The Pentagon's Weapons of Mass Enslavement

[Freeski]

Really? And you believe them all?So movies and other made up stuff is your source?
 A little condescending perhaps in light of you're inability to refute anything with credible sources?Really? What world do I have?

Please, give me your definition of a Credible Source? (And condescension goes both ways)

[Bh]

I rest my case.

Coyote? Care to comment?

[JTCoyoté]

I rest my case.

Coyote? Care to comment?

You have no case to rest, Bh...

The two "documentary films" you mentioned, are both shill controlled opposition diatribes designed to be easily refuted and make small minded people, think that they have debunked the great conspiracists... both of the examples you cite contain very little in the way of scientifically provable fact, and a lot of conjecture on the part of the two men who "made" the films... Both of whom, made millions, and received awards and accolades from the establishment for their "effort"... and both of these films, in truth are pure bullshit... I've watched them both.

The two films that Freeski mentioned, are both excellent documentaries... with extended bibliographies... one of them with a bibliography so vast that it requires its own website. These two films received no accolades... because the filmmakers are not invested in the controlled opposition, left/right false paradigm, political game... both of these films are political studies in history to the present day... all backed up with irrefutable documented facts.

So your comment about "movies and other made-up stuff", was quite unfair since most of the documentary films discussed in these forums, had better have a paper trail of provable, documented fact, or they get panned quickly...

Freeski answered your questions...and successfully steered around your more blatant straw questions, (...what world do I have...? Honestly Bh...) and he qualified each one of his answers... then he asked you a question, which you have yet to answer... one that gets to the crux of the debate between you two...

What do you consider a credible source?

I eagerly await your answer.

Oh and I have a question... do you believe everything that Rush, O'Reilly, Bortz, Hannity, and Coulter have to say... every word..?

The amount of historical research that goes on among the posters on these pages, as well as the footnotes that are left in the form of documented research material, titles, and links here... are legion.

So tell us sir knight... what do you consider credible sources.

JTCoyoté

"A government that is big enough to give you all you want
is big enough to take it all away."
~Barry Goldwater

[Bh]

What do you consider a credible source?

do you believe everything that Rush, O'Reilly, Bortz, Hannity, and Coulter have to say... every word..?

Rush is documented right 98.9% of the time. O'Reilly is usually a joke, Bortz, I don't catch much but he seems fair, Hannity is a broken record, but he's accurate, Coulter is just funny, in fact I'd love to ask her what she thinks about folks who think contrails are chemtrails, I'm sure it would be hilarious.
Let's see, of the top of my head, Victor Davis Hanson, JR Dunn, Charles Krauthhammer, Thomas Sowell, Rick Moran for starters. There's too many to make a list.

[chris jones]

Scientists, physicists, engineers.

Professionals. men and woman who have been to the finest universities in this nation.
Those who have the capabilities to create methods of assisting the human race rather than destroying it.

Adolf had his minions of scientists also, but most were slaves to his regime.

Ours are not, they are bought, paid for, and given clearances that allows them privileges far above that of the peon citizenry.

Its ironic, we pay the taxes to support these stadistic freaks inventing weapons of mind control, mob control and death.

I know, Agent orange was used in Nam to destroy highly foliated areas, what they did know, though did not make the public aware of was the result of this toxic chemical on human beings.
Do you believe these so called human beings cared about the peons, the soldiers effected, their lives, their lifetime illnesses, their children born diseased.
Not one twit brothers, they sprayed us without a thought of the destruction, WHY, their cash registers were ringing.

My life has been shortened by these effects, and illnesses have begun that will lead to more. I did not die in Nam, I am from the effects of this money making schemes as are thousands of others, here and in Vietnam.
Hey if you have a conscience, you don't get rich quick. Screw the pissants, as a pol once said keep the masses in their breeding ground the worms they are.

I sincerely wish, the gov, would grow testicles, and Demand the Justice Dept. to end this insanity, arrest the perpetrators, confiscate our money from their coffers and their property and incarcerate these sadistic greedy freaks.
They are on a par with Mengel, drug traffickers of narcotics, and our Mr. Bush.
Good VS evil.. Old saying but valid.


 

[Godfather77]

Any Law Enforcement officers who think they will be safe as part of the system are in denial.  These high tech weapons are in fact designed to replace the majority of you and are desigend with only one purpose in mind --- control.
 
Stop – or I’ll use the pain ray
22nd June 2008
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/gadgets_and_gaming/article4176537.ece

The days of simply reading the riot act to an angry crowd are long gone. The Home Office has been investigating the use of high-tech pain rays against mobs as an alternative to the good old water cannon, according to a report by its Scientific Development Branch due to be published next month.

