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Offline Al Bundy

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #80 on: November 27, 2015, 09:17:37 AM »

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #81 on: November 27, 2015, 09:24:18 AM »
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/

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Rogue State Turkey

by Stephen Lendman


Turkey’s aggression against Russia complicit with Washington remains foremost on my mind - two rogue states posing major threats to world peace. Their actions speak for themselves.

Ergodan would never attack Russia on his own. Washington likely planned and orchestrated what happened. He was the triggerman, a fascist dictator destabilizing the region along with destroying fundamental freedoms at home. More on his homeland repression below.

Most important is his alliance with US-dominated NATO - a rogue killing machine threatening world peace, waging one war after another, raging in multiple theaters, notably in Iraq and Syria.

Southeastern Turkey borders the Syrian Republic, Iraq and Iran. Erdogan wants part of northern Syria incorporated into Turkey - a hoped for land grab on the pretext of establishing a safe zone for nonexistent “moderate” rebels.

Thousands of heavily armed Turkish troops are massed on Syria’s border. Invasion may follow if Washington OKs it after Erdogan replaced Chief of General Staff General Necdet Ozel with regime-supporting General Hulusi Akar.


Downing Russia’s aircraft ups the stakes for greater war, ruining chances for diplomatic conflict resolution - Washington’s plan all along, Erdogan going along for his own self-interest, a rogue leader running Turkey despotically.


After Turkey downed Russia’s aircraft, Vladimir Putin blasted Erdogan, calling him an “accomplice of terrorists,” adding:

“IS has big money, hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, from selling oil. In addition they are protected by the military of an entire nation.”

“One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly. Why they kill people in such atrocious ways. Why they commit terrorist acts across the world…”


Turkey supplied and may continue supplying ISIS with toxic sarin gas to commit terrorist attacks, falsely blamed on Assad - including the notorious August 2013 Ghouta incident, killing and injuring hundreds of Syrian civilians in the Damascus suburb.

Evidence shows ISIS and other takfiri terrorists in Syria used chemical weapons numerous times before. US, Turkish and Saudi Arabian dirty hands were involved - Assad set up to be a fall guy irresponsibility.

No proof of Syrian involvement in chemical weapons use exists since Obama’s war began in March 2011. While ongoing, Assad destroyed his entire chemical weapons stockpile, working cooperatively with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons - certified by OPCW. Phony claims about him retaining supplies persist.


Sarin gas enters Syria through Turkey. Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said a former senior US intelligence official with current reliable contacts told him “Turkish government (elements) believed they could get Assad’s ’n-ts in a vice by dabbling with a sarin attack inside Syria…forcing Obama to make good on his red line threat.”

Erdogan is a megalomaniacal threat to global peace and stability, especially after recklessly downing Russia’s aircraft - an act of aggressive war by any standard, Washington’s dirty hands orchestrating things covertly behind the scenes.

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #82 on: November 27, 2015, 09:28:44 AM »
http://www.globalresearch.ca/eu-politicians-blast-turkeys-links-to-isis-call-erdogans-policies-dangerous/5491834

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Illegal Oil Trade with Terrorists. EU Politicians Blast Turkey’s Links to ISIS. Erdogan’s Policies Are Insanely Dangerous

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #83 on: November 27, 2015, 10:01:14 AM »

Turkey is trigger-happy, anxious to hurt Russia... because
Turkey is definitely on the ISIS/Crazy muslim side in
this struggle. I wonder if NATO would actually back
TURKEY in a shooting war w/RUSSIA ... or if they would
kick them out of NATO, the best course. I believe we will
face similar situations with other muslim countries
as this war unfolds.

Turkey must be removed from
NATO: US Army general

Thu Nov 26, 2015   7:21PM

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... described Turkey as an internal threat to NATO,
who, “... will only cooperate when they have to and they
will get as much out of NATO as they can.”



Turkey’s downing of a Russian warplane over Syria has proven
that the country is a liability to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
(NATO) and must be “ousted” from the Western military alliance,
says a retired US Army General.


