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« on: February 18, 2008, 06:15:40 PM »

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WASHINGTON - Amtrak will start randomly screening passengers' carry-on bags this week in a new security push that includes officers with automatic weapons and bomb-sniffing dogs patrolling platforms and trains.
The initiative, to be announced by the railroad on Tuesday, is a significant shift for Amtrak. Unlike the airlines, it has had relatively little visible increase in security since the 2001 terrorist attacks, a distinction that has enabled it to attract passengers eager to avoid airport hassles.

Amtrak officials insist their new procedures won't hold up the flow of passengers.

"On-time performance is a key element of Amtrak service. We are fully mindful of that. This is not about train delays," Bill Rooney, the railroad's vice president for security strategy and special operations, told The Associated Press.

Nor will the moves require passengers to arrive at stations far in advance, officials said. Passengers who are selected randomly for the screening will be delayed no more than a couple of minutes, Amtrak chief executive Alex Kummant said.

"We're very conscious of the fact that you're in an environment where commuters have minutes to go from train to train," he said.

Bombings in Spain raised fears
Concern about Amtrak security has been mounting since the 2004 bombings of commuter trains in Madrid that killed 191 people. Trains also have been bombed in London, where 52 people were killed in a series of blasts in 2005, most of them on subway trains, and in Mumbai, India, where 200 people were killed in 2006 on commuter trains. Russia also has had several bombings on subway, commuter and long-distance trains.

The new procedures draw heavily on measures being used in the New York City subways, Rooney said. That model has been upheld in court challenges, he noted.

Amtrak plans to roll out the new "mobile security teams" first on the Northeast Corridor between Washington and Boston, the railroad's most heavily used route, before expanding them to the rest of the country.

The teams will show up unannounced at stations and set up baggage screening areas in front of boarding gates. Officers will randomly pull people out of line and wipe their bags with a special swab that is then put through a machine that detects explosives. If the machine detects anything, officers will open the bag for visual inspection.

Anybody who is selected for screening and refuses will not be allowed to board and their ticket will be refunded.

In addition to the screening, counterterrorism officers with bomb-sniffing dogs will patrol platforms and walk through trains, and sometimes will ride the trains, officials said.

Different approach from airport system
Tim Connors, director of the Center for Policing Terrorism at the Manhattan Institute, said rail systems require a completely different approach to security from the one used in aviation.

"Rail moves a lot more people than air does," he said. "It's designed to be an open system that can move a lot of people fast."


One of Congress' biggest advocates for passenger rail, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said the security initiative makes sense as long as it doesn't cause delays.

"Given that terrorists have chosen passenger rail as one of their targets of choice, provided this doesn't slow things down or require additional longer lines and waits, this plan is certainly worth trying," he said in a statement.

Connors said random screening could be effective.


"A random approach is actually more effective than a constant one," he said, adding that when procedures don't change, it's easier for would-be terrorists to find weak spots.

Amtrak hopes the new force can serve as a powerful deterrent to would-be terrorists.

"What we are trying to do is make sure the bad guys know we're out there but don't know where we'll be, or when," Rooney said.

No estimate of searches' cost
Amtrak did not provide figures for the program's cost, but said its total security budget — including police, security strategy and emergency preparedness — is about $60 million. The railroad has about 400 security personnel, including about 300 sworn police officers, Kummant said.

Amtrak's previous passenger screening consisted of sporadic identification checks by train conductors, which the railroad says it plans to continue. Passengers also are required to show ID when buying tickets from station agents, though there is no such requirement from passengers buying tickets from self-serve kiosks.

The Transportation Security Administration is also expected to continue sporadic deployments to stations around the country.

Amtrak has received a number of federal grants aimed at boosting security, but officials said there was no specific mandate to implement the changes.

"There is no new or different specific threat," Kummant said. "This is just the correct step to take."
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 06:39:58 PM »

COULD THEY BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS!?!?!?!?!?!

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 06:48:46 PM »

COULD THEY BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS!?!?!?!?!?!



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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 08:32:25 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331100,00.html
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 08:50:07 PM »

Not too far away from this:


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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »

Who wants to bet the the bomb sniffing dogs can also sniff for drugs and the swabs will detect drugs?

For terrorism and "other" crimes.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 08:53:26 PM »

I fell safer already from just seeing the picture.Tonight's better sleep has been sponsored by Rock.Thanks for that.  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 08:53:29 PM »

Four fat dumb f**king Nazis and 200-300 Jews lining up to be gassed.

This is what America is coming to.

Wake up Sheeple.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 09:02:23 PM »

This has really upset me. 

