Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum

[Dig]

Population should be governed to some degree , my best suggestion is that we take away the financial incentive for those on welfare to have more children. Instead of giving them for foodsatmps and welfare when they have an extra child , foodstamps and welfare should be cut for each new child. This would greatly reduce the growth we see.

Well since the welfare and food stamps only buys like 10% purchasing power of what it did decades ago, this has already been tried due to the inflationary tax. And since they are about to send everybody on "The Road" this argument is borderline absurd. The 1960's and 1970's psyops about welfare and food stamps to control the poor populations in America still have remnants on the general psyche given your post. Additionally, the abuse of these programs are seen by the program legislatures who actually have been diverting billions to offshore banks and globalist corporations to "manage these programs". If they would ween people off of these programs as Ron Paul has talked about while eliminating unconstitutional taxes, you would see the American people do as they always have done...care for their communities without risk of being targeted by the elites who want us all to be slaves.

I am for environmental conscience. if not what does that make you , irresponsible IMO , with resources and pollution. Would you take three extra families into your house? would  leave a car running in your living room?  , no these things are dangerous. If you answered no to those questions ...you might be the opposite of a wasteful redneck..

the most environmentally conscience thing anyone can do is expose the elites who are hell bent on destroying the environment and humanity itself.

as far as three extra families in your house, well the elites would rather you took 10 to 20 extra families because they have plans for all the land they are steeling and it does not include you or me.

as far as leaving a car running in your living room, that does seem irresponsible...i agree 100%

[Kilgore Trout]

Well since the welfare and food stamps only buys like 10% purchasing power of what it did decades ago, this has already been tried due to the inflationary tax. And since they are about to send everybody on "The Road" this argument is borderline absurd. The 1960's and 1970's psyops about welfare and food stamps to control the poor populations in America still have remnants on the general psyche given your post. Additionally, the abuse of these programs are seen by the program legislatures who actually have been diverting billions to offshore banks and globalist corporations to "manage these programs". If they would ween people off of these programs as Ron Paul has talked about while eliminating unconstitutional taxes, you would see the American people do as they always have done...care for their communities without risk of being targeted by the elites who want us all to be slaves.

the most environmentally conscience thing anyone can do is expose the elites who are hell bent on destroying the environment and humanity itself.

as far as three extra families in your house, well the elites would rather you took 10 to 20 extra families because they have plans for all the land they are steeling and it does not include you or me.

as far as leaving a car running in your living room, that does seem irresponsible...i agree 100%

Here's my problem man I make 21 dollars too much for any kind of assistance yet I am struggling to feed my family , I pawn my shit title out my car , scramble , hustle , sell plasma etc , when I go to the grocery store , there are welfare broomayers there nice clothes two hug carts full of gMO garbage and snack cakes and steaks and no vegetables etc , they load this free living into a big SUV and drive it back to subsidized housing. I drive a 94 mustang , small as hell for 4 people with the top part of the cart full (kiddie seat) , I know I'm a "loser" in this case , but I work harder than these people do.....f**k the NWO I just wanna eat!! end rant/

[citizenx]

Kilgore,

The need for further welfare reform at least, or the elimination of it as we know it altogether, is very real.  I'm with you all the way on that.

BTW, keep up the good fight.  Many of us around here are working stiffs,

On the other hand, it is a totally separate issue from "overpopulation" IMO, which is unfounded science being pushed as propaganda.

Again, even the UN's numbers show global fertility rates levelling off at or below 2.0 by mid-century.

This is all B.S.

[Kilika]

Here's my problem man I make 21 dollars too much for any kind of assistance yet I am struggling to feed my family , I pawn my shit title out my car , scramble , hustle , sell plasma etc , when I go to the grocery store , there are welfare broomayers there nice clothes two hug carts full of gMO garbage and snack cakes and steaks and no vegetables etc , they load this free living into a big SUV and drive it back to subsidized housing. I drive a 94 mustang , small as hell for 4 people with the top part of the cart full (kiddie seat) , I know I'm a "loser" in this case , but I work harder than these people do.....f**k the NWO I just wanna eat!! end rant/

Hey, we may have our differences, but I'd give you a big hug because I know exactly what your saying. As they say, "your preachin' to the choir"! I don't dount your going about life in this old world as best you can. The frustration of knowing we are trying, and all the while the NWO establishement is fighting us the whole way, throwing up roadblock after roadblock. Yeah, I know the frustration and anger.

