ALERT>> Spy satellite Nuke Threat? National Reconnaissance Office EXPOSED!!!

[Beefcake]

I used to love this movie.  Spies like us you can find it everywhere in like bargain bins.  Just search for it on www.btjunkie.com i'm sure the torrent will be there.  "Spies like us" was the movie.  Really funny.

[PatriotX]

Couple that with the peripheral musings..... some astrologists and numerologists on Coast to Coast predicting that February, this summer, and some other time frames (forgot already) during this year will be alarmingly devastating....

Brace for IMPACT!!


Patriot X

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Armageddon (1998 film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon_(film)

Armageddon is an Academy Award-nominated disaster/science fiction film about a group of blue-collar deep-core drillers who are sent by NASA to deflect an asteroid on a collision course with Earth. It was directed by Michael Bay, produced by Jerry Bruckheimer and released on Disney's Touchstone Pictures label. It stars Bruce Willis, Billy Bob Thornton, Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler. The film's tagline is "For Love. For Honor. For Mankind."

A novelization was written by C. Bolin, based on the screenplay by Jonathan Hensleigh and the story by Jonathan Hensleigh and Robert Pool.Contents


While in the middle of an EVA, the Space Shuttle Atlantis is struck by thousands of tiny asteroids and explodes in space. Shortly after, an area of Earth from Finland to the southeastern United States is bombarded by more meteors. Several destroy landmarks and skyscrapers in New York City. NASA determines that the smaller asteroids were forced towards Earth by a much larger one the size of Texas, which will strike the Earth in 18 days causing total destruction of all life.

NASA then decides to recruit Harry Stamper, reputed to be the best deepcore driller in the world. In a subplot, Stamper finds that his best man, AJ Frost, drilled in an unauthorized well on Harry's oil rig in the South China Sea. As he goes to confront AJ, he finds Frost has been secretly dating Stamper’s daughter, Grace, for several months. While going after him with a shotgun, ("I'm not gonna kill him, just take off a foot. A man can still work with only one foot," he says to his friend, Chick) the well opens up, spewing oil all over the rig, and onto the clients who had just come aboard to see the progress. Harry, who knew the relief valve on that particular well was broken, fires AJ over the blatant safety violation.

As the crew cleans up, the Commander of the Pacific Air Force arrives via helicopter to bring Harry back to the mainland. Since he won't leave without his daughter, Grace is loaded onto the helicopter and both fly away, eventually arriving at the NASA Space Center in Houston.

There, Dan Truman, head of NASA, explains to Harry and Grace about the incoming asteroid and the plan of NASA to destroy it before it reaches Earth.

Harry agrees to take the job of destroying the asteroid, but only if he can take his own crew to do the job. The plan is to approach the asteroid from behind and land on it, drill to 800 feet, plant a nuclear bomb in the shaft and detonate it remotely after evacuation. The deadline for detonation is a distance from Earth called "zero barrier," which will allow the two halves of the asteroid to miss Earth when split apart. Harry's best workers prepare for the mission through rigorous space travel drills, modification of their equipment and pointed psychological tests to determine if they are able to work in space.

The crew take off in two specially adapted shuttles, Freedom and Independence. They dock with a delapidated, Mir-like Russian space station manned by a single Cosmonaut. The space station blows up during refueling and Lev Andropov, the cosmonaut evacuates to the Independence.

The shuttles increase their speed to match the asteroid's velocity by flying at high speed around the dark side of the moon. On their approach, debris from the asteroid's tail strikes the Independence, causing massive damage. The shuttle crashes on the surface of the asteroid and only AJ, Lev and Bear are left alive. They pile into their drilling vehicle, the Armadillo, and head out in search of Harry’s crew.

Harry’s crew lands safely on the asteroid despite damage to the shuttle. Communications are out, leaving the crew with no way to contact Earth. They also determine that have overshot their landing site and are sitting on an area comprised of iron, making it extremely difficult to drill. The crew start their project anyway and quickly figure out that the drilling will be nearly impossible; the destroy one drill bit and a gear transmission in the first two hours.
 

One of Stamper’s crew, Rockhound, has a negative psychological reaction to working in space. He causes a distraction while playing with a machine gun, nearly shooting a few crew members. While they attempt to bring him under control, the drilling vehicle hits a gas pocket, blasting it off the asteroid, taking crew member Max with it. On Earth, the media report that the mission has failed.

As they wait out their ultimate fate, the crew discovers that AJ has survived the crash of the Independence and has arrived at the drilling site in the second Armadillo. They continue the operation and despite some arguments between AJ and Harry, drill to 800 feet. Following a few more mishaps, including AJ being trapped in the shaft, they plant the nuke and prepare to evacuate. However, the bomb has been damaged and remote detonation from a safe distance is now impossible.

The remaining members of Stamper’s crew draw straws to see who will stay behind and activate the bomb. AJ draws the short straw. As he and Harry return to the drilling site, Harry pulls out his oxygen feed tube and forces him back into the shuttle, telling him to take care of Grace.

The crew manages to fix the shuttle and they take off leaving Harry behind. Harry contacts Grace at NASA headquarters and they exchange last goodbyes. Harry is rocked by several quakes but manages to reach the detonator. His last thoughts are of Grace as he pushes the button just before zero barrier is breached. The asteroid is blasted in half and the two pieces miss colliding with Earth.

The Freedom crew lands safely back on Earth and are met by NASA officials and Grace. She and AJ are reunited and the final scenes of the film are of their wedding.

