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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 10:06:10 PM »
Hi stray.......Snap,      crackle and pop.

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2015, 10:09:08 PM »
It will definitely get ugly if people go hungry.  SMDH
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2015, 10:26:59 PM »
This is how the government runs now. They've been well aware of this deadline and have purposefully taken things up to the last minute.

“If you don't rubber stamp everything we want (i.e. planned parenthood funding), then it will be your fault when those people go hungry!”

Then when some useless jacked up agency gets funded to ultimately harm the public, they'll have the excuse, “We had to compromise to keep people from going hungry.”

Mafia tactics.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2015, 10:45:15 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 10:46:30 PM »
This is how the government runs now. They've been well aware of this deadline and have purposefully taken things up to the last minute.

“If you don't rubber stamp everything we want (i.e. planned parenthood funding), then it will be your fault when those people go hungry!”

Then when some useless jacked up agency gets funded to ultimately harm the public, they'll have the excuse, “We had to compromise to keep people from going hungry.”

Mafia tactics.

Exactly.

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 12:08:38 AM »


  We can give Iran $150 billion---our enemy.  But we cannot feed the poor people.  Washington DC is filled with horses asses.  The biggest horses ass is Obama.

  Death to the NWO.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 12:13:29 AM »

  We can give Iran $150 billion---our enemy.  But we cannot feed the poor people.  Washington DC is filled with horses asses.  The biggest horses ass is Obama.

  Death to the NWO.


Doc, you just insulted horses asses.  They are more like pond scum.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 12:19:36 AM »
Could Government shutdown cut off war spending?
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 12:23:51 AM »
Doc, you just insulted horses asses.  The are more like pond scum.  ;)

  I don't think there is a word to describe these people who don't represent their constituents.

 
  SNAP costs around $75 billion a year for the nation.

   They play the same BS game every year.  This year it's about funding or not funding Planned Abortions Parenthood.

  $75 billion is nothing when the government spends trillions.

  Obama and Hillary want to kill more babies SO THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD CAN HARVEST THEIR ORGANS.

  There is a special place in hell for Obama, Hillary and their twisted followers.

 
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2015, 12:38:00 AM »
Could Government shutdown cut off war spending?



  Well, IMO the Military-Industrial Complex will ALWAYS GET THEIR MONEY..
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2015, 01:03:25 AM »
Doc,

That may be your opinion,

But I think

it is a fact!

The USA is so run down by these carpetbaggers
thaTt the only way for the USA economy to function at all
is to build and sell military equipment!


Tell me if I am wrong.

  I pretty much know it is a fact.  All this money is stolen by the NWO scum and the bankers.

  Nice to hear from you Amazon.  I hope you are doing well with your health.  You are in my prayers.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2015, 08:09:30 AM »
How to start a riot: Cut off food stamps.

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2015, 08:50:59 AM »
Like all the past cutoffs of funding ....only meant to SCARE the sheep,

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Government shutdown could cut off food stamps for some Americans who depend on the food aid.

main word there is COULD.    Politics as usual.

How to start a riot: Cut off food stamps.
the powers that wanna be know that, and do not want that huge awakening,  (they prefer the slow kill.)
Say enough to freighten the sheep,  feed em the bulls**t .  Politics as usual.
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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2015, 09:41:31 AM »
But is there even a remote chance that usury will be "suspended until further notice"?

Of course not.

"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2015, 09:45:46 AM »
How to start a riot: Cut off food stamps.

More precisely, how banker-owned politicians from both major parties start an IMF riot: by sadistically making the poor pay for the crimes of the parasitic usurers and rentiers who disproportionately compose the top .001%.

"At this point, the IMF drags the gasping nation to Step Three: Market-Based Pricing, a fancy term for raising prices on food, water and cooking gas. This leads, predictably, to Step-Three-and-a-Half: what [Joseph] Stiglitz calls, 'The IMF riot.'

"The IMF riot is painfully predictable. When a nation is, 'down and out, [the IMF] takes advantage and squeezes the last pound of blood out of them. They turn up the heat until, finally, the whole cauldron blows up,' as when the IMF eliminated food and fuel subsidies for the poor in Indonesia in 1998. Indonesia exploded into riots, but there are other examples - the Bolivian riots over water prices last year and this February, the riots in Ecuador over the rise in cooking gas prices imposed by the World Bank. You'd almost get the impression that the riot is written into the plan."






