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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2016, 05:58:22 PM »
You can't apply traditional right-wing / left-wing thinking to the new alt-right designation.  If you read the various definitions of alt-right you see that "anarchists" are members of the group, according to some.  I've never met a conservative anarchist in my life.  Anarchists are far-left.  Political and economic beliefs have nothing to do with the alt-right designation.

Alt-right is nebulous, intentionally so.  And it is a work in progress.  It will become the next al qeada, which changed into ISIS or ISIL or IS or...where'd that group go?  And ANYONE could be a member of alt-right.  For Hillary Clinton the group consists of her opposition--Republican and right-wing types.  For Republicans it will come to mean something else.

The ultimate determination will be whether you're opposed to federalized government.  If you challenge the power structure in any way, then you'll be alt-right.  Cops will get a call to deal with an alt-right disturbance, and they'll go in picturing the KKK or Black Lives Matter or home schoolers...whatever they've been brainwashed to think.  We are witnessing the creation, from scratch, of a new bogeyman organization.

I agree that the 'alt-right' designation is nebulous, but the 'right' part of the designation does refer to the traditional right.

If Bernie Sander secretly believed that 9/11 and OKC were inside jobs, and that the CIA run ISIS, this would not catapault him from the left to the alt-right. The same applies to Tarpley - someone with his views on social/economic/taxation policy could not be realistically be associated with a political designation with the word 'right' in it.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2016, 02:45:03 PM »
Melania Trump Files Defamation Suit Against Daily Mail, Political Blog

Melania Trump filed a lawsuit against the Daily Mail and a Maryland political blogger on Thursday for publishing "false and tremendously damaging" statements claiming the would-be first lady previously worked as an "escort," according to court documents and her lawyer.

Trump sued Mail Media, Inc. which publishes the Daily Mail, as well as Webster Griffin Tarpley, who runs the blog Tarpley.net, in a lawsuit filed in the state circuit court of Montgomery County, Maryland.

"These defendants made several statements about Mrs. Trump that are 100% false and tremendously damaging to her personal and professional reputation," lawyer Charles Harder said in a statement. "Their many lies include, among others, that Mrs. Trump supposedly was an 'escort' in the 1990s before she met her husband."

Harder famously represented Hulk Hogan in his lawsuit against Gawker Media, which eventually led to the site shutting down.

The lawsuit cites an article on Tarpley.net that alleged that Melania Trump worked as a "high-end escort" and suffered from a "full-blown nervous breakdown" after the Republican convention, as well as an article published on the Daily Mail website referencing similar claims.

The suit says Trump is going after both publications for "in excess of $75,000" but Harder said in his statement that the "Defendants' actions are so egregious, malicious and harmful to Mrs. Trump that her damages are estimated at $150 million dollars."

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/melania-trump-files-defamation-suit-against-daily-mail-political-blog-n641771

Tarpley replied:

Melania Trump’s lawsuit against me is without merit. Mrs. Trump is a public figure actively engaged in the Trump for president campaign. We are confident that Mrs. Trump will not be able to meet her high burden of proving the statements published about her on my website were defamatory in any way. Her lawsuit is a blatant attempt to intimidate not only me but journalists of all stripes into remaining silent with regard to public figures. This lawsuit is a direct affront to First Amendment principles and free speech in our democratic society.
—Webster G. Tarpley

http://tarpley.net/

I don't know, Webster.  Calling her a hooker...doesn't require a high burden of proof.  Good luck.  150 million.  Damn.

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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2016, 02:49:12 PM »
When you sleep with the devil, you're bound to catch fire.

Tarpley just caught himself on fire.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2016, 04:42:23 PM »
When you sleep with the devil, you're bound to catch fire.

Tarpley just caught himself on fire.

Serves him right for being an insult-spewing attack dog for war criminal, whore of Wall Street, pathological liar and all-around psychopath, Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2016, 05:51:34 PM »
Serves him right for being an insult-spewing attack dog for war criminal, whore of Wall Street, pathological liar and all-around psychopath, Hillary Clinton.

An attack dog for Hillary? That's a simplistic view, and faulty logic; attacking one side does not necessarily mean one is supporting the other side, although it may well separately benefit the other side. Tarpley was attacking Trump long before Hillary was the Dem nominee, and indeed long before Trump was the Rep nominee. So if anything he's a kind of independent attack dog, working for himself, who has a deep loathing for Trump and sees a Trump presidency as the worst possible outcome.

The fact is that he might be right about all of it, as he was about Obama.


