Hitler Vs. Bush. Lets think about the similarities

[Dan]

I have been doing limited research on this topic and have come up with a few points witch should raise an eyebrow or two.  Such as the well known likeness of 9-11 to the reistag fire.  The attitude of being above the law, or if not above it, rewrite the law around what I am doing to make it legal.  Please let me know your observations and together we can piece this together and try to let others know.

Dan

[uwaf]

ALL OF THEM

[Kregener]

They are both inept, bumbling idiots who were put in place by a higher power structure and used to further an agenda.

[tearanew1]

Hitler was talented at public speaking

[Mr Grinch]

Heres some good reading. The real history that was conveniently omitted from the history we were taught.

This is a history of the order of skull and bones.(you may have to try again if dl stops)
 http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119639.pdf

This one is Wall street and the rise of Hitler...
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html

Hes got more free dl's at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

Once you read some of this it will make way more sense.

[Kregener]

Just do not trust Wikipedia too much, find other sources if you can.

[Mr Grinch]

I agree completely however in the wiki bibliography of Sutton there are links to archived online free books by Antony Sutton, thus the link to wiki scroll down.

[jbrid1138]

Let's see now, GWB's grand daddy worked for Mr. Hitler // and Hitler allowed him to.  So I suppose they do have something in common.  I liked the post that stated that Hitler was a much better public speaker -- for sure he was that.  His dog, Blondie, had more speaking ability than GWB has.

Both wanted (s) to rule the world.  Both had an inner circle around them that thought the two men did no wrong, no matter how much wrong they did (or in GWB's case -- continue to do).

[rahman605]

Both are mastermind puppets who will do anything to please their masters. It's confirmed that the two men have both 'sold' their souls to the devil, and satanic societies long ago ; Adolph Hitler to the Thule and Vril society; and George W. Bush to the Skull and Bones. Once the two men were inducted into the satanic societies - by offering effigies and conducting 'bloodbaths', the two men from there were inspected and eventually conditioned enough to become human-less psychopaths hellbent on promoting the Elitist agenda. Notice the similarities? 

[jbrid1138]

OKAY, FOR YOU THAT FIND NO SIMILARITY BETWEEN THESE TWO -- THAT'S ENTIRELY YOUR CALL TO MAKE.

BUT DO CONSIDER THIS LITTLE GESTURE (SALUTE) WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT GWB TRULY THINKS OF YOU AND ME -- AND OUR CONSTITUTION.

[clint]

Hitler had a great mustache, as did Sadam. Bush hasn't even got one. I think Bush should have a walrus mustache.

[jbrid1138]

-- Look close here, this isn't Charlie Chaplin [\b]


--edited to add:

(Google Video - 2 hr, 6 min)
9/11 THE GREATEST LIE EVER SOLD
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950

[Kregener]

I may have too much time on my hands, but this was fun for me!


Read the opening bio on THIS, and then below.


George W. Bush (born July 6, 1946) is the leader of the Neoconservative Party of America. He was appointed The Decider in 2000, and became Führer (leader) in 2001, after planes struck the WTC Towers in New York City and the Pentagon, remaining in power until he started WWIII with neocon rhetoric and war fervor.
The Neoconservative Party under Bush gained power during America's period of crisis after 9/11, using propaganda and goofy oratory, emphasizing nationalism, pro-zionism and arrest and IRS auditing of political opponents. After instituting the ominous USA PATRIOT Act, destroying the economy and rearming the military, a dictatorship commonly characterized as totalitarian or fascist was established. Bush pursued an aggressive foreign policy, with an ideological goal of American Imperialism. The American invasion of Iraq in 2003 triggered Global Financial Meltdown with the devaluation of the dollar.

The Axis of Evil occupied a small portion of the Middle East and a very small part of Asia. With no end to the war in sight, Bush's policies of territorial conquest and spiritual subjugation had brought death and destruction to millions of people, in what is now known as one of the greatest policy blunders in political history.

