FLUORIDATION - Mind Control for the Masses (long, *bombshell info*)

[JTCoyoté]

Well, you're one in 1 million...

Oh, make sure that the basket in your percolator isn't aluminum... the tannic acid in coffee produces aluminum oxide in every cup... and your body doesn't fare much better with stainless steel... all that nickel you know.

JTCoyoté

"God grants liberty only to those who love it,
and are always ready to guard and defend it."
~Daniel Webster

[freeflying]

Well, you're one in 1 million...

Oh, make sure that the basket in your percolator isn't aluminum... the tannic acid in coffee produces aluminum oxide in every cup... and your body doesn't fare much better with stainless steel... all that nickel you know.

JTCoyoté

"God grants liberty only to those who love it,
and are always ready to guard and defend it."
~Daniel Webster

Got a old iron one, I don't mind a few grounds at the bottom of the pot. Just put the water and coffee in and let it boil and then settle and pour off the top. I cook on cast iron and mostly in a cast iron wok as I can cook a great meal in about 20 minutes from the meat being raw. Also got a lot of glass cookware as well and I don't own a plastic cup. Pure cane for a sweetener or I use agave nectar, damn that stuff is potent and tastes great .

For coffee I use organic and have a few friends around the world that send me coffee from different areas like Ethiopia grown by organic coffee farmers .

[Monkeypox]

Is the goal to put fluoride in EVERYTHING?

[JBS]

Health over profit is still the norm, plus the resulting bad health brings in more billions of $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$. Basically they get rich slowly killing you and laughing all the way to their banks. What a great society this is.

I use glass and stainless steel fine screen.

[LG]

Mine is a Bunn. Made of plastic.

[JBS]

Health over profit is still the norm, plus the resulting bad health brings in more billions of $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$. Basically they get rich slowly killing you and laughing all the way to their banks. What a great society this is.

I use glass and stainless steel fine screen.

Make that profit over health...

[Brocke]

I found this while clicking. Ready for a sick and twisted joke?

Disclosed herein are partially fluorinated (co)polymers containing sulfonic acid or sulfonate salt groups, processes for making those polymers, and intermediates for those (co)polymers. The (co)polymers are useful as ion-exchange resins and (in the sulfonic acid form) acid catalysts.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5830962.html


Ion-exchange resins as in Ion-exchange Water Filters. They are fluoridating water filters.

[JTCoyoté]

This is what is being dumped into the municipal water supplies in 70% of this country's towns and cities.



JTCoyoté

"I fear not, I see not reason for fear.
In the end we will be the victors. For
though at times the flame of liberty
may cease to shine, the ember will
never expire."
~Thomas Paine

[Dig]

European Court Ruling spells an end to water fluoridation
http://www.infowars.com/european-court-ruling-spells-an-end-to-water-fluoridation/
Doug Cross UK Council Against Water Fluoridation July 22, 2009

Fluoridated water must be treated as a medicine, and cannot be used to prepare foods. That is the decision of the European Court of Justice, in a landmark case dealing with the classification and regulation of ‘functional drinks’ in member states of the European Community. (HLH Warenvertriebs and Orthica (Joined Cases C-211/03, C-299/03, C-316/03 and C-318/03) 9 June 2005)

Functional drinks are those products that have two different purposes – for example, nutrition and exerting a positive effect on some medical condition. They include ‘near-water drinks with added minerals’ and, in view of the properties claimed for fluoridated water by fluoride advocates, it must be classified as a ‘funtional food’, and therefore falls within the scope of the relevant legislation.

Medicinal law takes precedent over food law.

The Court ruled that, where two different sets of rules appear to apply to a product, medicinal legislation must take precedent, and the product must be regulated as a medicine. It emphasised that medicines regulators in member states do not have the power to exercise discretion on the classification of such dual-function products. The repeated refusal of the British and Irish Regulators to recognise fluoridated water as a medicinal product is therefore an unlawful misuse of their powers, and one that requires immediate reversal.

ECJ rulings do not establish new laws, but clarify how existing ones should be applied, and are enforceable in the domestic legislation of all member states of the EC. In effect, this decision at last confirms the claim that I have made for many years – that existing medicinal law has always required that fluoridated water be regulated as a medicine. Fluoridated water has no medicinal marketing authorization (’product licence’), and because of this it is – and always has been – illegal to supply it to the public, as the 1968 Medicines Act confirms.

