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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2008, 10:22:38 PM »
This out of Italy

US SATELLITE: MARCH 6 IMPACT-DAY IF NOT DESTROYED
http://www.agi.it/world/news/200802151832-cro-ren0084-art.html

(AGI) - Geneva, Feb. 15 - The Pentagon wants to destroy the spy satellite that went out of control, if the operation is not successful the device will enter the atmosphere on March 6.
  This was announced by Christina Rocca, U.S. ambassador at the permanent Conference on Disarmament in Geneva, specifying that the satellite will come down between "58.5 degrees north and 58.5 degrees south in latitude". This covers half the planet, from the European border with Russia to the part of the Pacific Ocean between New Zealand and the Antarctic, including China, India and Australia. Rocca explained that if the USA don't succeed in destroying the device, Washington is ready to "offer assistance to all (involved) governments to reduce the consequences of the impact". President George W. Bush yesterday ordered the destruction of the spy satellite "L-21" using a missile launched from a battle cruiser of the U.S. Navy.
  "L-21", launched in December 2006, went out of control immediately after launch. It is the size of a small bus and weighs 9 tonnes, it still contains a consistent quantity of hydrazine, a highly toxic fuel, which could also explode on impact.

OMG, will come down between "58.5 degrees north and 58.5 degrees south in latitude". Thats like the entire North and south Hemisphere. So are they saying it threatens every continent in the world????

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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2008, 10:25:23 PM »
Though not as dangerous as Beryllium, Hydrazine:

Hydrazine is highly toxic and dangerously unstable, especially in the anhydrous form. Symptoms of acute exposure to high levels of hydrazine in humans may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma, and it can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system. The liquid is corrosive and may produce dermatitis from skin contact in humans and animals. Effects to the lungs, liver, spleen, and thyroid have been reported in animals chronically exposed to hydrazine via inhalation. Increased incidences of lung, nasal cavity, and liver tumors have been observed in rodents exposed to hydrazine.
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2008, 10:26:34 PM »
OMG, will come down between "58.5 degrees north and 58.5 degrees south in latitude". Thats like the entire North and south Hemisphere. So are they saying it threatens every continent in the world????

What I think is there will be 2 false flags, one on the shoot down day and one the impact day.
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2008, 10:27:34 PM »
WHERE is Cheney, Rice, and crew? If they're out of the country, we know something's up.

Bush took Rice with him.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200802150529.html
To bolster support for Annan, President Bush announced that he is sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer to Nairobi February 18 to meet with Annan and Kenyan leaders. Bush said Rice will urge an immediate end to ongoing violence.

Cheney? Probably in a bunker under NORAD.
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« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2008, 10:29:43 PM »

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=227999

US vows to pay for satellite damage
Saturday Feb 16 06:32 AEDT

The US has pledged to compensate countries if debris lands on their territory from a dying US spy satellite that the Pentagon plans to shoot down.

US Ambassador Christina Rocca said that if efforts fail to strike the satellite with a missile while it is still in space, it was expected to make an "uncontrolled re-entry into the earth's atmosphere on or about March 6".

The satellite is carrying more than 450 kilograms of hydrazine fuel, and could release much of it as a toxic gas, Deputy US National Security Adviser James Jeffrey said.

"Whether the engagement succeeds or fails, the US is prepared to offer assistance to governments to mitigate the consequences of any satellite debris impacts on their territory," Rocca told the Conference on Disarmament being held in Geneva.

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This was in keeping with a 1972 treaty on international liability for damage caused by space objects, which the US has ratified, she said.

US officials said President George W Bush had decided to have the navy shoot the 2,270-kilogram satellite with a modified tactical missile after security advisers suggested its re-entry could lead to a loss of life.

Rocca told the 65-member state forum the timing of the strike would be chosen to "maximise the chance of hitting the fuel tank and to ensure the resulting debris will re-enter quickly and thus not pose a danger to satellites and peaceful space operations".

Washington would seek to minimise the chances that any debris re-entering the atmosphere could hit a populated area.
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« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2008, 10:30:28 PM »
Dont forget this today :
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26994.msg106708#msg106708

Nice. Pentagon reveals plans to shoot down spy satellite over Ireland. All governements getting in on the fun?

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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2008, 10:30:41 PM »
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Hydrazine is highly toxic and dangerously unstable, especially in the anhydrous form. Symptoms of acute exposure to high levels of hydrazine in humans may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma, and it can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system. The liquid is corrosive and may produce dermatitis from skin contact in humans and animals. Effects to the lungs, liver, spleen, and thyroid have been reported in animals chronically exposed to hydrazine via inhalation. Increased incidences of lung, nasal cavity, and liver tumors have been observed in rodents exposed to hydrazine.