The shooting down of a Russian aircraft near the Syrian border was in line with Ankara’s struggle to establish itself as a “dominant” power, retired US Army Major General Paul Vallely said Thursday.

Vallely said Turkey must be removed from NATO because it poses a “big and important issue” in many ways for other members.

“I think NATO, if they have any resolve, they would oust Turkey out of NATO because they are not cooperating against ISIL, they are not cooperating at all with some of the forces inside of Syria, and they want to see [Syrian President Bashar] Assad removed or replaced by another government,” the retired General told Russia's RT.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/26/439304/Russia-NATO-Turkey-Su24-Paul-Vallely
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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #84 on: November 27, 2015, 05:16:57 PM »
Holly's  quote.“I think NATO, if they have any resolve, they would oust Turkey out of NATO because they are not cooperating against ISIL, they are not cooperating at all with some of the forces inside of Syria, and they want to see [Syrian President Bashar] Assad removed or replaced by another government,” the retired General told Russia's RT.
  The general is retired therfor he can speak his mind. The brass knows if they speak out, they're out.
  The ADM (elites), its our way or the highway.

Generals Opposing Iraq War Break with Military Tradition ...
www.commondreams.org/.../generals-opposing-iraq... - The retired generals beseeched old friends in powerful positions to use .... quite surprised to see so many speaking out against the Iraq war.

Retired generals and admirals urge Congress to reject Iran ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../retired-generals... -  2015 - The letter by 195 former top military officers follows one last week that supported ... U.S. military operations against Islamist extremist organizations as a ... opposed to the agreement, so the Obama administration is focusing on ...

PS: Russia took out 472 terrorist locals in 48 hours ,,&   oil facility's. 

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #85 on: November 27, 2015, 07:45:43 PM »
"
... The friend of our enemy is our friend

NATO is harbouring the Islamic State
Why France’s brave new war on ISIS is a sick joke,
and an insult to the victims of the Paris attacks

By Nafeez Ahmed

EXCERPTS:

“We stand alongside Turkey in its efforts in protecting its national security and fighting against terrorism. France and Turkey are on the same side within the framework of the international coalition against the terrorist group ISIS.”
Statement by French Foreign Ministry, July 2015[/b]

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By now, this implies that Turkey has facilitated over $1 billion
worth of black market ISIS oil sales to date.


There is no “self-sustaining economy” for ISIS, contrary to the fantasies of the Washington Post and Financial Times in their recent faux investigations, according to Martin Chulov of the Guardian:

“… tankers carrying crude drawn from makeshift refineries still make it to the [Turkey-Syria] border. One Isis member says the organisation remains a long way from establishing a self-sustaining economy across the area of Syria and Iraq it controls. ‘They need the Turks. I know of a lot of cooperation and it scares me,’ he said. ‘I don’t see how Turkey can attack the organisation too hard. There are shared interests.’”


The Turkish double-game was confirmed by
multiple rebel sources to McClatchy, but
denied by a Pentagon spokesman who
said, reassuringly:


“Turkey is a NATO ally, close
friend of the United States and an important
partner in the international coalition.”


√  MUST READ: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/europe-is-harbouring-the-islamic-state-s-backers-d24db3a24a40#.q8owv4575
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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #86 on: November 27, 2015, 08:40:43 PM »
 Once Russia stepped into this Game of WAR in The Middle East---NOW the Game is underway---and it is Hard to Beat Russia---just as Hard as it is to beat The USA!

...we are NOW in World War III---just; most of the planet, is dumbfounded by the reality of this moment!~
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Common Sense ran away..."

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #87 on: November 27, 2015, 08:52:15 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/erdogan-pledges-to-start-war-over-russian-anti-aircraft-system-in-syria/

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ERDOGAN PLEDGES TO START WAR OVER RUSSIAN ANTI-AIRCRAFT SYSTEM IN SYRIA

Moscow has deployed its advanced S-400 air defense system in Syria


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told CNN International his country will consider it an act of aggression if Russia takes down a Turkish plane violating Syrian airspace.