As a ‘medicinal water’, the protection afforded by the water quality regulations that shield consumers from hazardous substances in drinking water does not apply. Its use in the processing of foodstuffs is also prohibited, under the food safety legislation. Aa a direct result of this ruling, all English and Irish legislation providing for water fluoridation are at last exposed as having been in violation of that fundamental prohibition, and must now be repealed.

Prohibition of use of fluoridated water in foods

But the Court also ruled that such functional food products must not be used in the preparation of foods. As a ‘medicinal water’ the fluoridated product cannot be regarded as equivalent to the mandatory ‘water for human consumption’ specified for drinking and food preparation. So now every food wholesale and retail outlet in fluoridated areas of the UK and Ireland, from the corner chip-shop to the largest brewery, from the small high-street bakery to the largest supermarket retailers – all will now have to either cease production or install an alternative water supply.


Implications for international trade in food products

But the ruling also has an equally profound implication for export trade in processed foods and drinks. The Court stated that even if a functional food product (or a food containing it) is legally marketed as a food in one member state, it cannot be exported to any other member state unless it has a medicinal licence. So any company making a consumable product using fluoridated water in its preparation or as an ingredient cannot now export that product to any other state in the EC, even if their product is permitted in their home state.

The economic implications are enormous. Not only does the ruling ban the use of fluoridated water for all retail catering and wholesale food processing in the UK and Ireland, it also prohibits such trade from these states to other member states of the EC. But it goes much further than even this, because if British and Irish processed foods from fluoridated areas cannot be exported to the EC, this prohibition must also apply to the importing of such products into EC member states from any other country that practices water fluoridation. The decision effectively bans all processed food products from countries such as the USA, Australia and New Zealand, unless they can be positively proven to have been prepared using only water that was not fluoridated.

What does this mean for water undertakers who fluoridate their product?

Before British water undertakers allow Strategic Health Authorities to order them to start fluoridating their water they need to be fully aware of the implications to them and their shareholders should they agree to do so. Not only are medical damages compensation claims likely to be far higher, with charges of negligently supplying an unlawful product forming the basis of class actions, food processers who lose their markets will certainly hold their water undertaker accountable in law for their losses. This ruling means that Courts in other member states of the EC must support demands from competing food processors that an embargo be placed on British and Irish products unless they can be proven to have been manufactured using only non-fluoridated water.

I have previously warned that this illegal product substitution cannot be permitted to continue, and that members of the public are entirely entitled to demand to be supplied with water that complies with, and is regulated under, the drinking water quality standards that are enforceable under both EC and UK (and Irish) law. Since the ruling must be enforced in all EC member states, water companies will now have to come off the fence and accept that fluoridated water is not an acceptable alternative drinking water.

The only way out – repeal all fluoridation laws and ban the product.

This decision completely supports the challenge that I have issued repeatedly to the UK Regulator, the MHRA – identify the case law that justifies your perverse claim that this product is not a medicine. Ironically, it was the MHRA itself that finally gave the game away, in a formal response to another Regulator, the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA). In what I can only assume was a deliberate attempt to mislead the ASA, the MHRA actually cited this case in support of its continued perverse refusal to implement the medicines legislation that it is obliged to enforce!

The beginning of the end – fluoridation must now be banned, worldwide.

This ECJ ruling effectively puts the final nail in the coffin of water fluoridation, not only within the EC but worldwide. It establishes a very substantial but entirely justified obstacle to trade in food products that are prepared without proper regard to the protection of the public that is enshrined in law. The ruling must be recognised and enforced not only in every memebr state, but also in any external state that wishes to trade with the EC in processed foods. So just what can be done to resolve the present unacceptable situation?

One solution would be to grant a medicinal licence to fluoridated water. But the Court ruled that any evaluation of a functional drink may only be done under the rigorous procedures required to scrutinise any pharmaceutical product. In the present state of scientific concern over the evidence of its lack of efficacy and safety it is impossible to imagine that such a licence could ever be granted. If it were, it would immediately result in a world-wide denunciation from the scientific community that is fully aware of the improper commercial influence that is at the heart of the international promotion of fluoridated products.