I love Amtrak, I met my wife on The City of New Orleans.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 09:03:57 PM »

Are you a leader or are you a sheeple. The camps are ready but study these pictures.

For those of you who say WE CANT WIN.

I say f**k YOU!  You deserve to die!

GET MAD.  STAND UP FOR YOUSELF.  YOUR LIFE MATTERS.  YOUR LIFE HAS MEANING.

I say if you cant.  ITS NO WONDER THEY KILLED THEM IN CAMPS.  ( SORRY BUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH PREVAILS.)


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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 09:07:58 PM »

Yes, NEVER GIVE IN!!!!  NEVER ROLL OVER!!!!!  FIGHT FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, OR FREEDOM, WE MUST TAKE IT BACK!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 09:08:16 PM »

They should try having armed guards in schools and colleges... where it matters.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 09:09:56 PM »

They should try having armed guards in schools and colleges... where it matters.

They do,don't they Huh Campus police.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 09:21:17 PM »

I thought Amtrak already had police?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak_Police

The Amtrak Police is a railroad police agency that acts as the security and law enforcement agency of Amtrak, a passenger train system in the United States. The Amtrak Police has 342 sworn police officers, most of whom are stationed within the Northeast Corridor, Amtrak's busiest route.

This agency is responsible for the security of the 300 trains per day over some 22,000+ miles of rail with approximately 540 Stations in 46 states. They have accreditation from the Commission on Accreditation for Law Enforcement Agencies.

Amtrak Police share juridiction with the FBI on investigating offenses committed on the Amtrak system. The agency is affliated with the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 09:39:44 PM »

The cop on the right in Rock's picture looks like he has enough clips in his vest to take out the whole damn train. Shocked

Hard to tell but that is what it looks like.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 10:03:51 PM »

I rather have storm troopers, I kind of wish this was all like star wars, least we would have the force... maybe its just my star wars nerd coming out.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 10:07:14 PM »

But the people need to be woke up and FAST!!
I agree 100% but the sheeple need to be awakened!
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 10:28:15 PM »

Some people in the truth movement know somethings wrong but there afraid. 

They think that we will loose.

and nothing they do will matter.

But look at these people in the photo.

Those that sit idly by and do nothing are equally as guilty as those who commit the atrocities.
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 10:38:54 PM »

Hell, if everyone would have agreed to make a break for it at the same time, the camps would have been overflowing....  But "group-think" even prevails in the camps.

Probably only 5% even thought about escaping.  Similiar to the minority who are leading "this movement" (are an even smaller fraction of society at large).


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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 10:48:53 PM »

Who wants to bet the the bomb sniffing dogs can also sniff for drugs and the swabs will detect drugs?

For terrorism and "other" crimes.

they are not bomb sniffing dog, those are too expensive and new technology makes them less necessary.  These are shepherds....


SHEEP HERDER DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!

WE ARE THE SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!

Bomb sniffing dogs, WTF?!?!?!?! you cannot make this shit up!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2008, 08:21:14 AM »

If you set off alarms they give you the option to leave and get a refund without them going through your stuff.  So if you forgot that you left your CCW in your pocket or bag you can exscape.  For now anyway.

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2008, 08:42:02 AM »

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Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You better watch out,
There may be dogs about
Ive looked over jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the dangers not real.
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is no bad dream.

The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives he releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, he hath great power, and great hunger.

When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then well make the buggers eyes water.

Bleating and babbling I fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as youre told.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2008, 09:10:15 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2008, 09:57:25 AM »

The cop on the right in Rock's picture looks like he has enough clips in his vest to take out the whole damn train. Shocked

Hard to tell but that is what it looks like.

Are we sure they are not flash grenades?


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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2008, 10:06:39 AM »

Local tv here in Philadelphia did a story on it and magically every one that was interviewed loved it!:

http://cbs3.com/topstories/Amtrak.Security.Train.2.657302.html

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Amtrak Unveils New Security Measures
WASHINGTON (AP) ―

Amtrak will start randomly screening passengers' carry-on bags this week in a new security push that includes officers with automatic weapons and bomb-sniffing dogs patrolling platforms and trains.

The initiative, to be announced by the railroad on Tuesday, is a significant shift for Amtrak. Unlike the airlines, it has had relatively little visible increase in security since the 2001 terrorist attacks, a distinction that has enabled it to attract passengers eager to avoid airport hassles.

Amtrak officials insist their new procedures won't hold up the flow of passengers.

"On-time performance is a key element of Amtrak service. We are fully mindful of that. This is not about train delays," Bill Rooney, the railroad's vice president for security strategy and special operations, told The Associated Press.

