be dealt with immediate execution.
Setting a position of a Judge, Jury and Executioner that usurps our unalienable rights and puts people lives into the hands of fools.

Comply or Die is NOT the Law !

There are no good cops!
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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 07:49:08 AM »
There are no good cops ? I have family that are in law enforcement who are you to make a comment like that are you saying that my brother is not a good cop he has been in law enforcement for a decade and has never used his weapon .......... I would say you may want to re-word your broad cooments they are shameful ! My best friend of over 25 years is ex ATF and in law enforcement and he is a great man and father are you going to tell me you know my best friend better than I do ..... I enjoy reading some of your posts but this one is shameful !

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 09:30:40 AM »
and has never used his weapon ..........

Boom! Now there is something to boast about.

That. That right there needs desperately to be recognized as a noble trait within law enforcement and within their local communities.

Here's to another decade of resolving conflicts without the need for deadly force.
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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 09:48:23 AM »
I understand there are bad cops out there but no where near all of them .........

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 10:03:34 AM »
There are no good cops ? I have family that are in law enforcement who are you to make a comment like that are you saying that my brother is not a good cop he has been in law enforcement for a decade and has never used his weapon .......... I would say you may want to re-word your broad cooments they are shameful ! My best friend of over 25 years is ex ATF and in law enforcement and he is a great man and father are you going to tell me you know my best friend better than I do ..... I enjoy reading some of your posts but this one is shameful !

You are wrong and just bias; cops ritually violate the rights of others and then other cover for those unlawful acts.
The board comment you think is shameful is just the truth and the truth here is shameful and furthermore for those the turn a blind eye to the obvious fact aspirates the problem. AFT stand for oppression and is an unconstitutional organization, I find it strange you are an infowarriors and don't know that?
I do know cops and DAs and have confronted them to the face and in fact I stand in front of their HQs and bullhorn them, many times, and call them out and have NO SHAME doing it.   



I understand there are bad cops out there but no where near all of them .........

I also understand the some people who are cops do good things, however it only mitigates that they still uphold unlawful actions and regardless of their other actions be they are good or not they still are cops, they just are not as bad as other cops.

There are no good cops!

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 10:10:11 AM »
Your entitled to that opinion but I sure do not agree with you .... Good luck !

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2016, 10:20:54 AM »
Your entitled to that opinion but I sure do not agree with you .... Good luck !

Appreciate that and will continue to confront them to the face and they know it.
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You might have miss my modified comment to your previous comment which further qualifies my position.

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2016, 10:29:43 AM »
The man in the ATF had to leave his family behind for several years as he was undercover and took out a group of the motorcylce gang called the outlaws, I am sure you have reasons to be so biased and whatever happened I am sorry but you have no right to be so judgemental when you have no personal knowlede of the individual .... Like i said goodluck.... dont bother to respond to me because you have offended me and I have no intention of continuing this conversation with you ..... its kinda like tryin to talk a sheeple into changing there mind  if they are to brainwashed about a certain topic you simply cannot help them

I truly wish you well .... take care !

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 04:10:16 PM »
The police, FBI, CIA, ATF have all been compromised in various ways but the one thing they all have in common is they lie about everything, it is SOP, and if they belong to a group of know lairs I don't have to know the individual to pass a righteous judgment, just by association an individual can be judged, good attention be damned if you belong to a group of liars you are no good.

All cops are bad by association, they cover up and selectively enforce the law and anyone wants to deny that is just fooling themselves.   

So people like Honor 18 wants to attack me, tough, I will call them out and offend them as much as possible, because it is obvious they have joined with the bad guys and I just don't care.