Lovely. Just lovely.  

You know, NASA can send a probe to meet a comet, which launches a probe that hits said comet. They described it as (paraphrasing) "firing a bullet at a bullet from a bullet, and hitting your target."  Hitting this satellite with a rocket is child's play compared to that. If they miss we'll know instantly that this is staged.

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« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2008, 10:31:13 PM »
Also, forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm in no way a scientist, but isn't there a chance that the satellite would just break up into tiny pieces and it's contents evaporate in the atmosphere upon re-entry?

Why the hype? I don't think we're getting the full story.
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« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2008, 10:32:45 PM »
Is it me or is there just way too much info about this all over the place? Something smells very very bad. I have never seen so much mass information on any subject in such a short period of time coming from the US government.

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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2008, 10:32:49 PM »
Entourage - HBO just showed a nuclear cloud type explosion.  The explosion was not meant to be nuclear, but it was a perfect firey mushroom explosion.

c'mon cut the shit!!!!!


what the f**k is wrong with our government?


we spend billions on NASA and they have no idea where a nuke satellite is going to land?


you cannot make this shit up, we know where apollo 13 was going to land and that was 38 years ago!
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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2008, 10:35:36 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/15/spy.satellite/index.html

Attempt to shoot down spy satellite to cost up to $60 million

Story Highlights
Navy to shoot down a potentially hazardous satellite with anti-missile missile

Pentagon official: The missile alone costs almost $10 million

Super-secret spy satellite malfunctioned just after launch, has full fuel tank

Fuel tank likely to survive re-entry and disperse harmful, potentially deadly fumes

No attempt will be made to shoot down the satellite until after the U.S. space shuttle lands next Wednesday.

"The window will open when the shuttle is on the ground," Ham said.



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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2008, 10:37:21 PM »
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Also, forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm in no way a scientist, but isn't there a chance that the satellite would just break up into tiny pieces and it's contents evaporate in the atmosphere upon re-entry?

Not nessecarily... it depends on the trajectory (angle it enters the atmosphere) and it's general shape/size/mass/density/resistance to high temperatures.  If it comes more or less straight down, it probably won't break up.  If it enters at a shallow angle (like the shuttle that broke up did) it's likely to break up.  

A possible explanation for an "accidental" crash is that a glancing blow with their rocket sent it on a steep descent, precluding the possibility of a breakup.

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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2008, 10:40:57 PM »
THis movie shows a false flag nuke attack and "missed" attempt at using a new space weapon.

the "missed" test would launch a nuke war with all the secret government protected.

it was released as a comedy fiction, but many of the issues were real then (23 years ago) and are real now.  There are 10 minutes before and after this part that are the most important.  If anyone knows where it can be found, please post it.  the movie was made in 1985 (during the Reagan Star Wars project.)

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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2008, 10:43:04 PM »
false flag nuke, false flag bio-toxic air attack.

who checks satellites to make sure they are not going to kill us BEFORE we put them in space?

Who got fired over this issue?

Who is auditing NASA?
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« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2008, 10:44:56 PM »
false flag nuke, false flag bio-toxic air attack.

who checks satellites to make sure they are not going to kill us BEFORE we put them in space?

Who got fired over this issue?

Who is auditing NASA?

Don't you know, Sane? It was those damn terrorists and their futuristic space beams.
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« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2008, 10:47:03 PM »
Don't you know, Sane? It was those damn terrorists and their futuristic space beams.

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« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2008, 10:48:48 PM »
I'm sure it won't be long before Khan sends a tape to the White House.
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« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2008, 10:50:10 PM »
Aron Ranen's Interview with Ex-Nazi Rocket & NASA Scientist
2 min - Jun 18, 2006 -  (4 ratings)
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Interview with Nazi Rocket Scientist, turned NASA Scientist from Aron...
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Interview with Slave who worked for NASA/Nazi scientists
3 min - Jun 18, 2006 -  (10 ratings)
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Aron Ranen's DID WE GO? -Documentary explores Moon Hoax Pt.2
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NASA's Nazis
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/nasa-nazis.html

In light of the U.S. government's decisions to deport Karl Linnas and to bar Kurt Waldheim, NASA's veneration of Nazi old-timers deserves renewed scrutiny. In 1969, NASA's Distinguished Service Award went to Arthur Rudolph for his work as project director of the Saturn V moon rocket. When he left the country in 1984 rather than face charges as a Nazi war criminal, Rudolph and the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations signed an agreement. That agreement, which I made public in a television documentary carried over Cable News Network in March of last year, says nothing about the NASA award. "Any contention that the agreement with Rudolph bars the government from revoking his medals is utter nonsense," said Eli Rosenbaum, who negotiated the agreement for the O.S.I.

