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Risk Of "Mass Exodus" Of Doctors From Medicare Looms
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2016, 04:04:02 PM »
Risk Of "Mass Exodus" Of Doctors From Medicare Looms
23 October 2016
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2016, 04:15:38 PM »
Aren't they DemonCats?
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Obama Administration Confirms Obamacare Premiums Will Surge By 25% In 2017
« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2016, 12:23:58 AM »
Obama Administration Confirms Obamacare Premiums Will Surge By 25% In 2017
24 October 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/obama-administration-confirms-obamacare-premiums-will-surge-25-2017
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2016, 10:46:11 AM »
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More Bad News For Phiadelphia: Obamacare Premiums Set To Soar More Than 50%
« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2016, 01:17:04 PM »
More Bad News For Phiadelphia: Obamacare Premiums Set To Soar More Than 50%
25 October 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/more-bad-news-phiadelphia-obamacare-premiums-set-soar-more-50
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2016, 11:41:07 AM »
"Obama Calls Obamacare Disaster 'A Starter Home', Republicans Should Be The Bulldozer"
26 October 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-26/obama-calls-obamacare-disaster-starter-home-republicans-should-be-bulldozer

ObamaCare Architect Admits "The Law Is Working As Designed" As Premiums Spike
26 October 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-26/obamacare-architect-admits-law-working-designed-premiums-spike

Your Dog Probably Has Better Healthcare Than You Do
26 October 2016
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Even The New York Times Is Bashing Obamacare - "It Has Not Worked All That Well"
27 October 2016
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/even-new-york-times-bashing-obamacare-it-has-not-worked-all-well

Now, even the New York Times is admitting that Obamacare is a farce, pointing out that millions of healthy Americans would rather pay massive penalties to the IRS than buy health insurance policies with sky-high premiums.
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #87 on: October 27, 2016, 08:38:06 PM »
Because it is a ducking scam

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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #88 on: October 27, 2016, 08:52:13 PM »
Quote  me wrong dem rep was not obamacre another insurance job scam

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Healthcare Stocks Tumble After Terrible McKesson Earnings, Outlook
« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2016, 03:49:05 PM »
"Is The Neighborhood Burning Down?": Healthcare Stocks Tumble After Terrible McKesson Earnings, Outlook
28 October 2016
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Economist Predicts Rising Obamacare Costs Will Lead To Riots
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2016, 07:19:34 PM »
Economist Predicts Rising Obamacare Costs Will Lead To Riots
29 October 2016
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2016, 01:40:58 AM »
  I wouldn't be surprised if
there's a ponzi scheme underneath it all.
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #92 on: November 01, 2016, 10:44:28 PM »
The Obamacare Tipping Point
1 November 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/obamacare-tipping-point

Can This Key Level Stop The Bleeding In Health Care Stocks?
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2016, 11:24:51 PM »

Would one keep paying into it at this point?  I have Liberty Health Share that qualifies.  I might keep it though because at 2 years the death benefits kick in for free.

But, if I were paying for Obummer Care... I would sure be tempted to stop paying it.

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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #94 on: November 01, 2016, 11:41:34 PM »
egypt , the "Garnishing" of penalties (fines) etc.
the IRS has been doing to people who said, forget it..
I'm not signing up for this forced illegal health care...
they're getting hit with garnishments.   The IRS always
gets its' money...one way or another.   One would have
to "Go Galt" to avoid it, and hope they never ended up
in the Emergency Room.   

Who is John Galt?   
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The US Healthcare System Summed Up In 1 Stunning Bill
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2016, 08:37:21 PM »
The US Healthcare System Summed Up In 1 Stunning Bill
2 November 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/us-healthcare-system-summed-1-stunning-bill

"The most bonkers medical bill I've ever received. Cut my finger chopping veggies, got a few stitches. Dr took 45 min, billed insurance $14k."



The Rise Of Mandatory Vaccinations Means The End Of Medical Freedom
2 November 2015
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/rise-mandatory-vaccinations-means-end-medical-freedom
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2016, 12:12:01 AM »
The bill is cut off, does the article mention
what this guy owes after his crap-care insurance paid?

(zerohedge won't load for me, they changed their coding on
their website and it sucks now)
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2016, 01:12:59 AM »
egypt , the "Garnishing" of penalties (fines) etc.
the IRS has been doing to people who said, forget it..
I'm not signing up for this forced illegal health care...
they're getting hit with garnishments.   The IRS always
gets its' money...one way or another.   One would have
to "Go Galt" to avoid it, and hope they never ended up
in the Emergency Room.   

Who is John Galt?

Thank you for the question -- looked him up as a character in Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged.  It's so true about not seeking medical care.  They come up and try to vaccinate in a sneaky way.

All I know is, one had medical insurance for really big things that put you in the hospital.  I used to pay for my medical care, which was reasonable.  Doctors and medical care were the very best!  And, the doctors' offices didn't smell like a government facility.  What ~is~ that smell anyway?  The schools have the same smell.  It plenty stinks.

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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2016, 01:31:22 AM »
egypt, what you're smelling at Dr. offices,  medical facilities
and public schools is the stench of Big Brother.   The powers
that be have been incrementally eating away at everything "GOOD"
that we once knew.   They're impatient, they're behind in their
agenda, single payer, cull the herd, and right to die counseling
because you're too old for that life saving surgery.

My crap-care insurance plan through my husband's employer
is still way better then the exchanges, as bad as that sounds
and I have a real crappy plan.

Atlas Shrugged is a good book, worth the read, just under 1,100 pages.
Published in 1957. 

The medical people who now try and push the governments vaccines
also are those who ask invasive questions that have nothing to do with
why you're at the Dr.'s office  (ear ache, sinus infection, small things)
like -

Do you cry?   