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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2016, 05:03:59 PM »
Jacob Law, have you ever been arrested? I'm asking rhetorically, but will answer for myself. I have. The police have pulled their guns on me three times in my life, the only people who ever have. I completely agree with you as far as comply or die is not the law, but I'm here still alive because I did comply and didn't make any threatening moves. And after they decided I wasn't a threat anymore, they would question me. Most of the time they have let me go, more than just three times. Twice I've been to jail facing charges. One time I made a deal for a stupid law that they could have made me spend 6 months in jail for, but it's all over now. The other time, they dropped the charges because they heard out everybody's side of the story and decided it was a non-event. To say all police officers are complete lying scum is so over the top, you obviously haven't had any real experience with them. What do you think yelling and bullhorning people in the face is gonna get you? How about the black eye I have right now cause I had a moment of weakness the other day?
I like your posts for the most part man, but I think you should know, if you choose to comply by working and living within the corporate UNITED STATES, their policies will be enforced upon you by police officers
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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2016, 10:06:46 PM »
Jacob Law, have you ever been arrested? I'm asking rhetorically, but will answer for myself. I have. The police have pulled their guns on me three times in my life, the only people who ever have. I completely agree with you as far as comply or die is not the law, but I'm here still alive because I did comply and didn't make any threatening moves. And after they decided I wasn't a threat anymore, they would question me. Most of the time they have let me go, more than just three times. Twice I've been to jail facing charges. One time I made a deal for a stupid law that they could have made me spend 6 months in jail for, but it's all over now. The other time, they dropped the charges because they heard out everybody's side of the story and decided it was a non-event. To say all police officers are complete lying scum is so over the top, you obviously haven't had any real experience with them. What do you think yelling and bullhorning people in the face is gonna get you? How about the black eye I have right now cause I had a moment of weakness the other day?
I like your posts for the most part man, but I think you should know, if you choose to comply by working and living within the corporate UNITED STATES, their policies will be enforced upon you by police officers

Appreciate your comment; but you are wrong though about my real experience with the police and not to elaborate any more than I have already, but I have been told that I broke the back of the police and the mindset of those that have supported the police in the past, some say world wide. Much of the protest you are seeing today are following my protest format I started January 19, 2013...... after my unarmed daughter was murdered by the police in 2013 I found the courage to face the beast head on and I haven't stop. I call it like it is; the cops although they do good things sometimes their position still is corrupt and they all are lying scumbag covering up for each other in the end, there are no good cops, it is just a fundamental fact.
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 All the Ways You Can Comply and Still Die During An Encounter with Police


By John W. Whitehead
October 03, 2016

“Police are specialists in violence. They are armed, trained, and authorized to use force. With varying degrees of subtlety, this colors their every action. Like the possibility of arrest, the threat of violence is implicit in every police encounter. Violence, as well as the law, is what they represent.”—Author Kristian Williams

How do you protect yourself from flying fists, choking hands, disabling electrified darts and killing bullets?

How do you defend yourself against individuals who have been indoctrinated into believing that they are superior to you, that their word is law, and that they have the power to take your life?

Most of all, how can you maintain the illusion of freedom when daily, Americans are being shot, stripped, searched, choked, beaten and tasered by police for little more than daring to frown, smile, question, challenge an order or just exist?

The short answer: you can’t.

Now for the long answer, which is far more complicated but still leaves us feeling hopeless, helpless and vulnerable to the fears, moods and misguided training of every cop on the beat.

If you ask police and their enablers what Americans should do to stay alive during encounters with law enforcement, they will tell you to comply (or die).

It doesn’t matter where you live—big city or small town—it’s the same scenario being played out over and over again in which Americans are being brainwashed into believing that anyone who wears a government uniform—soldier, police officer, prison guard—must be obeyed without question, while government agents, hyped up on their own authority and the power of their uniform, ride roughshod over the rights of the citizenry.

For example, a local law enforcement agency in Virginia has started handing out a guide—developed in cooperation with a group of African American pastors—on how to interact with police. The purpose of this government resource, according to the police, is to make sure citizens feel “comfortable” and know what to do when interacting with police in order to “promote public safety and respectful interaction.”

Curiously, nowhere in the “Guide to Interacting with Police” is there any mention of the Constitution, or the rights of the citizenry, other than the right to remain silent.

In fact, the primary point stressed throughout the bilingual guide aimed at “building trust and cooperation,” is that citizens should comply, cooperate, obey, not resist, not argue, not make threatening gestures or statements, avoid sudden movements, and submit to a search of their person and belongings.