“In this case Turkey will be forced to take measures that will certainly not be discussed. And of course it would be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it’s the natural right of the state to protect those rights. We do not want to see any escalation of the situation in the region. We do not want to become a party to that. But those who side with Syria and escalate the tension, I think, are the responsible parties to this,” Erdogan said.

On Thursday Moscow deployed its advanced S-400 air defense system in Syria. The weapon will be used to protect the Russian Hmeimim airbase in Latakia. The Russian defense ministry posted a video of the deployment on its Facebook page.


Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said his government was “sure that Russian planes destroying IS targets [were] guaranteed not to be attacked from the US-led so-called anti-IS coalition.”

The downing of a Russian SU-24 on Tuesday by NATO member Turkey changed this and “now the safety of Russian fleet’s planes… will be ensured by more secure means,” he said.

“We have pretty good connectivity with the Russians,” Lt. Gen. Charles Brown Jr. told Air Force Times on Wednesday. “With our MOU [Memorandum of Understanding], there are things that are in there that talk about … how we’re not going to show hostile acts or hostile intent from the coalition toward the Russians or from the Russians toward the coalition.”



Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday during a news conference the United States knew the flight path of the aircraft shot down by Turkey.

“The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes’ flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time,” he said.

He said Russia’s military had passed on flight details to the Americans.

Putin then indirectly accused the US of colluding with Turkey to shoot down the plane.

“Why did we pass this information to the Americans? Either they were not controlling what their allies were doing, or they are leaking this information all over the place,” he said.

“And we proceed from the position that there will be no repeat of this, otherwise we’ll have no need of cooperation with anybody, any coalition, any country.”

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #88 on: November 27, 2015, 10:44:27 PM »
Sultan Erdogan's War on...Russia
Pepe Escobar - Nov 25, 2015 - Sputnik News

Let's cut to the chase. The notion that Turkey's downing of a Russian Su-24 by a made in USA F-16 was carried out without either a green light or at least pre-arranged "support" from Washington invites suspension of disbelief.

Turkey is a mere vassal state, the eastern arm of NATO, which is the European arm of the Pentagon. The Pentagon already issued a denial — which, considering their spectacular record of strategic failures cannot be taken at face value. Plausibly, this might have been a power play by the neocon generals who run the Pentagon, allied with the neocon-infested Obama administration.

The privileged scenario though is of a vassal Turkey led by Sultan Erdogan risking a suicide mission out of its own, current, desperation.

Here's Erdogan's warped reasoning in a nutshell. The Paris tragedy was a huge setback. France started discussing close military collaboration not within NATO, but with Russia. Washington's unstated aim was always to get NATO inside Syria. By having Turkey/NATO — clumsily, inside Syrian territory — attacking Russia, and provoking a harsh Russian response, Erdogan thought he could seduce NATO into Syria, under the pretext (Article 5) of defending Turkey.

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #89 on: November 28, 2015, 08:47:59 AM »

... the course is clear as a bell if only
we had right-minded, anti-crazy muslim,
pro-Christian, anti-NWO leaders in
the District of Criminals: Throw Turkey
out of the NATO alliance immediately,
join forces with the RUSSIAN alliance
to wipe out IS once and for all ... and anyone
else that arms and fuels them ... purge our
homelands of crazy muslims and secure the borders ...
and begin the new era of EURO/ASIAN cooperation
that the entire sane world is asking and praying for!
Turkey. Saudi Arabia. Your time is up.

I believe Russia is ready to forgive us for our
stupidity and wrong-headed transgressions in
the fumbling support of CRAZY MUSLIMS if we
act now.


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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #90 on: November 28, 2015, 08:40:00 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/erdogan-pledges-to-start-war-over-russian-anti-aircraft-system-in-syria/

  from infowars.com

ERDOGAN PLEDGES TO START WAR OVER RUSSIAN ANTI-AIRCRAFT SYSTEM IN SYRIA


It's not an infowars headline, but it does not reflect what Erdogan is reported to have said in the article, but it is the narrative we see being pushed, which is quite revealing.

