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« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2017, 10:29:33 AM »
In addition to the financial assistance he provided the al Qaeda's Hamburg cell for the 9/11 attacks, Darkazanli compiled one of the more intriguing dossiers you will read. Darkazanli was initially a member of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood (SMB), which was once staunchly opposed to the Assad family's regime and, in fact, sponsored by Saddam's government, among others. The Syrian government, however, went through a couple of phases of rapprochement with the SMB. And SMB elements abroad ended up working for or with Syrian intelligence on some occasions.

In all probability, Darkazanli and his fellow Syrian, Mohammed Zammar, who recruited lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta for al Qaeda, were both such SMB elements. They ran the al Qaeda Hamburg cell, but prior to that they worked for a company called Tatex Trading. Tatex Trading was run by Abdul Matin Tatari -- a longtime backer of the Assad family. Tatari's eldest son was actually close with Mohammed Atta. After 9/11, German investigators found that Mohammed Hadi Tatari often visited Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi (another 9/11 hijacker) in their Hamburg apartment. A younger Tatari son also signed one of Mohammed Atta's petitions calling for an "Islamic studies" group to be formed at the Technical University of Hamburg, where both Atta and the Tatari son attended.

It gets much worse. Tatex had only two shareholders. One of them was Mohamad Majed Said, who was the head of the Syrian intelligence service from 1987 to 1994. In 2001, Said was also a member of the Syrian National Security Council -- the government's chief security apparatus. All of this, and more, is why German intelligence officials have openly talked about "The Syrian Connection" to 9/11. There is nothing to worry about though. Just because an ally openly talks about a hostile government's involvement with al Qaeda, it doesn't mean we should take it seriously. Indeed, the 9/11 Commission went out of its way to ignore all of this. The Germans have refused to extradite him to Spain to stand trial for his involvement with the 3/11 Madrid train bombers and his other al Qaeda ties.

After being captured in Morocco, Zammar was transferred to the Syrians with the blessing of the Bush administration. Zammar's transfer to the Syrians is one of the more bizarre episodes in the war on terror because it ensured that American investigators would not have direct access to him. There is simply no way the Syrians are going to tell us what Zammar and Darkzanli were really doing while working for Tatex, or how they ended up working for a Syrian intelligence front company. One last thing:

According to German intelligence, Darkazanli -- again, who helped finance 9/11 -- was involved in illicit trade deals with the Iraqi regime under the oil-for-food program. Darkazanli shipped mercury heat lamps through a Jordanian intermediary to Saddam's government. Those lamps were so-called "dual use" items that had legitimate purposes but could also be used in WMD development projects. None of this appeared in tonight's show, but it was still worth watching.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-wanted-mamoun-darkazanli/article/239796
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« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2017, 01:50:12 PM »
When Wadih el-Hage came to the US he married April Ray, a woman reported as a muslim convert. As i understand it April's brother was a John Ray who worked in US military intelligence, then became a gun dealer and supplier of arms to Makhtab Al Kidamat through Wadih el Hage. Hage was the personal assistant to Osama bin Laden and was known as 'the manager' inside Al Qaeda.

It seems possible the US military had eyes and ears inside Al Qaeda from the get go.
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« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2017, 02:04:44 PM »
Anybody able to clear up the murder of Mustafa Shalabi. Where it took place. What really happenned.
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« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2017, 02:56:23 PM »
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But as the Sept. 11 investigations on both sides of the Atlantic have progressed, more links have emerged between Darkazanli and al-Qaida. One is the disclosure that Darkazanli received at least $16,000 from Mohamed Kaleb Kalaje Zouaydi, a wealthy Spanish-Syrian arrested in Madrid in April and accused of funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to al-Qaida and other radical Islamic organizations. - Chicago Tribune

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Zouaydi

In Saudi Arabia he was known as accountant for the al-Faisal branch of the Saudi royal family, which included Prince Turki al-Faisal.
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« Reply #124 on: March 02, 2017, 06:37:15 PM »
Saleh al-Hussayen was in the same hotel as the terrorists on the night before 911. Someone from the FBI was on the ball and knocked on his door to interview him soon after the attacks. He refused to be interviewed and they had to speak to him through his wife. He was flown out the country on the famous Saudi flight soon afterward.

He had some sort of relative, possibly a nephew, named Sami Omar Al-Hussayen, in Idaho. This man ran an Al Qaeda website which ran calls for commando suicide operations in the summer of 2001. A background check on this man revealed an address in Richardson Texas, home of the Holy Land Foundation.

An early name for Al Qaeda was Makhtab al-Kidamat. It had two famous offices in the US, one was in Tucson Az. Part of the Tucson office was called Al-Bunyan Islamic Information Centre. One of the WTC93 conspirators, for example, possessed false identity papers from this place.

The two names on the 1989 incorporation documents for Al-Bunyan are Wadih el-Hage and Aiman Nakhal. A background check on Nakhal reveals an address in Richardson as well.

A review of these two peoples Richardson addresses reveals connections between them.

Is al-Hussayen part of Al Qaeda? Why was he flown out of the US with urgency?
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« Reply #125 on: March 03, 2017, 07:57:21 AM »
RIYADH, Sept 8 2002: Confusion prevailed here on the issue of Wael Hamza Julaidan who was implicated last Friday by the US State Department of having links with the Al Qaeda network of Osama Bin Laden.

Saudi Interior Minister Prince Naif bin Abdul Aziz has insisted that the US produce convincing evidence of the alleged links between Al Qaeda and the Saudi human aid worker turned businessman.

“Those who make this accusation should provide convincing evidence,” Prince Naif told the press here when asked about Friday’s US decision to freeze Julaidan’s assets.

On Friday the US Treasury Department said, “Today the United States and Saudi Arabia jointly designated Wael Hamza Julaidan, an associate of Osama Bin Laden and a supporter of Al Qaeda terror. Consequently his assets were frozen.”

Commenting on the subject Prince Naif said, “Our cooperation with other countries will be on the basis of facts, with regard to arrest of individuals or freezing of their assets.” Prince Naif reiterated Riyadh’s commitment to implement UN resolution that calls for freezing the assets of terror suspects.

