The proof that Hani Hanjour couldn't fly flt 77 into the pentagon. - These are the facts--The perps want you to focus on flyovers, missiles, no planes and other ridickulas DisInfo tactics. Anything but the proof of Remote control-which explains not just this flight--but all of them.
The flightpath. http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/docs/aa77_final_maneuver.png
Investigators are particularly impressed with the pilot who slammed into the Pentagon and, just before impact, performed tightly banked 270-degree turn at low altitude with almost military precision." -Detroit News (9/13/01
"Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes.""The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed."
As a former pilot, the President was struck by the apparent sophistication
of the operation and some of the piloting, especially Hanjour's high-speed dive into the Pentagon
The popular mechanics article debunking 9/11 conspiracies talks of the proof that a passenger jet hit the pentagon and exposes the problem of a "missile" hitting the pentagon. This is precisely why this disInfo has been deliberately brought into the truth movement. You wont see them discussing the piloting skills of Hani Hanjour and how the strike on the pentagon was done with amazing precision, that could only be done with incredible piloting skills
When forced to address the issue Jim Meigs says this....
Q: First of all, one of the key ones is that the pilots simply did not have the skills to fly, one of the key points is that Hani Hanjour who supposedly flew the plane that went into the Pentagon was simply too lousy a pilot to do it, he could barely fly.....How do you respond to the Hani Hanjour criticism?
Meigs: This is a widespread thought, that the pilots just weren't qualified to fly these planes. The fact is that what they did that day wasn't particularly hard.....they flew them into the largest buildings in the city that were their destination. It wasn't a particularly challenging assignment as a pilot....They weren't very good pilots, their flying was sloppy, but it was good enough for what they set out to do that day.
Q: In particular, though, the Pentagon pilot, the flight that hit the Pentagon, is in dispute, simply because of that 330-degree turn that that pilot would have to make, then he would have to go down 7,000 feet in a matter of seconds, and then skim over the lawn without making a mark, and then essentially hit the Pentagon.
Meigs: The pilot who hit the Pentagon definitely made some pretty wild maneuvers, which is a sign of his inexperience. He wasn't a great pilot. A more experienced pilot would line that right up much more accurately, not have to make all these kind of wild maneuvers. But he was good enough, he did hit the Pentagon, and the plane was recovered......so if you're going to say that he wasn't flying the plane, then who was?
So meigs wants you to believe that this was a wild ride that didn't make any sense, and Hanjour was lucky? The truth is, it was the maneuvers that enabled the plane to hit the first floor of the pentagon just refurbished and was sparsly populated. It was a precision hit with pinpoint accuracy.
Meigs does two things.
1. pretends it wasn't an incredible display of flying skills. and
2. Refuses to go into how impossible it was for Hanjour to do this. He would prefer to discuss how silly it is for a missile to hit
. I wont give him that luxury
. I have already shown, he is misleading you by claiming it was a sloppy job, and he wont discuss just how bad of a Pilot Hani was. I will, and I will answer Meigs question of if he wasn't flying the plane who was?
Who was Hani Hanjour?
Susan Khalil said she recognized Hanjour in photos the FBI recently showed her and recalled him as "painfully shy" with "really poor hygiene" when he lived with her family for two months in 1996.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52408,00.html
Khalil was a friend of the family and Hani lived at her house for a time in 1996. He didn't like to bathe or brush his teeth. He stunk, and never said much or did anything but stay in his room read the koran and talk to Allah.
He kept to himself, managing to melt unnoticed into the sprawling suburban neighborhoods here. And he was so polite and timid that when he arrived from his native Saudi Arabia without any toiletries, he did not even ask his hosts for a spare toothbrush.http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F03EFDF153BF93BA2575AC0A9679C8B63
He was a man with a purposefully itinerant American experience who changed apartments frequently, lived in different cities and sometimes shuttled between the United States and Saudi Arabia.
''He didn't want to impose on us to get him a toothbrush,'' she said. ''So after a couple of weeks, I remember asking my husband, Do you know if he brushed his teeth?''
Mr. Hanjour, a small and slender man, led a very lonely existence for that month, staying mostly in his room and praying.http://books.google.com/books?id=HmJUf_f26Q8C&pg=PA235&lpg=PA235&dq=%22Hani+Saleh+Hassan+Hanjour%22&source=web&ots=kMr6zg2Xg3&sig=AWj4qwpMzONiaDn9VvpZz-iL5h8&hl=en
In 1996 he was still basically a loser an idiot who could not fly a plane.....
