IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS

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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2015, 07:15:12 PM »
I don't want to go all Biblical and sound like some crazy southern baptist preacher ranting at a captive audience....

But how else can I respond to the news on this thread ?

How can I not post dire warnings that the Bible has a consistent theme of God destroying such Evil Empires -- OVER NIGHT. Please remember that it is part of the Historical Record that Babylon the Great, was destroyed over night . . . One day it is the Super Power - with Exceptionalisim - and the next it is being sacked, and its people dragged off into slavery. Other Evil Empires also fell over night, and history does repeat itself.

It don't take an Einstein or a prophet of the lord to predict what will happen to America as it continues to lead the world exporting depravity.


Like I said at the beginning, I don't want to sound like some crazy fundy pastor - BUT HOW IS ANY OTHER REACTION POSSIBLE !
My friend: Any other answer is impossible at this point in history.

I do not believe ya have to think The Bible is telling The Truth!

 I just look at the unfolding in our world: and the only Book I read: that Rings a Bell of truth in my time: is The BIBLE!

Mate; you do not sound like a 'crazy fundy pastor'---you sound more like a man concerned on where our world is turning.

...in my humble opinion: 'With out GOD; We are Forever wanting......'
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Common Sense ran away..."

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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2015, 07:28:41 PM »
Wow you guys really knows your stuff.

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« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2015, 07:40:18 PM »
Wow you guys really knows your stuff.
Mate; with out a man like you at the helm: then we all may sink!

...always great info & thanks Sir EG  8)
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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2015, 08:07:33 PM »
I do not believe ya have to think The Bible is telling The Truth!
 I just look at the unfolding in our world: and the only Book I read: that Rings a Bell of truth in my time: is The BIBLE!

This all puzzles me a bit.  Can anyone bring clarity here?

Rupert Murdoch is very involved with Christian Publishing as well as Pornography.
Emperor Constantine was also very involved in the formation of the  Christian Era  .
Rupert Murdoch was very involved with selling us on the Never Ending "Global War on Terror"tm
Emperor Constantine was also very involved in the erasure of the Gnostic Books and belief from history.



http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html
Rense: Ask any young person what their life is like and you will hear much of what Jay Weidner is describing. There was a news story, the average 14-year old watches an average of one and half hours of hard core porn per week. There are current terms that we use which could be ascribed to Archon activity: Zionists, megalomaniacs, but this evil that we’re talking about certainly has been around for a long, long time.
Weidner: It’s highly organized and beyond human and one of my reasons for delving more deeply into the subject, was that I could see that the organization was just too effective and too trans-generational ".


http://www.geezmagazine.org/blogs/entry/rupert-murdochs-big-bible-business
Most people know now that Rupert Murdoch presides over the News Corp media empire, and that he is fighting for his reputation after being forced to sink his scandal-laiden British newspaper News of the World, the most widely read English tabloid in the world. But few people know that Murdoch also owns Zondervan, the world’s largest publisher of Bibles. For 23 years, the News Corp family has included the leading seller of the best-selling book in history.

I know many Christians see the Bible’s publishing stature as validation of their chosen faith, but a savvy entrepreneur could simply see it as a business opportunity. Or perhaps the 80-year-old Murdoch, like any shrewd businessman, wanted diverse investments – a diversity that in his case ranged from a cleavage-saturated tabloid that ran headlines like, “F1 Boss Has Sick Nazi Orgy With 5 Hookers” to a publisher that offers Little Lamb’s Storybook Bible.
The Zondervan advantage
“I want to have the broadest readership possible,” Claiborne says by phone, “I don’t want to be someone who just speaks to the choir.” He says smaller publishers have their advantages but the books he has written for them cost “two or three times” more than what they would if Zondervan published them.

Constantine’s Gift to Christianity
October 26, 2012
On the anniversary of Constantine’s conversion, we should consider why the West seems to be converting back to paganism.
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/1697/constantines_gift_to_christianity.aspx
Leading right up to Constantine’s conversion in 312, Christians periodically suffered the most horrible treatment by the pagan Roman state.