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« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2016, 07:50:25 PM »
I just finished listening to Tarpley's weekly show.  He's certainly more subdued than he was a month ago.  A month ago he was frothing about Trump being a Nazi, a threat to humanity and so on.  None of that today.

He's basically been sidelined for the duration of the campaign.  He'll now have to self-censor everything he says about Trump because it might negatively impact "the lawsuit."  What a way to get slapped back to reality.  If it was attention he was after, he got it, but he'll be on a short leash for a while.

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« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2016, 08:34:17 PM »
I just finished listening to Tarpley's weekly show.  He's certainly more subdued than he was a month ago.  A month ago he was frothing about Trump being a Nazi, a threat to humanity and so on.  None of that today.

He's basically been sidelined for the duration of the campaign.  He'll now have to self-censor everything he says about Trump because it might negatively impact "the lawsuit."  What a way to get slapped back to reality.  If it was attention he was after, he got it, but he'll be on a short leash for a while.

I agree that he was much less forthcoming about his views on Trump in this weeks show. However what you call getting 'slapped back to reality', is in fact being bullied into silence by Trump; what a very sad day for the First Amendment. If Jones had been sued by Hillary for calling her the various epithets which flow freely day after day, everyone here would be screaming about free speech and the chilling effect and so on, and they'd be right..but no..Tarpley's now 'on a short leash' having been 'slapped back to reality'. 

I hope that Tarpley gets back on the horse, not because I necessarily agree with everything he says, but because I would not want anyone to be cowed by a bully like Trump. In Trump's speech in Arizona, he referred to America as the 'bully who keeps getting beat up', and he said 'that's gonna change believe me'. That's right, Trump wants America to be the bully who starts beating others up, and he's the guy to lead the way.

It's one thing if Americans want the US to be a larger version of the Atlantic City Taj, but wanting erosion of free speech, more protections for the rich and powerful as well as lower wages for the poorest, lower taxes for the richest, and so on..that's a serf's mentality.

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« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2016, 09:40:11 PM »
Tarpley needed to be slapped.  He called Trump's wife a hooker.  Them's litigation words.  Now, at least, he won't be doing Hillary Clinton's hatchetwork for a while.

The case will be dismissed after the election and that will be that.  No harm done to the First Amendment.  Let Tarpley call Melania Trump a whore from now to election day if he wants.  He has the right.  The lawsuit didn't remove his tongue.  But I expect he'll tone down the rhetoric.

Anyway, Tarpley wanted attention, and he got it.  Jones wanted attention, and he got it.  They GOT what they wanted, so I don't feel sorry for either of them.


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« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2016, 01:46:06 PM »
Tarpley needed to be slapped.  He called Trump's wife a hooker.  Them's litigation words. 

Wrong. Tarpley did not call Melania Trump a hooker or a whore or anything else. He, like hundreds of others in the media/ alt media, merely reported the claims being made, which may well be true.

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Now, at least, he won't be doing Hillary Clinton's hatchetwork for a while.

Wrong again. Tarpley has been attacking Trump for over a year, long before Clinton was his opponent. Whose hatchet man was he back then - Ben Carson's or maybe Jeb Bush's? This whole idea is hopelessly short-sighted and stupid; Tarpley is his own hatchet-man and attacks Trump because he sees him as the greatest threat to the country in modern times.

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The case will be dismissed after the election and that will be that.  No harm done to the First Amendment.  Let Tarpley call Melania Trump a whore from now to election day if he wants.  He has the right.  The lawsuit didn't remove his tongue.  But I expect he'll tone down the rhetoric.

That's right, she has no hope of winning, so this case is being pursued solely to chill free speech and bully Tarpley into not giving his opinion about Trump. You say that this does no harm to his First Amendment rights? Wrong again.

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« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2016, 05:42:25 PM »
Nobody's limiting Tarpley's freedom of speech.  What's being targeted is his ability to slander.

The president of the Philippines recently called Obama the "son of a whore."  Shirley Dunham, his mom, worked with pornographer Frank Marshall Davis, and Davis got her pregnant.  Obama was their child.



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So, I have no problem with anyone calling Obama the son of a whore.  If Obama wants to sue, that's his right.  But he won't sue, because the ugly truth would come out in the proceedings.

Tarpley's mistake was in spreading rumor as fact.  He can't prove that Trump's wife ever worked as a hooker, yet he repeated the story anyway.

And I may be wrong about his legal problems going away after the election.  He's been pretty savage in his attacks on Trump recently, so maybe the prosecution CAN prove that there was an attempt to maliciously harm.

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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2016, 05:23:44 PM »
Nobody's limiting Tarpley's freedom of speech.  What's being targeted is his ability to slander.