The only acceptable response is to call a halt to this controversial practice now. The experience of the past half century has shown that it is completely unjustified – indeed, it is responsible for what may reasonably be described as a pandemic of avoidable chronic fluoride poisoning. In ruling that this type of product must be regulated under medicinal law, the Court has taken the final step towards bringing this disreputable practice to a long-delayed end. Let us hope that national Governments all over the world will heed this decision – the economic consequences will be dire for those who continue to attempt to continue this discredited and illegal practice.

[psy0ps]

Why else do you think that the American people arent rioting in the street over this 24 trillion dollar robbery ? We all know the side effect of fluoride is passiveness... We have been chemically attacked to stay passive and then you have the TV hypnotizing everyone telling them what to think. I find it interesting how its not only the water now that you find fluoride in. It is actually in a lot of various foods as well.

[JTCoyoté]

Why else do you think that the American people arent rioting in the street over this 24 trillion dollar robbery ? We all know the side effect of fluoride is passiveness... We have been chemically attacked to stay passive and then you have the TV hypnotizing everyone telling them what to think. I find it interesting how its not only the water now that you find fluoride in. It is actually in a lot of various foods as well.

This is a two-edged sword... if the people were rioting in the streets, that would be all that would be necessary for the Globies to implement their martial law... Remember, in the 21st century, especially here in America... rioting in the streets is done by e-mailing, faxing, and telephoning our congressional representatives, and others at the local, state, and federal level in mass... with info bombs!

It is time that our elected officials, and their handlers, hear from US loudly at all governmental levels... This slow poisoning of the population is chemically weakening, altering, and destroying the robust diversity of our human genetic base... Sodium Fluoride is also used to make the paper from which coffee filters and tea bags are made to make it more hygroscopic. The paper is soaked in a hydrophilic fluoride solution, (polyvinylidene fluoride) at a ratio of between .05% and 2.0%... so when you make a pot of coffee, you are unwittingly self administering this fluoride at a rate of up to 500 times greater than the allowable limit in the water... This is eugenics!  This is the slow and painful extermination of what the elite see as the "fellaheen masses", the useless eaters.

If these elitist, retrograde Darwinian, bastards think that we the people want only their genes to represent us as human beings into the future and not our own as well, we who have built all of this... well, these social-planning, eugenicist, sons-of-bitches have another think coming!

hydrophilic fluoride coffee filters

JTCoyoté

"...the State of Colorado hereby claims sovereignty, under the 10th
Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, over all powers
not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by
the United States Constitution." ~From HJR-94-1035, The First
10th Amendment State Sovereignty Resolution, 1994

[JTCoyoté]

You know there's something in your water when you get in the shower and it smells like a swimming pool.

Lizzie,

A chemical that makes your shower smell like a swimming pool is chlorine... it is probably the easiest to remove from the water, because it is so unstable in water... it out gases quickly, hence the smell, releasing the chlorine as gas to the open-air in about 24 hours at normal chlorination levels for a public water supply.

The fluoride, sodium fluorosilicate/sodium hexafluoride... is a lot harder to get rid of since fluoride is extremely hygroscopic, it is attracted to water like iron filings are attracted to a magnet. Once it is attached, the only thing that will truly remove the fluoride, is if the water is heated to the point of evaporation as steam or water vapor, the fluoride remains as a residue, as a whitish deposit on the container the water was in...

The thing about the stuff that is being put in the water is, that it also contains trace amounts of heavy metals such as lead, arsenic, cadmium, and others... these too are removed when the water is boiled or distilled.

It comes to my attention from a friend, that wells in rural areas which are abandoned or out of the way, or used specifically for livestock purposes and the like, are being salted with this industrial waste... the idea is to dispose of it, one, and two, because it will be coming up in water elsewhere as it filters its way through the underground streams and aquifers, it will give the illusion that it is a natural background fluoride...

This is untrue, sodium fluoride has a signature, in nature it is extremely rare because of the processes required to produce it... Background naturally occurring fluorates, and fluorites usually occur in no more than a concentration of 4 ppm, this compound will manifest as calcium fluorite or calcium fluorophosphate... a completely different animal than the industrially produced sodium fluorosilicate/sodium hexafluoride...

So anyone who is concerned about their water in rural areas, should draw a sample into a clean glass jar, and take it to an independent water analysis laboratory... this can get pricey, but it's well worth the cost. Have them test specifically for the industrial fluorides I've mentioned here, and the naturally occurring calcium fluorite/calcium fluorophosphate... and be sure to ask them to search for any other industrial signatures in your water.