“The Third World War has already started -- a silent war, not for that reason any less sinister. This war is tearing down Brazil, Latin America and practically all the Third World. Instead of soldiers dying there are children, instead of millions of wounded there are millions of unemployed; instead of destruction of bridges there is the tearing down of factories, schools, hospitals, and entire economies….It is a war over the foreign debt, one which has as its main weapon interest, a weapon more deadly than the atom bomb, more shattering than a laser beam.”

-- Luis Ignacio Silva, as quoted on page 238 of A Fate Worse Than Debt by Susan George


“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."

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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2015, 12:26:57 PM »
Doc ,

So nice to know you are still here after all these years !

How's the pizza business? LOL
O to be in Montana where I could shoot
not just my crossbow,
but a gun!
Is there medical marijuana there yet ?

I pray for divine protection for all forum members daily.
I am so grateful for your prayers.
I know prayer can work miracles!

Let's keep this food stamp topic alive on the board
so all in the USA are aware that they are going to be abused by this rogue government.

I hear so much talk against socialism
by AJ and others in this forum.

But here in the UK,
when I was healthy and able to work,
40% in taxes was taken out  before I got my paycheck.

When I could not work due to fibromyalgia,
and now that I am officially at retirement age,
I receive a guaranteed pension allowance,
a housing benefit that partially covers my rent,
a free bus pass
(so I can travel by bus all over the country),
and EG still receives a small weekly benefit as he is my official "carer".

I was not here long enough in the UK to have a substantial pension saved up.
I do not want to touch the small amount in my NHS pension;
it is there for emergencies.

And I know all the thousands of dollars ,
which I paid to social security for over 30 years in the USA is lost.
Lost!
No point in me requesting it, is there ?

I cannot criticize socialism here in the UK.
The sick and the poor and the unemployed do not go hungry.
We are not homeless.
The really disabled are helped to become mobile,
whether by being given electric carts with which to travel,
or even the rare automobile !
But petrol aka gasoline is very expensive,
as is road tax and car insurance.
Most people use buses and trains in order to travel.
That is what we do.

The government,
no matter what political party is in office,
still believes in free health care.
Those who work and pay for Prescriptions pay only £5 per script.
Those over age 60, or who are ill like me,
get necessary medicines for free.

We  get basic dental care for free.
If I want my teeth cleaned more than once a year,
I must pay for that.
Basic eyeglasses and false teeth
and plastic plates to stop teeth grinding are all free for those in need.

If I were stronger,
for a small fee, I could request "an allotment",
which is a decent sized plot of land nearby my house
where I could grow food to supplement  store bought goods !
If available, I could request and receive more than one plot of land !

This sense of being a Christian country,
and treating the people as Jesus would,
is so entrenched in the government
that those of us in need can sleep at night,
knowing we won't go hungry the next day !

We do not live in luxury.
No, far from it.
I have an upper class education,
but I am considered lower class because of my illness.
But I have self-respect
and I am treated with respect by society.

This system works.

In the USA,
I always said that I would not mind paying higher taxes
if I knew that the money was used
to insure that those in need were taken care of.
My fellow students in my doctoral programme were shocked.
"Are you really a socialist?" one asked.
"No", I replied. "But I believe in justice for the common people."

There is that not so old adage that
"you can judge the worth of a society by the way it treats it's poor".
Well, the UK  does a decent, but not perfect job here.
The USA fails miserably.

So here I am...living proof that there is something better
than absolute libertarianism,
which works fine if you are healthy,
but allows those in need to fall through the cracks.

And yes, I love AJ and his ideals.
I support many of them.
I devote my free time with helping EG behind the scenes,
which is why my post count is so low.

But who takes care of the sick and unemployed in the USA ?
The churches take a limited responsibility.
But would they pay my rent ?
Provide me with a house and pay part of my rent?
Pay my medical bills ?

I sincerely doubt that I could trust the American people to do
what the UK government is doing to help us.
Where did we Americans go wrong?
Everyman/woman for themselves ?
Equal opportunity to starve ?
Work 2 jobs and still not enough money to live on ?

People scrape along trying to come up with money to buy food stamps !
And now the USA rogue government wants to take the food stamps away ?!

We MUST NOT allow this to happen !
People must protest out on the streets !

Tell their local representatives that they will not be reelected if this is done !

The people of the USA must rise up and DEMAND that this benefit remain.

We cannot allow the rogue government to starve the American people to death !