The quote from the Russians is also interesting:

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He said Russia’s military had passed on flight details to the Americans.

Putin then indirectly accused the US of colluding with Turkey to shoot down the plane.

“Why did we pass this information to the Americans? Either they were not controlling what their allies were doing, or they are leaking this information all over the place,” he said.

“And we proceed from the position that there will be no repeat of this, otherwise we’ll have no need of cooperation with anybody, any coalition, any country.”

The US gave the info to the Turks, who then lay in wait and shot down the plane in what Lavrov called a 'planned provocation'. One wonders what they hoped the Russians would do.

What is clear is that Putin is spoiling their plans and he needs to be stopped by any means. Both the Paris attacks and the Russian airliner attack are both means to this end since they have enabled the French, British and US to justify further airstrikes in Syria, which will be targeting Syrian oil and civil infrastructure, with the intention of turning it into a failed state. The British are having a vote in parliament next week on authorising bombing in Syria, a vote which would not have happened were in not for the Paris attacks.

The last phrase from the Russians 'no need of any coalition, any country', this means that Putin and Assad will probably declare a no fly zone for any aircraft from any country not authorised by the Syrian government, within range of the S400s in Latakia. And they will be within their legal rights to do so.

From here there is a realistic path to a wider and much more serious conflagration, where the no fly zone is violated, and Russia shoots down some aircraft, then the logical move from NATO is to push the Turkish armour over the border into Syria, possibly met with the threat of tactical nukes from Russia.

All the above is pretty obvious stuff, so if Turkey or anyone else attempts to shoot down another plane, the above chain of events is what they want.

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #91 on: November 28, 2015, 09:43:58 PM »


... I am embarrassed and sorry to say, the US
govt and it's allies can NOT be trusted ... Putin
should watch his back, but hopefully continue
to work with the sensible resistance/adversarial
powers in NATO, and bring them to their senses.
US/EU is stuck in a rut, stubbornly playing out
the totally failed NWO playbook ... I gotta believe
it is being driven by the muslim leanings of Obama.
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« Reply #92 on: November 29, 2015, 02:10:42 PM »
I believe the following is the goal of Russia (taken from the book: Daniel and Revelation by Uriah Smith, published in 1897)

Russia wants to take over the whole nation of Turkey. They want to drive her out completely and take over that region! There are many reasons, but the biggest two are that they want access to the Mediterranean Sea for military purposes. They also believe as most nations did in history that when they can conquer Turkey, they will have better access to European countries through Istanbul (in 1930 city name was changed from Constantinople to Istanbul). All of Europe will be behind Russia when this happens. No one will come to the aid of Turkey.

Watch what happens in the future--when Turkey is no longer a nation, she will flee and try to set up her kingdom in Jerusalem. Soon after, perhaps within hours, probation will close for this world. Most of you won't believe this but when you see this happen, you may remember what was said here.
 
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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #93 on: November 29, 2015, 02:43:15 PM »


I believe all the countries' borders should be left as is ...
with the possible exception of a Kurdish state, perhaps part
Turkey/part Syria ... but I am NO EXPERT on the Kurds'
needs. I believe there should be a guarded, orderly exodus
of all Christians from muslim-held territory ... if they wish
to leave and be resettled eventually in Xian countries. Once
the IS crazies are sent to allah, I believe the new EU/ASIAN
alliance should stop all imports of oil (and other resources)
from muslim countries ... they will last two weeks without
the constant flow of our blood-money-for-oil. muslims in the
West will, by this time, be up-in-arms and will have to be dealt
with, hopefully another ordered exodus for most, to the muslim
country of their choosing.

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2015, 03:45:07 PM »

... I am embarrassed and sorry to say, the US
govt and it's allies can NOT be trusted ... Putin
should watch his back, but hopefully continue
to work with the sensible resistance/adversarial
powers in NATO, and bring them to their senses.
US/EU is stuck in a rut, stubbornly playing out
the totally failed NWO playbook ... I gotta believe
it is being driven by the muslim leanings of Obama
.

hahaha, that is seriously delusional

Don't tell me..Bush 1&2, Clinton (both) are Muslims too, right? It was probably Muslims who killed JFK too..