JTCoyoté

"The price of liberty is, always has been, and always
will be blood: The person who is not willing to die for
his liberty has already lost it to the first scoundrel
who is willing to risk dying to violate that person's
liberty!  Are you free?"
~Andrew Ford

[Cryptvill]

I'm sorry, I have to ask the newb question, Is Zephryhills water bottles contaminated? Should I stop drinking them?

[psy0ps]

I'm sorry, I have to ask the newb question, Is Zephryhills water bottles contaminated? Should I stop drinking them?

Crypt if you go to http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26948.0 there is a very long list of bottled waters and their levels of fluoridation.
Here is the one you were asking about:
451.   Zephyrhills   0.2 mg/l

[Cryptvill]

really appreciate the link much respect

[Mr Grinch]

Hydrophilic Fluoride at .05% to 2.0% to increase "wettability" of tea bags and coffee filters...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Q0o&q=hydrophilic+fluoride+impregnated+%22coffee+filters%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Click around and have a fun read...

--Oldyoti

"The government turns every contingency
into an excuse for enhancing power in itself."
~John Adams

JT.. You ruined my morning coffee since I read this the day you posted it, but this topic is so important its good to see back in the front page of GD.

Im experimenting with cheesecloth now.

I am thinking about scoring a water distiller soon, they are  +/- 100$ for a countertop model and are effective. (Im getting sick of paying for water and carting it.)

[JTCoyoté]

JT.. You ruined my morning coffee since I read this the day you posted it, but this topic is so important its good to see back in the front page of GD.

Im experimenting with cheesecloth now.

I am thinking about scoring a water distiller soon, they are  +/- 100$ for a countertop model and are effective. (Im getting sick of paying for water and carting it.)

Yeah... I know what you mean, I felt the same way when I decided to research filtration systems and the use of fluoride as a wetting agent. What I did was, I ordered up a Swiss gold permanent coffee filter. They are amazing little guys made of gold plated titanium, in a poly propylene frame. they will allow the smaller grounds, those less than .005" to get through the mesh. Extremely fine coffee particles though... I don't even notice them... but I do notice the incredibly good taste of the coffee. I make it with "comes out of the mountain Spring water" from up the hill here, and some freshly ground and organically grown coffee beans... my first cup is stout it's the kick starter in the morning, then I brew it weak, one cup at a time all day... I love coffee!

The Swiss gold permanent filters cost about 30 bucks, but should last virtually forever... I have an old style cone drip coffee maker that you have to boil your water then pour it over the grounds in the cone... the permanent filter fits perfectly, and the coffee... oh my God it's good and it doesn't taste like paper... fluoridated paper! Yuk!

Here's a link... the Swiss gold is about halfway down the page... http://www.fantes.com/coffee-filters.html

JTCoyoté

"...the State of Colorado hereby claims sovereignty, under the 10th
Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, over all powers
not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by
the United States Constitution." ~From HJR-94-1035, The First
10th Amendment State Sovereignty Resolution, 1994

[Committed]

I'm looking at removing the flouride from my whole house.  What do you guys think about this system?  It's pretty reasonable and if it does what it says, I'd order it.

http://www.equinox-products.com/FluorideMaster.htm

[wiseroldowl]

I may have missed a post about the "junk disease" of Fibromyalgia, ( I put that in quotes because the longer the establishment calls it that the longer they don't have to investigate where it comes from), and Fluoride but I wish to share my story that seems to coincide, with all of this concern. Yes, it is antidotal. I have no documentation, but I think many folks my age will hear a ring of truth and do some in depth research for proof as I am trying to do now:

I was born in 1965 in the Bay Area of California. I was adopted, so for my first three months of life the STATE made sure I got whatever they wanted to put in me. My parents, both good people that believed for years that the state would never do anything to hurt us, were told I had my first set of immunizations including fluoride laced oral immunizations. When I started seeing a dentist at two, (according to my mother), I was getting oral fluoride that we swallowed twice a year until I was 15 years old. In school in California we attended "dentist days" twice a year and got fluoride laced tabs that checked to see if we were brushing correctly. Our municipal water was fluoridated and my mother loyally bought fluoride toothpaste.
When we moved to Boise, in 1977, the water was not being floruidated as far as we can tell, but all other varibles stayed the same.

I now have fibro and RA and something called Sjogrens disease. Some of my doctors call it junk science, (maybe because they know it's poisoning??) and it is all in my head and a few others say I am very ill and try to stick me on fluoride laced antibiotics and anti-depressants.
 