A very angry Amazon
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  It is so nice to hear from you.  I cherish all of your posts.

  I pray for you and EG EVERYDAY.

  SOUNDS LIKE ENGLAND TAKES VERY GOOD CARE OF THEIR ELDERLY.

  As for your social security IN AMERICA, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD APPLY FOR IT.

  You paid into the system for 30 years.  I believe that you may receive $400 to up to $1000 a month.

  Google MY SOCIAL SECURITY and set up an account at Social Security.  It is worth a try and you paid into the system.

  You are not an angry Amazon.  You are a Blessed Amazon.

  The Lord has given you extra years to do good.

  Take care my friend.

 
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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2015, 01:00:10 PM »
Doc ,

So nice to know you are still here after all these years !

How's the pizza business? LOL
O to be in Montana where I could shoot
not just my crossbow,
but a gun!
Is there medical marijuana there yet ?

I pray for divine protection for all forum members daily.
I am so grateful for your prayers.
I know prayer can work miracles!

Let's keep this food stamp topic alive on the board
so all in the USA are aware that they are going to be abused by this rogue government.

I hear so much talk against socialism
by AJ and others in this forum.

But here in the UK,
when I was healthy and able to work,
40% in taxes was taken out  before I got my paycheck.

When I could not work due to fibromyalgia,
and now that I am officially at retirement age,
I receive a guaranteed pension allowance,
a housing benefit that partially covers my rent,
a free bus pass
(so I can travel by bus all over the country),
and EG still receives a small weekly benefit as he is my official "carer".

I was not here long enough in the UK to have a substantial pension saved up.
I do not want to touch the small amount in my NHS pension;
it is there for emergencies.

And I know all the thousands of dollars ,
which I paid to social security for over 30 years in the USA is lost.
Lost!
No point in me requesting it, is there ?

I cannot criticize socialism here in the UK.
The sick and the poor and the unemployed do not go hungry.
We are not homeless.
The really disabled are helped to become mobile,
whether by being given electric carts with which to travel,
or even the rare automobile !
But petrol aka gasoline is very expensive,
as is road tax and car insurance.
Most people use buses and trains in order to travel.
That is what we do.

The government,
no matter what political party is in office,
still believes in free health care.
Those who work and pay for Prescriptions pay only £5 per script.
Those over age 60, or who are ill like me,
get necessary medicines for free.

We  get basic dental care for free.
If I want my teeth cleaned more than once a year,
I must pay for that.
Basic eyeglasses and false teeth
and plastic plates to stop teeth grinding are all free for those in need.

If I were stronger,
for a small fee, I could request "an allotment",
which is a decent sized plot of land nearby my house
where I could grow food to supplement  store bought goods !
If available, I could request and receive more than one plot of land !

This sense of being a Christian country,
and treating the people as Jesus would,
is so entrenched in the government
that those of us in need can sleep at night,
knowing we won't go hungry the next day !

We do not live in luxury.
No, far from it.
I have an upper class education,
but I am considered lower class because of my illness.
But I have self-respect
and I am treated with respect by society.

This system works.

In the USA,
I always said that I would not mind paying higher taxes
if I knew that the money was used
to insure that those in need were taken care of.
My fellow students in my doctoral programme were shocked.
"Are you really a socialist?" one asked.
"No", I replied. "But I believe in justice for the common people."

There is that not so old adage that
"you can judge the worth of a society by the way it treats it's poor".
Well, the UK  does a decent, but not perfect job here.
The USA fails miserably.

So here I am...living proof that there is something better
than absolute libertarianism,
which works fine if you are healthy,
but allows those in need to fall through the cracks.

And yes, I love AJ and his ideals.
I support many of them.
I devote my free time with helping EG behind the scenes,
which is why my post count is so low.

But who takes care of the sick and unemployed in the USA ?
The churches take a limited responsibility.
But would they pay my rent ?
Provide me with a house and pay part of my rent?
Pay my medical bills ?

I sincerely doubt that I could trust the American people to do
what the UK government is doing to help us.
Where did we Americans go wrong?
Everyman/woman for themselves ?
Equal opportunity to starve ?
Work 2 jobs and still not enough money to live on ?

People scrape along trying to come up with money to buy food stamps !
And now the USA rogue government wants to take the food stamps away ?!

We MUST NOT allow this to happen !
People must protest out on the streets !

Tell their local representatives that they will not be reelected if this is done !