Tarpley's mistake was in spreading rumor as fact.  He can't prove that Trump's wife ever worked as a hooker, yet he repeated the story anyway.

Reporting a news story is not defamation or slander. Trump knows this, and this case is not about what Tarpley reported anout Melania Trump; what is being targeted is Tarpley's ability to defend the case, which takes money. It is a rich person attempting to bully a less well off person into shutting up and not expressing their political opinions.

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And I may be wrong about his legal problems going away after the election.  He's been pretty savage in his attacks on Trump recently, so maybe the prosecution CAN prove that there was an attempt to maliciously harm.

'Savagely' attacking a public figure who is running for el presidente is exactly the sort of activity which the First Amendment is there to protect, and its exactly the activity which Trump is attempting to stifle with his trumped-up lawsuit, using his wife as a proxy.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2016, 06:06:51 PM »
I did listen to Tarpley to get his take on this, and came away with the impression that he thought he was being bullied by the trump group  trying to limit his first ammendmant rights and that was BS. Webster has a right to say what he likes about anyone anytime ,if what he says is not true then he is not above the law . Will it go to a court case ? I doubt it .

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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2016, 06:43:53 PM »
Listened to Tarpley's program for this week.  Praising Clinton, trashing Trump.  Same ol same ol.

And then there's the Trump lawsuit against him.  He kept referring to himself as the canary in the coal mine.  If he doesn't make it through his ordeal, then it's over for everyone.  No more freedom of speech.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2016, 02:43:08 PM »
Listening to World Crisis Radio as I type this.

Despite all the damning evidence that's come out in just the last few weeks exposing Hillary's blatant criminality and clinical psychopathy, Tarpley is still telling everyone to vote for that war criminal and whore of Wall Street.

Whether Tarpley likes it or not, and whether he wants to admit it or not, this proves once and for all that he's not nearly as "different" from the warmongering neocons about whom he's been whining and complaining all these years as he would have his listeners blindly believe.

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/23739-neocons-warmongers-and-globalists-abandon-gop-for-hillary

Neocons, Warmongers, and Globalists Abandon GOP for Hillary

by  Alex Newman
The New American
July 28, 2016

In the top echelons of political power, there is only one major party in American politics, and that is the globalist war party. In case Americans needed more evidence that party labels are largely meaningless to the bipartisan ruling establishment, influential members of the establishment wing of the GOP — neocons, warmongers, globalists, and so on — are abandoning the Republican Party and in many cases jumping on board the Democrat Hillary Clinton campaign. From Bush-era war hawks who misled Americans into war to pseudo-conservative operatives of the globalist-minded Council on Foreign Relations, Republicans In Name Only (RINOs) are showing their true colors and allegiances. Blasting Donald Trump, more than a few of the globalist RINOs and neocon warmongers are now proudly on the Hillary Train.

In the massive history book Tragedy and Hope, Bill Clinton mentor and establishment insider Carroll Quigley explains succinctly how American politics works in the real world — and how the insiders like it. “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers,” Quigley says matter-of-factly in what would certainly be news to most grassroots activists in both parties. “Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.” As far as the establishment is concerned, Trump, who proudly slams the Hillary-backed Iraq and Libya wars and blasts “globalism,” may be a threat to that whole “uniparty” idea.

Ironically, establishment media outlets are touting the establishment GOP defections to Hillary among neocons and globalists in an apparent effort to hurt the the Trump campaign. Apparently, they are oblivious to the fact that the defections of widely loathed establishment warmongers from Republican ranks actually bolsters Trump's arguments of a “rigged” system — not to mention his credibility in the eyes of supporters on both sides of the political spectrum, including among embattled “working class voters” and union members long considered reliable Democrats. Recent polls make that clear, with Trump's campaign surging ahead of Clinton's and attracting hordes of disaffected Democrats opposed to globalist “free trade” deals and endless wars.   

One of the many leftist media outlets celebrating the anti-Trump RINOs is the Daily Beast, a sort of wannabe establishment outlet that is unabashedly left-wing. The Beast compiled a list of some of the “biggest GOP names” backing Hillary Clinton so far. According to an alleged “source” within the Clinton camp, “highlighting Republicans who’ve crossed over will be a key fixture in campaign ads this fall.” If the list provided is representative of those “Republicans” to be highlighted, though, Clinton better hope Americans have a short memory. Indeed, aside from some no-name lobbyists and bureaucrats, the list is practically a who's who of the most politically toxic establishment globalists, banksters, and neocons on the planet.

