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BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« on: February 14, 2016, 12:57:36 pm »
need a common thread for this ....  the "BrExit vote " will be coming this sommer:

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
The UK's EU vote: All you need to know
8 February 2016

What is happening?

The Conservatives' election manifesto promised to hold a referendum (a nationwide vote) on whether or not the UK should stay in or leave the European Union by the end of 2017. They won the election so it's all systems go.

What is a referendum?

A referendum is basically a vote in which everyone (or nearly everyone) of voting age can take part, normally giving a "Yes" or "No" answer to a question. Whichever side gets more than half of all votes cast is considered to have won.
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When will the EU referendum happen?

The one thing we know for sure is that Prime Minister David Cameron has said it will happen by the end of 2017. The most likely times of the year for referendums are generally May or September, and some people - including, it is said, the prime minister himself - think it should be held as soon as possible. There had been suggestions that it could be held in May 2016, to coincide with elections in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and London, rather than waiting for 2017 - but the government has ruled that out and June or September 2016 are now seen as most likely. Here is a full rundown of the likely dates and key events.

Why wasn't the referendum held earlier?

When David Cameron announced in January 2013 his pledge to hold a referendum, a key element was that he would seek to make changes to the way the European Union works - or at least the rules covering the UK as a European Union member. Only once this renegotiation of British membership had been completed would he put the new arrangement to the public vote.

 

I love Sir Michael Caine ...



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12114316/Sir-Michael-Caine-backs-leaving-EU-and-lashes-out-at-faceless-civil-servants-dictating-to-Britain.html
Sir Michael Caine backs leaving EU and lashes out at 'faceless civil servants' dictating to Britain

Oscar-winning actor says he has become 'convinced' by case for Brexit in boost for the Out campaign


Sir Michael Caine, one of Britain’s best known actors, has publicly backed exiting from the European Union as he lashed out at “faceless civil servants” making decisions for the UK.

The star of The Italian Job and Zulu told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that he is now “pretty certain” that Britain should be outside the EU.

He dismissed arguments that the country could be hit economically by saying Britons would “work harder" and "try harder” until life on the outside improved. 
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It comes with an In/Out referendum on Britain’s EU membership due by the end of 2017 but with a vote likely to come as early as this June.


London’s Finance Role Threatened by ‘Brexit:’ Lord Mayor
2 March 2015
, by Alex Morales (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-02/london-s-finance-role-threatened-by-brexit-lord-mayor

Excerpt:

The City of London’s role as Europe’s financial center is threatened by the prospect of a British departure from the European Union, Lord Mayor Alan Yarrow said.

Yarrow, a former Dresdner Kleinwort banker, said that he wasn’t in favor of a referendum on EU membership as advocated by Prime Minister David Cameron.

Yet if Cameron’s Conservative Party wins the May 7 election, it would be better if they brought the proposed referendum forward and held it in 2016 to remove instability, he said.

“We have the leading international financial center of the world: that cannot live on a hinterland of 65 million people,” Yarrow said in an interview at Mansion House in the City Monday.

“We are and will continue to be the financial center for Europe because we’ve got 600 million people sitting on our doorstep.”

The British prime minister has pledged to hold a referendum on whether to stay in the EU by the end of 2017 if his Conservatives are re-elected in the general election, and has held out the prospect of having a vote sooner.

The main opposition Labour Party’s policy is not to hold a ballot on EU membership.

Yarrow said he wasn’t in favor of a plebiscite, “because I think that the referendum appeals to emotions rather than rational argument.”

Referendums “are not necessarily a good way of governing a country,” he said.


London Banks Opposing Britain Exit From EU See U.K. Loss
8 April 2014
, by Stephanie Baker and Ben Moshinsky (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2014-04-08/london-banks-opposing-britain-exit-from-eu-see-u-k-loss.html

Excerpt:

From a corner conference room overlooking the Thames, Michael Sherwood, a vice chairman of Goldman Sachs Group Inc., has the guts to voice publicly what many in London’s centuries-old financial district are increasingly worried about behind closed doors: that threats to Britain’s membership in the European Union are threats to British business.

Over the past 15 years, Goldman, like many of the other 250 foreign-owned banks in the City, has consolidated its European operations in London to take advantage of the EU’s $16.6 trillion–a-year single market, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its May issue.

Wide-open access to that market is now in doubt because of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron’s promise to hold a referendum on EU membership by the end of 2017.

If Britain votes to quit the EU, Sherwood says, parts of London’s banking business would inevitably drift to Frankfurt and Paris.

“We want the U.K. to stay in Europe,” the 48-year-old banker says.

“The U.K. leaving the EU would lead to some sort of fragmentation of our business. The City would definitely be impacted.”

Sherwood is not alone in opposing a Brexit, as a British departure from the EU is known.

A 2013 survey by TheCityUK, a bank lobby group, found that 84% of finance industry leaders want the U.K. to remain a member of the EU.


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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2016, 01:01:36 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12156432/Brexit-would-see-Europe-lurch-very-much-in-the-wrong-direction-Philip-Hammond-warns.html
Brexit would see Europe 'lurch very much in the wrong direction', Philip Hammond warns

Foreign Secretary predicts a 'contagion' of other European counties could call for their own referendums if Britain left the EU
By  Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent, video source BBC / The Andrew Marr Show
10:39AM GMT 14 Feb 2016

Europe could fall apart if Britain votes to leave the EU and would "lurch very much in the wrong direction", the Foreign Secretary has warned.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2016, 02:43:10 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12156432/Brexit-would-see-Europe-lurch-very-much-in-the-wrong-direction-Philip-Hammond-warns.html
Brexit would see Europe 'lurch very much in the wrong direction', Philip Hammond warns

Foreign Secretary predicts a 'contagion' of other European counties could call for their own referendums if Britain left the EU
By  Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent, video source BBC / The Andrew Marr Show
10:39AM GMT 14 Feb 2016

Europe could fall apart if Britain votes to leave the EU and would "lurch very much in the wrong direction", the Foreign Secretary has warned.