The people of the USA must rise up and DEMAND that this benefit remain.

We cannot allow the rogue government to starve the American people to death !

A very angry Amazon
x

I'm so happy for you and EG, Amazon.

There used to be very very few who really needed help in America, until the socialism legislation started being passed.  Before socialism, free health care and other needs were met.  Not until 1972 or so did we start to see homeless which are now prolific.  Socialism legislation brought about the avenues to create CPS to destroy the family.  This in turn, destroys society and it has broken down.   Socialism is what is bringing down our country.  A country, btw like none other in standards of living before socialism set in.  I look around and I see third-world services, cleanliness standards, products available and a bunch of angry, unhappy people.  Education has reached the lowest it could ever be to where there is no education, and worse - improper education.  I will never believe socialism is good.  Possibly it is good for an interim to gain complete power until the exterminations begin..    And, I appreciate your personal view in being taken care of by your government, am certainly glad you are not in such need anymore, but what about those little old ladies that ride the bus to stay warm in the winter?   Will you be taking in militant and angry militants to live in your home?  Love, e

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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2015, 04:02:16 PM »
I'm so happy for you and EG, Amazon.

There used to be very very few who really needed help in America, until the socialism legislation started being passed.  Before socialism, free health care and other needs were met.  Not until 1972 or so did we start to see homeless which are now prolific.  Socialism legislation brought about the avenues to create CPS to destroy the family.  This in turn, destroys society and it has broken down.   Socialism is what is bringing down our country.  A country, btw like none other in standards of living before socialism set in.  I look around and I see third-world services, cleanliness standards, products available and a bunch of angry, unhappy people.  Education has reached the lowest it could ever be to where there is no education, and worse - improper education.  I will never believe socialism is good.  Possibly it is good for an interim to gain complete power until the exterminations begin..    And, I appreciate your personal view in being taken care of by your government, am certainly glad you are not in such need anymore, but what about those little old ladies that ride the bus to stay warm in the winter?   Will you be taking in militant and angry militants to live in your home?  Love, e


I agree Egypt socialism is not the answer to ensure Liberty.  Rugged Individualism and self-sufficiency is what made America great.  It is the welfare/warfare system that has slowly taken this country to it's knees.  Of course that has been the agenda to knock us into a third world nation.  It's a travesty.
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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2015, 04:24:36 PM »
Millions more people in need of work than there are job openings? Then cut long-term unemployment benefits, or else you're a freedom-hating "socialist."

Millions of people "dependent" upon food stamps because they don't have enough money to feed themselves after being rent-gouged by slumlords and price-gouged via the silent incorporation of usurious interest costs into the selling price of everything they buy? Then cut food stamps, or else you're a freedom-hating "socialist."

Millions of people unable to afford basic medical care because of the trillions being wasted on banker bailouts and imperialist wars of aggression? Then cut Medicaid, or else you're a freedom-hating "socialist."

And so on and so forth.

That's the sociopathic Austrian School ideology in a nutshell.

It has nothing to do with "helping" the poor and everything to do with making them pay (via brutal austerity measures) for the crimes of the super-rich.

It has nothing to do with "ending" tyranny and everything to do with privatizing it and calling it "liberty."

But then Austrian School icons Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek were both financed out of obscurity by the Rockefellers, so is that really such a surprise?

"People who complain about how wealth and income redistribution is something awful -- 'communism' or what-have-you -- don't seem to mind when that redistribution is going up; they only seem to object when it goes down."

-- Peter van Buren, The Alex Jones Show, 2nd Hour, May 08, 2014


"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a Communist."

-- Dom Hélder Câmara


"There are those in every land who would label as Communist every threat to their privilege. But may I say to you, as I have seen on my travels in all sections of the world, reform is not communism. And the denial of freedom, in whatever name, only strengthens the very communism it claims to oppose."

-- Robert F. Kennedy


http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=232841.0 (Rothschild and Rockefeller interests created the Libertarian-Communist dialectic)
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2015, 05:46:39 PM »
Between the money spent on  the wars, bailouts,  etc. this would not  be a topic, no one USA would be in trouble.
 For muck sake our N.D. is about 19 trillion $ and they lay blame on the poor, WTM.
 Amazon, your posts and the reply's were great!!!
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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2015, 05:58:09 PM »
Webster defines “socialism ” as:

    …any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.