In March 1996, Mr. Hanjour arrived in Florida, after his older brother telephoned the Khalils and asked if they could put him up
From September to November 1996, he took classes at the CRM Airline Training Center in Scottsdale. But he was a lackadaisical student who often cut class and never displayed the passion so common among budding commercial airline pilots, said Paul V. Blair, the center's controller.
Mr. Hanjour spent $4,749 for his instruction, but did not receive a private pilot's certificate. He returned in December 1997, only to leave again after a month
T. Gerald Chilton Jr., a corporate officer for CRM Airline Training Center in Scottsdale, Ariz., said a Hani Hanjoor received pilot instruction there for three months in 1996 and in December 1997. Hanjoor put down a $100 deposit toward additional training in 1997, but attended no other classes, Chilton said.
"We have notified the FBI of this and turned over all our records," Chilton said.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/terror/response/1048799.html
Mr. Hanjour later moved to a small studio apartment in Mesa, and in 1999, according to Federal Aviation Administration records, he finally received his pilot's license
Even so, as recently as last month, Mr. Hanjour still seemed to lack proficiency at flying
, said a flight instructor in the Washington suburb of Bowie, Md. Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the school, said Mr. Hanjour showed up in Washington asking to rent a single-engine plane. But he was told that he had to prove his skills before being allowed to do so.
Mr. Bernard said Mr. Hanjour made three flights with two different instructors but was unable to prove that he had the necessary skills
Mr. Hanjour spoke broken English, paid with cash and made no unusual statements. He listed his local address as a hotel in nearby Laurel, Md. And while his behavior was mosly unremarkable, Mr. Hanjour looked dejected when told that he would not be allowed to fly and left without saying a word.http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F03EFDF153BF93BA2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
OK, so how did he get a pilots license in 1999?
Published reports said Hanjour obtained his pilot's license in April of 1999
, but it expired six months later because he did not complete a required medical examhttp://www.higherpraise.com/News2.htm
Agents have questioned and administered a lie detector test to one of Hanjour's instructors in Arizona who was an Arab American
and had signed off on Hanjour's flight instruction credentials before he got his pilot's license.
That instructor, who also is a pilot for a U.S. airline, told AP that he told authorities that Hanjour was "a very average pilot, maybe struggling a little bit." The instructor added, "Maybe his English wasn't very good."
The instructor said he has passed an FBI polygraph exam and is not under investigationhttp://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,52408,00.html
FAA records show that Hani Saleh Hanjoor [sic] was certified as an "Airplane Multi-Engine Land/Commercial Pilot" on April 15, 1999, by Daryl Strong
, a designated pilot examiner in Tempe, Ariz. It was the last of three certifications Mr. Hanjour obtained from private examiners.
Daryl Strong doesn't sound like an arab name to me.
Mr. Strong, 71, said his flight logs confirm that he conducted a check ride with Mr. Hanjour in 1999 in a twin-engine Piper Apache but that he remembers nothing remarkable about him.
Mr. Strong, who has more than 50 years of flying experience, much of it as a commercial crop duster, said that until recently, he conducted about 200 such check rides each year, at $200 per flight.
Mr. Hanjour was "just a number to me,"
Mr. Strong said. For his earlier commercial instrument rating, Mr. Hanjour was checked out by another designated pilot examiner, Donald S. Judd of Scottsdale, Ariz. Mr. Judd remembers Mr. Hanjour as a well-trained pilot with 75 hours of instrument training, nearly twice the requisite 40 hours. He also recalls that he was proficient in English.
Proficiency in English is required for pilot licensing in the United States. Pilots and aviation instructors "must be able to read, write and speak the English language," according to a 1997 FAA advisory. "If the applicant cannot meet these requirements of English fluency, an airman certificate cannot be issued."
The people Hani Hanjour went to to get "a pilots license" were contracted out by the FAA....Hani never had to see an actual member of the FAA to get his license
, and he conveniently found some people in the system who give out the license if you give them the money..i.e Strong and Judd....hence.."just a number to me," Strong said. Someone is paying for his fees and getting him to people who easily hand out the licences.