Consider: At the top of the list of prominent alleged Republicans pushing Clinton is globalist bankster Henry “Hank” Paulson. Among other supposed accomplishments, the Goldman Sachs CEO and George W. Bush Treasury secretary helped oversee the redistribution of trillions of dollars in public money from middle class and poor Americans to billionaire Wall Street insiders. According to lawmakers, they were threatened by Paulson and his cronies with a declaration of martial law if Congress refused to approve the “banker bailout” heist. Now, Paulson spends much of his time pushing the discredited man-made global-warming theory hoping to profit from the radical policy schemes. 

Also featuring prominently on the list are many of the neocons responsible for squandering trillions of tax dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives — if not millions — on undeclared, illegal wars based on lies. Chief among them is neocon Robert Kagan, a senior fellow at the far-left globalist “think tank” Brookings Institution and a co-founder of the fringe Project for the New American Century that helped lead America into Iraq under Bush. Aside from his own non-stop warmongering seeking to send your children off to die in undeclared wars, Kagan is married to senior Obama official and fellow warmonger Victoria Nuland. Naturally, Kagan is on Team Hillary. 

Another senior neocon globalist on the Hillary Train is Max Boot, a left-wing Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) operative who claims to have been a “lifelong Republican” despite his love for Big Government. “[Hillary Clinton] would be vastly preferable to Trump,” Boot was quoted as saying, adding that he hopes the GOP will split. “What she basically espouses is a pretty mainstream view.” Of course, what Clinton espouses is so far from mainstream, it's hard to believe anyone, including fringe neocons, actually believes something so ridiculous. Just a few days ago, a poll showed eight in 10 voters want more restrictions on abortion, while Clinton wants even less restrictions and more tax funding for it. Almost no Americans except Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and fringe abortion activists support any tax funding for abortions. And that is just the start.

Others on the list of disgraced “Republican” neocons, globalists, and establishment insiders who are pushing a Clinton presidency include Bush globalist and leading Iraq war booster Richard Armitage; Ken Adelman, assistant to Iraq warmonger Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and later a senior disarmament bureaucrat; Tony Fratto, deputy propagandist for George W. Bush; former “regional EPA administrator” Alan Steinberg, also from the second Bush administration; Mark Salter, a “former speechwriter” for embattled neocon globalist Senator John McCain of Arizona; and more. Also listed are people with politically toxic titles like “Republican lobbyist,” “Republican strategist,” and a handful of mega-donors and crony capitalists.

That is all wonderful news for the Trump campaign. Essentially, neoconservatism and globalism are now considered toxic in the GOP. And so, the neocon and globalist factions in the Republican Party have been preparing to migrate to the Democrat Party to join their ideological brethren. The preparations have been underway for some time. Indeed, the globalist mouthpiece New York Times, described as a “propaganda megaphone” for war and the establishment by a former reporter, reported on the trend two years ago — long before Trump, running on an anti-globalism campaign, became the nominee. “Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver’s seat of American foreign policy,” an opinion piece in the Times noted in July of 2014. “It’s easy to imagine Mrs. Clinton’s making room for the neocons in her administration.” 

More recently, Politico was reporting that the Hillary Clinton campaign was courting major Bush donors — many of whom stand to lose big money if the cronyism, banker bailouts, and funding for the perpetual war machine start to dry up. According to the report, the Clinton camp told Bush's donors “that she represents their values better than Donald Trump.” And if Trump actually means what he says about stopping illegal wars, asking Congress for a declaration of war before waging one, withdrawing from globalist entangling alliances and pseudo-“free trade” regimes, putting America first, ending globalism, and so on, then the Clinton campaign is probably — in an unusual move — actually telling the truth in this case. 

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^^ That's who you're now in bed with, Webster.

Shame on you.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2016, 03:03:29 PM »
Webster Tarpley. We have just forgotten he but :P...

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« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2016, 11:57:32 PM »
Tarpley's last posting on Tarpley.net.  November 8:

Fate of Civilization Hangs in the Balance; Main Issue in Campaign is Whether Transition from Sixth or Southern Strategy (1968-2008) Phase to Seventh U.S. Party System Will Be Completed and Consolidated – or Aborted into an Authoritarian Regime; GOP Likely to Forfeit Senate Majority and Take Losses in House,,,

I wonder how he's feeling now?  He said this election would be the end for the Republican party.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2016, 10:46:30 AM »


  Tarpley needs to retire and before he does-----delete all the crap he has put on the internet.
I'M A DEPLORABLE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP.  MAY GOD BLESS HIM AND KEEP HIM SAFE.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2016, 11:09:39 AM »
  Tarpley needs to retire and before he does-----delete all the crap he has put on the internet.

I wouldn't go that far.

