BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016

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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #400 on: June 09, 2017, 11:49:34 AM »
So May is sabotaged by Jihadi attacks right up to the s-election ...  hmmm ...

http://www.drudgereport.com

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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #401 on: June 11, 2017, 10:53:10 AM »
Will Boris fill the void ? ? ?
I don't know why , But I like Boris ... Maybe 'cause his name is Boris ...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592016/Boris-set-launch-bid-PM-clings-on.html
Boris bids to be PM: Johnson team circles wounded Theresa May as she's forced to sacrifice key aides to keep her job as Tory leader

    Last night was 'go-go-go' for Mr Johnson's leadership push, a close ally said
    But the Foreign Secretary will not take any action while Theresa May remains
    MoS poll found that 41 per cent of all voters want Mrs May to resign immediately

By Glen Owen and Brendan Carlin for The Mail on Sunday
Published: 17:00 EDT, 10 June 2017 | Updated: 08:37 EDT, 11 June 2017

Boris Johnson is preparing a new bid to become Prime Minister as Theresa May’s grip on No 10 becomes increasingly fragile.

A close ally of the Foreign Secretary said last night it was ‘go-go-go’ for Mr Johnson’s leadership push, adding: ‘We need Bojo. We need a Brexiteer. We need somebody who can talk and connect with people like Jeremy Corbyn does. We need someone who can make Britain believe in itself again.’

Mr Johnson’s supporters are being careful to say that he will not take any action while Mrs May remains in No 10 – but the fact that his allies are actively briefing about his virtues will be seen in Downing Street as destabilising.

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Oh and Nigel Farage is going back  for UKIP :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-ukip-leader-return-considering-paul-nuttall-resignation-thinking-about-a7783951.html
Nigel Farage says he is 'thinking about' returning as Ukip leader after Paul Nuttall's resignation
Mr Nuttall said he was standing down as leader within hours of Ukip's disastrous election performance

    Katie Forster     @katieforster     17 hours ago

Nigel Farage has said he is considering returning as Ukip leader after Paul Nuttall's resignation.

When asked whether he was contemplating taking on the position, the Brexiteer, who led the party until just after the EU referendum, told the BBC: "I'm thinking about it."

"It's not top of my bucket list. For me, getting the referendum, forcing the referendum and helping to win it, I thought I was done with it," he said.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #402 on: July 01, 2017, 05:49:41 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/01/theresa-may-could-storm-brexit-talks-divorce-bill/
Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the “divorce bill”
By Peter Foster,  Europe Editor  and
 Ben Riley-Smith,  Assistant Political Editor 
 1 July 2017 • 9:30pm   

Number 10 has told business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the “divorce bill”, The Telegraph can reveal.

A senior Downing Street figure briefed industry and City bosses to prepare for the Prime Minister walking away from negotiations in September.

The move would be designed for “domestic consumption” to show Mrs May was playing tough over the €100 billion (£87.7 billion) some EU figures want the UK to pay before leaving.

The briefing took place at a point after the general election was held last month and the figure has since left in the recent overhaul of Downing Street.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/03/what-do-we-know-about-britains-brexit-divorce-bill
What do we know about Britain's Brexit divorce bill?
 
How much does Britain owe the EU, why does the figure keep changing and can the UK get away with paying nothing at all?
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Theresa May incensed EU negotiators, including Jean-Claude Juncker, by suggesting that the UK might owe nothing at all. Photograph: Andy Rain/EPA

Dan Roberts Brexit policy editor

 
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  Wednesday 3 May 2017 07.56 EDT  Last modified on Friday 16 June 2017 03.04 EDT 
 

So how much does Britain owe the EU?

Somewhere between zero and €100bn (£84bn) is probably the only accurate answer at the moment. The former is what some British ministers still argue for, drawing succour from an influential House of Lords report that suggests any liability arising on leaving the EU is not legally enforceable because the UK will have left.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #403 on: July 01, 2017, 06:40:19 PM »
I have not had time to write this up and document it properly.

BUT....
The toerag I warned about here [British Election] - Through the Looking Glass - Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee ? crawled out of his rat hole to lead the Rebellion Vote against Brexit.

"The Real Plan B is to have a coup, then install the annointed minion and puppet Chuka Uma."

Yes the minion of Peter Mandelson, Blair/Obama Clone - Chuka Uma. led the Bilderberg sponsored anti-brexit vote.
Of course they lost the vote, this time...

Sorry been to busy to give it a proper write up yet.
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« Reply #404 on: July 08, 2017, 07:16:04 AM »
Dear me. Chuka Umunna? Talk about a fake, metro Blairite champagne socialist.  That would likely be a huge blessing for the Tories. Which is fine for me while Brexit is still underway. I don't vote for them but they at least have hardliners in the party who can't stand the EU. I just want us to be as far away from EU membership as humanly possible by the time of the next election.

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« Reply #405 on: July 08, 2017, 05:12:25 PM »
What Stan said

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« Reply #406 on: July 08, 2017, 05:45:00 PM »
I am angry, very angry.
The only pure Brexiteer and Truther is Jeremy Corbyn.