After Rudolph left the United States, there were immediate protests that NASA should take away the award. Elizabeth Holtzman, who drafted the law allowing the government to deport Nazis, wrote in a telegram to Reagan, "It is a disgrace for an American medal to remain in the hands of this bestial killer." In 1985, Representative Bill Green introduced a bill to force NASA to rescind the award. But during a NASA appropriations hearing that year, the agency's general counsel, S. Neil Hosenball, misled Green into believing that the O.S.I. agreement protected the award, and Green abandoned the effort. Recently Green saw the agreement for the first time and realized that "it clearly does not protect Rudolph's distinguished science award as I had been led to believe by the NASA general counsel's testimony." He is now reintroducing his bill.

Meanwhile, NASA has developed no more sensitivity to this issue. On March 23 the agency held a Wernher von Braun birthday reception at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, honoring eighty-three old timers. Two of those-Dieter Grau and Guenther Haukohl-- are under active investigation by the Justice Department's Nazi-hunting unit, as I revealed on CNN over a year ago.

Fortunately, U.S. taxpayers did not pay for this reunion; the $730.45 spent on refreshments, photography and a bus were "nonappropriated funds" from employees' vending machine purchases, according to NASA's April 20 response to my F.O.I.A. request. However, The Birmingham News reported that the space center's director, James Thompson, vowed to make the von Braun celebration an annual event and urged current NASA employees to ''rub elbows with these old guys--maybe some of their experience will rub off on us."

Presumably, that "experience" will exclude their wartime activities. Von Braun's own admissions in U.S. Army records show that the man NASA touts as a hero was an S.S. major who frequently visited the underground rocket factory where a black American flyer and 25,000 other prisoners from the concentration camp Dora died. During one visit, according to documents shown on CNN, von Braun attended a meeting that discussed rounding up citizens off the streets of France to be brought to Dora.

NASA spokesman Bob Lessels said Rudolph was not invited to the von Braun party. Just in case Rudolph is asked to attend future events, Representative Green is sending a letter to NASA and to the Attorney General saying, "Rudolph should not be permitted to enter the U.S. for a NASA reunion or any other purpose." And O.S.I. director Neal Sher told me last year that Rudolph "is on watch lists; he cannot get a visa; and if he were found in the United States, he would be subject to arrest."

When people learn that I cover stories on Nazis, they often ask if I know of groups supporting "nests" of Nazis in America, than react with surprise when my immediate answer is, "Yes, the Federal government." NASA should clean up this nest--soon.

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« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2008, 10:56:36 PM »
Saying that something costs 60 or 10 million dollars implies that someone is selling this "thing" for 60 or 10 million dollars. Ridiculous. The government should check into eBay... :P

Also, is this nuke-satellite-homing missile object named "US 193" as stated in the first post or is it "L-21" as stated by other sources in this thread. And is this a simple issue of misstated names by accident or are these two separate (currently) celestial entities?
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« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2008, 10:57:08 PM »
Oh great, with all this info, the government can say oops, our nuclear tipped missle missed the satellite and its heading towards Calif./Nevada-as for the satellite, its heading towards the Chicago area-A national state of emergency and Marshall law has been declared by king Cheney....errr President Bush.......Don't like how this is sounding, but we should all take Sane's suggestion and spread the word to EVERY forum possible.....just in case! ;)

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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2008, 11:30:12 PM »
Remember Bush and Rice are out of the country. Senate and House are on Vacation. We can only presume that Cheney is running the show next week, all alone! That enough is cause for panic.

A month ago this was a non-issue. Dont panic they say. Very interesting article from 1 month ago.

Falling Spy Sat: Don't Panic

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/01/everyone-is-fre.html

"Robert Connell" is the pseudonym for a former Air Force office who spent in nearly a decade in the service's space and missile corps.  This is his first post for DANGER ROOM.
Everyone is freaking out, over this "spy satellite" that's re-entering the atmosphere.  But the chances of there being any danger to people is pretty darn minuscule.  178 tracked objects re-entered the Earth's atmosphere last year.



The worst-case scenario is one where an object with radioactive materials re-enters.  This happened back in January 1978 when the Russian COSMOS 954 satellite re-entered over Canada and left a radioactive debris field strewn across a (thankfully) sparsely populated area.  But since then, a whole set of procedures have been put in place to cope with threats from above.