Earlier Prince Nawaf, the Saudi intelligence chief expressed his surprise at the US decision.

“I hope the report is untrue because it would be unfortunate if a Saudi businessman was assisting and funding terrorism,” the Saudi intelligence chief told the Okaz daily.
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« Reply #126 on: March 03, 2017, 09:29:14 AM »
15. In or about October 1993,JAYYOUSI opened a bank account in the name of the "Islamic Group."

17. On or about February 4, 1995, JA YYOUSI and DAHER discussed setting up a for- profit business to fund jihad, "[Tlhis business, the profit generated from this business will be for the brothers, I mean we have to support the mujahideen brother," and DAHER then described his organization, the Canadian Islamic Association, as a "cover, 1mean it's very good."

18. On or about March 2 1, 1995, HASSOUN participated in a coded conversation with JAYYOUSI and DAHER, in which HASSOUN stressed that "we have a number of people active in the field," and then stated, "All of us are in a chain, if one link of the chain is separated, the movement will not function," and that this concept is particularly important in the field of "tourism."

21. On or about August 2, 1995, HASSOUN caused to be issued a $5,000 check to the American Worldwide Relief Organization with the memo line stating, "for brothers."

39. On or about November 30, 1996, Unindicted Coconspirator #l, calling from Turkey, participated in a conversation with an individual in the United States, and told the individual to instruct HASSOUN not to talk over the phone about these matters, "not even in code . . . tourism and such."

http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/588.pdf

I wonder who Unindicted Coconspirator l is.
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« Reply #127 on: March 10, 2017, 09:48:55 AM »
FBI release of documents - related to its secret 2014-2015 9/11 Review Commission - contain about 1,000 pages that were declassified yet are shot through with blanked-out words, sentences, paragraphs, even entire pages.

On the other hand, a partially declassified Memorandum for the Record (MFR) regarding an April 23, 2014 FBI briefing about its 9/11 investigation mentions a startling request for information to the FBI that day:

“The commissioners requested a list of evidence that shows it was actually a plane that crashed into the Pentagon,” the memo says.

Why did the Meese Commission make such a curious request? Did the FBI provide such a list?

http://www.floridabulldog.org/2017/03/fbi-censored-documents-to-protect-privacy-of-accused-911-mastermind/
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #128 on: March 12, 2017, 08:19:10 AM »
There was a terror cell already in the area before the Blind Sheikh arrived:

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The sheikh then moved entirely to the El Salaam Mosque in Jersey City. The
founder of the mosque is Sultan Ibraham El Gawli, a wealthy 55-year-old
Egyptian businessman who was convicted by a federal jury in July 1986 for
conspiring to export 150 pounds of C-4 plastic explosives to Israel for use
by the PLO in a Christmas bombing. El Gawli, who sports a full, white Santa
Claus beard, served 18 months in prison before returning to Jersey City.
He often marched in front of the courthouse during Nosair's trial, carrying
banners with fierce anti-Israel slogans. "It's no crime praying together,
is it?" El Gawli asked me when I questioned him about his friendship with
Nosair.

It was the infiltrator Mamdouh Zaki Zakhary who helped U.S. Customs set up
the sting operation that netted El Gawli. Zakhary , a frail man afflicted
with blindness in one eye and a large goiter on his neck, wore a wire into
El Galwi's office at a travel agency he owned, Sultan Travel, recording
five incriminating conversations.

"Sultan El Gawli was the brains behind the terror cell at the mosque," says
Zakhary . "There were lots of meetings in his office. He also got foreign
money from the PLO and Iran. Many times he entertained and was visited by
officials from Saudi Arabia, the PLO, and Iran."
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« Reply #129 on: March 12, 2017, 09:17:19 AM »
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In Egypt, Abdel Rahman's name lives in infamy for his role in the October
6, 1981, assassination of Anwar Sadat, who was cut down in a hail of
grenade and automatic-weapons fire while he reviewed a military parade. In
1980, Abdel Rahman had issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that called
Sadat an infidel for turning his back on Islam and for making peace with
Israel. This made Sadat a prime target for assassination, an act eventually
executed by the operational arm of Abdel Rahman's organization, Al Gamaat
al Islamia, which had penetrated the Egyptian army and security services.

During a tumultuous trial in which the defendants publicly charged they had
been tortured by police interrogators, the sheikh was acquitted. The
sheikh, who continued to agitate against the Egyptian government while his
followers carried on a campaign of lethal bombings, was imprisoned for
three months in 1985, for one month in 1986, and for four months in 1989.
He finally left his homeland in 1990, saying, "It was too much for me."

After brief stays in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, the sheikh slipped into
Pakistan, where he forged operational links with mujahedeen strongman
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, the head of a radical Afghan Islamic fundamentalist
army that was being covertly backed by the CIA. According to Stephen Van
Evera, an affiliate of Harvard's Center for Science and International
Affairs, Hekmatyar "strongly chastised the United States and its 'immoral'
society, even while Washington lavished him with aid." In Hekmatyar's
guerrilla training camps, American advisers taught everything from using
explosives to shooting down enemy planes with shoulder-held Stinger
missiles.
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« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2017, 09:27:29 AM »
Almost no information online about 'Sultan Ibraham El Gawli'
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2017, 12:50:11 PM »
Almost no information online about 'Sultan Ibraham El Gawli'


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Convicted ... He was released Oct 1990, [ 5 years of a possible 20 ! ] , a month before Kahane's assassination .  ( son of New York zionist rabbi )


yes: NYT 1985  ...


http://www.nytimes.com/1985/12/19/nyregion/jersey-city-travel-agent-is-seized-in-scheme-to-smuggle-explosives.html
JERSEY CITY TRAVEL AGENT IS SEIZED IN SCHEME TO SMUGGLE EXPLOSIVES
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Published: December 19, 1985

NEWARK, Dec. 18— The owner of a Jersey City travel agency was arrested today and charged with conspiring to smuggle 150 pounds of explosives to a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, a customs agent said.

The suspect, Sultan Ibrahim El Gawli, 47 years old, was arrested in Jersey City at 4 P.M. by United States customs agents.

He is scheduled to be arraigned in Federal court Thursday on charges of murder for hire, dealing in explosives without a license, exportation without a licence and the conspiracy charge, said a customs spokesman, Michael Kaufman.