I encourage anyone with constant health issues to look up both the symptoms of fibro and the symptoms of flouride poisoning and read. The lists of symptoms are almost identical.

[JT Coyoté]

Wow, god how we've been conned. What about other fluorides? I see they put sodium fluorosilicate in water. But toothpastes contain things such as sodium fluoride or sodium monofluorophosphate. What are the degrees of toxicity of these various fluorine compounds?

There are several formulations of these industrial "fluoridating" compounds with different names yet all are "sodium fluoride" compounds originating as industrial toxic waste... some are refined so they're even more potent in their physiological and neurological effects. In any case, they're all poison to you and the environment which has been known for well over 100 years.

These toxins proved as costly to dispose of as the cost of the manufacturing processes that produced them. So it was stockpiled wherever a fertilizer of aluminum plant was located, irreparably poisoning the storage area spreading with the wind raking havoc for miles around. In rain soaked liquid form it would leach into the ground water spreading odorless colorless death to animals and humans who drank therefrom.

The con-job / advertising campaign to get this stuff in our water, toothpaste, and medications beginning 60 years ago, was well calculated to deceive and easily gathered well meaning minions along the way in this "beneficial cause" (sic), all for the sake of the children's teeth.  Here's how it was done. The idea that fluoride compounds were good for teeth and bones was all based on a "Bait and switch" scheme.  

In the 1930's it was discovered that trace amounts of naturally occurring calcium fluoride in ground water did in fact strengthen bones and teeth. The famous Colorado Brown Stain Studies were done during the '30s and '40s in and around the town of Colorado Springs involving local populations who were exposed to a high level of naturally occurring calcium-fluoride compounds in the ground water there.  

The key to this dental benefit was not the fluoride however, it was the organic compound's largest component... calcium.  Undaunted, the global eugenicists and their cadre of scientific minions for 2 decades focused on and sold the people on the idea that it was the fluoride that performed the miracle -- "the bait!" Then they switched out the naturally occurring, metabolism friendly, calcium fluoride, for the toxic cumulative neuro-toxin, sodium fluoride, a deadly poison.  

It has been known since the 1880's, with the advent of ammonium nitrate/phosphate fertilizer and aluminum manufacturing, that the waste products from each, depending upon the overall composition of the phosphorus or bauxite ore used within the various manufacturing processes, produced a waste product which in some cases could even be a radio-active cocktail of toxins. Whether the end waste product was sodium fluorosilicate, sodium hexa-fluoride, mono-fluoro-phosphate, fluorosilic acid, they all contained other discarded substances including lead, cadmium, arsenic, aluminum, even trace uranium, and others... Sound good so far...?

In all of these sodium-fluoride compounds, it is well documented that when added to water or food at less than 5 parts per million, over a short period of time it creates docility in the population that ingests it -- an attitude of, "what's the urgency... I feel fine... besides, what can I do anyway, our government is good... we are safe, they'd never hurt us..." this effect was found in studies done in the Nazi camps, documents captured after WWII. Thus, it is a perfect tool for the domination of huge populations... sodium-fluoride is an ingredient in all serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, (anti-depression drugs) btw.  

If allowed to be administered at the prescribed level over a long period of time, as is done in water "fluoridation," it manifests chronic diseases, fibroses, cancers, and neurological dysfunctions most of which were unheard of before the late 1950's... it is also a factor in the skyrocketing occurrences of pediatric cancer, virtually non existent before 1960.

If the dosage is increased, or continues to accumulate in the body over a few decades, premature mental and physical degeneration and death are assured. If administered in water at daily levels approaching 50 parts per million it will cause unexplained convulsive death within months in most people. This is the eugenicists dream, mass illness and death by merely a twist of a knob at the water plant.

It has never been conclusively proved that sodium fluoride compounds added to the water or food provides any benefit to teeth and bones ... It has been shown however, that as dosages rise to around five parts from million, it causes migraines, the appearance of fluorosis in many people, as well as IQ reduction, particularly in children over time.

JTCoyoté

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method
of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship
without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration
camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties
taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be
distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or
brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems
to be the final revolution."~Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group,
California Medical School lecture, 1961 Audio Transcript  

[Jason109A6]

Has anybody else noticed pets will not drink tap water when it rains and will go outside to drink puddled rain water?