Reception and criticism
The film was an international box office success, but it received a large amount of criticism from film reviewers. On Rotten Tomatoes it scores 41%;[1] on a similar website, Metacritic, it similarly scores 42%. The film is on the list of Roger Ebert's most hated films: in his original review, he stated "The movie is an assault on the eyes, the ears, the brain, common sense and the human desire to be entertained".[2] In contrast, his long-time friend Gene Siskel from the show Siskel & Ebert gave it a "thumbs up."

The film received the Saturn Awards for Best Direction and Best Science Fiction Film (where it tied with Dark City). However, it was also nominated in seven categories for the 1998 Golden Raspberry Awards for bad films; only one was awarded: Bruce Willis received the Worst Actor award for Armageddon, in addition to his appearances in Mercury Rising and The Siege.

Despite the general critical disdain, a DVD edition of Armageddon was released by The Criterion Collection, a specialist film distributor of primarily arthouse films that markets what it considers to be "important classic and contemporary films" and "cinema at its finest".[3] In an essay supporting the selection of Armageddon, film scholar Jeanne Basinger, who taught Michael Bay at Wesleyan University, states that the film is "a work of art by a cutting-edge artist who is a master of movement, light, color, and shape—and also of chaos, razzle-dazzle, and explosion". She sees it as a celebration of working men: "This film makes these ordinary men noble, lifting their efforts up into an epic event." Further, she states that in the first few moments of the film all the main characters are well established, saying, "If that isn't screenwriting, I don't know what is".[4]

Despite the poor reviews and criticism, Armageddon was nominated for four Academy Awards (Best Sound, Best Special Effects, Best Effects Editing, and Best Original Song).

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Scientific inaccuracies

The physics and scientific approach of Armageddon was criticized for its poor adherence to the laws of physics. This has led NASA to show the film as part of its management training program. Prospective managers are asked to find as many inaccuracies in the movie as they can. At least 168 impossible things have been found during these screenings of the film.[5] Nevertheless the movie adheres to standard Hollywood conventions when it comes to science, such as having noise in space.

Among the myriad choices to divert the asteroid from its course towards Earth, the movie implies that using a nuclear device would be the best solution, while in reality using a nuclear device would prove risky. It is also mentioned that no nuclear weapon would be able to sufficiently break up an asteroid that, according to Truman, was "the size of Texas", which is tremendously larger than any sub-planetary object ever observed in the solar system anyway.[6][7] However, he may not have meant it literally, as claiming something to be the size of Texas is an informal way of stating that it is very large. Whatever the real size of the asteroid may be, it would not have a gravity similar to that of the moon as is implied in the movie.

Also, the surface of the asteroid is extremely craggy and sharp, but real asteroids as large as this one would be worn smooth and look more like a potato. Indeed, most asteroids larger than 300 km in diameter are spherical, and an asteroid the size of Texas (1244x1270 km) would certainly be so, lacking the vast craggy canyons as depicted in the film. [7] For an asteroid 1200 km in diameter (assuming the asteroid was round), drilling 800 feet would not be deep enough in order to plant the nuclear bomb in the "core".[7]

It is mentioned that a rogue comet has flown through the asteroid belt and knocked off asteroids in the process. In reality, the asteroid belt isn't that densely populated. The chances of other asteroids being knocked off their orbits by an object flying through it is extremely minimal.

The explosion that shears the asteroid in two slices would not prevent both parts from striking the Earth if they were as close to the Earth as depicted in the movie; neither fragment would have enough momentum to clear the attraction of the Earth. Even if a nuclear explosion could vaporize enough gas within this asteroid to break it, the two halves would simply attract each other back into one ball, re-formed from its own gravity.[6]

Kennedy Space Center launch pads 39A and 39B appear to be only a few hundred feet apart, but in reality they are more than 1.6 miles apart. In either case, two shuttles could never be launched simultaneously; the vibration involved would destroy both vehicles. In a related issue, the space shuttles used in the movies (although specified to have been modified) are designed for orbital space travel, not for landing on objects in outer space.

Moreover, since the two shuttles docked sideways, the astronauts should not be walking in the corridors, but instead climbing up ladders to meet in the middle of the station (where they would be weightless yet again).

The shuttles have engines running blue flames continuously, whereas in reality short bursts of gas jets are used to provide altitude controls. The shuttles are also shown performing banked turns after it escapes the Earth's atmosphere, this method would never be used in space as there is no air resistance to make it actually possible hence no spacecraft, modified or otherwise could ever move in this manner.

During the slingshot around the moon, the characters are subjected to eleven times Earth gravity for an extended period of time. In reality seven to nine times gravity can cause blackouts, while eleven times gravity would usually prove fatal. Additionally, the Space Shuttle is not designed to survive anything like eleven times the force of gravity.

In the briefing scene, the crew is informed they will dock with Mir and take on liquid oxygen, the fuel for the shuttles. Oxygen is an oxidizer, which a fuel requires in the vacuum of space. In reality, the fuel should have been hydrogen, kerosene, or another suitable hydrocarbon which would require oxidization. This also raises the question of why the Mir would have so much extra fuel on board in the first place.[7]

The Russian space station's portrayal is unlikely in itself: initiating a rotation to accommodate artificial gravity would in reality threaten the structural integrity of such a pronged modular craft, and spinning the station before docking would be impractical, as it renders a normally tricky docking nearly impossible since the docking ports are on the external rotating pods. Furthermore, a rotating station would need its docking area along the axis of rotation, plus the docking vessel would have to match that rotation, and match its center of gravity along the docking point approaching along the station's axis of rotation.[7]

Obtaining special suits that use small thrusters to keep the astronauts on the ground would be a waste of fuel; their backpacks could not offer sufficient thrust for more than a few minutes. EVA suits have a large backpack to accommodate the thruster jets and use them sparingly to maneuver.