Before turning to the dark side, he was a principled leftist who criticized both wings of the banker-owned War Party, not just the Republican wing:





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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2016, 11:14:51 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^

  OK.  I'll give him that.  I've got that 9/11 book in my attic collecting dust.

  He has definitely-----TURNED TO THE DARK SIDE.
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« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2016, 09:16:47 PM »
Haven't listened to a Tarpley broadcast in a while, so I thought I'd do that.  I thought this week's post-election show would be interesting.  Made some notes as he spoke.

I find it odd that in the first few minutes he mentioned resistance to the new president through states' rights.  Mr. Union supporter, always bashing the southern Confederacy, talked about resorting to the very thing that the south fought for.  Take a point away from Mr. T for that.

Talks about how Republicans said they would block Obama, and he hopes that won't happen with Trump.  Mentions Machiavelli, conflicting views need to be worked out in government, compromise, etc.  Gets a point for that, for not being a crybaby.

Upbeat about Russia.  We can now re-set our policies with Russia.  Tarpley has always pointed out that Russia is historically our ally, so he's happy about this now.  He's of the opinion that we can now end the war in Syria, work at reducing NATO pressure on Russia and so on.  Gains a point for that.

Blames Libertarians and Green Party voters for losing the presidency to Trump.  Maybe.  Libertarians would have voted for Trump, probably.  Who knows?  A moot point.

Gripes about how the networks gave Trump an estimated 3 billion dollars in free television time, and that kept Trump going.  I've seen and heard mention of this elsewhere, but what people fail to mention is that ALL OF THE MSM AIRTIME WAS AGAINST TRUMP.  Tarpley's gripe is without merit.  Minus a point.

Wikileaks.  Says effects had negligible impact, but the drip drip drip was unnecessary.  Why didn't the government shut it down?  Man...this comes from a man who's currently involved in what he views as a Freedom of Speech lawsuit.  Minus a point.

That's it.  I made it halfway through the show and those are my notes from the experience.  2 plus, 3 minus, 1 moot point.  I don't know why the hell I scored the thing but there it is.

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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2017, 09:55:53 PM »
Melania Trump wins round in libel suit over blogger's 'escort' claims

...A lawyer for Tarpley, Danielle Giroux, insisted that Tarpley wasn’t vouching for the truth of the allegations he aired, but simply publicizing the fact that there were rumors that had a potential to impact the presidential campaign.

“He did not say that Melania Trump was a high-class escort. What he said was there are rumors about that,” the attorney said. "He's writing about the rumors and that, itself, is newsworthy."

However, Trump attorney Charles Harder said it was evident from Tarpley’s post that he was endorsing the accuracy of the claims, particularly by referring to them as “widely known.”

"That's not how the law works. You can't print a rumor if it's not true and it damages or harms someone's reputation," the attorney said. "That is textbook defamation.

Harder also complained that Tarpley had done nothing to investigate the accuracy of what he was circulating. For example, the attorney said the blogger could or should have checked "a library of porn content" to see if Trump had appeared in pornography....

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/melania-trump-libel-suit-blogger-234263

lol.  You should've surfed some porn first, Webster.

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Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2017, 09:24:40 PM »
Looks like I'm not the only one who noticed the sudden and dramatic change in Webster's tone and character once the presidential campaign season got underway in the Fall of 2015:

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"I was just reading about Tarpley. I didn't know [about the details of the defamation lawsuit brought against him by Melania Trump]. Webster was on this program for years and years, and started out before Obama was first selected, and was one of the first, along with yours truly, to really try to expose the guy for what he is. And then he changed. He did about a 180. It was very strange....

"Here's a quote [from the lawsuit settlement]. Webster wrote: 'I had no legitimate factual basis to make these false statements and I fully retract them. I acknowledge that these false statements were very harmful and hurtful to Mrs. Trump and her family, and therefore I sincerely apologize to Mrs. Trump, her son, her husband and her parents for making these false statements.' And they say this was a suit that was settled for a 'substantial sum.'....

"I always got along fine with Webster. But he did turn, and he began laughing at me in a disrespectful manner on the air. You just don't do that, especially after a number of years. He had other things to do, so he went on, and insulted Melania Trump. So that's what he gets."

-- Jeff Rense, The Jeff Rense Radio Show, 2nd hour, February 07, 2017

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Tarpley's last appearance on Rense's show was on December 02, 2015.

To my knowledge this is the first time Jeff has explained why.

I'm frankly saddened by it all.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2017, 10:11:31 PM »
I also noted Tarpley's devotion to Hillary and stopped listening when I saw that he was just OBSESSED with her. Good Lord.
And now he's got a massive damages to pay.

