U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia - ( and that's Official )

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Classified Pentagon Exercises Reveal U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia
"It would take everything we had"




Paul Joseph Watson
August 14, 2015
http://www.infowars.com/classified-pentagon-exercises-reveal-u-s-would-struggle-to-win-war-with-russia/

The Pentagon has been running a series of exercises throughout the summer based on a hypothetical ground war with Russia which reveal that the U.S. would struggle to defeat Moscow.

Two defense officials who refused to be named told the Daily Beast that Washington is not ready for a sustained conflict.

“Could we probably beat the Russians today [in a sustained battle]? Sure, but it would take everything we had,” one defense official said. “What we are saying is that we are not as ready as we want to be.”

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have depleted the U.S. Army’s ability to maintain a significant troop presence, the exercises revealed. There would also be little time to sufficiently train airmen for the conflict.

    “Against an adversary like Russia, we can’t take the kind of air dominance we’ve had in conflicts since 9/11 for granted,” a second defense official explained. “Any conflict of significant magnitude against an adversary like Russia means we’d need to commit airmen and resources that are now operating in other parts of the world at a rate that minimizes their ability to train for that kind of fight.”

The revelation of the exercises follows a warning by a prominent think tank that the scale of wargame exercises currently being conducted by both NATO and Russia clearly suggests that conflict is on the horizon.

“Russia is preparing for a conflict with NATO, and NATO is preparing for a possible confrontation with Russia,” said Ian Kearns, director of the London-based European Leadership Network.

The fact that the Pentagon is even thinking about a hypothetical war with another superpower is concerning enough, but the revelation that such a conflict would potentially be unwinnable makes it more likely that the U.S. and NATO would choose a different option for toppling Putin – contriving a color revolution in Moscow.

Last month, Russian Parliament member Yevgeny Fedorov went public to reveal a plot on behalf of the US State Department to contrive a staged Kiev-style revolution that would force Putin to step down and lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation within two years.

Fedorov asserts that Russian oligarchs have been paid off to facilitate this coup, which will involve hundreds of thousands of people flooding the streets of Moscow to start a violent rebellion against Putin after a further collapse in the Russian economy causes food prices to soar.

Watch the video below for further information on how this color revolution could unfold.

Video by Watson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA53EKYyMJM

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Re: U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia - ( and that's Official )
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 09:46:30 AM »
Amercia could easily loose a war against Russia

The Russian Military is on paper no contest for America, but that is not the complete picture. A War is more than just a contest of high spec kit, its stratergy, politics, and the war is non multiple fronts. In this high tech world, America has a track record of loosing wars to inferior enemies.

In the article it discussed Aircraft, but during a sustained War America would find it extremely difficult to replace lost aircraft, because these aircraft have been built to enrich the military industrial complex - so they violated basic common sense rules. America's high tech aircraft rely on imported components and strategic metals from abroad . . . America can build as many aircraft as Bejing and Moscow allow, and in a war situation . . . .

Am I playing devil's advocate ?
Sure.
But its not exactly hard work.

America lost to the Viet Cong, and the blamed the Media - as if the Press went around murdering American Troops. Nope, they lost because they used appalling stupid tactics, and they have been repeating the same stupid tactics. This stupidity coupled with hubris, could easily lead to Russia defeating America in an armed conflict.

The american military laughed at the Russians when they repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Afghanistan, but who got the last laugh ?
The Taliban and ISIS.

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Re: U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia - ( and that's Official )
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 10:06:18 AM »
Amercia could easily loose a war against Russia

The Russian Military is on paper no contest for America, but that is not the complete picture. A War is more than just a contest of high spec kit, its stratergy, politics, and the war is non multiple fronts. In this high tech world, America has a track record of loosing wars to inferior enemies.

In the article it discussed Aircraft, but during a sustained War America would find it extremely difficult to replace lost aircraft, because these aircraft have been built to enrich the military industrial complex - so they violated basic common sense rules. America's high tech aircraft rely on imported components and strategic metals from abroad . . . America can build as many aircraft as Bejing and Moscow allow, and in a war situation . . . .