At the opening scene, an asteroid flies overhead towards earth accompanied by a loud roar, when in fact, there would be no sound in space, for in order for sound to occur there must be some medium for the sound waves to vibrate, such as air.

The large ground vehicles used by the digging teams would be unnecessary, as having a low gravitational force would mean that a large digging rig would simply float to its destination using small thrusters sparingly. However as there was a time limit on the mission it might simply have been more efficient to put the drills on the ready made vehicles than to design and build a platform, though using thrusters rather than wheels to move the vehicles would be more sensible on broken ground. This is not to mention that digging anything in zero-g requires an opposed and equal force.

There is no mention of what kind of propulsion the large digging vehicle uses. This is most likely since it would be impossible to power it with any currently known type of engine since most of these are based on combustion between oxygen and some kind of fossil-fuel. Since there obviously is no oxygen on the asteroid the vehicle would either need a new type of engine to be invented, or carry with it the oxygen as well as the fuel for whatever type of conventional engine it uses.

Additionally, the detonation of the nuclear bomb is visible from many different places on Earth simultaneously: from the United States to India. However, only a small portion of the planet would have been in a position to observe the explosion from the surface.

Scientific and other mistakes at moviemistakes.com

Given all of the above, it is perhaps ironic that director Michael Bay appears to criticise the scientifically valid theories underlying real asteroid deflection strategies in the DVD commentary, calling them "asinine". The script's dialog also seems to negatively present valid and proven scientific theories. An odd example is where the character Rockhound, an apparent genius who obtained his Ph.D at age 22, suggests that the notion of gravitational slingshot is akin to a failed stunt from a Road Runner cartoon.

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It's definitely making a beeline towards the US. Should be over the Southwest in about an hour. 

[StemCell]

NASA Readies Backup Shuttle Runway to Aid Spy Satellite Shot
By Tariq Malik
Senior Editor
posted: 15 February 2008
6:58 pm ET

HOUSTON — NASA will call up a backup landing strip for the space shuttle Atlantis next week to give the U.S. military more leeway to shoot down an ailing spy satellite, mission managers said Friday.

The space agency will activate a backup runway at California's Edwards Air Force Base on Feb. 20 in addition to the shuttle's primary landing site at the Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in Cape Canaveral, Fla., to give the U.S. Navy the largest window possible in which to launch a missile at the dead satellite, said Sally Davis, lead space station flight director for the shuttle flight.

"We're going to open up Dryden at the Edwards Air Force Base to ensure that we land at the earliest opportunity, Davis told reporters as she read a NASA statement here at the Johnson Space Center. "The reason is to give the military the biggest possible window and maximum flexibility to ensure the success of the satellite intercept."

Atlantis is currently scheduled to land at the KSC runway at 9:06 a.m. EST (1406 GMT) on Wednesday, with a second opportunity available at 10:40 a.m. EST (1540 GMT). By activating the backup runway at Edwards, a third landing possibility is now available at 12:12 p.m. EST (1712 GMT).

Pentagon officials announced Thursday that it plans to fire a Standard Missile 3 from a U.S. Navy Aegis ship in the days following Atlantis' landing to destroy a U.S. reconnaissance satellite before it crashes to Earth.

"So we're going to bring the shuttle down before we even consider this option," U.S. Marine Corps Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said during the Thursday announcement. 

The classified National Reconnaissance Office satellite weighs 5,015 pounds (2,275 kilograms) and is about the size of a bus. It launched in December 2006, but suffered a major malfunction and is rapidly falling toward Earth. Eager skywatchers can observe the satellite in orbit as it flies overhead.

If left on its own, at least 50 percent of the satellite's mass would survive reentry — including a tank full of toxic hydrazine fuel — prompting concerns that debris could endanger the public should it fall on a populated area, Cartwright said.

The window in which to destroy the satellite just before it reenters the Earth's atmosphere — and still limit the risk of secondary debris endangering unmanned spacecraft, the International Space Station (ISS) and the public on the ground — closes just days after Atlantis' planned Feb. 20 landing.

NASA traditionally only targets the Shuttle Landing Facility runway at its KSC for the first landing day of a shuttle mission because it cuts at least a week and $1.7 million from the spacecraft's turnaround costs for subsequent flights.

Backup landing strips are available at Edwards and, less desireably, White Sands Space Harbor in White Sands, N.M. The New Mexico landing strip is less equipped to receive a landing shuttle and ferry it back to NASA's KSC launch site than the agency's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards.

NASA chief Michael Griffin said Thursday that the effort to shoot down the defunct spy satellite will not endanger Atlantis or the international, three-astronaut crew serving aboard the space station. Top space station officials reiterated that point today.

"We've analyzed it and it has negligible impact or additional risk to the space station," said Kirk Shireman, NASA's deputy space station program manager.

Shireman said that there are no current plans to have the space station crew, which is commanded by American astronaut Peggy Whitson, attempt to observe or photograph the satellite's destruction from orbit. 

"We're not concerned at all about any risk to the space station an dat this time have no plans for any operations in conjunction," Shireman said.