But I was also shocked that the damages sought by Melania Trump included 'lost revenues' during her time as first lady, on her "brand".
Somehow I've never thought of the First Lady as a tool for marketing products (while in office)... has there ever been a first lady who has sold shoes and perfume while in the White House?
 
Melania wins ‘substantial’ settlement from blogger over prostitution claims
http://nypost.com/2017/02/07/melania-wins-substantial-settlement-from-blogger-over-prostitution-claims/
By Julia Marsh February 7, 2017
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Mrs. Trump’s lawyers made a new, eyebrow-raising claim in the New York suit —
that the prostitution rumors ruined her
“once-in-a-lifetime opportunity” to cash in on the presidency.

The suit says the First Lady “had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person…to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multi-million dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.”

“These product categories would have included, among other things, apparel, accessories, shoes, jewelry, cosmetics, hair care, skin care and fragrance,” according to the filing.

It places the value of the lost business opportunities at $150 million.

A spokeswoman for Mrs. Trump seemed to walk back the claims made in court papers.

“The First Lady has no intention of using her position for profit and will not do so. Any statements to the contrary are being misinterpreted,” the spokeswoman said.

(So the court papers say one thing "perfectly clearly," as Sean Spicer might say... and the Trump spokeman says (tries to spin) the opposite.)
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2017, 10:58:00 PM »
I also noted Tarpley's devotion to Hillary and stopped listening when I saw that he was just OBSESSED with her. Good Lord.

That's not how I interpreted it. From my perspective his obsession was with Trump -- specifically with his hatred of Trump, and with demonizing him in any way he could think of.

That's why I call it anti-Trumpism. It's the same personality-obsessed mentality that fueled the Obama cult of 2008, only inverted and applied in the opposite direction against Trump.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2017, 12:37:02 AM »
That's not how I interpreted it. From my perspective his obsession was with Trump -- specifically with his hatred of Trump, and with demonizing him in any way he could think of.

That's why I call it anti-Trumpism. It's the same personality-obsessed mentality that fueled the Obama cult of 2008, only inverted and applied in the opposite direction against Trump.

So what the hell happened to Tarpley?
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2017, 03:23:00 AM »
So what the hell happened to Tarpley?

Absolutely nothing. He is the same as he has always been,

It may be time for Infowarriors to start working on exposing Tarpley for what he is: A very subtle disinfo agent. ...
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... It is why they send out their disinfo agents like Tarpley to distract & divide you, to keep you looking at the symptoms, always pointing at something else, never at the source.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2017, 03:48:55 AM »
Who is Hillary Clinton ?  ;D

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2017, 04:42:16 AM »
Absolutely nothing. He is the same as he has always been

Not true. He spent nearly all of 2008 trying desperately to warn as many American voters as he could against voting for Obama. He wrote two books on the subject, and was featured extensively in The Obama Deception.

Fast forward to 2016. From a public policy perspective, a Hillary presidency would have been a 3rd Obama term, only worse. Yet for the entire campaign season Tarpley gave her a free pass on virtually everything, no matter how inexcusable, which led me to wonder if perhaps he had been blackmailed or bought off (or both), because his actions were so contrary to who he was eight years beforehand.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2017, 06:29:16 AM »
Not true. He spent nearly all of 2008 trying desperately to warn as many American voters as he could against voting for Obama. He wrote two books on the subject, and was featured extensively in The Obama Deception.

Fast forward to 2016. From a public policy perspective, a Hillary presidency would have been a 3rd Obama term, only worse. Yet for the entire campaign season Tarpley gave her a free pass on virtually everything, no matter how inexcusable, which led me to wonder if perhaps he had been blackmailed or bought off (or both), because his actions were so contrary to who he was eight years beforehand.


Wolves in sheep's clothing.

No different than Sgt Psyop Kokesh, Charlie Veich. etc., & many others who are yet to expose themselves.


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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2017, 06:55:02 AM »
Wolves in sheep's clothing.

No different than Sgt Psyop Kokesh, Charlie Veich. etc., & many others who are yet to expose themselves.

There are many online detractors who say the very same thing about Alex Jones.

Letting one's imagination run away with itself may make for cheap fun, but it doesn't solve any of the problems that are plaguing our society right now.

That's why I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt until I see compelling evidence that they're undeserving of such benefit.

People disagree with my libertarian views at family reunions. I don't automatically conclude from this that they're "controlled opposition" or part of an evil communist conspiracy.