Thanks for the laugh

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I believe all the countries' borders should be left as is ...
with the possible exception of a Kurdish state, perhaps part
Turkey/part Syria ... but I am NO EXPERT on the Kurds'
needs. I believe there should be a guarded, orderly exodus
of all Christians from muslim-held territory ... if they wish
to leave and be resettled eventually in Xian countries. Once
the IS crazies are sent to allah, I believe the new EU/ASIAN
alliance should stop all imports of oil (and other resources)
from muslim countries ... they will last two weeks without
the constant flow of our blood-money-for-oil. muslims in the
West will, by this time, be up-in-arms and will have to be dealt
with, hopefully another ordered exodus for most, to the muslim
country of their choosing.

Jackson Holly's World Fix.   ;D

haha you're on a roll! Was this a bad head day?

I guess we should all be grateful that this is not JacksonHollyland..

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2015, 07:27:06 PM »
  Who do ya trust? 
  The people were convinced Bin L and his crew pulled of 911, the Invasion of Afghanistan began..Rather than get the facts or at least question most folks bobbed their heads, wiggled the flag and went along. ( My opinion had they wanted Bib L he would have been waked out post haste). But the plan was not one nation nor just Binny, it was multiple. Bottom line, the citizens were hysterical, FEAR is CONTROL..
 All of you folks know the invasion of Iraq was a set up, the terror factor initiated-WMD's kept the masses in fear, despite the fact no WMD's existed the GP didn't raise hell. The casualty's were ignored, our troops nor the innocents slaughtered.
 I won't continue a rant all you guys know this, what hasn't been mentioned & may not be of relevance is this entire territory was once the Ottoman Empire till about the 1920's.
 I only mention this for one reason, Empires are destined to fall..As so will this NWO, the price paid will be in blood of the innocents and allways has been. History is  repeated, the same record over and over, the shadow powers and their minions of sucklings are well versed in regards to mankinds history and human nature, they have been at this game for millenniums.
 Peace on earth, goodwill to men, the true power detests this phrase and most certainly consider the people morons incapeable of perceiving their game plan.
 On subject, Russia was backed into a corner as was France, can we speculate as to the insiders knowledge of these attacks, you bet we can.
 
 
 

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #96 on: January 05, 2016, 08:34:09 PM »
"Sputnik": New Serbian ambassador in Saudi Arabia mufti Jusufspahić Jr. thinks that Turkey did not decide alone to shot Russian airplane.
"Turkey is a NATO member. I do not know where the orders are coming. Things are logical, things will change when anyone on either side of the first think about God"
   
http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/9/Politika/2163631/Jusufspahi%C4%87%3A+Turska+nije+sama+odlu%C4%8Dila+da+obori+ruski+avion.htmlhttp://

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2016, 09:18:19 AM »
funny thing that uk support turkey ;)

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2016, 12:11:57 PM »
 Did they off the pilot yet......deep six the guy or just shred the info.

 They know, and so does Putin.
 

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #99 on: June 27, 2016, 01:36:21 PM »
Holy crap this is bad.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/turkey-shoots-down-russian-warplane-near-border-syria-n468671

ISTANBUL — Turkish fighter jets shot down a Russian warplane near the Syrian border after it violated Turkish airspace on Tuesday, officials said.

The Russian jet was warned 10 times in five minutes before being shot down, according to the Turkish air force.

Syrian fighters on the ground and Turkish sources told NBC News that the Russian jet's pilots ejected and landed in an area north of Latakia, Syria, that is controlled by rebels fighting to topple President Bashar Assad. Russia has an air base in Latakia which is used to launch bombing raids targeting Assad's foes — including ISIS.





 
 Image: A Sukhoi Su-24 fighter jet

A file photo of a Su-24 fighter jet taking off from the Hmeymim air base near Latakia, Syria. Russia's Defence Ministry / Reuters

Footage from Turkish Haberturk TV showed a warplane going down in flames in a woodland area with a long plume of smoke trailing behind it.