Commanded by veteran shuttle astronaut Stephen Frick, Atlantis' seven-astronaut crew is in the midst of a 13-day mission to deliver the European Space Agency's Columbus lab and a new crewmember to the ISS.

The shuttle astronauts launched aboard Atlantis on Feb. 20. 

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Inside America's Satellite-Killing Missile

By Noah Shachtman EmailFebruary 15, 2008 | 12:05:39 PMCategories: Missiles, Space 

Now that is a very helpful post!

TYVM!

[Optimus]

It's definitely making a beeline towards the US. Should be over the Southwest in about an hour. 

Looks like it will fly straight over Hawaii too!

[PatriotX]

"So we're going to bring the shuttle down before we even consider this option," U.S. Marine Corps Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said during the Thursday announcement.  



Patriot X

(How thoughtful....)

[Dig]

It's definitely making a beeline towards the US. Should be over the Southwest in about an hour. 

it is not scheduled to come down for 5 days.

it will rotate the earth a few times before then.

[PatriotX]

Atlantis' seven-astronaut crew is in the midst of a 13-day mission

Another "13".....


Patriot X   

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http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/2008/02/navy-to-shoot-down-malfunctioning.html

Navy to Shoot Down Malfunctioning Satellite



A Standard Missile (SM-3) is launched from the Aegis combat system equipped Arleigh Burke class destroyer USS Decatur (DDG 73) during a Missile Defense Agency ballistic missile flight test. (U.S. Navy Photo)

WASHINGTON (NNS) -- The Navy will shoot down a malfunctioning U.S. spy satellite sometime after Feb. 20, government officials said during a Pentagon news conference Feb. 14.

Ambassador James F. Jeffrey, assistant to the president and deputy national security advisor, said President George W. Bush decided to bring down the satellite because of the likelihood that the satellite could release hydrazine, a toxic chemical used as a maneuvering fuel.

"The likelihood of the satellite falling in a populated area is small, and the extent and duration of toxic hydrazine in the atmosphere would be limited," Jeffrey said. "Nevertheless, if the satellite did fall in a populated area, there was the possibility of death or injury to human beings beyond that associated with the fall of satellites and other space debris."

The window for shooting down the satellite opens in the next three or four days and remains open for as many as seven or eight days, said Marine Gen. James E. Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said the study group looked carefully at increased risks to the shuttle and International Space Station and decided they are negligible.

"We are very comfortable that this is a decision made carefully, objectively and safely," Griffin said.

Still, the Navy will not fire until after the shuttle Atlantis mission ends Feb. 20.

In late January, the U.S. government notified other nations that the satellite was unresponsive and would make an uncontrolled reentry in late February or early March.

The Navy has modified three SM-3 missiles aboard Aegis ships to strike the satellite, Cartwright said. The Navy wants to intercept the satellite at a point just above the atmosphere so there would be a high likelihood of bringing it down in an unpopulated area. An intercept also would rupture the hydrazine tank. The vice chairman would not say exactly where the ships would fire from, only saying it will be from the northern hemisphere and the Pacific Ocean.

Intercepting the satellite at about 130 nautical miles altitude will reduce the risk of debris in space. Once the satellite is hit, officials hope 50 percent of the debris will come to Earth in the first two orbits and the rest shortly thereafter, Cartwright said.

The satellite belongs to the National Reconnaissance Office and was launched Dec. 14, 2006. It weighs roughly 5,000 pounds, and computer models show that roughly 2,800 pounds would survive reentry.

"What is different here is the hydrazine," Cartwright said. "In this case, we have some historical background that we can work against for the tank that contains the hydrazine. We had a similar one on Columbia that survived reentry. We have a pretty reasonable understanding that, if the tank is left intact, it would survive the reentry."

The tank is circular with a radius of 20 inches. It holds about 1,000 pounds of the fuel.

While details of the satellite are classified -- DoD officials will not release who built it or how much it costs -- that had no bearing on the decision to shoot it down, Cartwright said. The temperatures from reentry would burn up any classified system on the satellite, he said.

Hydrazine is similar to chlorine or ammonia in that it affects lung tissue. People inhaling it would feel a burning sensation. "If you stay close to it and inhale a lot of it, it could be deadly," Cartwright said.

If the military did not shoot down the satellite, the hydrazine would disperse over an area roughly the size of two football fields, the general said. Those who breathed it would need medical attention.

"As we reviewed the data, if we fire at the satellite, the worst that could happen is that we miss," Cartwright said. "Then we have a known situation, which is where we are today."

Grazing the satellite would probably still bring it down quicker and more predictably, he said.

"If we hit the hydrazine tank, then we've improved the potential to mitigate that threat," he said. "The regret factor of not acting clearly outweighed the regret factor of acting."

A Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) is launched from Pearl Harbor-based guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70) to intercept a threat representative target as part of a Missile Defense Agency test of the sea-based capability under development. This was part of a multiple simultaneous engagement involving two ballistic missile targets that were intercepted about 250 miles from Kauai and approximately 100 miles above the Pacific Ocean. The SM-3 was one of two interceptors launched from the ship that collided with two ballistic missile targets launched from the Pacific Missile Range Test Facility in Kauai, Hawaii, within minutes of one another. (U.S. Navy photo)

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Couple that with the peripheral musings..... some astrologists and numerologists on Coast to Coast predicting that February, this summer, and some other time frames (forgot already) during this year will be alarmingly devastating....