They have their riches in this world now, but they will pay according their works later! "Blessed be ye poor"

[Kilgore Trout]

Lefty , I'm glad you know what I'm talking about , well not glad cuz it sucks but relieved that others understand. I almost think the plan is this: make me struggle into insanity , or crime , institutionalize me , then put my family on the government welfare , my kids will grow up without a father , then my son might also end up in prison ...and the cycle continues , my daughter ends up on welfare and on and on.



@citizenx , I agree it's probably not so much about population control , but it seems the incentive would be less and perhaps the growth might wane if the system were to reward hard work and responsability rather than laziness and dependency , and thanks for the encouragement.

[Dig]

Here's my problem man I make 21 dollars too much for any kind of assistance yet I am struggling to feed my family , I pawn my shit title out my car , scramble , hustle , sell plasma etc , when I go to the grocery store , there are welfare broomayers there nice clothes two hug carts full of gMO garbage and snack cakes and steaks and no vegetables etc , they load this free living into a big SUV and drive it back to subsidized housing. I drive a 94 mustang , small as hell for 4 people with the top part of the cart full (kiddie seat) , I know I'm a "loser" in this case , but I work harder than these people do.....f**k the NWO I just wanna eat!! end rant/

absolutely, the welfare "boomers" insanity is part of the batshit crazy implementation of these socialized forms of community outreach which should have absolutely nothing to do with the federal government and if the entire $2 Trillion a year we paid on psyops was spent on educating our citizens on the constitution and freedom...we would not need one tenth of the current social programs! And then after the Rockefeller Foundation mind control is eliminated, the psyops budget can also go to zero.

[Kilgore Trout]

Agreed , stupid and lazy are cottage industry for the elite.

[charrington]

This is of course your continued lack of logic throughout this thread. It is exactly the same thing. This is exactly what everyone has been discussing.   Perhaps this is where your confusion lies, you are discussing population issues even though you think that you are not discussing population issues. I hope that clears it up for you.

No that's your agenda to change things to fit your beliefs and keep the forum in check. The only thing missing digler is your inability to admit you don't understand the difference between the two. But maybe if you keep using NWO tactics and keep repeating things over and over .. people will believe it.

Both ABS and Myself are talking in a different language I guess.

[Dig]

No that's your agenda to change things to fit your beliefs and keep the forum in check. The only thing missing digler is your inability to admit you don't understand the difference between the two. But maybe if you keep using NWO tactics and keep repeating things over and over .. people will believe it.

Both ABS and Myself are talking in a different language I guess.

my agenda is the mission of the forum.

my agenda is exposing the elites that have poisoned land, air, and sea and are hell bound on destroying humanity itself.

so when i see narratives that fit into the elites' plans as if they wrote them, i will request that people take another look at what the heck is going on.

[phosphene]

Why, oh why, can you not seem to understand simple arithmetic?

you keep saying that. yet you still have not given us your opinion on the maximum number of people this planet can sustain. It's just one number. Can you write it down in this thread for us? How many people can this planet sustain?...give or take 100 million.

[charrington]

Population reduction rhetoric is 100% bullshit, it is a lie, it is a trap, it is false on its face. For over 50 years board games, video games, movies, rockefeller foundation approved education, television all pushed this 100% false dialectic. It is a lie. For over 2,000 years it has been a lie and it will be a lie in another 2,000 years.

2000 years ago it was never a problem. Step away from all this Malthusian rhetoric and look into Optimum theory because it's optimistic and doesn't see population growth as a bad thing. Malthus established are ratio between population and food supply. The ratio ought to have been held between population and total wealth.