Same principle here.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2017, 07:23:20 AM »
There are many online detractors who say the very same thing about Alex Jones.
True.
Letting one's imagination run away with itself may make for cheap fun, but it doesn't solve any of the problems that are plaguing our society right now.

I'm not. Why I linked a thread I made in 2012.

That's why I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt until I see compelling evidence that they're undeserving of such benefit.
I agree. Why I pay attention to what people say & pay attention to how they express their world view. Also why I never trusted Tarpley & went on record back in 2012.
People disagree with my libertarian views at family reunions.
I never really thought of you as a libertarian due to your Georgist views, but what do labels really mean when most hold a unique view or two?

I don't automatically conclude from this that they're "controlled opposition" or part of an evil communist conspiracy.

I don't either.
But I do admit I am an ardent anti-Marxist. It is one of several very flawed world views.

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Re: Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2017, 02:43:00 PM »
Looks like I'm not the only one who noticed the sudden and dramatic change in Webster's tone and character once the presidential campaign season got underway in the Fall of 2015:

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"I was just reading about Tarpley. I didn't know [about the details of the defamation lawsuit brought against him by Melania Trump]. Webster was on this program for years and years, and started out before Obama was first selected, and was one of the first, along with yours truly, to really try to expose the guy for what he is. And then he changed. He did about a 180. It was very strange....

"Here's a quote [from the lawsuit settlement]. Webster wrote: 'I had no legitimate factual basis to make these false statements and I fully retract them. I acknowledge that these false statements were very harmful and hurtful to Mrs. Trump and her family, and therefore I sincerely apologize to Mrs. Trump, her son, her husband and her parents for making these false statements.' And they say this was a suit that was settled for a 'substantial sum.'....

"I always got along fine with Webster. But he did turn, and he began laughing at me in a disrespectful manner on the air. You just don't do that, especially after a number of years. He had other things to do, so he went on, and insulted Melania Trump. So that's what he gets."

-- Jeff Rense, The Jeff Rense Radio Show, 2nd hour, February 07, 2017

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Tarpley's last appearance on Rense's show was on December 02, 2015.

To my knowledge this is the first time Jeff has explained why.

I'm frankly saddened by it all.

I listened to Rense and Tarpley at the time, and it didn't quite happen that way.

Tarpley would be making some of his usual historical references, some about Nazi Germany, some in reference to Trump, and Rense would repeatedly interrupt and talk about how righteous and good the Nazis were and Hitler was a misunderstood man. At first Tarpley tried to laugh it off, then he became more dismissive and said things like ' I can't be associated with this Jeff'.  This was exactly around the time of Rense's most intense enamorment with Trump and of course Tarpley was in full flow opposing him, and I believe it was the last time I heard him on Rense's show. So yes, there was disrespect, but it was more towards Rense's  Hitler-and-the-Nazis-ophile phase, which incidentally Rense has now pretty much dropped, or at least is not talking so much about. I still listen to him, when he has a good guest, but he has jumped head first down the Mooozlum demonization rabbit hole, which is a shame.

I also don't see Tarpley as having 'done a 180'. His approach to Trump was very similar to his approach to Obama in 2008, seeing them both as dangerous demagogues who should be denied power at all costs. When Sanders was in play, he excoriated Hillary regularly, and Sanders too for not fighting Hillary harder and exposing her scandals and emails etc, particularly his decision to 'not go there' about the emails in their first debate. But after she won the nomination (or stole it) Tarpley did give her too much of a pass in my view, but his motivation was to stop Trump who he saw as a much bigger threat. Tarpley basically saw a continuation of Obama as a much lesser evil than a Trump administration, and with Trump's current posturing and beligerence towards Iran and also China, among other concerns, Tarpley may well be proven correct yet again.

On the Melania dispute, he should have left her out of his commentary on Trump, and I am absolutely certain that he is well aware that not doing so was a mistake.

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Re: Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2017, 03:05:47 PM »
I listened to Rense and Tarpley at the time, and it didn't quite happen that way.

Tarpley would be making some of his usual historical references, some about Nazi Germany, some in reference to Trump, and Rense would repeatedly interrupt and talk about how righteous and good the Nazis were and Hitler was a misunderstood man. At first Tarpley tried to laugh it off, then he became more dismissive and said things like ' I can't be associated with this Jeff'.  This was exactly around the time of Rense's most intense enamorment with Trump and of course Tarpley was in full flow opposing him, and I believe it was the last time I heard him on Rense's show.

That sounds like something I'd remember having heard, but since I have no memory of it, I can only assume I must have missed that particular show.

Do you happen to know which show this was? It was presumably in the latter half of 2015, so that should narrow it down quite a bit.
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Re: Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2017, 09:19:43 PM »
That sounds like something I'd remember having heard, but since I have no memory of it, I can only assume I must have missed that particular show.