Mr. Gawli is a naturalized United States citizen who was born in Egypt and now lives in Jersey City, where he operates the Sultan Travel Agency.

Two-Month Investigation

He is accused of attempting to purchase, 150 pounds of C-4 explosives, 100 blasting caps, remote electrical detonating devices with a 500-yard range and a gun with a silencer, according to Mr. Kaufman, who said that the arrest followed a two-month investigation.

According to Mr. Kaufman, the explosives and gun were to be smuggled to the Israeli-occupied West Bank and delivered to a co-conspirator, who ''represented himself as a P.L.O. representative.''

Mr. Gawli agreed to pay $25,000 for the explosives and $1,500 for the gun and silencer, but the goods did not change hands, according to Mr. Kaufman.


The C-4 explosive is manufactured in the United States basically for military purposes and looks like a gray clay, Mr. Kaufman said. #150-Pound Block The 150-pound block was a foot long, 2 inches wide and three-quarters of an inch thick, and easily transported, Mr. Kaufman said.

Mr. Kaufman said one of the co-conspirators planned to put the explosives in his luggage, take it on an airplane flight out of the United States and carry it to the West Bank.

A special customs agent, Art Stiffel, charged that the conspirators planned to have the explosive in Israel seven to 10 days before Christmas.

Mr. Gawli offered no resistance when arrested, Mr. Kaufman said. The suspect was being held Wednesday night at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City.

If convicted of the charges, the suspect would face a maximum of 20 years in prison and a $270,000 fine, Mr. Kaufman said.

http://www.jta.org/1990/11/15/archive/fbi-probing-arab-groups-for-ties-in-kahane-killing
Fbi Probing Arab Groups for Ties in Kahane Killing
November 15, 1990   

NEW YORK (Nov. 14)

The FBI reportedly is investigating whether Moslem groups had any involvement with the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane.

The accused assassin, El-Sayyid Nosair, 34, appeared for a hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court on Tuesday to assess progress in the case, which was continued pending an indictment hearing next Wednesday.
...

Although New York police say he acted alone, the FBI is investigating Moslem groups associated with the New Jersey mosque where Nosair worshiped, according to The New York Times.

CONTACTS WITH RADICAL GROUPS

One such group is the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood, which has violently opposed the Egyptian government.

Nosair had contacts with such radical groups through the Masjid al-Salam mosque in Jersey City, N.J., the Times said.
...

The newspaper noted that one of the 300 to 400 worshippers at the mosque, Egyptian-born travel agent Sultan Ibrahim El Gawli, was once convicted of attempting to smuggle explosives and weaponry to the Palestine Liberation Organization for use in Israel.
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« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2017, 03:05:19 PM »
In mid-November 1992, Garrett Wilson, an FBI informant who sells military equipment and conducts paramilitary training, is contacted by someone named “Dr. Rashid.” Wilson had previously been contacted by Abu Ubaidah Yahya, the security chief at the Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, a charity front tied to both al-Qaeda and the CIA (see 1986-1993). Wilson’s FBI handlers are excited to learn about this because in June 1992, a “Dr. Rashid” had met with FBI informant Emad Salem and offered to supply bombs and guns (see Early July 1992). The FBI runs a background check and determines “Dr. Rashid” is really Clement Rodney Hampton-El, who works at a hospital in Long Island. The also learn from phone records that he has recently made calls to the “Blind Sheikh,” Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman.

The Yahya evidence

Abu Ubaidah Yahya is the security chief at the Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn. He is an ex-US Marine connected to numerous figures in the 1993 WTC bombing. On December 20, 1992, FBI informant Garrett Wilson meets with Yahya and Hampton-El. They tell him that they want him to train eight to ten men for an "international jihad battalion."

After the 93 WTC bombing, the FBI investigators begin monitoring Clement Rodney Hampton-El’s house in New York as they close in on the militants involved in the “Landmarks” plot. They listen in on a call from Hampton-El’s right-hand man, Abu Ubaidah Yahya, as he is in Vienna, Austria. Yahya is there picking up money from the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA).

Over the next few months, Yahya is tracked as he makes several trips from the US to Vienna, picking up about $100,000. Hampton-El had also been in Vienna earlier in the year, picking up more money from TWRA for the militants in the US tied to the Landmarks plot. TWRA is funneling a huge amount of weapons to Muslim Bosnia in violation of a UN embargo but with the tacit approval of the US. It also has ties to radical militants like bin Laden and Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman. The Washington Post will later report that, “Intelligence agencies say they have tapes of telephone calls by Abdul-Rahman to TWRA’s office.” The “Landmarks” bombers are closely associated with Abdul-Rahman and will be convicted along with him.

So who runs TWRA?

Sudanese man Elfatih Hassanein is the director. By mid-1991, Bosnian President Izetbegovic contacts Hassanein, who he has known since the 1970s. The two men agree to turn TWRA from an obscure charity into what the Washington Post will later call “the chief broker of black-market weapons deals by Bosnia’s Muslim-led government and the agent of money and influence in Bosnia for Islamic movements and governments around the world.” A banker in Vienna will later call Hassanein the “bagman” for Izetbegovic. “If the Bosnian government said we need flour, he ran after flour. If they said we need weapons, he ran after weapons.”

The TWRA is controlled by a committee composed of Hassanein and:
*Hasan Cengic.
*Irfan Ljevakovic.
*Husein Zivalj.
*Dervis Djurdjevic.

All of them are important members of Izetbegovic’s SDA party, and all but Ljevakovic were codefendants with Izetbegovic in an old 1983 trial.

Hasan Čengić is the former Deputy Prime Minister and Defense Minister of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. He is a member of a powerful clan headed by his father, Halid Čengić, the main logistics expert in the Bosnian Army and a senior official in Bosnia's intelligence agency.

The Saudi Connection

A United Nations-sponsored investigation also determined Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, “transferred in excess of $120 million from his personal accounts and Saudi High Commission accounts under his control to the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA)” from July 1992 to July 1995, the pleading says.

The 9/11 Commission identified Third World Relief as an al Qaeda front and pipeline for illegal arms shipments to al Qaeda fighters in the Balkans.