Other than each accusation being 100% bullshit, you present some compelling rhetoric that could be set to monotone music for elevator trips. Unfortunately each supposed argument you have made either falls under the category of a character in "The Bald Soprano" or something that might be deduced by removing most of the cerebral cortex.

That it? great argument. 250 billion sperm and this is the best your parents could do? You always fall back to insults - Does it take that much from you to have a conversation without being trite?

I mean it is truly incredible that you are saying your argument which is the New World Order's argument should be given more time and energy than the over 100 million elite funded, controlled, and spun websites, MSM, and other anti-free speech access it currently has. You are saying that the New World Order's agenda does not have sufficient exposure and needs to compromise the integrity of this forum by spewing its absolute nonsense here. Then you obnoxiously and absurdly attempt an analogy so far fetched, you could cross 10 galaxies before you ever reach it.

I think whats truly incredible here is you do nothing to refute anything but chant denials and insults. There's nothing NWO about it.

No talk of Technological optimism, Sustainability, etc? By the way you'd like this book and it might help you to understand what we are really talking about.

"Five Short Blasts" A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.”

Why are you complicating things, the elite control the resources. They sabatoge them, they artificially make them scarce, they pollute, poison, and literally kill them. Until this is understood we are just dogs chasing our own tails.

EXACTLY SO STOP PRAYING TO THE AL GORE CULT ALREADY!

PRECISELY WHY ALL OF THE GLOBAL WARMING/OVERPOPULATION CULTIST INSANE DIALECTIC OF INSANITY IS EXPOSED ON THIS FORUM.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHY PROMOTING THE TED TURNER IDEA THAT 6 BILLION PEOPLE NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED MUST BE REJECTED. PREACHING CULTIST POPULATION REDUCTION THEORY IS THE ULTIMATE "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US".

This has nothing to do with al gore, ted turner or Darth Vader save in your mind.
This is more along the lines of what we were really talking about:
http://discovermagazine.com/1992/nov/howmanypeoplecan152

[Dig]

2000 years ago it was never a problem. Step away from all this Malthusian rhetoric and look into Optimum theory because it's optimistic and doesn't see population growth as a bad thing. Malthus established are ratio between population and food supply. The ratio ought to have been held between population and total wealth.

That it? great argument. 250 billion sperm and this is the best your parents could do? You always fall back to insults - Does it take that much from you to have a conversation without being trite?

That it? great argument. 250 billion sperm and this is the best your parents could do? You always fall back to insults - Does it take that much from you to have a conversation without being trite?

Hey you stole my argument!

I think whats truly incredible here is you do nothing to refute anything but chant denials and insults. There's nothing NWO about it.

Have you even read this thread?

No talk of Technological optimism, Sustainability, etc? By the way you'd like this book and it might help you to understand what we are really talking about.

"Five Short Blasts" A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.”

Rampant population growth threatens our economy and quality of life. I’m not talking about the obvious environmental and resource issues. I’m talking about the effect upon rising unemployment and poverty in America.

I am the author of a book titled “Five Short Blasts: A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.” To make a long story short, my theory is that, as population density rises beyond some optimum level, per capita consumption of products begins to decline out of the need to conserve space. People who live in crowded conditions simply don’t have enough space to use and store many products. This declining per capita consumption, in the face of rising productivity (per capita output, which always rises), inevitably yields rising unemployment and poverty.

This theory has huge implications for U.S. policy toward population management. Our policies that encourage high rates of population growth are rooted in the belief of economists that population growth is a good thing, fueling economic growth. Through most of human history, the interests of the common good and business (corporations) were both well-served by continuing population growth. For the common good, we needed more workers to man our factories, producing the goods needed for a high standard of living. This population growth translated into sales volume growth for corporations. Both were happy.

But, once an optimum population density is breached, their interests diverge. It is in the best interest of the common good to stabilize the population, avoiding an erosion of our quality of life through high unemployment and poverty. However, it is still in the interest of corporations to fuel population growth because, even though per capita consumption goes into decline, total consumption still increases. We now find ourselves in the position of having corporations and economists influencing public policy in a direction that is not in the best interest of the common good.