I think that the US will not allow British abandonment of the EU. Also, I am sure that the US will not allow the disintegration of the EU.

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 01:21:28 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/15/angry-brits-launch-petition-telling-obama-stay-out-of-eu-referendum/
Brits Launch 5,000-Strong Petition Telling Obama: Stay Out of EU Referendum
by Nick Hallett 15 Feb 2016

Angry Britons have launched a petition calling for U.S. President Barack Obama to be prevented from speaking in the UK parliament on Britain’s forthcoming referendum on European Union (EU) membership.

The petition on the Parliament website, which has so far been signed by over 4,000 people, calls on ministers and MPs to stop Mr Obama using parliament as a platform to tell Britain to stay in the European Union.

If the petition reaches 10,000 signatures the government will be obliged to issue an official response, and if over 100,000 sign it will be considered for debate in parliament.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 03:01:02 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/15/angry-brits-launch-petition-telling-obama-stay-out-of-eu-referendum/
Brits Launch 5,000-Strong Petition Telling Obama: Stay Out of EU Referendum
by Nick Hallett 15 Feb 2016


Angry Britons have launched a petition calling for U.S. President Barack Obama to be prevented from speaking in the UK parliament on Britain’s forthcoming referendum on European Union (EU) membership.

The petition on the Parliament website, which has so far been signed by over 4,000 people, calls on ministers and MPs to stop Mr Obama using parliament as a platform to tell Britain to stay in the European Union.

If the petition reaches 10,000 signatures the government will be obliged to issue an official response, and if over 100,000 sign it will be considered for debate in parliament.
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  That made my day,,Obama, muck off...beautifull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 04:50:18 pm »
Well Prime Minister Dave is trying to convince us Brits that he is doing a fantastic job renegotiating are terms with the rest of the EU white elephant (BS imo )  As for how the UK will vote if you look at all the polls conducted it's to close to call , and most polls show an average of about 20% not sure how they will vote . Maybe drop it in the Elections Thread TB ?

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2016, 09:03:22 pm »
. Maybe drop it in the Elections Thread TB ?

yes but not yet ... the sparks are flying ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12160851/EU-deal-leaked-memo-European-leaders-plot-against-David-Cameron-live.html
Boris Johnson says 'no deal' to Cameron's EU reforms
but Angela Merkel says PM's demands are 'justified'

Warm words from Germany's Chancellor as Prime Minister attempts to appease Boris Johnson and Tory backbenchers over ongoing negotiations with EU leaders



By  Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent
7:10PM GMT 17 Feb 2016

• Angela Merkel: Cameron demands are 'justified and necessary'
• David Cameron seeks Boris Johnson's support over EU deal
Boris: 'No deal' as he leaves No10 summit with David Cameron
• France will tell David Cameron deal will not get any better
• Leaked text reveals bid to trim back Cameron's deal
Here are the numbers that will decide the EU referendum

END OF DAY SUMMARY

By Peter Dominiczak and Peter Foster

David Cameron has been warned there is "no guarantee" that European leaders will agree to his new EU deal after Germany and France prepared to make last-minute demands.

The Prime Minister will on Friday travel to Brussels for all-night talks to secure his plans for a renegotiated deal for Britain to remain a member of the EU. He is then planning to return to London on Friday to call the referendum after an English breakfast with 27 other leaders.

However, on Wednesday Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, published an open letter imploring EU leaders to back the deal being offered to Mr Cameron amid signs of discontent over the plan.

To the anger of eastern European leaders, Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, is understood to have privately indicated that Germany may also want access to a scheme negotiated by Mr Cameron to restrict migrant benefits. Meanwhile, the French are said to be refusing to sanction any change to EU treaties to accommodate British demands.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 01:39:54 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12166097/david-cameron-cabinet-leave-brexit-EU-referendum-june-23-live.html
EU referendum: June 23 date announced by David Cameron as Michael Gove says backing Brexit is 'most difficult political decision of my life'

Prime Minister announces EU referendum will be held on June 23 but senior ministers Michael Gove, John Whittingdale, Priti Patel, Theresa Villiers, Chris Grayling and Iain Duncan Smith all back Brexit


By  Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent
7:08PM GMT 20 Feb 2016


• David Cameron: Britain stronger and safer in reformed Europe
• When is the EU referendum? June 23 announced by PM
• Iain Duncan Smith, Priti Patel, John Whittingdale, Theresa Villiers, Chris Grayling and Michael Gove join Brexit campaign
• Michael Gove releases incredible statement on why we need Brexit
• Theresa May and Sajid Javid announce they will remain
• What would happen if we leave the EU?
• Who can vote in the UK EU referendum? What is Brexit?

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How the EU referendum starting gun was fired


Six top Tories join the Brexit campaign

Six Tory MPs pledged their commitment to restoring Britain's "sovereignty" as they announced they would be campaigning for the country's exit from the the EU.