“The U.N. sponsored audit of the TWRA’s records suggested that the SHC’s lavish funding of TWRA commenced shortly after a personal meeting between Prince Salman and the head of the TWRA.
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« Reply #133 on: March 12, 2017, 07:06:12 PM »
This indictment of KSM mentions that Khalid bin Attash was in the air travelling around Dec31st, the day the FBI says he arrived at LAX. It also says he was teaching a false identity technique to conceal travel (16).

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15. In or about December 1999, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed directed Bin Attash to conduct a casing mission in support of the Planes Operation.KSM gave Bin 'Attash a razor knife to secrete on his person while traveling in order to assess airline security measures. Khallad Bin Attash carried this knife on flights to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Bangkok, Thailand, and Hong Kong. On these flights, Khallad Bin Attash collected information on United States air carriers, such as the number of passengers on the flights that were in first class, business class, and economy class.

16. In or about December 1999, Khallad Bin 'Attash devised a scheme in order to assist Nawaf al Hazmi (AA #77) in traveling to the United States. In order to hide al Hazmi's previous travel to Pakistan, Khallad Bin Attash directed al Hazmi to purchase two different tickets for travel to Malaysia, one using a fraudulently-issued Yemeni passport, which masked his travel to Pakistan and Afghanistan on Hazmi's valid Saudi passport.

http://media.npr.org/documents/2012/may/referredcharges040412.pdf

It then describes his travel, supposedly under an alias:

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17. On or about December 30, 1999, Khallad Bin 'Attash (using the aliias Salah Saeed Mohammed BinYousaf), traveled from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Thailand, via Malaysia Airlines Flight #782 and stayed at the JW Marriott, five star hotel in Bangkok.

18. On or about December 31,1999, Khallad Bin 'Attash (using the Salah Saeed Mohammed Yusuf) traveled as a first-class passenger from Bangkok, Thailand, to Hong Kong, China, via United Airlines Flight #2 to conduct surveillance on airline security and collect information regarding air carriers for flights in Southeast Asia.

19. On or about January 1,2000, Khallad Bin 'Attash (using the aliasI Salah Saeed Mohammed Yusuf), traveled as a first-class passenger from Hong Kong, China, to Bangkok, Thailand, via United Airlines Flight #1 to conduct surveillance onlairline security and collect information regarding air carriers for flights in Southeast Asia

http://media.npr.org/documents/2012/may/referredcharges040412.pdf

If it is true that Khallad bin Attash came to the US on December 31st 1999, as an FBI document suggests, then somebody has gone to major lengths to cover it up.
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #134 on: March 15, 2017, 12:49:44 PM »
Third World Relief Agency had an office in Prague  -  http://rejstrik-firem.kurzy.cz/27041514/twra-third-world-relief-agency/

Didnt Mohamed Atta visit Prague?
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« Reply #135 on: March 15, 2017, 01:06:28 PM »
The Slobodna Bosna newspaper has argued that Čengić of TWRA is the business partner of Russian mobster, arms dealer and former KGB officer Viktor Bout, nicknamed "the Merchant of Death". In May 2006, when 200,000 AK-47 assault rifles went missing in transit from Bosnia to Iraq, one of Bout's airlines was the carrier.

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With guns, planes and money, Viktor Bout was allowed to fuel almost every major conflict of the past 15 years - until two journalists from the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times got on his tail. Within three months of their expose, Bout was busted in a Bangkok hotel. Here they reveal how he was caught and the collusion of Britain, the US and the UN that kept him in business for so long

Bout relied on a stack of passports and aliases, ran a shape-shifting corporation that employed scores of pilots and mechanics at his air hub in Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates and was sheltered by the influence of oligarchs and intelligence officials back  in Moscow.

ussian Ilyushin Il-76 and Antonov An-24 cargo planes began arriving with pallets piled with food, medical supplies and plastic sheeting. The planes were easily identified by the UN World Food Programme (WFP) logos on their tails. Piloted by veteran Ukrainian crews, they flew in day after day, ferrying tons of emergency staples for tens of thousands of refugees.
As he stood on the boiling Tarmac, the American found himself watching one of the mammoth Il-76s creak downward for a rocky landing. Having ground to a halt, the freighter lowered its rear door and the food parcels were offloaded. Oddly, the crew members brought out a ladder, set it against the tail, climbed up and removed a UN logo that gave the plane its official protection. The startled American continued watching as the crewmen then began loading the Ilyushin with crates of weapons.
‘I didn’t know those tail markings were magnetic, but I guess they were,’ recalled the official, who still works for the US Government. ‘Then guys in uniforms were moving quickly, taking good old-fashioned crates of AK-47s and ammunition on to it. When it was loaded up, it just took off. We don’t know where it went.’ The entire turnaround time was less than an hour.

Reporting the strange events at the airfield back to his superiors, the American soon learned that the plane – and its cargo of weapons – belonged to Viktor Bout. The Ilyushin had flown the food supplies into Kisangani under official UN auspices – and left with a load of weapons destined for parts unknown, most likely delivered to Rwandan troops on another battle front.

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« Reply #136 on: March 16, 2017, 12:18:16 PM »
Wolfowitz, CIA link to terror

Was Operation Greenquest shut down by powerful forces who had a lot to lose? Consider this.

While at the World Bank Rumsfeld entered into a relationship with a woman of Libyan/Syrian extraction, named Shaha Riza.

When Wolfowitz was considered for head of the CIA after the 2000 election, Clare Wolfowitz wrote President-elect George Bush a letter telling him that her husband's relationship with a foreign national—Riza—posed a national security risk.

In 2006 a man named Anwar Ibrahim, a friend of Wolfowitz and powerful Malaysian politician who had been convicted of sodomy, specifically requested Riza to come and run an organisation called 'Foundation for the Future.' The request letter gave a phone number 703-464-5161 that resolves to 585 Grove St Herndon VA 20170.

This is the building next door to the 555 Grove street address which was at the centre of the post 9/11 terrorism financing investigation, as well as the central focus of the Operation Greenquest raids.