The U.N. ranks the U.S. with eight third world countries – India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, Ethiopia and China – as accounting for fully half of the world’s population growth by 2050.

www.bloggernews.net/115932

The entire theory is based on a principal of an arbitrary "optimum population density" number which supposedly has been "breached". Of course there is absolutely no agreed number here, yet the author uses this arbitrary threshold to propose this new economic system to replace one that has been sabatoged by the New World Order.

You really see this as the way to go here? Pick a number out of the sky, say that it has been breached. Then say because it has been breached, we must follow new economic systems rather than revert to one that we know works? How does that make any sense?

This has nothing to do with al gore, ted turner or Darth Vader save in your mind.
This is more along the lines of what we were really talking about:
http://discovermagazine.com/1992/nov/howmanypeoplecan152

You have simply replaced the Global Warming Hoax backround to push Malthusian "solutions" with the Optimization Hoax backround to push those similar "solutions" to a fake crisis.

[Novus Ordo]

you keep saying that. yet you still have not given us your opinion on the maximum number of people this planet can sustain. It's just one number. Can you write it down in this thread for us? How many people can this planet sustain?...give or take 100 million.

The planet can happily keep 1.5 billion Americans
Or 2.5 billion Europeans
Or 15 Billion Indians
Or even 18 billion Rwandans

[citizenx]

Since the population is expected to level off at 8 or 9, I guess the Earth at least won't be as bad as India right now -- and nowhere near as bad as Rwanda (in terms of average quality of life)  That's given no technological advancements between now and then -- unlikely.

[Geolibertarian]

Population should be governed to some degree , my best suggestion is that we take away the financial incentive for those on welfare to have more children. Instead of giving them for foodsatmps and welfare when they have an extra child , foodstamps and welfare should be cut for each new child. This would greatly reduce the growth we see.

As always, no mention of the imposing any sort of personal restrictions on bankers, even though the "welfare" they receive utterly dwarfs what the poor receive.

The right-wing propaganda machine has done its job well.

http://www.slate.com/id/2201641/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25430.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Blaming-The-Poor-For-Wall-by-Bob-Ryley-090523-321.html

[Kilgore Trout]

As always, no mention of the imposing any sort of personal restrictions on bankers, even though the "welfare" they receive utterly dwarfs what the poor receive.

The right-wing propaganda machine has done its job well.

http://www.slate.com/id/2201641/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25430.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Blaming-The-Poor-For-Wall-by-Bob-Ryley-090523-321.html

Well let me say , I don't bank , use credit or get involved in any other financial trickery, I'm of the opinion that banking and speculating are morally criminal enterprises.

[Dig]

Well let me say , I don't bank , use credit or get involved in any other financial trickery, I'm of the opinion that banking and speculating are morally criminal enterprises.

if you use cash, you are a victim of the inflation tax which creates subsidies to the elite and is a theft 1,000x greater than the handouts you might be focusing on.

the handout are there to distract you like the banker bonuses in the millions.

these people steal hundreds of trillions. they use creative incentive programs to provoke friction between the slaves. it is as old a technique as the pharaohs themselves.

[Kilgore Trout]

if you use cash, you are a victim of the inflation tax which creates subsidies to the elite and is a theft 1,000x greater than the handouts you might be focusing on.

the handout are there to distract you like the banker bonuses in the millions.

these people steal hundreds of trillions. they use creative incentive programs to provoke friction between the slaves. it is as old a technique as the pharaohs themselves.

Cash is KING and that's all I have , I will never be the victim of a bank run.

[37]

It's what "they" are selling.

Look at how the mainstream media pushes ridiculous overpopulation and global warming BS.

They want the ignorant to believe these things for a reason...what is it?

[Kilika]

Cash is KING and that's all I have , I will never be the victim of a bank run.

In theory, but more details exist with cash. That "Cash" you call king is just paper you know. One day they could announce a given currency is no long valid and now worthless. Then what about your cash? By the stoke of a pen your cash could go from king to trash overnight. That's hardly a stable kingdom! Besides, that cash isn't yours anyway, it belongs to the institution that issues it.