Minutes after David Cameron announced the date for the referendum, Michael Gove, Iain Duncan Smith, Chris Grayling, Theresa Villiers, John Whittingdale and Priti Patel made the journey across the river to the headquarters for exit campaign group, Vote Leave.
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countdown:
http://cf-particle-html.eip.telegraph.co.uk/a8f14e94-d352-49a1-bd06-3613f3f45a15.html

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http://news.yahoo.com/uncharted-waters-brexit-115733952.html
What if? The uncharted waters of 'Brexit'
 Florence Biedermann
7 hours ago
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The City of London, Europe's most important financial centre, is hostile to a Brexit and its big hitters have already planned for various post-EU scenarios.

HSBC, Europe's biggest bank, has warned that 1,000 jobs could shift from London to Paris.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 01:59:14 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12166968/eu-referendum-david-cameron-boris-johnson-live.html

Boris Johnson backs Brexit campaign in EU referendum - only confirming with David Cameron via text minutes before announcement
Boris Johnson emailed David Cameron on Saturday to tell him he would back Brexit but only confirmed by text nine minutes before announcing his decision publicly

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Boris Johnson backs LEAVE campaign

Boris Johnson has joined the campaign to leave the European Union, putting himself at loggerheads with David Cameron and George Osborne.

The Mayor of London emailed the Prime Minister yesterday to inform him of his decision but he only confirmed by text message just nine minutes before his public statement today.
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 Amid chaotic scenes, Mr Johnson insisted that he had agonised over the decision before finally declaring his hand.

"The last thing I wanted was to go against David Cameron or the Government but after a great deal of heartache I don't think there is anything else I can do," he said.

"I will be advocating vote leave ... because I want a better deal for the people of this country to save them money and to take back control."

It will come as a major blow to Mr Cameron and will be seen as a coup for the “Leave” campaign.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 05:05:15 pm »
No real surprise Boris Johnson backs LEAVE campaign ,he has always been an EU sceptic . Now the sides are drawn up, I am hoping that as this issue effects all political parties in the UK the various vote no groups can get themselves organised into a united fighting force on the subject .

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2016, 06:56:00 pm »
And sparks are flying ... "The City" is not happy .... What? Let the villeins vote on their slavery?

I really like the Telegraphs coverage btw ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12167851/eu-referendum-david-cameron-faces-mps-after-boris-johnson-backs-brexit-live.html
Fragile Tory truce over EU referendum shattered as David Cameron savages Boris Johnson
PM accuses Mayor of London of backing Brexit in bid for Tory leadership
By  Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent
5:58PM GMT 22 Feb 2016
   
David Cameron launches astonishing attack on Boris Johnson
• Boris attacks PM's 'wildly exaggerated' Brexit fears
• How the Tories descended into open warfare over the EU
• Exclusive: Boris explains why he is joining Leave campaign
Boris's dad Stanley: It could be career-ending for him
Pound suffers biggest drop in a year after Boris declaration
• Culture minister bets £1,000 Cameron will stay on as PM post-Brexit


The Conservative truce over the European Union referendum on Monday collapsed as the Prime Minister attacked Boris Johnson and Cabinet ministers openly criticised one another.

In a sign of the deepening divisions over the in-out referendum, David Cameron used a Commons appearance to openly condemn Mr Johnson, who on Sunday announced that he would campaign to take Britain of the EU.

Mr Cameron suggested that Mr Johnson made his decision simply in order to further his own ambition to become prime minister.

He also described as “for the birds” an apparent suggestion by Mr Johnson that Britain could vote to leave the EU before negotiating a better settlement with Brussels.

The Prime Minister is said to be “livid” with Mr Johnson, who on Monday indicated that Mr Cameron and his allies are “wildly exaggerating” when they claim that a “Brexit” would be a “leap in the dark”.

Referring to his own commitment to step down before the next election, Mr Cameron said: “I am not standing for re-election, I have no other agenda than what is best for our country.”
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2016, 03:20:02 pm »
Now a THREAT from Cameron ...:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12172808/EU-referendum-Michael-Gove-David-Cameron-Boris-Johnson-Brexit.html
EU referendum: Senior Conservatives claim Cameron's deal will do nothing to reduce migrant influx

David Cameron is facing a fresh assault on his EU renegotiation deal, as net migration figures released today still don't hit the government's target  benefit rules will have an “impact” on the numbers of European Union migrants coming to the UK.

Speaking at BAE Systems’ Eurofighter Typhoon assembly plant in Preston, Lancashire, the Prime Minister confirmed he was still ambitious to bring net immigration into the UK below 100,000, but Downing Street have declined to put a timeframe on the target being met.

The Prime Minister’s remarks will be interpreted as a slapdown to Work and Pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith, who has said that the deal will make “no” difference to EU migrant levels.

He warned that an independent Britain would not be able to stop European Union migrants crossing the border into the UK and said leaving the European Union could put Britain’s collaboration with France over defence projects at risk and threaten jobs in the British defence industry

Annual UK net migration is 323,000, as Government fails to meet target

The Office for National Statistics published the latest migration figures today and they show 165,000 EU citizens moved to the UK for work reasons and that the number of asylum claims has risen to 38,878, a 20 per cent increase on last year.

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Priti Patel: We cannot control our borders while we remain members of the EU


Responding to the publication of the latest migration figures from the Office for National Statistics, Employment Minister Priti Patel said the proposed deal would do nothing to reduce the level of immigration from the EU.

She said: "It will leave unelected politicians in Brussels and judges from the EU Court in control of our borders. The only way to take back control is to Vote Leave."