But some FAA inspectors say the granting of multiple licenses to Mr. Hanjour illustrates the risks associated with the FAA's heavy reliance on designated pilot examiners - free-lance contractors who now issue most student, private, commercial and airline transport pilots' licenses.
Part of the accountability problem, say critics, is the way designees are paid: They receive an examination fee directly from the applicant. The more check rides they conduct, the more they get paid. Some designees conduct as many as 600 check rides per year at $200 to $300 per flight.
In a recent case, the FAA declined to renew the designation of one high-volume pilot examiner in Southern California after concluding that his testing methods were deficient. The examiner retained an attorney and applied to the FAA for reinstatement. After being "retrained" by the agency's National Examiner Board and evaluated by FAA field officials, some FAA inspectors said, he was allowed back into the program, much to their dismay.
Mr. Cusimano of the FAA said the agency "will not hesitate one bit" to remove a substandard designee from the program or allow the designee's authorization to lapse. However, he said he was unsure how many designees had been dismissed in recent years because the information is not kept in a central location.
The man suspected of flying a plane into the Pentagon on Sept. 11 obtained three federal flight licenses from private contractors working for the Federal Aviation Administration, an agency spokesman confirmed Thursday.
The certification from the private contractors
enabled Hanjour to take a class in how to fly passenger jets at an Arizona flight school, the newspaper reported. Hanjour failed the flight training class.http://govexec.com/dailyfed/0602/061302m1.htm
So he has licenses but as we go into 2000 he still can't fly a plane......
In the spring of 2000, Hanjour had asked to enroll in the CRM Airline Training Center in Scottsdale, Ariz., for advanced training, said the center's attorney, Gerald Chilton Jr. Hanjour had attended the school for three months in late 1996 and again in December 1997 but never finished coursework for a license to fly a single-engine aircraft, Chilton said.
When Hanjour reapplied to the center last year, "We declined to provide training to him because we didn't think he was a good enough student when he was there in 1996 and 1997," Chilton said.http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Then we enter 2001 and Hani Hanjour is still taking lessons but this time the school he goes to is stunned to see he was issued a license in 1999 and insist that the FAA investigate this, as guess what? He still can't fly a plane.
Enter the FAA and John Anthony. The FAA gives two stories...one is that their representative just happens to be sitting in the same class as hani and it's a coincidence...but then they also admit they were contacted by the school to send someone to check out Hani. They also claim that Hani speaks good English...in other words...the FAA is lieing....
The operations manager for the now-defunct JetTech flight school in Phoenix said she called the FAA inspector that oversaw her school three times in January and February 2001 to express her concerns about Hanjour.
"I couldn't believe he had a commercial license of any kind with the skills that he had," said Peggy Chevrette, the JetTech manager. She also has been interviewed by the FBI.
The FAA official "did observe Hani's limited knowledge of flying" and "did check his flight credentials. He did tell us they were valid, so he did follow up on our concern," she said. Hanjour did not finish his studies at JetTech and left the school.
FAA officials confirm their inspector, John Anthony, was contacted by Pan Am in January and February about Hanjour and, at the request of the school, checked Hanjour's commercial pilot's license to ensure it was validhttp://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,52408,00.html
The FAA's Brown said Anthony was taking some of his own training at JetTech in January 2001 and coincidentally sat in the same classroom with Hanjour
for one course. But she said Anthony didn't note
any major language problems.
``The thing that really concerned me was that John had a conversation in the hallway with Hani and realized what his skills were at that point and his ability to speak English,'' Chevrette said.
Chevrette said she was surprised when the FAA official suggested the school might consider getting a translator to help Hanjour.
``He offered a translator,'' Chevrette said. ``Of course, I brought up the fact that went against the rules that require a pilot to be able to write and speak English fluently before they even get their license.'' There was no answer this week at Anthony's home phone and FAA officials said he was out of town and unavailable to be interviewed.
But Brown, the FAA spokeswoman, said Anthony did not
observe any serious language problems and did not suggest a translator for Hanjour.
Chevrette said she contacted Anthony twice more when Hanjour began ground training for Boeing 737 jetliners and it became clear he didn't have the skills for the commercial pilot's license.
``I don't truly believe he should have had it and I questioned that. I questioned that all along,'' she said.