Brace for IMPACT!!


Patriot X

OK gonna go Nostradamus on ya:

Century 2, Quatrain 46

After a great misery for mankind an even greater approaches.
The great cycle of the centuries is renewed:
It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease.
In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a tail of sparks.

Century 1, Quatrain 16
Saturn joined with (Scorpio) transiting toward Sagittarius,
At its highest ascendant,
Pest, Famine, Death through military hand,
The century as well as the Age approaches its renewal.

Century 6, Quatrain 97
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city [New York City lies between 40-45 degrees]
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans [French].

and this thread over at abovetopsecret

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread334462/pg1

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it is not scheduled to come down for 5 days.

it will rotate the earth a few times before then.

Will we be able to see it up in the sky?

Sorry, I haven't really been following,

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Let us not forget

Chertoff Warns Of "Earth Shattering Events"

http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=1342138&nid=251

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QUESTION FOR EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET!

How does only one branch of our government have the authority to make a unilateral decision on dealing with a worldwide nuclear issue using a not-tested system that could spark nuclear armageddon?

How does one person have this power?


How come there are no congressional hearings before we launch a possible nuke missle to take out a possible nuke satellite over international areas?


How is this not an issue for the public?

And with crazy Dick at the controls..... i'm very worried.

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The tracking link is not working.

[PatriotX]

A dying satellite. A poison fuel. A sci-fi plan.
U.S. hopes to shoot down spy satellite laden with toxic hydrazine as it falls to Earth
From news services

Article Last Updated: 02/15/2008 08:55:11 AM CST


In this image provided by the US Navy a Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) is launched from Pearl Harbor-based guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70) to intercept a threat representative target as part of a Missile Defense Agency test of the sea-based capability under development on Nov. 6, 2007. Taking a page from Hollywood science fiction, the Pentagon said Thursday Feb. 14, 2008 it will try to shoot down a dying, bus-size U.S. spy satellite loaded with toxic fuel on a collision course with the Earth using a SM-3 missile. The military hopes to smash the satellite as soon as next week _ just before it enters Earth's atmosphere _ with a single missile fired from a Navy cruiser in the northern Pacific Ocean. Software associated with the SM-3 has been modified to enhance the chances of the missile's sensors recognizing that the satellite is its target. (AP Photo/US Navy)WASHINGTON - One shot.

That's all the military hopes it will take to bring down a dying, out-of-control, school bus-sized U.S. spy satellite loaded with toxic fuel and on a collision course with Earth.

Taking a page from Hollywood science fiction, the Pentagon said Thursday that a Navy cruiser somewhere in the northern Pacific will make an unprecedented attempt as soon as next week to shoot down the errant satellite with a missile, just before the spacecraft enters Earth's atmosphere.

The dramatic maneuver may well trigger international concerns, and U.S. officials have begun notifying other countries of the plan - stressing that it does not signal the start of a new American anti-satellite weapons program.

Military and administration officials said the satellite is carrying 1,000 pounds of hydrazine, a fuel that could injure or even kill people who are near it when it hits the ground. That reason alone, they said, persuaded President Bush to order the shootdown.

"That is the only thing that breaks it out, that is worthy of taking extraordinary measures," said Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during a Pentagon briefing Thursday.

He predicted a fairly high chance - as much as 80 percent - of hitting the satellite, which will be about 150 miles up when the shot is fired. The window of opportunity for taking the satellite down, Cartwright said, opens in three or four days and lasts for about seven or eight days. The


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Pentagon and NASA have been working on missile modifications for three weeks.
"We'll take one shot and assess," he said. "This is the first time we've used a tactical missile to engage a spacecraft."

Officials acknowledged that many satellites - some of them much larger - have fallen to Earth in the past without harm. But they said the presence of the 1,000 pounds of hydrazine - unexpended fuel contained in a 40-inch sphere they believe will not explode on re-entry and would hit the ground intact - led to the Pentagon recommending the shootdown attempt.

The satellite lost contact with ground control soon after it was launched in December 2006, so it was never ordered to burn its hydrazine maneuvering fuel. The spaceshuttle Columbia, which disintegrated as it re-entered the Earth's atmosphere in 2003, contained a canister of hydrazine gas that landed intact in a Texas woodland. The Columbia was at the end of its mission, however, and most of the hydrazine had already burned up.

Officials compared the effects of hydrazine fuel to chlorine or ammonia. "It affects your tissues and your lungs - it has the burning sensation," Cartwright said. "If you stay very close to it and inhale a lot of it, it could in fact be deadly."

Experts on military satellites agreed that hydrazine could pose a serious health hazard, although even Cartwright said it probably would be spread over an area the size of only two football fields if it hit the Earth.

Also, the Pentagon and NASA also want to destroy the satellite to avoid having it create debris that could threaten the space shuttle Atlantis on its return from the international space station, according to a military source.

Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffrey discounted comparisons to an anti-satellite test conducted by the Chinese last year that triggered criticism from the U.S. and other countries. "This is all about trying to reduce the danger to human beings," Jeffrey said.

There might also be unstated military aims, some outside the administration suggested.

Similar spacecraft re-enter the atmosphere regularly and break up into pieces, said Ivan Oelrich, vice president for strategic security programs at the Federation of American Scientists. He said, "One could be forgiven for asking if this is just an excuse to test an anti-satellite weapon."