The so-called active denial system (ADS) projects microwave-like radiation for distances of more than 500 yards, creating an excruciating, full-body burning sensation in anyone caught in its beam. The millimetre-wave rays penetrate skin to a depth of about 1/64in but cause no permanent damage, according to Raytheon, the system’s US-based maker. Prototypes of the weapon, called Silent Guardian, weighed about three tons and were mounted on trucks.

“Directed energy systems such as the ADS have seen major advances over the past few years and are likely to continue to do so in the coming years,” the Home Office said. Although the report found “no options that would currently be considered”, it said that might well change in the future. “We’re not saying that the ADS is never going to be used. We’re not going to write it off.”

The Scientific Development Branch, based in Sandridge in Hertfordshire, has been looking at a portable version of the ADS being developed by Raytheon for the US National Institute of Justice – which sounds suspiciously like something from Judge Dredd. The backpack-sized unit is being designed for American police. A working prototype has already been delivered.

The first customer for the full-size active denial system is the US Air Force, which recently published a medical report from Penn State University on the weapon’s effects, in effect clearing it for use in the field. After more than 10,000 test firings on human volunteers, 99% of those exposed to the pain ray agreed that it was an effective deterrent, and only a handful suffered minor blisters. The Human Effects Advisory Panel, an independent body of doctors and physicists, concluded: “The ADS is a nonlethal weapon that has a high probability of effectiveness with a low probability of injury.”

One test the system has not yet passed is that of public acceptability. The idea of firing energy beams at people is likely to meet with widespread concern and this is probably the reason it has not yet been deployed to disperse antiwar protesters.

There is also the danger that it could be misused. The weapon is designed to be fired in short bursts of between one and six seconds, at ranges of several hundred yards. When a serviceman was accidentally exposed to a high-power beam at close range, he received second-degree burns requiring skin grafts.

Active denial isn’t the only new technology being considered by UK authorities. The Taser is already in widespread use, and the Association of Chief Police Officers is investigating weapons that utilise laser and kinetic technologies, although it is not clear yet when such devices will be piloted on our streets.

Laser weapons, also called dazzlers, are handheld devices that can temporarily blind criminals, while kinetic technologies include bean-bag rounds, water cannons and even sponge grenades filled with powdered irritant chemicals.

If you think the British bobby is unlikely to swap his truncheon for a pain ray, laser gun or exploding sponge, think again. Dixon of Dock Green, make way for Robocop.

Further links on the subject:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/dec/13/research.themilitary
http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech/weapons/dn9979-top-10-weapons-of-the-future-.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/Non-Lethal-Weapons23may02.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9554

[AlexStratus]

I know what big fans you all are of Popular Mechanics, but they did not build this, they just wrote about it.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4252643.html

Does it not look just like a coffin ... on wheels?

[Brocke]

Full-body airport scanner "nonsense?"
Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:25pm EDT

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany will not participate in EU proposals for airports to use full-body scanner security checks, which have raised privacy issues, its interior ministry said Friday.

"I can tell you in all clarity that we will not take part in this nonsense," a spokeswoman for the interior ministry told a regular news conference.

The executive European Commission proposed last month to add body scanners to a list of security measures that can be used at airports in the 27-country bloc.

EU lawmakers criticized the scanners in a resolution on Thursday, saying they were equivalent to "a virtual strip search" and raised serious human rights concerns. The lawmakers called for a detailed study of the technology before it is used.

The Commission says a number of EU states including the Netherlands already use body scanners and the EU executive wanted to harmonize conditions in which they can be operated.

The scanners do not exist at German airports and have sparked vivid criticism by politicians across the political spectrum.

(Reporting by Kerstin Gehmlich; Editing by Matthew Jones)

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE49N5SW20081024?feedType=nl&feedName=usoddlyenough

[lord edward coke]

I know what big fans you all are of Popular Mechanics, but they did not build this, they just wrote about it.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4252643.html

Does it not look just like a coffin ... on wheels?

i want one.

[iks83]

want one too... although it looks rendered on that photo... and why does it say tireless... i count 6 of em ¬_¬

[Freeski]

I know what big fans you all are of Popular Mechanics, but they did not build this, they just wrote about it.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4252643.html

Does it not look just like a coffin ... on wheels?

With eyeballs too!

[backeyjakic]

Vampire has a tendency motivating players to make themselves the ultimate weapon. Beastial brawl IS really cool, but it is also pretty nice to look through weapons in a fantasy roleplaying supplement and dream. I guess thosegames are more combat oriented, but I do believe that the choice of weapon tells a lot of the character in a fantasy setting - much more so than in WoD. Or perhaps everyone thinks its cheesy to run around with some kind of penis when you have fangs.. you only need so many similes to penetration