The problem, of course, is what to do when compliance is not enough.

I’m not talking about the number of individuals—especially young people—who are being shot and killed by police for having a look-alike gun in their possession, such as a BB gun. I’m not even talking about people who have been shot for brandishing weapons at police, such as scissors.

I’m talking about the growing numbers of unarmed people are who being shot and killed for just standing a certain way, or moving a certain way, or holding something—anything—that police could misinterpret to be a gun, or igniting some trigger-centric fear in a police officer’s mind that has nothing to do with an actual threat to their safety.



“Police are specialists in violence. They are armed, trained, and authorized to use force. With varying degrees of subtlety, this colors their every action. Like the possibility of arrest, the threat of violence is implicit in every police encounter. Violence, as well as the law, is what they represent.”—Author Kristian Williams

How do you protect yourself from flying fists, choking hands, disabling electrified darts and killing bullets?

How do you defend yourself against individuals who have been indoctrinated into believing that they are superior to you, that their word is law, and that they have the power to take your life?

Most of all, how can you maintain the illusion of freedom when daily, Americans are being shot, stripped, searched, choked, beaten and tasered by police for little more than daring to frown, smile, question, challenge an order or just exist?

The short answer: you can’t.

Now for the long answer, which is far more complicated but still leaves us feeling hopeless, helpless and vulnerable to the fears, moods and misguided training of every cop on the beat.

If you ask police and their enablers what Americans should do to stay alive during encounters with law enforcement, they will tell you to comply (or die).

It doesn’t matter where you live—big city or small town—it’s the same scenario being played out over and over again in which Americans are being brainwashed into believing that anyone who wears a government uniform—soldier, police officer, prison guard—must be obeyed without question, while government agents, hyped up on their own authority and the power of their uniform, ride roughshod over the rights of the citizenry.

For example, a local law enforcement agency in Virginia has started handing out a guide—developed in cooperation with a group of African American pastors—on how to interact with police. The purpose of this government resource, according to the police, is to make sure citizens feel “comfortable” and know what to do when interacting with police in order to “promote public safety and respectful interaction.”

Curiously, nowhere in the “Guide to Interacting with Police” is there any mention of the Constitution, or the rights of the citizenry, other than the right to remain silent.

In fact, the primary point stressed throughout the bilingual guide aimed at “building trust and cooperation,” is that citizens should comply, cooperate, obey, not resist, not argue, not make threatening gestures or statements, avoid sudden movements, and submit to a search of their person and belongings.

The problem, of course, is what to do when compliance is not enough.

I’m not talking about the number of individuals—especially young people—who are being shot and killed by police for having a look-alike gun in their possession, such as a BB gun. I’m not even talking about people who have been shot for brandishing weapons at police, such as scissors.

I’m talking about the growing numbers of unarmed people are who being shot and killed for just standing a certain way, or moving a certain way, or holding something—anything—that police could misinterpret to be a gun, or igniting some trigger-centric fear in a police officer’s mind that has nothing to do with an actual threat to their safety.