Cartwright rejected widely disseminated blog allegations that the destruction of the satellite is intended to keep classified information aboard from landing in non-U.S. hands. Everything other than the gas container, he said, would be blown to pieces on re-entry even without the missile hit, he contended.

Members of Congress were briefed on the plan Thursday, as were diplomats from other nations. House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton said, "It should be understood by all, at home and abroad, that this is an exceptional circumstance and should not be perceived as the standard U.S. policy for dealing with errant satellites."

Cartwright said that if an initial shoot-down attempt fails, the military would have about two days to reassess and decide whether to take a second shot. Two additional U.S. Navy cruisers, with backup missiles, have been configured for a second and third chance, if necessary, Jeffrey said.

This report includes information from the Associated Press, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times.

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See the Falling Spy Satellite
By Joe Rao
SPACE.com Skywatching Columnist
posted: 15 February 2008
11:48 am ET

During the next week, a wayward U.S. spy satellite will make passes across North America and western Europe soon after sunset and should be easily visible to the unaided eye.

That's if it doesn't get shot down first.

The falling satellite is named USA 193. It was launched Dec. 14, 2006. It has been described as being similar in size to a school bus and might weigh as much as 10,000 pounds. It carries a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor but the satellite's central computer failed shortly after launch, never reaching its final orbit, and the Pentagon declared it a total loss in early 2007.

Since then, the satellite's orbit has been decaying — slowly at first. But in recent weeks USA 193's nearly circular orbit has been rapidly lowering. Currently, its altitude is approximately 160 miles (260 km) above the Earth.

Unless a proposed plan by the Pentagon is enacted to shoot down USA 193 during the next week, the satellite could conceivably re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and burn up sometime in mid-March.

Viewing opportunity

Today through Feb. 22, USA 193 will make a number of evening passes over North America and western Europe. It's orbit is inclined 58.5-degrees to the equator, a setup that makes it readily observable from most of the Northern Hemisphere.

During this period, USA 193 will move along a general southwest-to-northeast trajectory and pass over a number of cities in the United States, southern Canada and western Europe.

To spot a specific satellite, you need to know when and where to look.

Predictions for the times and locations of USA 193 are available at the Heavens Above website (www.heavens-above.com). Based on this website's sighting information, USA 193 will be very favorably placed for observation over a number of large cities, assuming it is still in orbit around the Earth and weather conditions permit.

What to look for

To find satellites, it's also helpful to know how to roughly measure the sky. Your clenched fist held at arm's length measures roughly 10-degrees of the sky. (From the horizon to the top of the sky (the zenith) measures 90-degrees.)

From Chicago, as an example, the spy satellite is predicted to reach as high as 38-degrees above the horizon (nearly four fists) on Feb. 17. That same date, as seen from Orlando, Florida, an evening pass as high as 65-degrees is predicted.

From Boston and Seattle, nearly overhead passes are forecast for (respectively) Feb.18 and Feb. 22. And on the latter date, London, England should have a fine pass, with USA 193 arcing as high as 77-degrees above the horizon.

It should be stressed that because of the rapidly changing nature of its orbit, sighting information from Heavens-Above should be checked frequently.

Those who have seen the International Space Station (ISS) flying across their local skies should be aware that USA 193 will appear noticeably fainter, since it's quite a bit smaller than the ISS. Yet, at its brightest, the spy satellite still should rank as bright as the brightest stars, at roughly first magnitude in astronomers parlance.

Also, since the spy satellite is in a lower orbit than the ISS, expect USA 193 to move much more rapidly across your line of sight.

[rphope]

Also, if they knew about this for over a year wouldn't you think they would have delayed the shuttle launch? I mean they launched right in the window of this thing entering earth atmosphere. makes no sense.

[Dig]

OK gonna go Nostradamus on ya:

Century 2, Quatrain 46

After a great misery for mankind an even greater approaches.
The great cycle of the centuries is renewed:
It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease.
In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a tail of sparks.

Century 1, Quatrain 16
Saturn joined with (Scorpio) transiting toward Sagittarius,
At its highest ascendant,
Pest, Famine, Death through military hand,
The century as well as the Age approaches its renewal.

Century 6, Quatrain 97
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city [New York City lies between 40-45 degrees]
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans [French].

and this thread over at abovetopsecret

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread334462/pg1

I am not a believer in numerology (I believe satanic f**ks in our gov are, so we kinda sorta keep an eye on it).  Most of it is used to make people nuts looking for designed dead ends till they frustrate themselves so much with numbers they go kookoo (Nash, Fisher, the movie PI, etc.).

I am mildly curious about nostradamus, but most of his crap has been translated to fit an objective and he wrote in so many codes so who knows.  in my opinion he was like orwell and tried to tell us the crap they were planning, but knew if it was too obvious he would get smacked.  all he did was blow the whistle on plans as if you or i blew the whistle on pike 200 years ago.  i mean he planned a lot of the shit happening today.  so again it is more of what their plans are.  also he was very specific to say this stuff can be averted if we all work together against these insane plans.

as far as the ATS board, sorry, i have found so much disinfo crap there it is not even funny.

there is so much logical and scientific data on whatever is happening.  if we stick with it we may find the truth and keep enough credibility to warn others.

[PatriotX]

More info on hydrazine fuel here:

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/roc/eleventh/profiles/s096hydr.pdf


Patriot X

[StemCell]

Satellite shootdown plan began in Jan.
Posted on Fri, Feb. 15, 2008
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By ROBERT BURNS
AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON --
Long before the public learned in late January that a damaged U.S. spy satellite carrying toxic fuel was going to crash to Earth, the government secretly assembled a high-powered team of officials and scientists to study the feasibility of shooting it down with a missile.