There were allegations at the time of a coverup in the Greenquest investigation.
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Some ICE agents reported to us highly negative views and significant misinformation about JTTF handling of terrorist financing cases under the MOA. In our interviews ICE agents told us that:
• The FBI-led JTTF does not actively pursue terrorist financing cases that transfer to the JTTF 
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/OIG_07-55_Jul07.pdf

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« Reply #137 on: March 16, 2017, 12:34:37 PM »
Riza's previous husband is Turkish, Bulent Aliriza is the founding director of the Turkey Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, DC.

After they moved to America, Shaha worked for the Iraq Foundation, set up by expatriates to overthrow Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. She subsequently joined the National Endowment for Democracy.

Bulent Riza said Shaha started to "talk to Paul" about reforming the Middle East.

Sibel Edmonds
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EDMONDS: They had arrangements with various companies, some of them members of the American Turkish Council.

The monitoring of the Turks picked up contacts with Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle in the summer of 2001, four months before 9/11. They were discussing with the Turkish ambassador in Washington an arrangement whereby the U.S. would invade Iraq and divide the country. The UK would take the south, the rest would go to the U.S. They were negotiating what Turkey required in exchange for allowing an attack from Turkish soil. The Turks were very supportive, but wanted a three-part division of Iraq to include their own occupation of the Kurdish region. The three Defense Department officials said that would be more than they could agree to, but they continued daily communications to the ambassador and his defense attaché in an attempt to convince them to help.

Nothing was decided, and then 9/11 took place.
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« Reply #138 on: March 16, 2017, 12:39:08 PM »
"While at the World Bank Rumsfeld entered into a relationship..."

Obviously i mean Wolfowitz. I am sorry, I get the two mixed up
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More from Sibel on this network

GIRALDI: You also have information on al-Qaeda, specifically al-Qaeda in Central Asia and Bosnia. You were privy to conversations that suggested the CIA was supporting al-Qaeda in central Asia and the Balkans, training people to get money, get weapons, and this contact continued until 9/11…

EDMONDS: I don’t know if it was CIA. There were certain forces in the U.S. government who worked with the Turkish paramilitary groups, including Abdullah Çatli’s group, Fethullah Gülen. So these conversations, between 1997 and 2001, had to do with a Central Asia operation that involved bin Laden. Not once did anybody use the word “al-Qaeda.” It was always “mujahideen,” always “bin Laden” and, in fact, not “bin Laden” but “bin Ladens” plural. There were several bin Ladens who were going on private jets to Azerbaijan and Tajikistan. The Turkish ambassador in Azerbaijan worked with them.

There were bin Ladens, with the help of Pakistanis or Saudis, under our management. Marc Grossman was leading it, 100 percent, bringing people from East Turkestan into Kyrgyzstan, from Kyrgyzstan to Azerbaijan, from Azerbaijan some of them were being channeled to Chechnya, some of them were being channeled to Bosnia. From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back.

GIRALDI: Was the U.S. government aware of this circular deal?

EDMONDS: 100 percent. A lot of the drugs were going to Belgium with NATO planes. After that, they went to the UK, and a lot came to the U.S. via military planes to distribution centers in Chicago and Paterson, New Jersey. Turkish diplomats who would never be searched were coming with suitcases of heroin.
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Q:  One of the things that it indicates in your biographical information is that you’ve made certain allegations. Some of them we’ve talked about a little bit, and I wanted to ask you about some of the others.

One of the entries indicates nuclear secrets black market, and it says, “Edmonds alleges that in the course of her work for the government she found evidence that the FBI, State Department and Pentagon had been infiltrated by a Turkish and Israeli run intelligence network that paid high ranking American officials to steal nuclear weapons secrets,” and they have some footnotes for that, some cites.
Is that correct that you’ve made those allegations?

A:  That information is correct, and if ever -- you can get, I would say, those government organizations and others. There’s another place missing there. They list the State Department itself, but there is one other place that’s missing.

Q:  And what is that place?

A:  That would be RAND Corporation.

http://ariwatch.com/Links/SibelEdmondsDeposition2009.htm

Remember how Aaron Russo said Nicholas Rockefeller of Rand Corp warned him about 9/11. Caus I do.
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« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2017, 02:35:29 PM »


The Reason Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son were murdered by drones?

I think I know who could be the name on the mastercard holding the room for Hazmi and Mihdhar/ AKA Abdullah and Abdallah....Benomrane describes "a yemeni" a few times in his interview, and the Yemeni knows more....


Benomrane wasn't supposed to chauffer the Saudis, until "a Yemeni" was price-gouging Thumairy...

"...he had already heard at that point that two Saudis had come to town, and were met at LAX by someone unknown to Benomrane."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

"He went on to describe a Yemeni, who was unknown to him, who was supposed to shepaerd around the 2 young Saudis before Benomrane met them."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

This makes a likely suspect...

Anwar Al-Awlaki is the former leader of the Masjid Ar-Ribat al-Islami mosque on Saranac Street on the border of San Diego and La Mesa, which was attended regularly by the hijackers and their acquaintances.
http://legacy.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation/terror/20030725-9999_1n25report.html

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The gunman who allegedly killed four Marines and a Navy sailor last week in Chattanooga, Tennessee, had downloaded audio recordings of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-Yemeni cleric who was a recruiter for al Qaeda, law enforcement officials told NBC News.

http://southern251.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=8725915&item=19462

If it's true - Anwar could blurt this out at anytime. But that's been taken care of..... thanks to this guy.....

David Jeremiah Barron

In 2010, he authored a secret memo which provided the legal foundation for President Obama's unprecedented decision to order a drone strike on Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen who was a radical Islamic militant living in Yemen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jeremiah_Barron

Only a Harvard Scholar would know that killing American citizens with nothing but a secret memo as evidence of whatever it is they get killed for, is perfectly legal and constitutional. "Creating" a memo like that deserves a promotion...

On September 24, 2013, President Obama nominated Barron to serve as a United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit

On May 22, 2014, the Senate voted 53–45 for final confirmation to the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jeremiah_Barron

This Detective should be asked what they know of Abdulluh/Abdallah...

"Detective Gizzi from the LAPD ran the leads at the LAX Hilton. They met with negative results."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

This Det. Gizzi is probably where D Snell knew to ask for names Abdullah and Abddallah in his subpoena.......