"The [socialist] state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else. "
~ Frederic Bastiat

"Can a moral case be made for taking the rightful property of one American and giving it to another to whom it does not belong? I think not. That’s why socialism is evil. It uses evil means (coercion) to achieve what are seen as good ends (helping people). We might also note that an act that is inherently evil does not become moral simply because there’s a majority consensus."
~ Walter Williams


This is exactly where we are heading:

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The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.
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Re: Foodstamp program (SNAP) suspended until further notice
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2015, 06:03:25 PM »
... Individualism and self-sufficiency is what made America great. 

That and free land everywhere  (and a willingness to kill or be killed by the local natives) without royalty payments going to England or tithe money going to rome .... 
Now we are the natives ... Has the New world become the Old World?



French Reign of Terror - there was a reason for it ...


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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 06:17:23 PM »
Has the New world become the Old World?

Apparently history repeating itself.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2015, 06:54:50 PM »
Has the New world become the Old World?

Apparently history repeating itself.

To our peril, unfortunately.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2015, 11:18:04 PM »
I mention Telsa as a reference as to how  the ruling succeeded in  keeping the masses  poor, debt and controlled.

Please show me a country whose people don't aspire to making a better life, putting buck in their pocket etc. No matter what nation I have been in folks want to get ahead, is that capitolism.
 Is freedom capitolism,  by defintion:an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by ...
I mention the following to express the extermes the powers have gone to to supress mankind and maintain control. 

 I put a ? mark on monoplys under any corporate name, there is a line, competition nurtures development and free enterpirse, supercorps frown on competition.
JP Moragan " If WE ( elites, can put a meter on it we don't want it" The clear opposite of Nikoli's freeing mankind from dirtbag elites control.
 A kid selling lemonade is he a capitolist simply becasue he wants to make a few bucks.
 OFF a tad..Telsa didn't give a twit about money, he did care about the assisting mankind. Therfore his patents were hijacked and he died pennyless. A genious on a leash binded by unsrupulous capitolists (elites),  Im 'sure these bloodsukers used  a great deal of his patents for their own gains, the gov used them as well, and those that threatened the liberation of mass controll (energy)were classified.
  I like money,( safety net ) so what.As  I sincerly attempted to make a living that was productive but no abusive. It was long road, ridicule by many, long hours, hope-faith, and determintion.
Some people do need a help, the simply can't make it., I thank God I was at one time capable of  helping those peols in a bad way  , for 7 years and fond memory's / not a dime taken, no profit.
 
 
 


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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2015, 11:35:31 PM »
Tied to Planned Parenthood, how convenient.

USDA Does Not Have The Cash To Keep Food Stamps Running If The Government Shuts Down

by Alan Pyke Sep 23, 2015 12:31pm

Tens of millions of vulnerable Americans would lose their food stamps benefits if Republicans bent on defunding Planned Parenthood force the second government shutdown of the Obama era next week, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) warned on Tuesday.

Unlike the 2013 shutdown when cash reserves allowed Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits to be disbursed as normal, “USDA will not have the funding necessary for SNAP benefits in October and will be forced to stop providing benefits within the first several days of October,” a spokeswoman told the Associated Press. The agency notified state SNAP administrators on Friday that they should not begin the process of doling out October’s food stamps dollars this week as they normally would.

Without a deal, funding for normal government operations will run out at the end of September. In response to the news that a shutdown would cut off food stamps to as many as 45 million people, Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS) issued a statement saying the way to avoid a shutdown is for Democrats to get on board with cutting off federal funding for women’s healthcare. “The best way to ensure SNAP recipients receive needed support is to vote for the [continuing resolution],” Roberts told the Huffington Post. “I’m prepared to do so, and if members are worried about SNAP funding, they should too.”

The funding measure Roberts referenced would zero out federal funds to Planned Parenthood, the national women’s health organization that’s been smeared by pro-life activists as improperly profiting off the sale of aborted fetal tissue. Many of Roberts’ House colleagues have pledged to shut down the government if the group doesn’t have its funding cut off. State lawmakers in some parts of the country have already moved to restrict the group’s ability to provide a wide range of health services to low-income women who depend on Planned Parenthood clinics. In a quarter of all the counties where the group has a presence, the clinics are the only source of affordable contraceptive services for women of little means.

The 2013 government shutdown caused disruptions in a variety of federal services including the job training programs that unemployed people rely on to fulfill the eligibility requirements of SNAP. But the money for food itself was able to continue flowing because the USDA had sufficient cash in reserve to put the appropriate funds on peoples’ cards. That isn’t the case this time, lawmakers briefed by the agency say.