It's their party. You want to play, your stuck with their rules, or get rid of their party.

[Kilgore Trout]

In theory, but more details exist with cash. That "Cash" you call king is just paper you know. One day they could announce a given currency is no long valid and now worthless. Then what about your cash? By the stoke of a pen your cash could go from king to trash overnight. That's hardly a stable kingdom! Besides, that cash isn't yours anyway, it belongs to the institution that issues it.

It's their party. You want to play, your stuck with their rules, or get rid of their party.

Oh yes , I know well the value of the dollar is pure speculation and at any moment is could be worthless than toilet paper. When that happens it's onto the criminal underground. Robbing the corporations for their material property. what other choice will thos of us who will be outer grid?

[Michal Ptacnik]

When that happens everyone who does not conform becomes a criminal by default if they don't escape fully out the grid... but I don't think this will happen soon, perhaps even in the next 30 years.

[citizenx]

Seem to be several different (related) ISIS's (Institutes for Strategic and Security Studies) around the world.

I would look out for those organizations as well.

Bombshell from London
Eric Margolis  The Toronto Sun September 14, 2010

THE London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), is the world's leading think tank for military affairs. It represents the top echelon of defence experts, retired officers and senior military men, spanning the globe from the United States and Britain to China, Russia and India.

I've been an IISS member for over 20 years. IISS's reports are always authoritative but usually cautious and diplomatic, sometimes dull. However, two weeks ago the IISS issued an explosive report on Afghanistan that is shaking Washington and its Nato allies.

The report, presided over by the former deputy director of Britain's foreign intelligence agency, MI-6, says the threat from al-Qaeda and Taliban has been "exaggerated" by the western powers. The US-led mission in Afghanistan has "ballooned" out of all proportion from its original aim of disrupting and defeating al-Qaeda. The US-led war in Afghanistan, says IISS, using uncharacteristically blunt language, is "a long-drawn-out disaster".

for the rest of the article:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=13432

or

http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=51732

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180 degree turn?

Or, what are these fu#%ers up to now?

[Kilika]

When that happens everyone who does not conform becomes a criminal by default if they don't escape fully out the grid... but I don't think this will happen soon, perhaps even in the next 30 years.

But do you agree that we will be forced to make a choice of on-grid or off-grid at some point in the future?

[Geolibertarian]

But do you agree that we will be forced to make a choice of on-grid or off-grid at some point in the future?

Thanks to the banker-engineered depression, many have already been forced to "choose" the "off-grid" mode of existence.

It's called homelessness.

[Freeski]

Thanks to the banker-engineered depression, many have already been forced to "choose" the "off-grid" mode of existence.

It's called homelessness.

I've long thought that this is the root cause of homelessness: people's natural inability and/or lack of desire to conform to a pre-planned and controlled existence. The homeless, themselves, may not even be aware of why life is such a struggle for them since it's such a fundamental problem. You could even relate this to the "epidemic" of attention deficit "disorders" in schools, or even the general pop's inability to examine their world in any sort of depth. The spin-offs of totalitarian control are massive and far-reaching.

[Geolibertarian]

I've long thought that this is the root cause of homelessness: people's natural inability and/or lack of desire to conform to a pre-planned and controlled existence.

In most cases, it's because of a socially engineered lack of power on their part to resist corporate fascist oppression.

But since it requires much more thought and moral courage to politically attack the real culprits, most people prefer to blame the victim instead.

As Henry George put it in Protection or Free Trade (pp. 294-6):

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"In a society where unjust division of wealth gives the fruits of labor to those who do not labor, the classes who control the organs of public education and opinion—the classes to whom the many are accustomed to look for light and leading, must be loath to challenge the primary wrong, whatever it may be. This is inevitable, from the fact that the class of wealth and leisure, and consequently of culture and influence, must be, not the class which loses by the unjust distribution of wealth, but the class which (at least relatively) gains by it.