Nor will the moves require passengers to arrive at stations far in advance, officials said. Passengers who are selected randomly for the screening will be delayed no more than a couple of minutes, Amtrak chief executive Alex Kummant said.

"We're very conscious of the fact that you're in an environment where commuters have minutes to go from train to train," he said.

Concern about Amtrak security has been mounting since the 2004 bombings of commuter trains in Madrid that killed 191 people.  Trains also have been bombed in London, where 52 people were killed in a series of blasts in 2005, most of them on subway trains, and in Mumbai, India, where 200 people were killed in 2006 on commuter trains. Russia also has had several bombings on subway, commuter and long-distance trains.

The new procedures draw heavily on measures being used in the New York City subways, Rooney said. That model has been upheld in court challenges, he noted.

Amtrak plans to roll out the new "mobile security teams" first on the Northeast Corridor between Washington and Boston, the railroad's most heavily used route, before expanding them to the rest of the country.

The teams will show up unannounced at stations and set up baggage screening areas in front of boarding gates. Officers will randomly pull people out of line and wipe their bags with a special swab that is then put through a machine that detects explosives. If the machine detects anything, officers will open the bag for visual inspection.

Anybody who is selected for screening and refuses will not be allowed to board and their ticket will be refunded.

In addition to the screening, counterterrorism officers with bomb-sniffing dogs will patrol platforms and walk through trains, and sometimes will ride the trains, officials said.

Tim Connors, director of the Center for Policing Terrorism at the Manhattan Institute, said rail systems require a completely different approach to security from the one used in aviation.

"Rail moves a lot more people than air does," he said. "It's designed to be an open system that can move a lot of people fast."

One of Congress' biggest advocates for passenger rail, Sen.  Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said the security initiative makes sense as long as it doesn't cause delays.

"Given that terrorists have chosen passenger rail as one of their targets of choice, provided this doesn't slow things down or require additional longer lines and waits, this plan is certainly worth trying," he said in a statement.

Connors said random screening could be effective.

"A random approach is actually more effective than a constant one," he said, adding that when procedures don't change, it's easier for would-be terrorists to find weak spots.

Amtrak hopes the new force can serve as a powerful deterrent to would-be terrorists.

"What we are trying to do is make sure the bad guys know we're out there but don't know where we'll be, or when," Rooney said.

Amtrak did not provide figures for the program's cost, but said its total security budget—including police, security strategy and emergency preparedness—is about $60 million. The railroad has about 400 security personnel, including about 300 sworn police officers, Kummant said.

Amtrak's previous passenger screening consisted of sporadic identification checks by train conductors, which the railroad says it plans to continue. Passengers also are required to show ID when buying tickets from station agents, though there is no such requirement from passengers buying tickets from self-serve kiosks.

The Transportation Security Administration is also expected to continue sporadic deployments to stations around the country.

And here is the link to the propaganda video that goes along with it: http://cbs3.com/video/?id=52945@kyw.dayport.com

The video will really want to make you vomit.
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2008, 03:08:12 PM »

I have no doubt that the main target of these dogs and swabs will be people with weed or who like a line or two, it will be used simply for control and to condition the people to having armed units and dogs and swab tests and scanners so that eventually they will be everywhere.

One of the main reasons they dislike social drug users and weed smokers is that these people often provide more resistence to the NWO as they foten think outside the box. The NWO would prefer everyone to be either clean and controlled, or hard drug addicts directly feeding the CIA/MI6 black ops coffers with their addictions to crack and heroin.

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2008, 12:36:25 PM »

Knowing they would raise gas prices, they are training for alot of people using the trains to get to work.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2008, 03:28:51 PM »

Knowing they would raise gas prices, they are training for alot of people using the trains to get to work.

Excellent point...
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2008, 10:00:43 PM »



And then they have you, don't they? A long time ago I was having a conversation with someone, I forget who, but anyway the point was brought up about not having the freedom to travel wherever you want whenever you wanted to. It was asked how they could make that possible and then the ideas were exchanged about lowering wages, costs of goods eating up our earned money, leaving us with no disposable income, raising the price of gas making it impossible for us to drive and this forces us all to stay home.

Then they know who you are, where you live, what you have, know where you are because you can't afford to go anywhere and then you're a target.

I thought it was possible but not likely at the time. Now, absolutely. Creating the absolute system of control more everyday. We need to fight this.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2008, 05:43:20 AM »

Knowing they would raise gas prices, they are training for alot of people using the trains to get to work.
I think its   may 11,2008  to travel by plane or train you need the Federal  Real ID   or you are just sh#t out of luck.
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