For everyone one of these objects, the military's Joint Space Operations Center (JSpOC) predicts where it will impact the ground and notifies military leadership and in turn civilian leadership.  If it will impact over the United States or Canada, NORAD is notified along with FEMA and its Canadian equivalent.  Risks are assessed and emergency plans are made if there is even the slightest chance of danger

Now the question is, should there be concern over this particular object?  The answer is maybe, but probably not.  Yes, it is re-entering in an uncontrolled manner when normally this type of satellite would be intentionally destroyed over the ocean far from prying eyes.  The only reason that this particular object (and for that matter any satellite) would pose significant threat would be if it contained a radioactive power supply, such as the Snap series.  There has been some discussion on the amateur mailing list over whether or not this satellite has such a power supply.  Some have indicated that since solar panels can’t be seen it might indeed use one.  Others have responded that since the satellite went into safe mode shortly after launch, the solar panels might not have deployed and that could be the reason for their absence.  And in either case, there is evidence (and significant incentive) for the US to have secured any radioactive material within a protective shell that could survive re-entry, if only to keep the materials from falling into the wrong hands.


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« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2008, 11:32:00 PM »
Rocket Carrying Spy Payload Has Problems
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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - A rocket carrying an intelligence-gathering payload for the Pentagon suffered a technical problem after its launch, officials said. But they were confident Saturday that its secretive mission would be performed.

The Atlas V rocket launched Friday morning, hauling a payload from the National Reconnaissance Office, a division of the Department of Defense that builds and operates spy satellites.

The NRO said Friday night that the launch was successful, but the rocket's Centaur upper stage later had a "technical anomaly which resulted in minor performance degradation."

Rick Oborn, an NRO spokesman, said Saturday there was a slight but manageable problem. Officials did not elaborate and have not said exactly what the rocket was carrying or how it would be used.

"We're confident we're going to perform our mission," Oborn said. When asked if replacement launches would be needed, Oborn said: "If you've got something that's working why do you need a replacement?"

According to United Launch Alliance - the new partnership between Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co. that was responsible for launching the rocket - the payload will monitor the globe "for early warning of potential trouble spots, compliance with international agreements of all kinds, and changing environmental conditions."

Much of the information typically available for launches was being kept secret because of national security concerns.

Oborn referred further questions to United Launch Alliance.

An engineering review to study what went wrong began Friday, said United Launch Alliance spokeswoman Julie C. Andrews.

"It'll be a very thorough review as always," she said. "We're just not going to speculate on what caused the anomaly."

Andrews confirmed there was a problem with the upper stage, but said "I can't discuss the orbit" at the behest of the NRO. She said both the United Launch Alliance and the client, the NRO, consider the launch a success.

The last time an Atlas V launch had a problem was in 1993, Andrews said.

Air Force space center spokesman Joe Davidson declined to comment beyond what the NRO said Friday night.
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Satellite shoot-down plan provokes concern from Russia
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Satellite_shootdown_plan_provokes_international_concern_0215.html
Michael Roston Published: Friday February 15, 2008



US government officials formally briefed the international press on Thursday regarding their plans to use a missile defense interceptor to shoot down a bus-sized spy satellite that will re-enter Earth's atmosphere in the next week. And the plan is already provoking concern in the Russian Federation.

Officials from the White House, the Pentagon, and NASA formally announced the plan to shoot down the satellite sometime in the next week by launching a missile interceptor from one of the Navy's Aegis cruisers. The three officials insisted that their efforts to inform foreign governments of the plan demonstrated that this operation was being conducted for the purposes of safety, and not to demonstrate an anti-satellite weapon capability.

"What we're doing today is to reach out to the various U.N. organizations, the U.N. headquarters itself and essentially the entire international community, through capitals, to let them know more details about the satellite coming down, and about our plan to intercept it," said James Jeffrey, the Deputy National Security Adviser, in a Thursday press conference. "And, of course, these countries may or may not have comments. They may or may not have supportive statements, and we'll see."

The Russian Federation seems to be the first government to sound off on the mission. A report in RIA Novosti, a government-linked news service, showed Russian authorities not only worrying about the implications of the launch, but questioning the publicly stated justification of preventing poisonous rocket fuel from raining down on the planet.

"Igor Barinov, first deputy chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, also expressed concern that the U.S. had made a unilateral decision to destroy the satellite," the government-linked news agency said on Friday. "He said that decisions, which could jeopardize collective security, 'should be made taking into account all parties concerned and all countries involved in space research.'"

Barinov also said he was informed by, "Russian military experts," that "the satellite could have an on board nuclear power source."

While the Thursday press briefing also sought to present a united governmental front on the planned satellite strike, other news reports seemed to hint that the order to go forward with the operation came from the top.