The order to launch the crash program came Jan. 4, according to defense officials who described Friday how it came to fruition for a final go-ahead decision by President Bush this week. The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition they not be identified because of the sensitivity of the work.

The initial order was twofold: Assess whether shooting down the satellite with a missile was even possible, and at the same time urgently piece together the technological tools it would take to succeed.

In a matter of weeks, three Navy warships - the USS Lake Erie, USS Decatur and USS Russell - were outfitted with modified Aegis anti-missile systems, the ships' crews were trained for an unprecedented mission, and three SM-3 missiles were pulled off an assembly line and given a new guidance system.

The decision to attempt a shootdown was disclosed by the Pentagon on Thursday. On Friday officials said it could happen next week, shortly after the space shuttle Atlantis returns from its current voyage at midweek. Officials want the Atlantis to be home to avoid the risk of being hit with satellite debris.

Lt. Gen. Carter Ham, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at the Pentagon on Friday that it's difficult not only to hit the satellite but even to know the best time to shoot.

"It's a bit of an imprecise science at this point," Ham said.

With an eye to the possibility that the missile effort will fail, the government has placed six rescue teams across the country to be prepared to act if the satellite hits the United States, according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency memo dated Feb. 14 and obtained by The Associated Press.

The spacecraft contains 1,000 pounds of hydrazine in a tank that is expected to survive re-entry and a fuel tank liner made of beryllium.

FEMA has prepared a guide for emergency responders that includes information about hydrazine and beryllium. The agency warns officials not to pick up any debris or provide mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to anyone who has inhaled hydrazine or beryllium.

The AP first reported on Jan. 26 that the U.S. satellite had lost power and was going to crash to Earth by early March. Normally the government would simply let a dying spacecraft fall on its own, with minuscule odds that it would land in a populated area. But in this case, Bush was persuaded by advisers that it would be worth trying to shoot it down to reduce the risk from the on-board toxic fuel.

As a first of its kind, the shootdown scenario draws on a wide range of scientific and military technologies - from ships and radar sites in the Pacific to high-powered telescopes in Hawaii and elsewhere, to a specially fitted Air Force plane and a Navy ship that snoops on missile tests.

To kick off the planning, the government assembled a high-security team of about 200 people - Navy scientists and missile defense experts, plus representatives of defense contractors Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, as well as scientists from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory. Lockheed is the manufacturer of the Aegis system and Raytheon makes the SM-3 missile.

The Lake Erie, a cruiser that has participated in a dozen mostly successful tests to intercept a mock enemy missile in flight over the past six years, would take the first shot at the satellite at a distance of about 150 miles, just beyond the reach of Earth's atmosphere.

The SM-3 missile aboard the Lake Erie is equipped with a heat-seeking sensor that has been modified in order to enable it to zero in on the satellite, whose heat "signature" is smaller than that of a ballistic missile in flight.

The SM-3 costs $9.5 million, not counting its one-of-a-kind modifications. It is designed to destroy its target not by detonating an explosive nearby but by slamming directly into the satellite at high speed.

Publicly, officials have expressed confidence that they will succeed in the intercept. Privately, some say there is a rising sense of anxiety, although the consequences of failure are not what they would be in war; if the missile misses, the bus-sized satellite will tumble to Earth on its own, with very small odds that the on-board tank of hydrazine - a toxic fuel - will harm any humans.

David Wright, a senior scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said in an interview Friday he would put the odds of a successful intercept at no better than 50 percent. And he expressed concern that debris from a successful strike could harm the other objects in relatively low orbit.

Wright said the situation presents diplomatic as well as technological challenges for Washington. The Bush administration is trying to convince other countries that the shootdown plan is not a disguised means of developing a program to kill their orbiting communications and intelligence capabilities.

The State Department has instructed U.S. diplomats around the world to inform their host governments that the operation is aimed solely at protecting people from the danger posed by the onboard fuel.

"Our role is to reassure nations around the world as to the nature of what we are trying to do," spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday. "It's an attempt to try to protect populations on the ground."

[rphope]

I am not a believer in numerology (I believe satanic f**ks in our gov are, so we kinda sorta keep an eye on it).  Most of it is used to make people nuts looking for designed dead ends till they frustrate themselves so much with numbers they go kookoo (Nash, Fisher, the movie PI, etc.).

I am mildly curious about nostradamus, but most of his crap has been translated to fit an objective and he wrote in so many codes so who knows.  in my opinion he was like orwell and tried to tell us the crap they were planning, but knew if it was too obvious he would get smacked.  all he did was blow the whistle on plans as if you or i blew the whistle on pike 200 years ago.  i mean he planned a lot of the shit happening today.  so again it is more of what their plans are.  also he was very specific to say this stuff can be averted if we all work together against these insane plans.

as far as the ATS board, sorry, i have found so much disinfo crap there it is not even funny.

there is so much logical and scientific data on whatever is happening.  if we stick with it we may find the truth and keep enough credibility to warn others.

I am not a believer in numerology (I believe satanic f**ks in our gov are, so we kinda sorta keep an eye on it).   Agreed.

Nostradamus ties into many of the book of revelation type prophesy. I used to be very interested in this way of looking at things. However as you mention, you wind up chasing your tail on almost everything.