In the final days of the war before the nuclear bombardment, Bush enjoyed clearing brush on his ranch outside Crawford, Texas, as the nation was overrun by La Raza of Marxist Mexico

 

[Dan]

I have a new blog about this topic.  I am reading 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' and posting similarities between then and now.  Check it out.

www.getinformedtoday.blogspot.com

Dan

[Dan]

My new blog post.

www.getinformedtoday.blogspot.com

Friday, January 11, 2008
Organization and Election Suspension
 
I am still reading. Slow but steady. I am currently on page 157. Hitler is making the final arrangements in order to weasel his way into power. Germany has been going through tough times and the Nazi party (aka the National Socialists) seemed to have all of the answers for a people in dire straights.

Hitler has already figured out that a rebellion through force to remove the current government from power would never work. The new power that would be instated would fall within a short amount of time due to lack of structure. Because of this, Hitler decided to institute a new direction for the Nazi party.

Page 120
"The Political organization of the Nazi party was divided into two groups: P.O. I, as it was known, designed to attack and undermine the government, and P.O. II to establish a state within a state. Thus the second group had departments of agriculture, justice, national economy, interior and labor-and, with an eye to the future, of race and culture, and of engineering."

"After considerable difficulties the S.A. was reorganized into an armed band of several thousand men to protect Nazi meetings, to break up the meetings of others and to generally terrorize those who opposed Hitler."

"To have a more dependable band Hitler created the S.S.-Schutzstaffel-put their members in black uniforms similar to those worn by the Italian Fascisti and made them swear a special oath of loyalty to him personally. At first the S.S. was nothing more than a bodyguard for the Fuhrer."

Hitler positioned people in charge of these departments that he could trust. Loyal followers from the early days. He understood that in order for him to succeed in taking control of Germany, it must be a seamless transition from the current situation to the ruling of the Nazis'.


On page 153, the book talks about how the Chancellor of Germany was concocting a plan to eliminate any possibility of Hitler coming to power. He was thinking of returning the republic to a dictatorship thereby locking Hitler out of the power seat he so desperately desired.

Page 153
"Bruening (Chancellor) planned to move boldly on the home front too and to bring about by agreement of all the major parties save the Communists a fundamental change in the German constitution. He meant to restore the Hohenzollern monarchy. Even if Hindenburg (President and 84 years old) could be persuaded to run again, he could not be expected at his age to live out another full term of seven years. Should he die in another year of two, the way would still be open to Hitler to be elected President. To forestall that, to assure permanency and stability in the office of head of state, Bruening broached the following plan: The 1932 presidential elections would be called off and Hindenburg's term of office simply extended, as it could be, by a two-thirds vote in the two houses of Parliament, the Reichstag and the Reichstrat. As soon as that was achieved, he would propose that Parliament proclaim a monarchy with the President as regent. On his death, one of the sons of the Crown Prince would be put on the Hohenzollern throne. This act too would take the wind out of the Nazis; in fact Bruening was confident that it would mean their end as a political force."

Now I have been saying for years now, that I can see the current administration trying to suspend the Presidential election in 2008 for many reasons; First of which is, Some kind of new 9-11 or Pearl Harbor. Bringing into question the security of the American nation and declaring Martial Law. Easily done thanks to the Patriot Act I and II and PDD 51, not to mention the Military Commission Act. Second reason I see coming is because of a well timed outbreak of war with a new enemy like Iran. It would be ill advised to change command in the middle of a national crisis like that. We will suspend the elections until the situation is stable enough to focus our attention away from it and back to the elections. Of course which will never happen. Again thanks to the Patriot Act I and II, PDD 51 and the Military Commission Act.

If you look closely at how our Presidential election has been going it is like a skipping record: 1981-Reagan...1985-Reagan...1989-Bush Sr.....1993-Clinton.....1997-Clinton....2001-Bush Jr.......2005-Bush Jr....2009-Clinton?