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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 06:20:56 pm »
Geez ... thanks for letting us look at your thieving documents eh?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12179944/Head-of-the-civil-service-says-Brexit-ministers-will-get-access-to-EU-documents.html
Head of the civil service says Brexit ministers will get access to EU documents

Ministers campaigning for the UK to leave the EU will get access to EU documents after all, Sir Jeremy Heywood has told a committee of MPs
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By Kate McCann and Christopher Hope
10:00PM GMT 01 Mar 2016

Britain's most senior civil servant has backed down in a row over European Union papers and pledged that eurosceptic ministers can see all the facts they want to.


Sir Jeremy Heywood said complaints that senior ministers will not be allowed to see documents about the EU if they have declared themselves for Brexit are the result of a "misunderstanding".

He dismissed claims that he is deliberately trying to prevent some ministers from seeing EU papers, adding: "This talk of conspiracy or bypassing is well wide of the mark, we have no intention of doing that."

Instead he told MPs that ministers who do not back the Government's position, including Iain Duncan Smith the work and pensions secretary, will be entitled to see all documents but will not get proactive briefings or help with speeches which would allow them to attack the Prime Minister.
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2016, 03:53:12 pm »
Well the establishment will continue with there scare offensive  ' A leap in the dark ' is there favourite sentence (which is of course BS the UK managed before we joined the EU). I think the problem for the no campaign is the younger generation dont know anything but being part of the EU .

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2016, 08:41:09 pm »
well in the Sheffield forum about 70% want out in their poll.  I see the eu is using their usual scare tactics - stay in or there will be consequences.


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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2016, 10:52:14 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/07/bank-of-england-to-pump-cash-into-markets-around-eu-referendum-a/
Bank of England to pump cash into markets around EU referendum amid fear of bank run
By Tim Wallace 
 7 March 2016 • 7:10pm   

Banks will be offered billions of pounds of extra liquidity by the Bank of England, in case markets seize up in the weeks around the EU referendum in June.
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"It is a safety net, it is there just in case it is needed, but there is no guarantee it will be used. It is there to bolster confidence. If Brexit does happen it will be a momentous event. [The impact on markets] is very uncertain, so it is very prudent to have safety nets in place

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12185806/EU-leaders-meet-to-discuss-migrant-crisis-latest.html
Britain to pay £500 million under grand migrant swap plan for Turkey

Thousands of Syrian refugees could be taken from Turkey and resettled in Europe, under "one-for-one" migrant swap deal
By  Matthew Holehouse, Brussels, Peter Foster and Raziye Akkoc
12:14AM GMT 07 Mar 2016

Tens of thousands of Syrian refugees will be taken directly from Turkey to Europe in a “one-for-one” swap with those on the Greek islands, in a highly ambitious bid to contain Europe's worst migrant crisis since the Second World War.

The grand bargain drawn up in Brussels - and agreed in principle at midnight on Monday - is intended to end the deadly Aegean sea crossings and encourage refugees to stay in Turkish camps by offering them the prospect of a flight direct to the EU.

British taxpayers will pay £500 million in aid, up from an initial £250 million agreed in October as EU leaders acceded to Turkey’s surprise demand to double its pay outs to €6 billion (£4.6 billion) by the end of 2018.

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David Davis, the former Conservative shadow home secretary, said: “We are being held to ransom by the Turkish government. The EU is a very weak negotiator in these matters.”
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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2016, 03:53:37 pm »
Queen Elizabeth Backs Britain Leaving The European Union

Happy And Glorious’: Queen Elizabeth Backs Britain Leaving The European Union
 



Her Majesty the Queen is apparently backing the idea of Britain leaving the European Union (EU), according to a source cited by the Sun newspaper on Tuesday evening.

The Queen, who usually stays out of day-to-day politics in the United Kingdom, is believed to have “let rip” at the former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg at a private meeting at Windsor Castle during the last parliament.

The Sun reports:

THE Queen has been hailed as a backer of Brexit tonight after details emerged of an extraordinary alleged bust-up between her and Nick Clegg over Europe.

Her Majesty let rip at the then Deputy PM during a lunch at Windsor Castle, The Sun has been told.

The 89-year-old monarch firmly told passionate pro-European Mr Clegg that she believed the EU was heading in the wrong direction.

Her stinging reprimand went on for “quite a while”, leaving other guests around the table stunned.

The account of the bombshell lunch during the last government – which a handful of other government ministers also attended – has been relayed to The Sun by a highly reliable source.

The senior source said: “People who heard their conversation were left in no doubt at all about the Queen’s views on European integration.

“It was really something, and it went on for quite a while.

“The EU is clearly something Her Majesty feels passionately about.”

The monarch is also said to have revealed her Eurosceptic feelings during a separate conversation with MPs at a Buckingham Palace reception.

One of a group of Parliamentarians in a circle with her at the time asked Her Majesty for her thoughts on Brussels.

The Queen is said to have snapped back angrily: “I don’t understand Europe”.

A parliamentary source, who relayed the remark to The Sun, said: “It was said with quite some venom and emotion. I shall never forget it”.

Buckingham Palace’s spokesmen have distanced themselves from the story however – as is usual when the details of private conversations are leaked. They told the Sun: “The Queen remains politically neutral, as she has for 63 years. We would never comment on spurious, anonymously sourced claims. The referendum will be a matter for the British people.”

And former Deputy PM Nick Clegg tersely responded: “I have absolutely no recollection of it. I don’t have a photographic memory. But I think I would have remembered something as stark or significant as you have made it out to be.