"Wealth means power and ‘responsibility,’ while poverty means weakness and disrepute. So in such a society the class that leads and is looked up to, while it may be willing to tolerate vague generalities and impracticable proposals, must frown on any attempt to trace social evils to their real cause, since that is the cause that gives their class superiority. On the other hand, the class that suffers by these evils is, on that account, the ignorant and uninfluential class, the class that, from its own consciousness of inferiority, is prone to accept the teachings and imbibe the prejudices of the one above it; while the men of superior ability that arise within it and elbow their way to the front are constantly received into the ranks of the superior class and interested in its service, for this is the class that has rewards to give. Thus it is that social injustice so long endures and is so difficult to make head against.

"Thus it was that in our Southern States while slavery prevailed, the influence, not only of the slaveholders themselves, but of churches and colleges, the professions and the press, condemned so effectually any questioning of slavery, that men who never owned and never expected to own a slave were ready to persecute and ostracize any one who breathed a word against property in flesh and blood—ready, even, when the time came, to go themselves and be shot in defense of the ‘peculiar institution.’

"Thus it was that even slaves believed abolitionists the worst of humankind, and were ready to join in the sport of tarring and feathering one."

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[Kilika]

I've long thought that this is the root cause of homelessness: people's natural inability and/or lack of desire to conform to a pre-planned and controlled existence. The homeless, themselves, may not even be aware of why life is such a struggle for them since it's such a fundamental problem. You could even relate this to the "epidemic" of attention deficit "disorders" in schools, or even the general pop's inability to examine their world in any sort of depth. The spin-offs of totalitarian control are massive and far-reaching.

At least in part, I think so. People don't want to participate in a system they know full well is wrong. It doesn't compute for them and many that aren't homeless and have fulltime jobs, except the employed end up blowing a gasket at work because they know what they are doing is a contradiction and helping forward something wrong, so they end up quiting job after job, or if they aren't grounded end up shooting a dozen coworkers during a completel mental breakdown.

I've spoken to many homeless and actually been there myself voluntarily, and the most common theme among them is a disdain for government and the way the world is forcing their ways on them. Heard it many times. Few know details, but they know it's all wrong, and they are trying to cope as best they can, seeing society has forced the homeless into a garbage-filled corner, which to the homeless simply proves their point that society doesn't care.

[Optimus]

Dominic Lawson: The population timebomb is a myth

The doom-sayers are becoming more fashionable just as experts are coming to the view it has all been one giant false alarm.

Tuesday, 18 January 2011

The human appetite for bad news knows no bounds. That is why gossip is usually malicious and why, on a grander scale, prophets of doom are always guaranteed a credulous audience. Conversely, good news – however well attested – is generally squeezed in the margins of newspapers.

For example, The Independent buried in a few paragraphs a story with the headline "Population growth not a threat, say engineers". But at least The Independent found some space to cover the publication of a report last week by the Institution of Mechanical Engineers entitled Population: One Planet, Too Many People? – I could find nothing about it in other newspapers.

The reason for that distinct lack of column inches is that the institution answered its own question in the negative. No, there are not (and will never be) too many people for the planet to feed. As the report's lead author, Dr Tim Fox, pointed out, its verdict is not based on speculative guesses about the development of new agricultural processes as yet unknown: "We can meet the challenge of feeding a planet of 9 billion people through the application of existing technologies". For example, Dr Fox pointed out, in Africa, no less than half the food produced is destroyed before it reaches its local marketplace: with refrigeration and good roads, the developing world could avoid this horrendous waste.

Interestingly, another detailed report on "sustainability" published last week by the French national agricultural and development research agencies came up with the same answer. The French scientists set themselves the goal of discovering whether a global population of 9 billion, the likely peak according to the UN, could readily have access to 3,000 calories a day, even as farms take measures to cut down on the use of fossil fuels and refrain from cutting down more forests: their answer was, you will be thrilled to know, "yes".