We should support anyone who is a Brexiteer.
Some traitors think the Left v Right is more important.
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« Reply #407 on: July 08, 2017, 05:56:00 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn is brexit apart from that being BS  every socialist marxist in the UK  has been triggered by that satement

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« Reply #408 on: July 08, 2017, 06:11:09 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn is brexit apart from that being BS  every socialist marxist in the UK  has been triggered by that satement


Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job, the war on terror is a hoax, and that the EU is a 4th Reich.

But he is a socialist.....

Which is more important ?
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« Reply #409 on: July 08, 2017, 06:22:42 PM »
Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job so what does not make him a brexit supporter

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« Reply #410 on: July 08, 2017, 06:41:05 PM »
Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job so what does not make him a brexit supporter

Which is more important, Left v Right or Country ?
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« Reply #411 on: July 08, 2017, 06:50:21 PM »
now your going out on a limb EG

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« Reply #412 on: July 08, 2017, 06:57:50 PM »
now your going out on a limb EG

Brexit is bigger than petty party politics.

At least that is my take.

Paul Joseph Watson thinks other wise.

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« Reply #413 on: July 08, 2017, 07:05:58 PM »
now your going out on a limb EG

Does he concede that the whole basis of the Maastricht treaty is the establishment of a European central bank which is staffed by bankers, independent of national Governments and national economic policies, and whose sole policy is the maintenance of price stability? That will undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom—or any other Government—would wish to carry out. Does my hon. Friend recognise that the imposition of a bankers' Europe on the people of this continent will endanger the cause of socialism in the United Kingdom and in any other country?

Jeremy Corbyn.

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« Reply #414 on: July 08, 2017, 07:06:57 PM »
now your going out on a limb EG

My hon. Friend is right in saying that the Bank of England has often operated against the interests of Labour Governments. That is due to the mandarins who run it. If the hon. Gentleman has such doubts about the running of a bank which theoretically is state-owned and state-controlled, what influence does he think will be possible in the case of an independent central bank dedicated to a course of Euro-monetarism?

Jeremy Corbyn
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« Reply #415 on: July 08, 2017, 07:13:04 PM »
i  agree with  Watson on a lot of things even that asshole Robison

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« Reply #416 on: July 08, 2017, 07:36:29 PM »
All  Corbyn  did was tell a lot of middle class universerty  kids no tax for you

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« Reply #417 on: July 08, 2017, 07:36:58 PM »
If my hon. Friend is now envisaging the establishment of a federal Europe, will he not reflect that the Maastricht treaty does not take us in the direction of the checks and balances contained in the American federal constitution? It takes us in the opposite direction of an unelected legislative body—the Commission—and, in the case of foreign policy, a policy Commission that will be, in effect, imposing foreign policy on nation states that have fought for their own democratic accountability.

Q.E.D.


And I will ask for one final time...........

Party (Tory) OR Brexit ?
Choose.



Me I'd vote for Brexit every time.
You must choose.


There can be only one
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« Reply #418 on: July 08, 2017, 07:38:09 PM »
Its  BS  everyday

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« Reply #419 on: July 08, 2017, 07:53:35 PM »
Its  BS  everyday

Simple question . . .

BREIXT or Tory ?
Country or Party ?


Humour me, answer....

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« Reply #420 on: July 08, 2017, 08:01:05 PM »
Simple question . . .

BREIXT or Tory ?
Country or Party ?


Humour me, answer....

There you go Loaded question

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« Reply #421 on: July 08, 2017, 08:09:32 PM »
There you go Loaded question

I do agree.
It is a loaded question.

BUT : Its not my fault, that is the current situation.
Let me be clear, I am not endorsing 1980s militant socialist politics.

The bottom line, for me is BREXIT.

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« Reply #422 on: July 09, 2017, 04:46:45 PM »
For educational discussion

My understanding is that technically its not a loaded question because it does not contain the logical fallacy requirement.
I'm flexible on this because althought the above is true, I think its a good textbook example of a simple loaded question.

Its just not weaponized with a logical fallacy component.

Hence, I described it as "simple".
The key thing is you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

But in my book, "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't" is a practical working everyday definition.

And lastly, I did not create a paradox, the question simply reflects the "Through The Looking Glass" world we live in.

No worries.


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« Reply #423 on: July 21, 2017, 08:42:09 PM »
Corbyn is clearly a Bennite but the Labour Party itself is very pro-EU. Even many of Corbyn's allies. Theresa May, on the other hand, is a remainer but she's still allowed (and even expected) to be full throated on Brexit. It's far from an ideal choice, as you say. I'm not sure yet whether there's a right or wrong answer so I think everyone's just got to use their best judgment and hope it works out.

I'm also not as convinced as others that there'll be another general election before Article 50 expires so we may not have to face this horrible choice if we're lucky.

Another thing that worries me about Labour is not so much their general socialistic policies, but the derangement of their supporters. Even left-wing polling analysts found this to be a problem for them in 2015. The public are very concerned about handing these children state power. It's mentioned often but the Momentum crowd are the reason Farage needed to have bodyguards and are likely the reason you never see him with his kids.