“No doubt you’ll speak to someone else and they’ll say, ‘I was there I heard it’. Fine. But I really can’t remember it at all. Anyway, without sounding pompous, I find it rather distasteful to reveal conversations with the Queen.”

Mr. Clegg previously lost two, major, televised debates on Britain’s membership of the European Union. He took on the UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage in successive debates, losing twice to the anti-EU firebrand.

Brexit (British exit) campaigners have naturally welcomed the news.

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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2016, 08:06:59 pm »
The Telegraph keeps pumping out articles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/09/from-bust-to-boom-is-iceland-a-brexiters-paradise/
A Brexit paradise: How Iceland's 'Project Fear' backfired
By Mehreen Khan 
 9 March 2016 • 6:55pm   

BEYOND THE EU SERIES: As the debate about the UK’s membership of the  European Union heats up and ahead of the June referendum, we examine four non-EU economies to see if they could provide a model for Britain’s post-Brexit future


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As pro-Brexit campaigners decry the “Project Fear” tactics deployed in the UK’s referendum debate, Iceland witnessed something more akin to “Project Apocalypse” in the aftermath of the crash.

Where Britons are warned of the potentially cataclysmic implications of a UK exit from the European Union, Icelanders were sold a tale of perma-doom that would plague the island until it became a member of the bloc.

It was in the wake of this turmoil that Iceland formally launched its bid to become a full member state of the European Union in July 2009.


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It was amid this triumphalism that Iceland’s then left-leaning government began accession talks.

Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson, Iceland’s current prime minister, says the membership debate was dominated by fears over Iceland’s very survival.

“Without membership we were doomed," says Gunnlaugsson, who became Iceland’s youngest prime minister aged just 38 in 2013.

"There was never any discussion about the ideals and nature of the European Union or whether that was something Icelanders wanted to be part of," he says.

“The application was simply presented as an economic necessity with claims that as soon as we applied, we would improve our credibility internationally and the euro would be the solution to all our problems."

But Iceland’s Project Fear failed.

Free to operate an independent monetary policy and allow its currency to slide, Iceland was soon brought back from the precipice. Its export sector - dominated by fisheries and energy - quickly began to thrive.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 12:28:52 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson/12190736/EU-referendum-Boris-Johnson-fires-up-the-Brexit-juggernaut.html
EU referendum: Boris Johnson fires up the Brexit juggernaut

SKETCH: The Mayor of London makes his first major speech of the EU referendum – and then leaps behind the wheel of his campaign team’s lorry

By  Michael Deacon, Parliamentary Sketchwriter
3:10PM GMT 11 Mar 2016
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Boris Johnson, the Conservative Mayor of London, campaigning for Britain to leave the European Union
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“Downsides,” said Boris, thoughtfully. “Look, I don’t think there are any substantial downsides.
I think the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
And even fear isn’t particularly scary at the moment!”
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 03:06:39 pm »
I think the exit campaign is finally getting underway , of course Prime Minister Dave's reply to what Boris said was the mantra  It's a leap in the dark to vote for exit . I am quite surprised at how low key bothsides have been so far .

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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2016, 06:41:28 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html
Brexit campaign has the edge
Exclusive poll for The Telegraph shows that Out supporters are more motivated to win
By  Peter Dominiczak, and Steven Swinford
10:00PM GMT 14 Mar 2016

Supporters of Brexit are more likely to vote in the forthcoming referendum which could give the Leave campaign a decisive edge in the final result, a new Telegraph poll suggests.
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2016, 05:31:15 pm »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/02/eu-referendum-young-voters-brexit-leave

EU referendum: poll shows young voters could hold key in June vote

Leave campaign four points ahead in survey that shows just half of 18-34s are certain to cast their vote on 23 June

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In a blow to David Cameron and the pro-EU camp, the online survey by Opinium puts the Leave side on 43%, four points ahead of Remain, on 39%. Some 18% of voters said they were undecided, while 1% refused to say.
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2016, 04:04:36 am »
Let me see: Scotland do not want to leave EU, Wales and Northern Ireland do not want to leave EU, Germany do not want GB out of EU.
That will be tough in English hearts and souls.

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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2016, 03:06:18 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/07/politics-live-governments-9million-anti-brexit-letter-sparks-fur/

Tories at war over EU 'propaganda' leaflet as MPs threaten to 'grind Government to a halt' in protest at David Cameron

By Kate McCann,  Senior Political Correspondent  and
 Michael Wilkinson,  Political Correspondent 
 7 April 2016 • 8:35pm   



David Cameron: "I make no apology for sending this leaflet
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Boris Johnson brands it "a waste of money" and "hysterical"
Vote Leave claims PM using leaflet to distract from tax issue
Michael Fallon: 'Leaflet is moderate and restrained'
The Government's leaflet arguing for Britain to remain in the EU

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Michael Gove say it is 'wrong' to spend £9million on leaflet

Michael Gove has attacked the decision to spend more than £9 million of taxpayers' cash on "one-sided propaganda" rather than the NHS after David Cameron insisted it was "money well spent".

The Justice Secretary - one of four Cabinet ministers campaigning for the "leave" vote on June 23 - said it was "wrong".