Do you happen to know which show this was? It was presumably in the latter half of 2015, so that should narrow it down quite a bit.

I can't usefully help with the date as its a bit of a blur. However if someone has access to rense's archives it shouldn't be difficult as it would be the last couple of shows featuring Tarpley.

I think it was something which built over a couple of shows. I recall a guest comiong on immediately after Tarpley and mentioning it - could have been Jay Weidner or Gordon Duff, and Rense said something like 'yeah he went close to the line there' so that reaction seems to imply that that show did not add the final straw, but I'm not sure whether that was the show I heard or it was the one before that or even a combination.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2017, 10:52:02 PM »
Tarpley knows politics, and he hated the thought of a Trump presidency.  He explained why, and now it will be interesting to see if he was right.

He crossed the line with the Melania Trump thing, though.  Those are litigious people, and he got burned.  Not only was what he did wrong, but he should have known he would pay a price.

I listened to a few minutes of his show this week, and he mentioned how the anti-Trump protests were a good thing (a sign of how The People were attempting to take back the government),  That makes me wonder more than anything else how in touch with reality he is.  Trump is in office because people want to take back the government.

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Re: Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2017, 12:19:28 AM »
i also don't see Tarpley as having 'done a 180'. His approach to Trump was very similar to his approach to Obama in 2008, seeing them both as dangerous demagogues who should be denied power at all costs. When Sanders was in play, he excoriated Hillary regularly, and Sanders too for not fighting Hillary harder and exposing her scandals and emails etc, particularly his decision to 'not go there' about the emails in their first debate. But after she won the nomination (or stole it) Tarpley did give her too much of a pass in my view, but his motivation was to stop Trump who he saw as a much bigger threat.

Where I think Tarpley absolutely failed his listeners (and himself) was in his refusal to specifically explain why -- despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary -- Trump was so much of a greater evil than Hillary that it justified giving her a free pass on everything. She received far more money from both Wall Street and Saudi Arabia than did Trump. She actually ran to the right of Trump on both foreign policy and the corporate fascist trade deal known as TPP. And both the emails released by Wikileaks and videos released by Project Veritas proved that the political machine she represented was absolutely corrupt to the core.

You can't just hand-wave all that stuff away and then expect any reasonable person to see you as anything more than an intellectual prostitute, yet that's exactly what he tried to do.
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Re: Jeff Rense explains why we stopped having Tarpley on his program
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2017, 07:22:58 PM »
Where I think Tarpley absolutely failed his listeners (and himself) was in his refusal to specifically explain why -- despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary -- Trump was so much of a greater evil than Hillary that it justified giving her a free pass on everything. She received far more money from both Wall Street and Saudi Arabia than did Trump. She actually ran to the right of Trump on both foreign policy and the corporate fascist trade deal known as TPP. And both the emails released by Wikileaks and videos released by Project Veritas proved that the political machine she represented was absolutely corrupt to the core.

You can't just hand-wave all that stuff away and then expect any reasonable person to see you as anything more than an intellectual prostitute, yet that's exactly what he tried to do.

Tarpley saw a large part of his role, in terms of the election, as giving out talking points, rather than necessarily discussing the relative weaknesses of the candidates in a transparent way. He chose the tack he did to achieve a focus on denying Trump power. Giving Hillary a break was equated to an attack on Trump; what helped one would hurt the other. It was a deliberate tactic rather than a change in opinion about Hillary, and one which was probably inflicting serious harm on Trump, which is why I believe the lawsuit was filed; there were countless media outlets which repeated the stuff about Melania which Tarpley did, but Tarpley was sued to shut him up. Of course he ran a risk doing this, and whether it was the 'right' tactic is a different matter.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2017, 04:06:27 AM »
I am way more worried about prominent ex truth movement talk show hosts who are now intellectual prostitutes for Donald Trump.

Sure, we dogged a bullet with Hillary, but this unqualified support for Trump is not rational.

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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2017, 06:08:36 AM »
I am way more worried about prominent ex truth movement talk show hosts who are now intellectual prostitutes for Donald Trump.

Sure, we dogged a bullet with Hillary, but this unqualified support for Trump is not rational.

I am starting to see signs of the irrationality; not sure what can happen, but something bad could.
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Re: Webster Tarpley has become an intellectual prostitute for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2017, 06:58:51 AM »
I am starting to see signs of the irrationality; not sure what can happen, but something bad could.

I am trying to stick to the maxim of waiting for the first 100 days before hastily rushing to judgement.