Christians were stripped and flogged with whips, put on the rack, scraped with iron combs used to card wool, and had salt and vinegar poured over their fresh wounds; they were slowly roasted to death over fires individually or thrown on great piles to be burned alive en masse (an entire town in Phrygia—men, women, and children—was set on fire by soldiers); they were strangled or run through with swords; they were tied hand and foot, put into boats, and once pushed out to sea, drowned; they were jailed, and then led into the arena to be torn to pieces by panthers, bears, boars, and bulls; they had their skin torn bit by bit with pottery shards, or they were decapitated; women were stripped and hung upside down for public humiliation, and sometimes believers were hung this way over a fire so as to be choked by the smoke; Christians had their limbs tied to trees that were bent down and then let snap, tearing their legs or arms from their bodies; sharp reeds were driven under fingernails, molten lead was poured down backs, genitals horribly mutilated, eyes gouged out and cauterized with a hot iron, and the list goes on.

I document these very real atrocities in such detail so as to combat any notion of romanticism we might have about martyrdom. Christians then were no more romantic about such hideous treatment at the hands of a pagan state, than were Christians in the 20th century tortured and mowed down by the communist state.

If you think about what these Christians actually endured at the hands of the pagan state, you will realize with what jubilation, what extreme thankfulness to God, what declarations of it all being miraculous, Christians 1,700 years ago greeted the news of Constantine’s conversion.

And I do believe that is precisely the right attitude that Christians today should have in remembering—indeed, celebrating—the conversion of Constantine. Rarely has Divine Providence achieved so much in so short a time.

With Constantine’s favor, the Church began to blossom, and was free to spread out all over the Western, and then Eastern, parts of the Empire, thereby shifting its civilization from pagan to Christian moorings.

This was no small shift—it entailed a vast moral and political transformation that laid the foundation and built the structure of Christian civilization.

To take some poignant examples, the pagan Roman culture happily affirmed contraception, abortion, infanticide, suicide, homosexuality, homosexual marriage, euthanasia, pornography, prostitution, concubinage, divorce, pederasty, and the mass killing of human beings for entertainment in gladiatorial combat. Once the emperors became Christian, both the Church and the Christian imperium engaged in the moral transformation of pagan society, and the Christian moral understanding was incorporated into law in the various imperial codes. And also, quite unlike Rome, both the Church and Christian state began to care for the poor and destitute, the widows and orphans.

What we notice, in the list of evils smiled upon by pagan Rome and rejected by Christendom, is that so many of them have returned today. In many respects—with our contemporary affirmation of contraception, abortion, homosexuality, pornography, and so on—Christians find themselves in a society not very much different from the one in which, prior to Constantine’s conversion, Christians were so severely persecuted.

The beneficial effects of Constantine’s conversion, we might say, are coming undone. We are falling back into a pagan society where Christians are no longer welcome.

So, in this celebration of Constantine’s conversion, we should also pause to reflect more deeply on why we, in Western society, seem to be converting back to paganism.

Now all of this doesn’t mean that Constantine’s conversion was without its ambiguities. If we’re going to celebrate, it must be done soberly, so to speak.

To begin with, imperial sponsorship of Christianity did lead to periods of imperial control of the Church, and in emperors after Constantine, to the corruption of doctrine itself. Here, too, there is ambiguity.

Constantine himself called the famous Council of Nicaea (325), the council from which all Christians have received the Nicene Creed outlining the basics of the Christian faith. Contrary to our notion that everyone in the early Church was singing the same doctrinal tune, the bishops of the third-century Church were themselves split into irreconcilable factions, those who affirmed Christ’s full divinity and those who declared that he was created and hence a creature (the Arians, after the bishop Arius). Scripture itself couldn’t decide the issue because both sides were quoting it to their purposes, and in fact, the canon of the New Testament had yet to be officially decided.

Constantine demanded that the gathered bishops settle the issue (rather than, as a pagan emperor might, simply deciding the issue for himself).

All Christians holding to the Nicene Creed as the fundamental statement of orthodoxy—which really means all Christians, since deviating from the Creed means you’re something else—owe Constantine a debt of gratitude. He made the bishops settle the issue (and they did, on the side of orthodox affirmation of Christ’s full humanity and divinity). Even more amazing, he refrained from doing so himself.