"I want a fair campaign, I want to hear from both sides," he told the BBC.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/514655/why-the-government-believes-that-voting-to-remain-in-the-european-union-is-the-best-decision-for-the-uk.pdf

Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK.
The EU referendum, Thursday, 23rd June 2016.
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2016, 01:38:15 pm »
This is good - Doesn't seem like Boris Johnson has gone to the good side of the force ?   This, even though he was a member of the Hellfire club with Rothschild?   Interesting ... Calling Obama a hypocrite ... making statements of fact ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3541731/Boris-lashes-hypocrite-Obama-ahead-flying-visit-Britain-week-endorse-PM-s-campaign-Britain-EU.html

Boris lashes out at 'hypocrite' Obama ahead of his flying visit to Britain next week to endorse the PM's campaign to keep Britain in the EU
President making a flying visit to Britain next week on the way to Germany
The visit is officially part of celebrations to mark the Queen's 90th birthday
But Obama expected to strongly back campaign to keep Britain in Europe

Boris Johnson today demanded the President keep out of the Brexit battle
By Tim Sculthorpe, Mailonline Deputy Political Editor
Published: 06:51 EST, 15 April 2016  | Updated: 09:47 EST, 15 April 2016

Boris Johnson blasted Barack Obama as a 'hypocrite'
today as the US President prepares to visit Britain and endorse the campaign to keep Britain in the EU.

The London Mayor lashed out at Mr Obama as details of his visit next week became clear.

Air Force One will land in Britain on Thursday and Mr Obama will meet the Queen as part of her 90th birthday celebrations before he heads to Downing Street for talks with David Cameron.

The White House has made clear for the first time Mr Obama will make a 'very candid' endorsement of Mr Cameron's campaign during his visit.

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Comments:

Invicta_Kent, Kent, United Kingdom, 11 minutes ago

The sooner we are free from our Brussels oppressors the better. I have nothing but total and utter contempt and hatred for the EU and the political elite like Jackboot Juncker. We were taken into Europe by Edward Heath, a liar and a traitor whose only useful act was to die.

Cameron has done nothing to stand up for us - why should we believe what he says?

EU law is rubbish, as are the EU commissioners and I have more respect for s sheet of used lavatory paper than I do for the EU flag.


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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2016, 04:08:39 pm »
yes its all about BO ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3553788/Obama-flies-Brexit-storm-President-faces-furious-backlash-downright-hypocritical-decision-tell-British-voters-stay-EU.html

Obama under fire as he threatens to send Britain 'to the back of the queue' if it votes to leave the European Union
President Obama sparked fury by pressuring UK to stay in the EU and telling its citizens their nation's stranding would be diminished if it leaves
A US-UK trade agreement is not going to happen 'any time soon,' Obama warned today
London Mayor Boris Johnson accused him of making an 'incoherent' and 'inconsistent' argument because the U.S. would never give up sovereignty
EU agreement allows for the free flow of citizens across member nations' borders; U.S. does not allow Mexicans to come over without papers
Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron organized a pro-EU blitz
The U.S. President and  First Lady Michelle also lunched with the Queen in honor of her 90th birthday

By Francesca Chambers, White House Correspondent and Euan McLelland and Matt Dathan, Political Correspondent For Mailonline

Published: 08:29 EST, 22 April 2016  | Updated: 14:41 EST, 22 April 2016


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BORIS JOHNSON BRANDED 'RACIST' AFTER HIS ATTACK ON 'PART-KENYAN' BARACK OBAMA

The Mayor of London (pictured outside his north London home this morning) spoke out against the U.S. president this morning


Boris Johnson was accused of 'dog whistle racism' and likened to right-wing 'Tea Party' politicians in the U.S. this morning after his attack on the 'part-Kenyan' Barack Obama.


The Mayor of London spoke out against the U.S. president after he urged British voters to stay in the EU and mentioned Obama's African ancestry as he criticized the decision to remove a bust of Sir Winston Churchill from the Oval Office shortly after Obama entered the White House.

Johnson - who is favorite to succeed David Cameron as prime minister - suggested Obama got rid of the statue as a 'snub' to Britain's wartime prime minister and a 'symbol of the part-Kenyan President's ancestral dislike of the British empire'.

UK Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell demanded Johnson withdraw the controversial remarks.

He wrote on Twitter: 'Mask slips again. Boris part-Kenyan Obama comment is yet another example of dog whistle racism from senior Tories. He should withdraw it.'

Johnson's team has yet to respond to MailOnline's request for comment.

Diane Abbott, Shadow International Development Secretary, described Johnson's remarks as 'offensive' and said they echoed those of the Tea Party's right-wing, anti-immigration tendency in the U.S.

Former Lib Dem leader Lord Campbell said Johnson's comments were 'an unacceptable smear'.

'Many people will find Boris Johnson's loaded attack on President Obama's sincerity deeply offensive,' Lord Campbell said.

'If this is an illustration of the kind of diplomacy that we might expect from a Johnson leadership of the Tory Party then heaven help us.'

Referring to the removal of Sir Winston's bust, Johnson wrote in The Sun today : 'No one was sure whether the President had himself been involved in the decision,' he said.

'Some said it was a snub to Britain. Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan President's ancestral dislike of the British empire - of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.' 

Responding to the controversial remarks, Abbott said: 'Boris dismissing president Obama as 'half-Kenyan' reflects the worst Tea Party rhetoric'.

Obama shed light on the matter at today's news conference. The bust now sits outside his personal office in the residence area of White House.

'It’s there voluntarily, because I can do anything on the second floor,' Obama said. 'I love Winston Churchill. I love the guy.'

George W. Bush kept it in the Oval Office, Obama explained, but here are only so many tables where you can put busts, otherwise it starts looking a little cluttered.'