More: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/09/23/3704692/government-shutdown-food-stamps-usda/
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2015, 05:50:12 AM »
The one day probability that food stamps could
get shut off, glitch, not reload on EBT cards is
why I'm never JIT (Just In Time) for anything.
Riots and mobs could break out in grocery stores
and I'll be sitting home, not needing anything
watching it on the local news.   
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2015, 07:27:45 AM »


… the real problem is the Congressional method
of lumping all funding together in these gi-normous
OMNIBUS budgeting bills. So you get these bills
which link crazy, unconnected items like aborting
fetuses and feeding the poverty stricken.

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Let it loose; it will defend itself."

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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2015, 09:03:40 AM »

… the real problem is the Congressional method
of lumping all funding together in these gi-normous
OMNIBUS budgeting bills. So you get these bills
which link crazy, unconnected items like aborting
fetuses and feeding the poverty stricken.

^^^
That. Exactly. This is done on purpose for the drama. Congress knew about this months ago.

People will credit or blame the President with something that Congress is responsible for. And that suits the POS, fat cat, sugar-daddy Congress just fine.

The people have allegedly elected new congressmen to clean up the corruption. I say “allegedly” because the obvious vote fraud has not been dealt with. Neither has the lock of the 2-party (really 1 party) system.

Last time the government shut itself down, nobody cared. They didn't get the willy-nilly-sky-is-falling reaction. It was a breath of fresh air for the people and a tantrum for the executive branch.

So, now they have to set it up to where the commoner feels the pain.

The fascist symbols were prominently displayed during the recent pontification/crying game spectacle.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2015, 09:51:32 PM »
 When was the last time you heard the news media faces rant about the debt and the consequences?
 This will bring on a shi**t storm.
 
 
 

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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2015, 10:31:34 PM »
"YOU SAID TUESDAY WAS SOYLENT GREEN DAY!!!" (Let the riots begin)
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2015, 12:25:15 PM »

… the real problem is...

The real problem is we can shot a cruise missile worth 20 million dollars at a mud hut, paid for with our taxes and let people profit off of it, yet we can't figure out a way to feed and shelter the poor, or give healthcare and basic services to people.

The real problem is we have psychopaths and sociopaths running our government and somehow we think this absolves us of any guilt.

The problem is as long as we are able to pay our rent and the milk, bread and eggs show up on the store shelves every month that everything is just fine.

Oh there are a lot of problems, but we must look inward first, myself included.

Excuse me this morning, my medicine hasn't taken effect, more soma please.
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2015, 12:34:01 PM »
2 Thessalonians 3:10  (KJV)
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2015, 12:48:06 PM »
2 Thessalonians 3:10  (KJV)
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Best yet! +1000
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2015, 12:57:21 PM »
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Let it loose; it will defend itself."

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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2015, 12:59:24 PM »
2 Thessalonians 3:10  (KJV)
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

How is this relevant ?

First :
There are more people needing jobs than there are jobs available, so if every job opening was filled tomorrow there would still be people who could not work.

Second :
A biblical quote regarding people refusing to work is not the same as unable to work, see above.

Third :
If I could think of a group of people who do refuse to work, that would be the idle rich who refuse to work, but are happy to profit from other peoples labour.

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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2015, 01:12:57 PM »
How is this relevant ?


It's relevant because its one of the many boxes people put themselves in in order tohave a perspective for their opinion.

It's relevant because such boxes must be open and up for serious discussion and debate.

It's relevant because such boxes must be smashed in order to get passed the biases we have to attack the real problem.

This is my opinion of course, but I don't think its too far off base.
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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2015, 01:16:51 PM »
How is this relevant ?

First :
There are more people needing jobs than there are jobs available, so if every job opening was filled tomorrow there would still be people who could not work.

Second :
A biblical quote regarding people refusing to work is not the same as unable to work, see above.

Third :
If I could think of a group of people who do refuse to work, that would be the idle rich who refuse to work, but are happy to profit from other peoples labour.

People depend and rely more on government than they do on God.

The agenda is to make us all slaves (even many of the rich who are not part of the elite group) and government to be our savior (not for me).  The welfare/warfare state was created for control, there is nothing benevolent about it.

Those of us that want no part of it, are forced by the barrel of a gun to contribute to the welfare/warfare state which takes away from our own families.
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