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/all_the_ways_you_can_comply_and_still_die_during_an_encounter_with_police
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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2016, 06:53:59 AM »
I'm sincerely sorry about your loss. I can't even imagine what you've gone through with that atrocity. And reading about these things, such as that article, can really get to me.
I believe all of this is a result of a lot of people being serious threats to society and police officers as products of the war on drugs and gang culture. The criminal class of today are third generation animals. They have zero regard for life or property or keeping the peace. Openly. This bleeds out into public perception of anyone committing even simple petty "crimes." The police are exposed to just as much of the same media "the world is going crazy" as the rest of us and in turn act like jumpy trigger-happy cowards, encouraged by their peers and training.
The only way to start fixing this is through policy changes up and down the government. We need to take away incentive for criminal activity. Yelling at police who are already brain-washed and feeling supported by the sheeple isn't gonna work. A bigger enemy of freedom are the people with mason stickers or "I paid into a police fund" stickers on the back window of their cars so they feel they're "in" and won't even get a ticket for speeding. They feed the beast well.
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Re: Sheriff Clarke is Just Like All the Rest of the Lair Cops
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2016, 09:21:22 AM »
I'm sincerely sorry about your loss. I can't even imagine what you've gone through with that atrocity. And reading about these things, such as that article, can really get to me.
I believe all of this is a result of a lot of people being serious threats to society and police officers as products of the war on drugs and gang culture. The criminal class of today are third generation animals. They have zero regard for life or property or keeping the peace. Openly. This bleeds out into public perception of anyone committing even simple petty "crimes." The police are exposed to just as much of the same media "the world is going crazy" as the rest of us and in turn act like jumpy trigger-happy cowards, encouraged by their peers and training.
The only way to start fixing this is through policy changes up and down the government. We need to take away incentive for criminal activity. Yelling at police who are already brain-washed and feeling supported by the sheeple isn't gonna work. A bigger enemy of freedom are the people with mason stickers or "I paid into a police fund" stickers on the back window of their cars so they feel they're "in" and won't even get a ticket for speeding. They feed the beast well.
Just keep waking up the sheep.

Comply or Die is NOT the Law !

It is a lot different once it touches you personally and you become engage in the fray against the police and all their system. Really the best way to end the attack on the American people is to make the police accountable in  a big way and with no tolerance, the police shoot and kill an unarmed person they go to jail for a long time.
The rest of the article is very good ending of example of people complying that were killed anyway. The truth is that the police do no engage real crime in the USA they are picking on the indefensible, unarmed, women, children, and homeless among other weak people that are not a real threat, there are no good cops.

I’m talking about the growing numbers of unarmed people are who being shot and killed for just standing a certain way, or moving a certain way, or holding something—anything—that police could misinterpret to be a gun, or igniting some trigger-centric fear in a police officer’s mind that has nothing to do with an actual threat to their safety.

Killed for standing in a “shooting stance.” In California, police opened fire on and killed a mentally challenged—unarmed—black man within minutes of arriving on the scene, allegedly because he removed a vape smoking device from his pocket and took a “shooting stance.”

Killed for holding a cell phone. Police in Arizona shot a man who was running away from U.S. Marshals after he refused to drop an object that turned out to be a cellphone.

Killed for behaving oddly and holding a baseball bat. Responding to a domestic disturbance call, Chicago police shot and killed 19-year-old college student Quintonio LeGrier who had reportedly been experiencing mental health problems and was carrying a baseball bat around the apartment where he and his father lived.

Killed for opening the front door. Bettie Jones, who lived on the floor below LeGrier, was also fatally shot—this time, accidentally—when she attempted to open the front door for police.

Killed for being a child in a car pursued by police. Jeremy David Mardis, six years old and autistic, died after being shot multiple times by Louisiana police in the head and torso. Police opened fire on the car—driven by Jeremy’s father, Chris Few, who was also shot—and then allegedly lied, claiming that they were attempting to deliver an outstanding warrant, that Few resisted arrest, that he shot at police (no gun was found), and that he tried to ram his car into a police cruiser. Body camera footage refuted the police’s claims.

Killed for attacking police with a metal spoon. In Alabama, police shot and killed a 50-year-old man who reportedly charged a police officer while holding “a large metal spoon in a threatening manner.”

Killed for running in an aggressive manner holding a tree branch. Georgia police shot and killed a 47-year-old man wearing only shorts and tennis shoes who, when first encountered, was sitting in the woods against a tree, only to start running towards police holding a stick in an “aggressive manner.”

Killed for crawling around naked. Atlanta police shot and killed an unarmed man who was reported to have been “acting deranged, knocking on doors, crawling around on the ground naked.” Police fired two shots at the man after he reportedly starting running towards them.

Killed for hunching over in a defensive posture. Responding to a domestic trouble call, multiple officers with the Baltimore County police forced their way inside a home where, fearing for their safety and the safety of others,” three officers opened fire on an unarmed 41-year-old man who was hunched over in a defensive posture. The man was killed in front of his two young daughters and their mother.