Some people will not be so thrilled. There is an increasingly noisy claque of Malthusians who insist that an "exploding" global population (as they put it) is going to lead to disaster – from Boris Johnson to Joanna Lumley, not to mention Jeremy Irons and Prince Charles. For example, last weekend The Independent published a lengthy interview with the Bermuda-based philanthropist James Martin, who has given Oxford University $125m to set up a forecasting institute in his name. Mr Martin's own forecast is that "by mid-century we're going to be using the term 'giga-famine', meaning a famine where more than a billion people will die, a catastrophe on a scale that's never been known before on Earth."

Martin sounds uncannily like Paul Ehrlich, the secular saint of the neo-Malthusian movement. Back in the 1970s, Ehrlich's book The Population Bomb became a global best-seller on the back of his forecast that by the end of the century even the United States would be enduring mass famine and that there was no better than a 50 per chance of anyone remaining alive in Great Britain by the year 2000. You might have thought that events would have discredited Ehrlich as a forecaster, but he is still constantly cited as an authority by the population control freaks, and is himself remarkably unbothered by the fact that agricultural techniques had rapidly developed in a way which he was unable to envisage. Asked in 2000 about his prediction of a wipe-out of the UK by famine, he replied: "If you look closely at England, what can I tell you? They're having all kinds of problems just like everybody else." If his original forecast had merely been that "The world – including Britain – will have all kinds of problems", I somehow doubt he would have found a publisher.

More: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/dominic-lawson-the-population-timebomb-is-a-myth-2186968.html

[Brocke]

Great article Route! Thanks

[egypt]

So we know that the NWO hold a position that is to basically eliminate most human. My question is, Whether or not you believe overpopulation exist at this time or not, sometime in the near future - there will be too many people for the earth's resources. Now this sounds evil when it's forced on you - but left to your own devices what is your answer to the issue.

What will you do? What plan will you have to STOP the growth?

It's not a matter of having enough "room". A mathematicians have calculated that there is enough room for every person on the planet to have 12 acres of his own land (as of 10 years ago).

It's the resources that are too few to provide for 8 billion people. AND the resources are being destroyed daily at massive rates. Toxins, pollutants, are killing the environment. Even though the earth has 2/3 water and less than 1% is drinkable and part of that is polluted and it's growing.

What do you think needs to be done?

It is only an excuse-perception of the elites  that there is overpopulation.  They seek a lack of a middle class as this is their threat.  They like a wide swath between themselves and the slave class.  Preferably a slave class that is forever incapable of going against themselves.  Overpopulation is the perpetuated falseness to accomplish their agenda with regard to having a slave class.

With industrialization (what the elites are preventing worldwide, except where it is completely under their control like China), familys naturally decrease.  Americans went from 13-15 kids, to 2-3 in no time.  This was without birth control as is provided.

Responsible, informed adults make the right decisions with the opportunity and means (financial?) to do so.

Resources?  Look at a world map.  Note that all human beings in the world could occupy a 1500 sq foot condo in Texas, alone.  Notice how much of our Earth is water.  Notice how much resources & space exists to grow food, animals habitat the wild, etc.

No.  Overpopulation is a myth perpetuated by the elite to gain control and live THEIR utopia.

Love, e

[EvadingGrid]

So we know that the NWO hold a position that is to basically eliminate most human. My question is, Whether or not you believe overpopulation exist at this time or not, sometime in the near future - there will be too many people for the earth's resources. Now this sounds evil when it's forced on you - but left to your own devices what is your answer to the issue.

What will you do? What plan will you have to STOP the growth?

It's not a matter of having enough "room". A mathematicians have calculated that there is enough room for every person on the planet to have 12 acres of his own land (as of 10 years ago).

It's the resources that are too few to provide for 8 billion people. AND the resources are being destroyed daily at massive rates. Toxins, pollutants, are killing the environment. Even though the earth has 2/3 water and less than 1% is drinkable and part of that is polluted and it's growing.

What do you think needs to be done?

Just get rid of the Malthusian Zombies and all will be fixed.     