SUBPOENA
To Hilton Hotels Corporation

ATTACHMENT A

The checkout folio for Said Abdullah, who checked out of the Hilton hotel at Los Angeles Airport on January 16, 2000; and


The checkout folio for Said Abdallah, who checked out of the Hilton hotel at Los Angeles Airport on January 16, 2000.
https://www.scribd.com/document/14553330/SD-B4-Supoenas-Sepulveda-Fdr-Hilton-Letter-and-Subpoena-Re-Said-Abdullah-094

Gizzi checked the names on the Hilton at LAX....

"Detective Gizzi from the LAPD ran the leads at the LAX Hilton. They met with negative results."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

He/She might/should know/knew the name on the mastercard.

3 most likely suspects for name on mastercard IMO...

Thumairy
Anwar Al-Awlaki 
"by someone from the Saudi Consulate in LA"
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

How about this name on the mastercard gets declassified and we find out that I'm wrong.
I'd be fine with that-this name that is holding this room should not be hidden if it's helping the hijackers. It should be revealed whoever it is.

I think you might be right actually.

"had already heard at that point that two Saudis had come to town, and were met at LAX by someone unknown to Benomrane"

IF, Aulaqi took them to the King Fahd mosque, for example, where they would later meet Omar al-Bayoumi.

THEN, it would fit the same behaviour pattern as the Eyad al-Rababah/Daoud Chehazeh story from Virginia, which definitely was Aulaqi.

Maybe you have inside info, idk, but you are right a lot and i can definitely see how this could have been Aulaqi.
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« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2017, 03:17:53 PM »
In the late 1990s, Awlaki was approached by an al-Qaeda facilitator known as Ziyad Khaleel, who performed simple tasks for the terror network, for example paying for a satellite phone to be used by Osama bin Laden. Khaleel and Awlaki were both connected to a Yemeni charity, founded by an associate of bin Laden. Awlaki served as its vice president for a time.

Awlaki also had repeated contacts with an associate of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind Egyptian sheikh whose whose fiery anti-American sermons inspired the terrorist cell responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. In January 2000, an Egyptian member of Rahman's Islamic Group visited Awlaki's mosque, where he met with the young preacher.

All of this activity led the FBI to open an investigation in to Awlaki in June 1999, the details of which remain classified. What we do know is that the investigation was closed in March of 2000 -- mere days after Awlaki and his followers had met Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, two of the five al-Qaeda operatives who would crash American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/anwar-al-awlakis-links-to-the-september-11-hijackers/244796/

If what I am saying is true, this (still secret?) FBI investigation overlapped with the hijackers way more than a few days
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« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2017, 06:12:44 PM »
"We do not know how or when Hazmi and Mihdhar first met Aulaqi." - 9/11 Commission final report
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« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2017, 03:30:00 PM »
Statements in the 28 Pages directly conflict with post 9/11 news reports.

FBI officials testified to the inquiry that Saudis were not considered a national security threat prior to 9/11 as Saudi Arabia was a geo-strategic ally.

Yet Greg Palast reported for BBC Newsnight in November 2001 about FBI document 199-Eye WF, discussing the activities of a prominent Saudi in the US. In that document 199-Eye stands for National Security, Palast says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm
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« Reply #145 on: March 20, 2017, 07:22:29 PM »
The 28 Pages mention the al-Haraman Foundation and this would seem to be an unexplored area by us as yet.
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« Reply #146 on: March 21, 2017, 06:15:19 AM »
This document is about why the US did not act on the Haramain Foundation:
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/staff_statements/911_TerrFin_Ch7.pdf

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Other areas of U.S. policy involving the Saudis took precedence over terrorist-financing issues such as those concerning al Haramain. The U.S. government wanted the Saudis to support the Middle East peace process, ensure the steady flow of oil, cut off support to the Taliban, continue various mutually beneficial economic arrangements, and assist in the containment of Iraq. Given these other interests, stopping the money flow to terrorists was not a top priority in the U.S.-Saudi relationship.

Saudi policy was formulated at a very high level in the U.S. government. During the late 1990s, the U.S.-Saudi relationship was handled primarily by the U.S. government’s most senior officials, including the secretaries of key departments (collectively referred to as the “Principals”), and often even by the President alone. This situation reflected the significance of the U.S. interests involved, considerable Saudi ties to senior U.S. officials, and U.S. willingness to accede to the strong Saudi preference for bypassing the U.S. bureaucracy.
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« Reply #147 on: March 24, 2017, 08:15:17 PM »
I think you might be right actually.

"had already heard at that point that two Saudis had come to town, and were met at LAX by someone unknown to Benomrane"

IF, Aulaqi took them to the King Fahd mosque, for example, where they would later meet Omar al-Bayoumi.

THEN, it would fit the same behaviour pattern as the Eyad al-Rababah/Daoud Chehazeh story from Virginia, which definitely was Aulaqi.

Maybe you have inside info, idk, but you are right a lot and i can definitely see how this could have been Aulaqi.

Yes- whether it is Aulaqi who paid for the Hilton Hotel room or not he makes a likely suspect for the following reasons...

From
Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington
by Paul Sperry


Yet, according to law-enforcement documents I obtained, the government let the imam--Sheikh Anwar N. al-Aulaqi-leave the country after 9/11 on a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight-despite a federal warrant for his arrest in connection to a terrorist-financing investigation headed by the U.S. Department of Treasury. -page XIX
https://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595550038/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Binalshibh was in phone and email contact with Basnan, in SD in Sept 2000, and this book says Binalshibh also had the phone number to Aulaqi's Mosque in SD.

Benomrane is important. He is the reason an investigation was opened on Thumairy. These entire contents were classified until late 2014...

https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

He describes a Yemeni unknown to him who was originally the driver for the "Saudis". He also claims "the Saudis" stayed at the Hilton Hotel when arriving at LA. He further claims they stayed at the Avalon apartments at 3636 Sepulveda blvd. Thumairy was questioned about these apartments and cannot explain why there are several leased in his name. He also lied and claimed he moved there in 2002. He lies about performing the marriage ceremony of Hazmi's employer at the Gas station. 

Thumairy interview...
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610850

Avalon Apartments...Less than a mile from where they met Bayoumi...