Killed because a police officer accidentally pulled out his gun instead of his taser. An Oklahoma man suspected of trying to sell an illegal handgun was shot and killed after a 73-year-old reserve deputy inadvertently fired his gun instead of his taser. “Oh! I shot him! I'm sorry!” the deputy cried out.

Killed for wearing dark pants and a basketball jersey. Donnell Thompson, a mentally disabled 27-year-old described as gentle and shy, was shot and killed after police—searching for a carjacking suspect reportedly wearing similar clothing—encountered him lying motionless in a neighborhood yard. Police “only” opened fire with an M4 rifle after Thompson first failed to respond to their flash bang grenades and then started running after being hit by foam bullets.

Killed for telling police you lawfully own a firearm and have a conceal-and-carry permit. Philando Castile was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop allegedly over a broken tail light. As he was reaching for his license and registration, Castile explained to police that he had a  conceal-and-carry permit. That’s all it took for police to shoot Castile four times in the presence of his girlfriend and her 4-year-old daughter.

Killed for leaving anywhere at all when a police officer pulls up. Deravis Caine Rogers was killed after starting to drive away from an apartment complex right around the same time as a police officer pulled up. Despite the fact that the police officer had no reason to believe Rogers was a threat or was suspected of any illegal activity, the officer fired into Rogers’ passenger side window.

Killed for driving while deaf. In North Carolina, a state trooper shot and killed 29-year-old Daniel K. Harris—who was deaf—after Harris initially failed to pull over during a traffic stop.

Killed for being homeless. Los Angeles police shot an unarmed homeless man after he failed to stop riding his bicycle and then proceeded to run from police.

Killed for being old and brandishing a shoehorn. John Wrana, a 95-year-old World War II veteran, lived in an assisted living center, used a walker to get around, and was shot and killed by police who mistook the shoehorn in his hand for a 2-foot-long machete and fired multiple beanbag rounds from a shotgun at close range.

Killed for having your car break down on the road. Terence Crutcher, unarmed and black, was shot and killed by Oklahoma police after his car broke down on the side of the road. Crutcher was shot in the back while walking towards his car with his hands up.

Killed for holding a garden hose. California police were ordered to pay $6.5 million after they opened fire on a man holding a garden hose, believing it to be a gun. Douglas Zerby was shot 12 times and pronounced dead on the scene.

Shot seven times for peeing outdoors. Eighteen-year-old Keivon Young was shot seven times by police from behind while urinating outdoors. Young was just zipping up his pants when he heard a commotion behind him and then found himself struck by a hail of bullets from two undercover cops. Allegedly officers mistook Young—5’4,” 135 lbs., and guilty of nothing more than taking a leak outdoors—for a 6’ tall, 200 lb. murder suspect whom they later apprehended. Young was charged with felony resisting arrest and two counts of assaulting a peace officer.

Now you can make all kinds of excuses to justify these shootings, and in fact that’s exactly what you’ll hear from politicians, police unions, law enforcement officials and individuals who are more than happy to march in lockstep with the police. However, to suggest that a good citizen is a compliant citizen and that obedience will save us from the police state is not only recklessly irresponsible, but it is also deluded and out of touch with reality, because in the American police state, compliance is no longer enough.

Frankly, as these incidents make clear, the only truly compliant, submissive and obedient citizen in a police state is a dead one.

If you’re starting to feel somewhat overwhelmed, intimidated and fearful for your life and your property, you should be.

As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, “we the people” are now at the mercy of law enforcement officers who have almost absolute discretion to decide who is a threat, what constitutes resistance, and how harshly they can deal with the citizens they were appointed to “serve and protect.”

Sad, isn’t it, how quickly we have gone from a nation of laws—where the least among us had just as much right to be treated with dignity and respect as the next person (in principle, at least)—to a nation of law enforcers (revenue collectors with weapons) who treat us all like suspects and criminals?

WC: 1798
 https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/all_the_ways_you_can_comply_and_still_die_during_an_encounter_with_police
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