[egypt]

Please know that I meant that persons in the world could occupy 1500 sq feet of space/EACH in Texas.  Sorry for my bad writing

Love, e

[donnay]

It is only an excuse-perception of the elites  that there is overpopulation.  They seek a lack of a middle class as this is their threat.  They like a wide swath between themselves and the slave class.  Preferably a slave class that is forever incapable of going against themselves.  Overpopulation is the perpetuated falseness to accomplish their agenda with regard to having a slave class.

With industrialization (what the elites are preventing worldwide, except where it is completely under their control like China), familys naturally decrease.  Americans went from 13-15 kids, to 2-3 in no time.  This was without birth control as is provided.

Responsible, informed adults make the right decisions with the opportunity and means (financial?) to do so.

Resources?  Look at a world map.  Note that all human beings in the world could occupy a 1500 sq foot condo in Texas, alone.  Notice how much of our Earth is water.  Notice how much resources & space exists to grow food, animals habitat the wild, etc.

No.  Overpopulation is a myth perpetuated by the elite to gain control and live THEIR utopia.

Love, e

Well said!  I knew what you meant! 

[amazon]

It is only an excuse-perception of the elites  that there is overpopulation.  They seek a lack of a middle class as this is their threat.  They like a wide swath between themselves and the slave class.  Preferably a slave class that is forever incapable of going against themselves.  Overpopulation is the perpetuated falseness to accomplish their agenda with regard to having a slave class./



Resources?  Look at a world map.  Note that
could occupy a 1500 sq foot condo in Texas, alone.  Notice how much of our Earth is water.  Notice how much resources & space exists to grow food, animals habitat the wild, etc.

No.  Overpopulation is a myth perpetuated by the elite to gain control and live THEIR utopia.

Love, e

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Dear MS E ,

Thanks for giving me the best laugh of today !
You rock !

xxx

Amazon

[Jimulacrum]

It has been noted that many of the massive protests taking place in the Middle East have been spurred by sharp increases in the price of foods over the past few years. No doubt they have, but it is unlikely that they will have any effect on those prices whatsoever. The people will rise up and overthrow government after government, and food prices will continue to rise anyway.

However, it’s not really a bad thing for food prices to rise globally. While it is unfortunate that people will starve, crime will increase, and other ills will be inflicted on society, those things will pass. In the long term, though, the human population of the earth needs it.

Continue at: http://verbellum.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/why-rising-food-prices-are-good/

[MonkeyPuppet]

Eugenicist garbage.

[Letsbereal]

I farmers got more money I would agree but this is not the case however.


Reasons for rising Food Prices:

1- Weather – Supply

2- Easy money printing by the US driving up commodities

3- Speculation on the future Market – Derivatives

4- Land Speculation – buying up of land by the West

5- Ethanol taking land from food for energy

6- Land erosion destroying furtile land

7- Less and Less farmers and no new ones to take their place (average age of farmer is 58) – People move to big cities

[Optimus]

It has been noted that many of the massive protests taking place in the Middle East have been spurred by sharp increases in the price of foods over the past few years. No doubt they have, but it is unlikely that they will have any effect on those prices whatsoever. The people will rise up and overthrow government after government, and food prices will continue to rise anyway.

However, it’s not really a bad thing for food prices to rise globally. While it is unfortunate that people will starve, crime will increase, and other ills will be inflicted on society, those things will pass. In the long term, though, the human population of the earth needs it.

Continue at: http://verbellum.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/why-rising-food-prices-are-good/

Brainwashed Malthusian propaganda.

[DAVIDE MTL]

It has been noted that many of the massive protests taking place in the Middle East have been spurred by sharp increases in the price of foods over the past few years. No doubt they have, but it is unlikely that they will have any effect on those prices whatsoever. The people will rise up and overthrow government after government, and food prices will continue to rise anyway.

However, it’s not really a bad thing for food prices to rise globally. While it is unfortunate that people will starve, crime will increase, and other ills will be inflicted on society, those things will pass. In the long term, though, the human population of the earth needs it.

Continue at: http://verbellum.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/why-rising-food-prices-are-good/

lol..thanks for the laugh