'And I thought it was appropriate, and I suspect most people here in the United Kingdom might agree, that as the first African-American President, it might be appropriate to have a bust of Dr. Martin Luther King in my office to remind me of all the hard work of a lot of people who would somehow allow me to have the privilege of holding this office.'


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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2016, 12:12:15 am »
  Chance Of Brexit Plummets Following Obama Intervention


Daily Caller
April 26, 2016

President Barack Obama’s Brexit intervention over the weekend appears to have been successful, with the chance of Brexit dropping to an all-time low, according to bookmakers and market experts.

Obama campaigned in London alongside British Prime Minister David Cameron to convince Britons to vote to remain in the European Union when they hit the polls June 24. The chance of Brexit went from an all-time high of 37 percent April 18, down to an all-time low of 26 percent Monday, according to aggregated odds from British bookmakers.

The value of the British pound responded to the new odds by reaching a six-week high against the Euro.

“The might of Obama’s public relations has helped [the pound] sterling reach highs against the euro, as odds swing against the Brexit campaign,” Tobias Davis, head of corporate treasury sales at Western Union, told Reuters.

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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2016, 12:54:27 am »
Yeah, the pro-EU commentariat have been smugly dancing on our graves since the Obama visit. The hero worship was quite sickening. Except, over the last couple of days we've had our first polls taken either during (and after) or after his visit and they all show a boost for Leave. Even the phone polls show us catching up and they've always been better for Remain.

26th April

ICM (online)
Remain 44(+1)
Leave 46(+2)

ORB (phone)
Remain 51(-1)
Leave 46(+3)

27th April

Survation (phone)
Remain 45(-1)
Leave 38(+3)

YouGov (online)
Remain 41(+1)
Leave 42(+3)

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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2016, 12:59:08 am »
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  Except, over the last couple of days we've had our first polls taken either during (and after) or after his visit and they all show a boost for Leave.   

Many in the USA support a Brexit and think it's a good idea.
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« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2016, 01:14:41 am »
^^^^^^^^

  Yes, the Brits are screwed like we are in the USA RIGHT NOW.

  Both countries are run by globalists---Cameron and Obama.

  Therefore, the masses (the peasants), should always be against what the globalists want.

  The globalists hate their own countries.  They don't want borders.  They love the NWO and themselves.
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2016, 09:33:23 pm »
Oh yeah, I know many Americans want us out too. If the globalist win anywhere, that's a loss for all of us.

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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2016, 10:09:32 pm »
Former U.K. Spy Chief Says `Brexit' Security Cost `Would Be Low'
24 March 2016
, by Robert Hutton (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-24/former-u-k-spy-chief-says-brexit-security-cost-would-be-low

U.K. Losing Millions of Pounds to EU Funding Errors, Panel Says
26 April 2016
, by Thomas Penny (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-26/u-k-losing-millions-of-pounds-to-eu-funding-errors-panel-says

Tories Face Losing Votes to UKIP After EU Vote, Academics Say
27 April 2016
, by Alex Morales (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-27/tories-face-losing-votes-to-ukip-after-eu-vote-academics-say


Personally I hope the people in Britain will be wise and vote for a Brexit also for the rest of Europe but I am afraid that vote rigging by the CIA/MI5-6 will prevent that just like with Scotland.

I personally voted against the European constitution (Just like the Irish and the French) and most recently against the Ukraine treaty with the Netherlands.

Despite a 'no' vote of the majority the constitution was rammed trough and I think the same will happen with the Ukraine treaty.

But by ignoring democracy country's leaders and the EU reveal it's real fascistic face.
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2016, 02:48:36 pm »
Bank of England busy preparing for Brexit vote 


Chris Giles
Financial Times
May 2, 2016

The Bank of England is consumed with preparing contingency plans for Britain to leave the EU, with staff across its financial stability, monetary policy and regulatory wings ready to calm any turmoil.

In the days leading up to the June 23 poll, the Bank will hold additional auctions of sterling to ensure the banking system has sufficient funds to operate in a potentially chaotic moment.

Three exceptional auctions of cash have already been planned for June 14, 21 and 28. But stuffing the banks full of cash will not prevent foreigners and UK households and companies dumping sterling in the event of a Brexit vote.

Michael Saunders, the new member of the bank’s Monetary Policy Committee, expects the pound to come under severe pressure. While still at Citi, he wrote that Brexit risks were “nowhere near priced yet”, adding that Britain should expect a 15 to 20 per cent depreciation of sterling against Britain’s main trading partners.

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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2016, 04:21:53 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/02/the-eu-exists-only-to-become-a-superstate-britain-has-no-place-i/
The EU exists only to be come a superstate. Britain has no place in it
By Nigel Lawson
2 May 2016 • 5:14pm   

For Britain, the issue in the coming European referendum is not Europe, with its great history, incomparable culture, and diverse peoples, but the European Union.
...

In Britain, and perhaps also in the US, that has been much less well understood, particularly within the business community, who sometimes find it hard to grasp that politics can trump economics.
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But in the background there has always been another political objective behind European economic integration, one which is now firmly in the foreground.

That is the creation of a federal European superstate, a United States of Europe. Despite the resonance of the phrase, not one of the conditions that contributed to making a success of the United States of America exists in the case of the EU.

But that is what the EU is all about. That is its sole raison d’être. And, unlike the first objective, it is profoundly misguided.
For the United Kingdom to remain in the EU would be particularly perverse, since not even our political elites wish to see this country absorbed into a United States of Europe.