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/3636+South+Sepulveda+Boulevard,+Los+Angeles,+CA/10863+Venice+Blvd,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034/@34.0169252,-118.4233445,15z/am=t/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c2ba49022c2e05:0xef7fe303d5ec69b6!2m2!1d-118.4190846!2d34.0164037!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c2ba374c8178e1:0x6f680c09334ba298!2m2!1d-118.4108167!2d34.016914

The 9-11 commission said they do not know where they stayed while in LA. <---Lie Cover up

I believe the following documents show that Hazmi and Mihdhar using the surprisingly stupid aliases Said Abdallah and Said Abdullah, stayed at the Hilton Hotel in room 1777, just as Benomrane previously stated to the FBI.

Subpoena...

https://www.scribd.com/document/14553330/SD-B4-Supoenas-Sepulveda-Fdr-Hilton-Letter-and-Subpoena-Re-Said-Abdullah-094

Results(room paid for by mastercard-name redacted)...

https://www.scribd.com/document/18662012/T1A-B43-Hilton-Subpoena-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Subpoena-Faxes-Guest-Folio-Said-Abdullah-See-SD-B4-Subpoenas-for-Unredacted

Benomrane mentions throughout his interview an unknown (to him) Yemeni. I believe it is possible that the credit card that paid for Abdullah/abdallah was Anwar Aulaqi's, since he was Yemeni and Benomrane was in LA, while Aulaqi was in SD. Aulaqi later meeting the same hijackers on the East coast.

This would explain in a sick sinister way why he was murdered without charges by Obama. He literally could not get arrested as surveillance reports describe his numerous encounters with prostitutes, and he at times driving over 90 mph.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/awlaki-fbi-file

He is directly connected to the Saudi Gov....

the government let the imam--Sheikh Anwar N. al-Aulaqi-leave the country after 9/11 on a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight

Awlaki worked closely with the Saudi Embassy. He lectured at a Saudi Islamic think tank in Merrifield, Va., chaired by Bandar. Saudi travel itinerary documents I’ve obtained show he also served as the ­official imam on Saudi Embassy-sponsored trips to Mecca and tours of Saudi holy sites.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/

Anyone thinking that I'm "pinning it all on Saudi Arabia" is mistaken. It's obvious they were partners with traitors in the U.S. Government , or there would be no need for such a disgusting cover up.

The name on this credit card needs to be revealed. Not remained covered up.
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Aulaqi had an indirect link to Ramzi Yousef. There was an individual in Herndon, who was connected to the SAFA Group, and was the subject of a Greenquest investigation, with whom both Aulaqi and Yousef were in contact.

This is from FBI agent Wade Ammerman's interview.

Who might this be?
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Aulaqi had an indirect link to Ramzi Yousef. There was an individual in Herndon, who was connected to the SAFA Group, and was the subject of a Greenquest investigation, with whom both Aulaqi and Yousef were in contact.


This is from FBI agent Wade Ammerman's interview.

Who might this be?

SAAR is alternatively referred to as the Safa Group.
SAAR was named after the patriarch of the wealthy Saudi Arabian al-Rajhi family, who are also the foundation’s largest donors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAAR_Foundation

Could be Jamal Barzinji

I will refer to the web of companies and charities controlled by these individuals as the “Safa Group.

To a large extent, the present investigation has built on the findings of an investigation previously conducted with respect to these individuals between 1998 and 2000 by the USCS, the FBI, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service (“INS”), for suspicion of the same violations.


The Residence of Barzinji at 11919 Safa Court, Herndon, Virginia 11919 Safa Court in Herndon is the residence of Jamal Barzinji, an officer and/or director of Safa Group companies, including Mar-Jac Poultry, Inc., Mena Investments, Inc., Reston Investments, Inc., and Safa Trust. --page 5/107
https://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/891.pdf

Jamal Barzinji: Original trustee holding title to Dar al-Hijrah .....He served as president of MSA
https://books.google.com/books?id=VJj8voB723YC&pg=PA287#v=onepage&q&f=false

Aulaqi:

For a decade, Dar al-Hijrah has been haunted by its association with Aulaqi, who was the imam at the Falls Church
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/anwar-al-aulaqis-death-reopens-wounds-for-dar-al-hijrah-mosque-in-falls-church/2011/09/30/gIQAFUSJAL_story.html?utm_term=.fb5bedddb2ef

Yusuf Siddiqui, a fellow student who was active with Mr. Awlaki in the mosque and the Muslim Student Association...
...He ran successfully for president of the Muslim Student Association
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/world/09awlaki.html

Not aware of his connections to Ramzi Yousef but haven't really looked into it

If it's not Barzinji, it's someone else on this list...
https://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/891.pdf

Where is this interview with Wade A.?
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« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2017, 08:47:16 AM »
"Where is this interview with Wade A.?"
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610066

I was looking at another Iraqi, Tarik Hamdi, as he delivered a CIA bugged battery to Osama in Afghanistan.

It is clear to me now that those people associating with Aulaqi in Virginia are CIA.

The Virginia network connects the 9/11 ops on the west coast with the east coast, and with Sami al Arian in Florida.

Sami ran PIJ a middle eastern terrorist organisation. He was also at North Carolina Agricultural college when KSM happened to show up there in the mid 80s.
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« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2017, 10:41:15 AM »
A number of the Green Quest targets have ties to Al Taqwa

According to History Commons, which i can no longer verify, Ahmed Huber of Al Taqwa called the 9/11 attacks “counterterror against American-Israeli terror,” the World Trade Center a “the Twin Towers of the godless,” and the Pentagon “a symbol of Satan,”

Why is the CIA working with these people?
Why is Paul Wolfowitz and PNAC working with these people?