For twenty years the same people have been running this country. They have appointed everyone sitting in the position of power, from the cabinet members to the Supreme Court Justices to the heads of the CIA, FBI and Federal Reserve Bank (A privately owned and operated bank controlling the currency of the United States of America.). The people are in place, just like Hitlers.......the events are lining up, just like in Germany......all it will take is the command, just like Hitler in Germany.

Thanks for reading this and I hope I made sense of this all. As always, I look forward to reading your comments and view points on this topic. Please post them.

Thanks
Dan

[Jackson Holly]

~ ADOLF BUSH ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rlp_8UCy8w

This one is SCARY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_QY8L-J_bs&NR=1

[Juntawatch]

When I was about 8 years old my Dad who worked for the UK's Ministry Of Defence (MOD) and who was a staunch & fearsome conservative once remarked in response to a question about the nazis & the war:
"Hitler was a genius". This was about 19 years after end of WWII.
 
A little later, when irate about my developing childhood tendencies towards pacifism following the death of my Mum added:
"What would you do if a Nazi was to break through that front door now and attack me, would you just be peaceful?"
Remember, I was about 8 or 9 yrs.

In retrospect, surely I should have responded:
"But Da' would you really want me to take an axe and kill a genius?"

Either way, when Bush's war-crimes trial comes around followed some years later by a Hollywood depiction of the event, I propose Tommy Lee Jones to play Bush. Why, he's most of a splitting image as well as sounding like him.

[Dig]

When I was about 8 years old my Dad who worked for the UK's Ministry Of Defence (MOD) and who was a staunch & fearsome conservative once remarked in response to a question about the nazis & the war:
"Hitler was a genius". This was about 19 years after end of WWII.
 
A little later, when irate about my developing childhood tendencies towards pacifism following the death of my Mum added:
"What would you do if a Nazi was to break through that front door now and attack me, would you just be peaceful?"
Remember, I was about 8 or 9 yrs.

In retrospect, surely I should have responded:
"But Da' would you really want me to take an axe and kill a genius?"

Either way, when Bush's war-crimes trial comes around followed some years later by a Hollywood depiction of the event, I propose Tommy Lee Jones to play Bush. Why, he's most of a splitting image as well as sounding like him.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117979349.html?categoryid=10&cs=1

Oliver Stone votes for 'Bush' project
Josh Brolin to play embattled president
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Oliver Stone has set his sights on his next directing project, "Bush," a film focusing on the life and presidency of George W. Bush, and attached Josh Brolin to play the title role.

The director has begun quietly shopping a script by his "Wall Street" co-writer Stanley Weiser.

Pic will be produced by Moritz Borman, who teamed with Stone on "World Trade Center" and "Alexander," and Jon Kilik, a producer of "Alexander" as well as "Pinkville," the pre-strike project about the Army's investigation of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam that Stone expected to direct until United Artists pulled the plug late last year.

Borman said Weiser's script was completed before the WGA strike and was ready to shoot and that many of Stone's "Pinkville" crew jumped right into "Bush." If financing materializes quickly enough, the film could start production by April and could be in theaters for the election or the inauguration.

One need only Google the words "Stone" and "Bush" to find plenty of the director's critical comments about the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq. Despite that, the director said he's not looking to make an anti-Bush polemic. His goal is to use seminal events in Bush's life to explain how he came to power, using a structure comparable to "The Queen."

"It's a behind-the-scenes approach, similar to 'Nixon,' to give a sense of what it's like to be in his skin," Stone told Daily Variety. "But if 'Nixon' was a symphony, this is more like a chamber piece, and not as dark in tone. People have turned my political ideas into a cliche, but that is superficial. I'm a dramatist who is interested in people, and I have empathy for Bush as a human being, much the same as I did for Castro, Nixon, Jim Morrison, Jim Garrison and Alexander the Great."

Stone declined to give his personal opinion of the president.