Am I playing devil's advocate ?
Sure.
But its not exactly hard work.

America lost to the Viet Cong, and the blamed the Media - as if the Press went around murdering American Troops. Nope, they lost because they used appalling stupid tactics, and they have been repeating the same stupid tactics. This stupidity coupled with hubris, could easily lead to Russia defeating America in an armed conflict.

The american military laughed at the Russians when they repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Afghanistan, but who got the last laugh ?
The Taliban and ISIS.

But someone from NWO will ask you "last laugh? You think we can`t manipulate Talibans and ISIS for our goals and interests ?"

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Re: U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia - ( and that's Official )
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 02:49:29 PM »
Thought I was daft saying America could possibly loose a War with Russia ?
Thought I pulled my ideas out of thin air ?


F-35 slammed as ‘inferior’ to older American & foreign fighters
Mig-29 and the Su-27 better than F-35, according to report
http://www.infowars.com/f-35-slammed-as-inferior-to-older-american-foreign-fighters/

The performance of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is inferior to foreign jets it is expected to outperform in engagements and barely justifies replacing with it the older models currently deployed by the Pentagon, a scalding report says.

With an estimated price tag of $1.4 trillion, the Joint Strike Fighter is among Pentagon’s most expensive weapons program. The 5th-generation multipurpose fighter jets are meant to become the backbone of America’s air power for decades to come and play a significant part in defense capability of its allies.

But the performance characteristics of the advanced aircraft are inferior to those of 4th-generation aircraft deployed by advanced foreign power like Russia or China, which it is meant to dominate through superior technology, a scalding new report said.

The report released this week by US progressive think tank National Security Network identified four key areas in which the F-35 does not deliver: poor maneuverability that makes it vulnerable in dogfights, small internal payload capacity, short operational range and reliance on stealth technology for survivability.


READ MORE !
http://www.infowars.com/f-35-slammed-as-inferior-to-older-american-foreign-fighters/



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Re: U.S. Would Struggle to Win War With Russia - ( and that's Official )
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2015, 06:41:16 AM »
Splurging on Defense ‘Will Not Ensure’ US Victory Over Russia
The United States spends $600 billion a year on defense, but is still not certain that it can defeat Russia in a conventional conflict, a US military analyst admitted
http://www.infowars.com/splurging-on-defense-will-not-ensure-us-victory-over-russia/


The United States spends $600 billion a year on defense, but is still not certain that it can defeat Russia in a conventional conflict, a US military analyst admitted.

Russia is able to fight along its own border areas and open up fronts in multiple regions, making it almost impossible for the US and NATO to sustain a fight against them, Tyler Rogoway, the founder of Foxtrot Alpha weblog wrote on Friday.

Rogoway quoted Ray Odierno, the famed Four Star US Army General, as saying that “one of the things we learned is the logistical challenges we have in Eastern Europe. For example, Eastern Europe has a different gauge railroad than Western Europe does, so moving supplies is more difficult.”

“That is a pretty stupid lesson to learn considering the US has been operating in Europe for 75 years,” Rogoway noted.

General Odierno also said that only 33 percent of the US Army’s fighting brigades are ready to engage Russia, with 60 percent being seen as the minimal number needed to successfully do so.

What’s worse is that the Army will only hopefully reach that readiness number right before the end of the decade.

During the Cold War 250,000 US troops were garrisoned in Europe; today there are 31,000. This is a similar number to what America has in South Korea today.

Tyler Rogoway said that the leaked results of the “table-top war games” (where no actual weapons are fired but decision are made based force sizes, capabilities and each players moves) could be another ploy by the Pentagon to get more money for  the military.

“The truth of the matter is that it is pretty sad that America can spend $600 billion a year on defense and it still cannot be certain of vanquishing Russia during a conventional conflict,” Tyler Rogoway concluded.

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Chinese Submarine proves it can sink US Fleet Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2015, 02:16:05 PM »

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY
Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html#ixzz3jBv6ylgc

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.



American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.



The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.