But even though Nicaea turned out well, trouble soon arose, and it was, alas, related to Constantine himself. (Remember, this is a sober, well-informed celebration of Constantine).

To make a short story a bit longer, Constantine did not actually, officially, really become a Christian until very near his dying day. Like so many of the time, he held off on being baptized until the threshold of his departure. Feeling the approach of death, he very piously laid aside the royal purple, took upon himself the humble white robes of the to-be-newborn Christian, and entered the waters of regeneration.

The bishop doing the royal baptism was one Eusebius, an Arian, that is, heretical, bishop.

It would take too long to explain how that came about, but when heretical Arianism infected the imperial household, the nasty result was that heresy became the favored orthodoxy of the emperors after Constantine.

Such is the danger of royal patronage: the Church, and even its doctrine, can be defined by the state.

No doubt, that is why many who rue Constantine’s conversion do not wish to celebrate its 1,700th anniversary. It is a sobering thought, very sobering. The Church must not, cannot, be subordinate to the state. Otherwise, it becomes a mere instrument of politics

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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2015, 06:29:32 PM »
 When Jesus spoke on Earth; over 2000 years ago: I think HIS truth still stands!

...Sexual perversion is a Big-NO-NO in the teachings: from Jesus Christ and HIS BIBLE!

...those who think this is wrong---WELL--ya better read The Bible for yourself...your eternity depends on it...
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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2015, 12:54:00 AM »
Nice Doc.---and in the Book of Isaiah Chapter 44, Verse 28: [and we must remember this is a King from the East!]

"That sayith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shall be built; and to the temple, thy foundation shall be laid."

...in my opinion this verse speaks of the time in antiquity when someone from the outside steps in to Prove GODS Prophecy Correct!  8)

  Iamc2---Do you know how prophetic these words on Cyrus are?  Cyrus was not even born until more than 150 years after Isaiah wrote Isaiah!!!  Isaiah knew Cyrus's name because the Holy Spirit told him to write it down.   That's how we know the Bible is true.  By prophecy.  Every sentence and every word is true.  All of the book of Revelation will come true VERY SOON.
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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2015, 02:11:10 PM »
Excellent comments here.  Also in connection with the book of Revelation is the book of Daniel. He foretold Persia and Greece bringing down Babylon--the book of Daniel has only 11 chapters but they are powerful. They help to understand Revelation. 


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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2015, 09:44:25 PM »
Iamc2---Do you know how prophetic these words on Cyrus are?  Cyrus was not even born until more than 150 years after Isaiah wrote Isaiah!!!  Isaiah knew Cyrus's name because the Holy Spirit told him to write it down.   That's how we know the Bible is true.  By prophecy.  Every sentence and every word is true.  All of the book of Revelation will come true VERY SOON.
COOL Doc: and ya understand that GOD will use anyone HE wants to get HIS program done  ;)

..most folks have little understanding of the Old Testament: and thus are unable to understand the Words of Jesus Christ in the New Testament
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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2015, 09:51:47 PM »
Excellent comments here.  Also in connection with the book of Revelation is the book of Daniel. He foretold Persia and Greece bringing down Babylon--the book of Daniel has only 11 chapters but they are powerful. They help to understand Revelation.
Nice Mate and Daniel Chapter 12:3 & 4 speaks of our time running to and fro; with knowledge increasing!

...and this is true in our life time!

...The Bible is NEVER WRONG!

...if ya think I am wrong: Just look at how fast ya move on your computer keyboard?

...GOD works must faster... ;)
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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2015, 10:38:04 PM »
During time of Jesus there were several groups; Pharisee, Saducees,Zealots, Religious Leaders,etc. As you probably know he did not agree with any of them. Told his 12 apostles not to listen would risk spiritual blindness. If you look back to Zechariah and breaking stick of union was the beginning of various groups in book of Matthew. It is worse today and would Jesus agree with any today? There was battle in 2nd century between Tertillion and Marcion cult regarding biblical text this is not often mentioned although equally important as Constantine in my opinion. Agree we need good understanding of old testament.