"I can't give you that, because the filmmaker has to hide in the work," Stone said. "Here, I'm the referee, and I want a fair, true portrait of the man. How did Bush go from an alcoholic bum to the most powerful figure in the world? It's like Frank Capra territory on one hand, but I'll also cover the demons in his private life, his bouts with his dad and his conversion to Christianity, which explains a lot of where he is coming from. It includes his belief that God personally chose him to be president of the United States, and his coming into his own with the stunning, preemptive attack on Iraq. It will contain surprises for Bush supporters and his detractors."

Stone said his NYU classmate Weiser did a lot of research as they worked for more than a year on the project before setting the script aside when Stone committed to "Pinkville." While UA partners Paula Wagner and Tom Cruise said they pulled the plug on that movie because of the WGA strike, Stone seemed to support widespread speculation that the strike was an excuse to kill another war-themed movie that UA was wary of making after its first release, "Lions for Lambs," flopped.

"On 'Pinkville,' I had a great script and one of the best casts on any of my films, with 40 young actors and Bruce Willis," Stone said. "It's a shame they lost faith in the film, and that they unemployed 500 people right before Christmas. We were three weeks from shooting."

Stone hopes to get his script back so he can revive "Pinkville" down the line.

Stone, Weiser and Borman had kept the "Bush" script under tight wraps, developing it under "POTUS" (President of the United States) and "Misunderestimated." Now they're aiming for a quick ramp-up to production, though both Stone and Borman believe the project will remain viable even after the presidential election.

"We've just gone out with it, and April is just around the corner," Borman said. "If we can get it done as an independent or with a studio, we can do it quickly, but nobody really knows what is happening with the SAG situation. We've found locations in Louisiana, but we will have to build sets, especially the White House. We could do it later, because it's not a film that has to be timed with the election; it's a character study of a man."

Stone looked carefully at actors before setting his sights on Brolin, whose career has drawn recent traction from memorable roles in "No Country for Old Men" and "American Gangster." Brolin just began work on the Gus Van Sant-directed "Milk," playing Dan White, the San Francisco pol who gunned down Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. While Brolin won't make a formal deal until financing is sealed, he can be ready for an April start.

"Josh is actually better looking than Bush but has the same drive and charisma that Americans identify with Bush, who has some of that old-time movie-star swagger," Stone said.

[lord edward coke]

directive 51

[joebogarde]

The only comparison I can think of, (original that is), Is that the Prussian educational system was foisted on the Germans, about 100 years before the police state, and militarism really got out of hand, and Hitler was elected.

The US adopted the Prussian educational system about 1890-1920, at least thats when the bulk of the textbooks shifted over into propaganda, rather than informative texts.

We have had 100 years or more to steep in the hot water, our people are just dumb enough to follow any idiot with a plan. And after Clinton many Republicans were willing to accept any dummy that came along with a "conservative" plan. What we end up with regardless of party is socialism. But the people don't see that. All you have to do is pay lip service to "market economy" and maintain the illusion of such. The people will follow.

People have accepted the "Authority as truth", rather than "Truth as authority". All you have to do is call it freedom, and people, out of habit, will support it.

All you have to do is call it capitalism, and people will buy it. People don't read. They don't talk to their neighbors, hell, they don't even know their neighbors. Our families are destroyed, our communities are destroyed, and all from within.

People need to take the country back, because you can browbeat Bush all day long. They will just install another puppet "bird cage liner" (I love the analogy) and start from scratch. What we need is an agenda.

First: Education reform. This is open ended, as it is a local issue. See the tenth amendment below.

Second: Respect the Tenth Amendment, community control of Education.

Third: Respect for the division of powers as laid out in the constitution.

Fourth: Community involvement. We have to pick up the slack, retrain and inform all those used to sucking on a lactating government breast for all their infantile needs. This includes millions of useless employees working in government in one form or another. This also includes those dependent on gov. handouts, who as Dr. Paul suggested should not be turned out on the streets.