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Moreover, once out of the EU the UK would no longer have to pay its annual EU subscription of some £10 billion a year and rising for nothing in return – yes, nothing, for the figure is calculated after netting off everything British farmers and scientists and others at present receive from the EU. Nor would UK business and industry have to carry the burden of excessive European regulation, which bears down particularly hard on the small and medium-sized enterprises sector.

Yes, British businesses would have to conform to EU regulation when exporting to the EU, just as they have to conform to US regulations when exporting to the United States.

But exports to the EU represent only some 13 per cent of UK GDP, and the proportion is declining.
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We are told that EU membership is necessary for our security in a dangerous world. We do indeed live in a dangerous world, and security is certainly of the first importance. But this has nothing whatever to do with either the EU or Britain’s membership of it.

What it has got to do with is Nato, of which the UK is a leading member and the only major EU country with a commitment to spend 2 per cent of GDP on defence, plus our special intelligence relationship with the US, and the wider “Five Eyes” intelligence agreement, which also includes Canada, Australia and New Zealand, which is crucial for our ability to defend our people against terrorists. None of these countries were members of the EU when I last checked.

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But it is abundantly clear is that the EU as we know it now is profoundly undemocratic. This is a matter of concern to many people throughout the EU.

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Membership of the EU, however well-intentioned, is an affront to self-government; and it offers nothing that remotely compensates for this.

What the British people want, and what we now have in our grasp, is a genuinely global future as a self‑governing democracy.
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« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2016, 01:39:28 pm »
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36219612
EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit
9 hours ago


 The UK would be "better off without" the European Union, US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has said.

He told Fox News the migration crisis had been a "horrible thing for Europe" and blamed the EU for driving it.

The Republican said he was not making a "recommendation" but his "feeling" was that the UK should vote to sever ties with the EU in its 23 June referendum.

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He said Britain was at its best when "helping to lead" a strong EU and membership made it a "bigger player" on the world stage.
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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2016, 09:26:23 pm »
 A great shot a globalism.

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« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2016, 11:33:31 am »
Gee How many Bulgarian/Romanians are touristing in Britain ?
Gee WE DONT KNOW AND IF WE DID WE WOULDNT TELL YOU ...  HAHAHAHA 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/the-missing-million-are-we-undercounting-britains-immigrants/
The missing million: Are we undercounting Britain's immigrants

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It was 1 January 2014 – the first day Romanians and Bulgarians were granted unrestricted access to the UK – and Mr Vaz had come to Luton Airport to greet some of the first arrivals in person. He even took some for coffee.

Not every arrival since then has been so well charted – or charted at all.

Now concerns have been raised that Britain’s official system of measuring immigration – based on a survey initially designed to count tourists rather than migrants – could be significantly understating the number of people moving from the European Union to live and work in Britain.

Critics of the system have highlighted a difference of more than 1.2 million between the official figures for the number of EU nationals moving to Britain in the past five years, estimated by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), and the number of National Insurance numbers issued to those from the EU during the same period
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The size of the gap has also thrown a spotlight on the difficulties of accurately measuring Britain’s total population, with academics suggesting a variety of improvements that could be made.

Why now?

The Government has long promised to cut net migration to the “tens of thousands”, but the issue has become more politically charged this year, ahead of the EU referendum


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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2016, 01:59:54 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/eu-referendum-itv-accused-of-a-stitch-up-and-threatened-over-dec/
EU referendum: Iain Duncan Smith says Treasury is 'worst thing in Britain' as BoE warns Brexit could trigger recession
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Brexit campaign threaten ITV with legal action

ITV has defended itself against Vote Leave accusations that it has "joined the official In campaign" in the EU referendum, after it announced plans for a programme pitching David Cameron against Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

John Whittingdale, the eurosceptic Culture Secretary, said it was "extroardinary" that ITV isn't inviting anyone from Vote Leave to be part of its debate.

A Downing Street source indicated that the Prime Minister had ruled out "blue-on-blue" TV clashes with pro-Brexit Conservatives like Boris Johnson or Michael Gove, as he thought it important to "demonstrate the breadth of the debate rather than focus on a narrow issue in the Tory party".
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Vote Leave, which has been designated the official Out campaign, accused ITV of "stitching up" a deal with Number 10 to exclude its most prominent spokesmen in favour of Mr Farage - who supports the Grassroots Out group - and said it was considering legal action over the June 7 programme's line-up.

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Boris distances himself from Vote Leave attack on ITV and No 10

Boris Johnson repeatedly refused to endorse Vote Leave's attack on ITV and Number 10 as he distanced himself from the row about referendum debates


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He added the more people "bang on" about debates the mores voters' "eyes glaze over".

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Carney: Brexit could cause pound to plunge and hit growth

The Governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney has today said that Brexit "could possibly lead to a formal recession", with GDP falling for two consecutive quarters.

He also warned that Brexit could see the pound "fall further perhaps sharply" and lead to a "materially lower path for growth".
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Mr Johnson, the former London mayor backing an Out vote, will attack the EU's record on securing trade deals in a speech in the South West this morning.

He is expected is say: "If we Vote Leave we will be able to forge bold new trade deals with growing economies around the world. These are deals that the EU has tried and failed to achieve due to protectionist forces in Europe.

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Re: Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2016, 08:01:32 pm »
Mainstream media headlines today are focused on Britain's record national debt, which just surpassed £1 trillion, a figure that can only exponentially increase unless the entire mechanism of Government finance is overhauled. The truth however is much worse, factoring in all liabilities including state and public sector pensions, the real national debt is closer to £4.8 trillion, some £78,000 for every person in the UK.
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