This one bitch where I live, a P.A.  had a list of questions
she was running by me, while she clutched a paper tightly
and the other hand pressing it down on her lap and kept
lifting it up reading off stupid lame questions and they no
doubt get government perks, (money) turning the results in.

Not being in the Matrix, I immediately recognized the
info-mining  and turned it around on her.   If this ever
happens to me again, I will snatch the paper from their
hand, run out the door with it and scan it at home and
upload it to the internet. 

Health care nowadays is akin to a meat factory, we're all cattle.
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #99 on: November 03, 2016, 01:44:23 AM »

windyacres --

oh yes we're cattle!  Is it the moo that attracts them to hurt little kids -- pedophilia, satanic rites & something to chew on.  I think Bill Clinton bites upper lips not only for control, but for the taste of blood.

It has to stop.  There is something very wrong with all of this and them being in power to-begin-with.  6000... can the FBI and police arrest that many at once?  They should, before all are suicided, in embassy assylums, get face transplants, and literally go underground in luxury fascilities.

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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2016, 03:36:02 AM »
egypt, we needed a Re-Set in 2008 when the manufactured
economic crash happened.  Let it crash and burn, all of it.
They didn't let that happen as it furthered other agendas of theirs
this UN-Affordable Care Act  was one of them.   Single Payer is
their goal, dump everyone into one big Government run health system.

Ever see the movie Papillon?   That would be too good for the 6,000 +
people in power.   The evil-doers have been at this for a long time now
their agenda is set in stone.   They rose to power a couple hundred years
ago with all the Secret Societies and perversions.   

Don't forget egypt,  Satanists run the world.   The devil has many faces.

The average "medical debt" each household has lately, last article I read
a couple of months now was $6,000  owing in medical bills.   Oppression,
keep people poor, barely keeping a roof over their heads, barely putting
food on the table and oppress them enough and they'll be screaming for
Single Payer health care.   That's what they want, the evil-doers want.
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DOJ Preparing Massive Probe Into Generic Drug Price-Fixing
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2016, 03:49:29 PM »
Healthcare Stocks Crater: DOJ Preparing Massive Probe Into Generic Drug Price-Fixing
3 November 2015
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Obamacare Is Raising Premiums And Lowering Employment
« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2016, 04:25:45 PM »
Obamacare Is Raising Premiums And Lowering Employment
4 November 2016
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Dr. Elaina George–The Time For Healthcare Self-Sufficiency Is Now!
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2016, 10:56:50 PM »
Dr. Elaina George–The Time For Healthcare Self-Sufficiency Is Now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJcaKNXcbG0

Nov 5, 2016 FSN GoldandSilver

Noted physician Dr. Elaina George has been spearheading the effort to empower patients and to find viable alternatives to the broken healthcare system. She gives solid examples of what you can do to save money and start taking control of your healthcare spending.
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Anthem says it may trim Obamacare participation in 2018
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2016, 08:50:08 AM »
Anthem says it may trim Obamacare participation in 2018
2 November 2016
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-anthem-results-idUSKBN12X139

U.S. health insurer Anthem on Wednesday raised the prospect of smaller participation in the individual Obamacare exchanges in 2018, saying it would have a market-by-market strategy that hinges on 2017 profitability.
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2016, 11:17:56 PM »
Diving Into The Medical CPI: Are Your Medical Expenses Up Only 5% From Year Ago?
7 November 2016
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2016, 12:35:35 AM »
I'm going to enjoy watching this forced illegal health care scam
go down in flames when Trump gets in office. 
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2016, 11:08:53 PM »
SR 1344 – Denninger Sounds Alarm on Trump Healthcare Reorg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDbM1E1ud0

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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #108 on: November 17, 2016, 01:30:59 AM »
Jonathan Gruber: ‘No Evidence Obamacare Has Caused Job Loss’


 Breitbart
November 16, 2016

Obamacare “architect” Jonathan Gruber asserts there is “no evidence” President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation “has caused job loss.”

In an interview Tuesday, Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo confronted Gruber with Obamacare’s double-digit premium hikes, the fact that insurance companies are leaving exchanges, and that small businesses are either slowing hiring or turning full-time positions to part-time due to the costs of Obamacare.

Gruber accused Bartiromo of “making up facts” about Obamacare. He said media coverage of the healthcare law has been “completely misleading” and that Obamacare “has actually saved people money.”

“You made up the fact that Obamacare has caused job loss,” he said. “There is no evidence…there is none…look at the data. There is not a single data point.”

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/jonathan-gruber-no-evidence-obamacare-has-caused-job-loss.html


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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2016, 03:03:33 AM »
The Obamacare 'Dilemma' In One Infographic
8 December 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-08/obamacare-dilemma-one-infographic
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Re: Obamacare "Death Spiral" Looms As Co-Op Losses Mount
« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2016, 08:17:56 PM »
Massive Medical Research Bill Easily Clears Senate
7 December 2016
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http://www.rttnews.com/2723233/massive-medical-research-bill-easily-clears-senate.aspx

The legislation provides $4.8 billion to the National Institutes of Health, including $1.8 billion for Vice President Biden’s “Cancer Moonshot” to speed cancer research.


Obama Signs 21st Century Cures Act https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpTgWVLfAQs

Dec 13, 2016 Associated Press


It's steeling money from U.S. taxpayers.
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Republicans Consider Obamacare Repeal Without A Replacement Strategy
« Reply #111 on: December 29, 2016, 08:16:18 PM »
Republicans Consider Obamacare Repeal Without A Replacement Strategy
29 December 2016
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-29/republicans-consider-obamacare-repeal-without-replacement-strategy
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