FAA inspector John Anthony was sent to observe the Saudi citizen and review his records but found no compelling reason to revoke his certificates, according to FAA employees familiar with the review. Repeated attempts to contact Mr. Anthony were unsuccessful.
"There should have been a stop right then and there," said Michael Gonzales, an FAA inspector speaking as president of the PASS chapter in Scottsdale. He said Mr. Hanjour should have been re-examined as a commercial pilot, as required by federal law.
Mr. Hanjour ultimately failed the 737 training class
, said Marilyn Ladner, a vice president with JetTech's parent company, Pan Am International Flight Academy in Miami.
"He did not have the flying skills to match the [commercial] license already in hand," Ms. Ladner said. "He was worse than what we would call just being a little bit rusty."
The ease with which Mr. Hanjour passed through the certification system contrasts sharply with the experience of another Pan Am International flight student, Zacarias Moussaoui. Mr. Moussaoui - now on trial as the so-called "20th hijacker" - showed up for Boeing 747 training in Minneapolis last August holding only a student pilot certificate.
This was a "major red flag" that prompted school officials to report Mr. Moussaoui to the FBI, Ms. Ladner said. Had Mr. Hanjour appeared at JetTech in Phoenix with similarly weak credentials, she said, "He would have stood out."
Mr. Hanjour, who investigators contend piloted the airliner that crashed into the Pentagon, was reported to the aviation agency in February 2001 after instructors at his flight school in Phoenix had found his piloting skills so shoddy and his grasp of English so inadequate that they questioned whether his pilot's license was genuine.
''The staff thought he was a very nice guy, but they didn't think his English was up to level
,'' said Marilyn Ladner, a vice president at the Pan Am International Flight Academy, which operated the center in Phoenix. Ms. Ladner said that the F.A.A. examined Mr. Hanjour's credentials and found them legitimate and that an inspector, by coincidence
, attended a class with Mr. Hanjour. The inspector also offered to find an interpreter to help Mr. Hanjour, she said.
''He ended up observing Hani in class,'' Ms. Ladner added, ''though that was not his original reason for being there.''
Ms. Ladner said the Phoenix staff never suspected that Mr. Hanjour was a hijacker but feared that his skills were so weak that he could pose a safety hazard if he flew a commercial airliner.
''There was no suspicion as far as evildoing,'' Ms. Ladner said. ''It was more of a very typical instructional concern that 'you really shouldn't be in the air.' '' But he was a poor student.
On one written problem that usually takes 20 minutes to complete, Mr. Hanjour took three hours, the former employee said, and he answered incorrectly
Ultimately, administrators at the school told Mr. Hanjour that he would not qualify
for the advanced certificate. But the ex-employee said Mr. Hanjour continued to pay to train on a simulator for Boeing 737
jets. ''He didn't care about the fact that he couldn't get through the course,'' the ex-employee said.
Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot.
''I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon,'' the former employee said. ''He could not fly at all.'' http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E0DC1E31F937A35756C0A9649C8B63
The instructors at the school and the FAA are in direct disagreement
about Hani and his ability to speak English, the FAA representative John Anthony also suggested they do something illage, and then he has ran away, and reporters are not able to talk to him....
The FAA's Brown said Anthony was taking some of his own training at JetTech in January 2001 and coincidentally sat in the same classroom with Hanjour for one course. But she said Anthony didn't note any major language problems.
"The thing that really concerned me was that John had a conversation in the hallway with Hani and realized what his skills were at that point and his ability to speak English," Chevrette said.
Chevrette said she was surprised when the FAA official suggested the school might consider getting a translator to help Hanjour.
"He offered a translator," Chevrette said. "Of course, I brought up the fact that went against the rules that require a pilot to be able to write and speak English fluently before they even get their license."
There was no answer this week at Anthony's home phone and FAA officials said he was out of town and unavailable to be interviewed. But Brown, the FAA spokeswoman, said Anthony did not observe any serious language problems and did not suggest a translator for Hanjour.
Chevrette said she contacted Anthony twice more when Hanjour began ground training for Boeing 737 jetliners and it became clear he didn't have the skills for the commercial pilot's license. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52408,00.htmlAs you can see Hani didn't even pretend to train on a 757 the type that flew into the pentagon. And Meigs--your answer is remote control, and not just on this flight, but all of them. The perps want you to ignore all this and make up your own scenarios for the pentagon. I am not going along with their plans, maybe you shouldn't either.