Please add to this list. We need a real agenda to bring change. And your ideas will help my struggle with the local Republican Party to bring sensibility to the platform. Looking at it they are just pandering to evangelicals, (of whom I don't count myself.) I'm a lapsed protestant, I believe in the philosophy, but not in eternal life. That's a pipe dream.

Leave it to me to go off topic. But thinking in context, everything is tied together.

[Dan]

People need to take the country back, because you can browbeat Bush all day long. They will just install another puppet "bird cage liner" (I love the analogy) and start from scratch. What we need is an agenda.

First: Education reform. This is open ended, as it is a local issue. See the tenth amendment below.

Second: Respect the Tenth Amendment, community control of Education.

Third: Respect for the division of powers as laid out in the constitution.

Fourth: Community involvement. We have to pick up the slack, retrain and inform all those used to sucking on a lactating government breast for all their infantile needs. This includes millions of useless employees working in government in one form or another. This also includes those dependent on gov. handouts, who as Dr. Paul suggested should not be turned out on the streets.

The forth one is the most important one on the list.  The communitiy needs to be involved.  This means every aspect is decided in an orderly and informed manner.  See resposnse to my brothers blog copied below:

Throwback Party
www.throwback2012.blogspot.com

Well, it seems that we have a little debate here. I am personally on the fence when it comes to home schooling. I have issues with the level of education that the children get yet I do not think that government intervention is the right thing either, per say. I believe that there should be a monitoring system in place, but only on the core subjects. I.E. Math, Science, History and English. This system would test only on those subjects and at a broad level. That means that you don’t have to be at the same level as the structured school children exactly, but as long as you are within a certain range. I also believe that the community should be the ones who approve of the testing materials. If not the community, then the state as the highest level of interfering government. This is a diverse country and there is no one answer fits all. The Federal government has no business getting involved in the day to day activities of the states or the communities. The standards set in California may not meet or may way exceed the standards set in Maine. Not to say who is right or who is wrong.

Another thing is that home schooling does not mean that the parents teach the children everything. There are many “unemployed” teachers out there with multiple degrees that are opting to teach home school kids instead of teaching in an over regulated and corrupt education system which is the case in many districts. I refer anyone to the early post of Rich’s about the early days of teaching. This is what is making a comeback today with the independent teachers teaching home school kids in an independent classroom with a better learning environment. I honestly think that home schooling is a good option for the kids if the parents do the proper research and make the right decisions regarding their children’s future.

As far as the teaching of religion in the classroom goes; I do not care if it is Christianity, Buddhism, Muslim, Hinduism, or any other religion….it should be an elective taught to the children who elect to learn it. I agree that it would be best to teach it as an after school class. No one can argue that religion is a theory about the presence of a greater being, and that that being created us all….just like those people cannot argue that the big bang theory is just that, a theory. If the children want to learn about a specific religion, than they can opt to learn about it after school, without the hostile environment that will occur in a standard classroom with close minded individuals. But that is their right to be close minded so you cannot fault them for that, all you can do is make the learning environment suitable for the kids that want to learn. If you start to make religion an educational topic, then people are going to want credit for all of the learning that they do at their prospective worship centers (Sunday school and such).

As far as the whole idea of this being a debate on this blog. I like that we are debating but please do not be fooled anyone, Rich is a fan of small government and community controlled local governments having most of the power locally. His platform so far has to reduce the amount of interference the Federal government has on our day to day lives. The only thing he can do as the President is to release control of the education system and disband the whole US Department of Education. (Not such a bad thing considering that education levels in this country have steadily declined since the implementation of the department.). It will be up to the community to decide what is best for their children. Imagine that, parents actually getting involved with the education system and not using it as a day care. Actually being responsible for their child’s education instead of giving the schools a five year old that cant count to 5, doesn’t know his ABC’s, and barley has any kind of social skills, then blaming the teachers for not being able to get their child up to speed. This is really what we need when it comes to the future of the education system and the development of our children. PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT.

Dan

February 16, 2008 8:58 PM