Citing the Kremlin's Defense Ministry, Russian state-run RIA Novosti news agency also reported that a Su-24 had been downed in Turkey near the border with Syria, but said it had been shot down by ground fire. The plane was flying above Syrian territory and not Turkey, according to that report.

The head of the Turkish military briefed President Tayyip Erdogan on the incident, while Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu ordered consultations with NATO, the United Nations and related countries, Reuters reported citing their respective offices.

Russia's Defense Ministry was not immediately available for comment.





According to Russia's Defense Ministry, there are 69 warplanes based in Latakia. Russian planes have run thousands of bombing raids in Syria since Sept. 30 when the Kremlin announced it would start targeting ISIS.

However, U.S. officials say many of the strikes appear to be hitting areas where ISIS doesn't have a presence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his air force to step-up bombings after a passenger plane crashed in Egypt's Sinai on Oct. 31, killing all 224 on board. On Thursday, ISIS claimed it brought down the Metrojet plane with an improvised bomb.

My name is Recep T. Erdogan.
I was the president of a democratic secular Republic of Turkey.
I ordered to change the democratic constitution to become president and Sultan.
I ordered the shooting down a Russian fighter jet in Syria that was bombed Islamists. The killing of a Russian pilot was not provoked by President Putin to retaliate in kind and start a WW3  (Turkey is a NATO member).
However, Putin struck Turkey on the "wallet". That's hurt.
So I thought today to apologize to the family of murdered pilot and Putin and then it will again be as it was before.

Will Putin "buy" my "apology"?

http://aa.com.tr/en/todays-headlines/erdogan-letter-to-putin-calls-for-friendly-ties/598598http://

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #100 on: July 02, 2016, 01:26:34 AM »
south stream now may have a chance...

turkey has always been a golem as well as ussr/post-soviet russia.
 
one side desided that it would be a good idea to fight some pro-turkish terrorists
other side desided that it would be a good idea  shooting down a plane 
lose-lose.

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« Reply #101 on: July 02, 2016, 06:39:19 AM »
south stream now may have a chance...

turkey has always been a golem as well as ussr/post-soviet russia.
 
one side desided that it would be a good idea to fight some pro-turkish terrorists
other side desided that it would be a good idea  shooting down a plane 
lose-lose.

You mean "Turkish stream" ?

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #102 on: July 02, 2016, 08:27:40 AM »
should be 'south'. pipeline through black sea.

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #103 on: July 02, 2016, 09:32:20 AM »
should be 'south'. pipeline through black sea.

Both.
Turkish stream: pipeline to Turkey and further via Greece to Italy...
South stream: pipeline to Bulgaria and further via Serbia and Hungary to Austria...

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2016, 05:11:15 AM »
i thought that what was presented as turkish is south stream which changed its earlier planned direction but not name


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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2016, 06:06:43 AM »
i thought that what was presented as turkish is south stream which changed its earlier planned direction but not name



Yes, yes. I already open topic about that possible pipeline: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=268367.0

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #106 on: July 21, 2016, 09:16:33 PM »
Turkish pilot who shot down Russian warplane will become "scapegoat" in purpose to Erdogan`s try to reconcile with Russia ?  :o

http://sputniknews.com/world/20160721/1043417798/turkey-russia-su-24-downing.htmlhttp://

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2016, 11:25:04 AM »

My name is Ahmed Davutoglu. I was Turkish PM. I ordered to shoot Russian jet. I am killer. I was bring mankind to edge of WW3.
Will someone do something against me?




http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/i-ordered-military-to-down-any-jet-coming-from-syria-former-pm-davutoglu.aspx?PageID=238&NID=102153&NewsCatID=338http://

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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2016, 05:05:18 PM »
Yesterday in Belgrade, Serbian retired Army Lt. Col. Butolen handed Russian FM Lavrov, Serbian sword with gold intended for the family of murdered Russian pilot Oleg Peskov.


At sword writes: "fidelity to the homeland, brother, thank you for sacrificing yourself to light our roads"