Based in truth, if we can call MSM reports such, is the way to go. There is no shortage of information streaming over the wires on this one and prophesy isn't needed. The Hollywood MSM is gearing up for a big show next week I am sure.

[orangeblue]

Everyone is getting way too paranoid over nothing!

Just to let you know, these gloves are making it too tough to type a longer message.

Sorry.

[Optimus]

OK gonna go Nostradamus on ya:

Century 2, Quatrain 46

After a great misery for mankind an even greater approaches.
The great cycle of the centuries is renewed:
It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease.
In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a tail of sparks.

Century 1, Quatrain 16
Saturn joined with (Scorpio) transiting toward Sagittarius,
At its highest ascendant,
Pest, Famine, Death through military hand,
The century as well as the Age approaches its renewal.

Century 6, Quatrain 97
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city [New York City lies between 40-45 degrees]
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans [French].

and this thread over at abovetopsecret

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread334462/pg1

Has anyone seen the movie "Cloverfield" where this gigantic monster destroys NYC? Last paragraph of the plot summary: The tape then cuts to footage recorded during Rob and Beth's Coney Island date several weeks prior to the incident. As they talk on a ferris wheel, a distant object can be seen falling into the sea. The credits are shown, and a short radio transmission plays.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield#Plot_summary

This movie just came out in theaters last month!

[Dig]

Everyone is getting way too paranoid over nothing!

Just to let you know, these gloves are making it too tough to type a longer message.

Sorry.

NICE!

[PatriotX]

Yeah.  We are probably overly hyped and paranoid, but you never know.  Thus the tracking of trends here and what the implications might be....


Patriot X

(putting SCBA gear down....)

[setmefree]

I saw cloverfield but I totally missed whatever you saw in the background.  How long is Bush supposed to be gone?

[Dig]

Another reason I question the Nostradamus analysis, the ones controlling the analysis have an agenda...

The movie "The man who saw tomorrow" was narrated by the same Rockefeller f**khead that did the "war of the worlds" false flag alien invasion market analysis.  The Rockefeller foundation did this "test run" to better understand how easy it would be to fool us all into a state of panic and manipulation through accepted communication tools.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081109/

Owl, all seeing eyes

[StemCell]

Could be nothing, but sure seems strange. Can't hurt to watch it closely even if it turns out to be nothing.

[PatriotX]

I think I am more concerned about the missle "missing" its target.

But I do think the timing is interesting with the Pakistan elections upcoming (18 February) and all....

That and the similiarity to Flight 93 being Satellite "193".....


Patriot X

[rphope]

 

[setmefree]

 

awwwww! Chicken little!

[setmefree]

That link doesn't work anymore to watch the satellite.  Is there another one?

[rphope]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_193

USA 193, also known as NRO launch 21 (NROL-21 or simply L-21) is an American military spy satellite. Owned by the National Reconnaissance Office, the craft's precise function and purpose are classified. This was the first launch conducted under contract to the United Launch Alliance.

[Dig]

well it is not nothing, and it is not armageddon.  it is our self imposed responsibility to find out what it actually is.

personally I do not like nuke satellites being prevented from dropping to earth by semi tested space war strategies.

but then again i do not like nuke satellites dropping to earth either

but above both of these, i do not like a secret government and a NAZI space program telling us to trust them when they are setting the stage for one of their planned false flag operations.  please make sure to read the following post entirely, especially the last sentence written by PNAC!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=27049.msg107132#msg107132

NAZI/NASA "scientists" have been planning these scenarios to use against us for over 50 years!

[StemCell]

 

Thats going to be about the depth of CNN's coverage.

[rphope]

Vandenberg successfully launches Delta II
by Airman 1st Class Erica Stewart
30th Space Wing Public Affairs

12/19/2006 - VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFPN) -- Vandenberg AFB officials successfully launched a Delta II rocket carrying a National Reconnaissance Office payload from Space Launch Complex-2 at 1 p.m. Dec. 14 here.

The Delta II, a 125.75-foot expendable launch, medium-lift vehicle, launches civil and commercial payloads into low-earth, polar, geosynchronous transfer and stationary orbits.

"(This) successful launch was accomplished from the outstanding teamwork from all organizations to include the 30th Space Wing, Space and Missile Systems Center, NRO, and recently named United Launch Alliance," said Col. Jack Weinstein, 30th SW commander.

"Vandenberg ensures national security with each executed launch, continuously proving that no one does it better," he said.

"The perfect orbit insertion we achieved is a testament to the hard work and dedication of the professional Airmen of the 30th Space Wing," said Lt. Col. David Goldstein, commander of the 4th Space Launch Squadron. "The 4th SLS along with the 30th Launch Support Squadron and the Aerospace corporation conducted launch base mission assurance guaranteeing 100 percent mission success and we delivered; the satellite launched will provide invaluable intelligence data to support the war on terrorism."

The next United Launch Alliance mission from Vandenberg AFB will be an Atlas V in the spring.

[setmefree]

So there might not be anything at all wrong with the satellite?  But they want to blow it up?  Are there any articles when this thing was launched to atest to something going wrong with it or is this something they just came up with recently?

[rphope]

This from here - http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Jan-2008/0205.html

Hmm.

> could contain hazardous materials

> no sign of solar panels

Combined, those tweaked some synapses:

http://www.space.com/news/nasa_plutonium_020724.html

National Security Needs Cut Into NASAs Plutonium Inventory



Wild speculation.

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