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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2015, 04:54:01 AM »
During time of Jesus there were several groups; Pharisee, Saducees,Zealots, Religious Leaders,etc. As you probably know he did not agree with any of them. Told his 12 apostles not to listen would risk spiritual blindness. If you look back to Zechariah and breaking stick of union was the beginning of various groups in book of Matthew. It is worse today and would Jesus agree with any today? There was battle in 2nd century between Tertillion and Marcion cult regarding biblical text this is not often mentioned although equally important as Constantine in my opinion. Agree we need good understanding of old testament.

I agree, and if you look around the world today, you'll see that the Pharisee, Saducees, Zealots are still active - BUT WORKING UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES.

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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2015, 07:18:08 PM »
The sad fact is these perverts somehow work Jesus into their mischief  >:( ...and I believe Jesus is Pissed off!
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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2015, 03:48:51 PM »
Hegelian Dialectic at work here. US patriots either submit to US Gov flavored a$$ lube or join Russia in over throwing our Gov.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russia-unveils-straight-flag-counteract-lgbts-rainbow-symbol-1510117

The ruling United Russia party unveiled a 'straight flag' in the capital Moscow on 8 July, in a bid to counteract the rainbow flag widely used around the world as a symbol of gay pride and LGBT rights.

The Moscow branch of President Vladimir Putin's party announced the official introduction of the flag to mark the country's annual Day of Family, Love and Fidelity. The group claims the flag is intended to honour the nuclear family and traditional Russian values.

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Re: Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2015, 12:47:50 PM »
Brother Nathanael
July 13, 2015 @ 9:39 pm
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The Church In Same-Sex America
The Church mourns while the Synagogue rejoices.
Thirteen Jewish Groups including the American Jewish Committee and the Anti Defamation League applauded the Supreme Court for forcing same-sex pseudo-marriages down our throats.
From start to finish, it was Jewry pushing it through.
Now, why are Jews celebrating and Orthodox Christians mourning?
Because the core of stable civilization is rooted in the natural family of father-mother-children.
Destroy the family and a Christian acculturation of society springing from the family is deprived of the soil from which it springs.
Jewish lesbian, Masha Gessen, leads the attack.
[Clip: “I um, I agree. It’s a no brainer that we should have the right to marry. But I also think equally that it’s a no brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.
So uh [applause] that the institution of marriage is going to change and it should change.
I have three kids who have five parents more or less, uh, [chuckles] and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally.
I don’t see why we should choose two of those parents and make them into a sanctioned couple.”]
The Gentile family is disintegrating.
Yet as much as Gessen wants to destroy marriage, Jewish families thrive.
It’s in the blood.
Jews see themselves as a race. And its perpetuity, solidarity, and influence is dependent on the Jewish family. That will never go away. It’s stronger than ever.
Where does this leave the Orthodox Church?
It has no effect on Her polity and practice.
Marriage is a sacrament by which a male and female are blessed by the priest to pursue marriage as a path of salvation through sacrifice to one another, to their children, and service to the Church.
This union of male and female is a sacred image.
For the Scriptures teach that Christ is the head of the Church just as a man is the head of the wife.
The distinction of sex remains intact regardless of Jewish redefinitions of gender roles for Gentile consumption.
Jenner’s just a pawn. Once he’s played out he’ll be thrown to the transgender trash heap.
The Church has lived through Roman paganism, now it must live through Babylon.
Will Gessen and friends revoke the Church’s tax-exempt status for not performing same-sex civil unions? That’s coming.
Will the Church be criminalized as an enemy of the state?
That’s coming too. For sodomy, which the Church opposes, has been enshrined into law.
Our martyrdom has only just begun.
But the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.
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July 13, 2015 @ 9:40 pm
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Re: IT BEGINS: PEDOPHILES CALL FOR SAME RIGHTS AS HOMOSEXUALS
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2015, 08:08:56 AM »
BUMP.
"If this is the only way, we have no choice but to proceed. What is there to vacillate about?"