The Al Taqwa is apperntly Arabic for "Fear of God." It was set up in 1988 by prominent members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Later, Swiss Islamic convert Ahmed Huber, a vocal admirer of Adolf Hitler, was hired. Another co-founder was François Genoud, one of the key managers of Nazi assets after the second world war who later attained notoriety as the publisher of Joseph Goebbels' diaries.
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2017, 11:50:16 AM »
Another one, François Genoud, appears to have spent decades safely ensconced in Switzerland, funding leftist terror attacks around the world. Despite being a top Nazi before this.
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« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2017, 12:27:49 PM »
In the 1960s Genoud began supplying arms for Palestinian causes. The Lausanne-based New European Order organisation, met in Barcelona in April 1969 where Palestinian groups received financial support and Genoud placed them in contact with former Nazis who would assist their military training

The New European Order (NEO) was a neo-fascist, Europe-wide alliance set up in 1951 to promote Pan-European nationalism. It was a more radical splinter group of the European Social Movement.

During a 1997 hearing before the Commission on terrorism headed by senator Giovanni Pellegrino, Stefano Delle Chiaie went on speaking about a "black fascist International" and his hopes of creating the conditions of an "international revolution." In this context he talked about the World Anti-Communist League and admitted having taken part in the New European Order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francois_Genoud

I wonder if this is going to end up involving Bilderberg, because this is all to do with the post war European order.
WACL has come up before, through a key part of Al Qaeda called Benevolence.
Stefano Delle Chiaie was part of Gladio
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #154 on: March 27, 2017, 10:34:28 AM »
A man named George Harb is mentioned in 9/11 documents as a lead on a muslim in San Diego. Looking up Harb, i think he is an apartment manager from Wilshire Blvd LA. His address there is next door to an Iranian run English school that was acting illegally, named Concord. And that this English school also appears in 911 documents, where it seems to be where Qualid Benomrane stayed on arrival in the US

I had previous not recognised the importance of Wilshire Blvd. Only Culver City, Venice Blvd, Sepulveda and the Consulate.
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« Reply #155 on: March 27, 2017, 10:44:42 AM »
Concord also appears here - http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-05-24-FBI-FD302-redacted-Santa-Monica-jail.pdf - which has the Benomarne file reference.
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« Reply #156 on: March 27, 2017, 10:59:36 AM »
Dae Woo Nam, a business partner of Dr Osman Kaldirim (Dr Othman?), used an address just across Wilshire from the other two addresses, to run a hotel company from.
Osman Kaldirim is tied to HLFs Ghassan Elashi by an industrial estate in Torrance.
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #157 on: March 27, 2017, 04:43:55 PM »
New York City FBI Agents Considered Filing Charges on Tampa's Osama ‘Sam’ Mustafa for Providing ‘Material Support’ to 9/11 Hijackers. On September 24th, 2012 FBI Agents in New York City considered potential charges for Osama ‘Sam’ Mustafa for providing ‘Material Support’ to the 9/11 hijackers while in San Diego CA. The 2012 FBI report takes a longer look at Mohdar Abdullah, who “played a key role facilitating the daily lives and assisting future Flight 77 hijackers.”

Osama Sam Mustafa Admits in an Email he Told 'Fed's They Deserved 9/11' but continues to denies Links to Terrorism

OSAMA SAM MUSTAFA RESPONDS YESTERDAY:
 -----Original Message-----
From: sam mustafa <smust41@hotmail.com>
 To: Bill Warner  <wbipi@verizon.net>
 Sent: Sun, Mar 26, 2017 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: this conversation will be published:

You know Warner you keep going with your false information. Here in this email I see your giving the impression I was almost indicted. You even make it in read to give it some kind of credibility. I searched for this story all over and found nothing. I have no idea what potential proof they would have had for this nonsense. What were they going to tell the jury my name is Osama and therefore that makes his a terrorist or maybe he was exercising his first amendment to free speech when he told the Feds they deserved 9-11. That's all the proof they had you moron. I had zero to do with any terrorism. I would have countered with the fact I came alone without an attorney to tell them that one of the potential hijakers may have worked for me prior to 9-11 by at least a year. I would've subpoenaed the recordings of my interview with the FBI agents in San Diego where you can clearly see me offering to take polygraphs , where I gave them permission to search my home while I sat in there office and I also offered to allow them to take all my computers to check them out and all this you stupid racist pig without them having to get a search warrant and without me getting in touch with any attorney. The record will show they never took me up on any of my offers. So that piece you added you just made up once again but I got to hand it to you it looks authentic. I wish they would have charged me but they knew there case was silly and that's why they resorted to the so called 17 million sham of a trail. To them they got enough years to make sure I died in prison without having to prove any terrorism links which I have zero of. They don't realize on the day of judgement they will pay for there despicable crimes
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #158 on: March 27, 2017, 05:34:19 PM »
A character known as 'Sabah J Alwaan/Alwan' ties Sammy Mustafa to Kifay Jayyousi's American Worldwide Relief cell in San Diego. Jayyousi was obviously indicted with Benevolence and Padilla. Members of Benevolence knew the Hamburg Cell back in Germany.

Jayyousis partner Mohamed Zaky died in Chechnya in 1995. He had been very popular in Boston jihadist circles and had his own connections to Florida. Looking at background checks i somehow gained the impression he may be tied to the Frazier family who owned Shuckums Oyster bar in Hollywood Fl. But that cant be right because we would know about it by now.
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Re: Declassified:Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #159 on: March 27, 2017, 09:59:13 PM »
A man named George Harb is mentioned in 9/11 documents as a lead on a muslim in San Diego. Looking up Harb, i think he is an apartment manager from Wilshire Blvd LA. His address there is next door to an Iranian run English school that was acting illegally, named Concord.


Harb received a call from Bayoumi's phone on 2/15/2000 shortly after Hazmi and Mihdhar arrive in SD. When Harb returned the call Hazmi answered the phone. This means the hijackers were using Bayoumi's phone during this time. Which means even a keystone cop would know to scrutinize the calls on this phone and yet the calls on his phone were never investigated despite FBI agents wanting to do their job-they were prevented. Yes-he is a manager of an apartment building. You know the address of his apartment building he was managing? I know someone that has been trying to locate him, if he's still around.

Source:
page 3/4
https://www.scribd.com/document/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

Concord also appears here - http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-05-24-FBI-FD302-redacted-Santa-Monica-jail.pdf - which has the Benomarne file reference.
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If you're asking who this is about it's Qualid Benomrane. He had 3 interviews, and changes his story slightly in each. He and Thumairy should have gotten their stories of a sick father better coordinated, because they don't match.
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