"Two defence officials also cited disagreement within the administration over the action and said the decision appeared to have been strongly influenced by the White House," according to a Friday morning report from Reuters.

Concerns within the government may result from the debris that will be created by the strike, and what it could do to satellites, the International Space Station, and future work in space.

The government briefers took pains in the press conference to offer assurances that little debris would remain in space from the satellite shot, saying that, "what we're attempting to do here is to intercept this just prior to it hitting the Earth's atmosphere...It reduces the amount of debris that would be in space."

But one expert on the weaponization of space questioned the safety of the plan.

"[ S]ome of the debris will remain in orbit," wrote Jeffrey Lewis of the New America Foundation at his blog Arms Control Wonk. "[ T]here would be only a 1 in 1000 chance of wiping out the [International Space Station]. Great."

And the debris-related risks posed by the operation may reinforce concerns that the real purpose of the test is to demonstrate the offensive anti-satellite capability possessed by the United States.

"Bush administration defense and national security officials involved in interagency discussions on the satellite destruction plan said one reason for using the missile defense system against a space target would be to highlight its potential as an ASAT weapon," reported the Washington Times' Bill Gertz. "The Pentagon has been discussing ways to deter and counter China's ASAT weapon, which can threaten U.S. military and civilian communications, especially command and control systems involving satellites."

China, which shot down an aging weather satellite in orbit in Jan. 2007, has been notably quiet so far regarding the US plan. A news report at the official Xinhua News Agency described the operation in a matter of fact way, and offered no comment from Chinese government officials.

After coming under heavy US criticism for the Jan. 2007 shot, the Chinese have insisted they did nothing wrong.

"The recent test conducted by China in outer space was not directed against any country," said Premier Wen Jiaobao in March 2007. It did not pose a threat to anyone, nor did it violate the relevant international treaties. China stands for the peaceful use of outer space and opposes arms race in outer space."

China and Russia have both continued to call for a treaty outlawing the use of weapons in space, which the US has opposed. And as the Boston Globe noted Friday, the two countries reiterated their calls for a treaty banning the weaponization of space days before the Pentagon operation was announced.
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« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2008, 11:37:37 PM »
QUESTION FOR EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET!

How does only one branch of our government have the authority to make a unilateral decision on dealing with a worldwide nuclear issue using a not-tested system that could spark nuclear armageddon?

How does one person have this power?


How come there are no congressional hearings before we launch a possible nuke missle to take out a possible nuke satellite over international areas?


How is this not an issue for the public?
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« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2008, 11:43:32 PM »
QUESTION FOR EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET!

How does only one branch of our government have the authority to make a unilateral decision on dealing with a worldwide nuclear issue using a not-tested system that could spark nuclear armageddon?

How does one person have this power?


How come there are no congressional hearings before we launch a possible nuke missle to take out a possible nuke satellite over international areas?


How is this not an issue for the public?

We are just suppose to drink the fluoride, watch TV and maybe look to the sky for a pretty light show. Didn't you get the memo?

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« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2008, 11:48:26 PM »
We are just suppose to drink the fluoride, watch TV and maybe look to the sky for a pretty light show. Didn't you get the memo?

ya know when you said light show I thought 2 things:

1. they are sparking project bluebeam (seems too soon though)

2. the satellite might have something to do with project bluebeam and they need to take it out (also seems unlikely, they could just track it and section off the area)

More and more it looks like an incredible opportunity for a false flag.

I say why should we permit it without a little outrage.

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« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2008, 11:55:52 PM »
Oh great, with all this info, the government can say oops, our nuclear tipped missle missed the satellite and its heading towards Calif./Nevada-as for the satellite, its heading towards the Chicago area-A national state of emergency and Marshall law has been declared by king Cheney....errr President Bush.......Don't like how this is sounding, but we should all take Sane's suggestion and spread the word to EVERY forum possible.....just in case! ;)

actually i said hit the search engines if you think it might help.  I was thinking a phrase like: "spy satellite shoot down part of false flag FEMA nuke attack"

posting on on other forums adds a credibility factor.

but since NSA/CIA/FBI/Office of Recon/Mossad/MI6/etc. are spying on "chatter" then chatter up that we know this is a possibility so maybe a lowling on the totem pole can investigate it, here or anywhere.

use their tools against them.

i do not recommend posting anything on other forums that cannot be backed up with references.  but if you wish, your choice.

anyway this was my post about it earlier.  sorry for any misunderstanding. i am not the best communicator as most of you know:

guys, everything is monitered for chatter.  I had an idea, but may be far fetched. 

Anyway here it is if you want to play along...

search the following in every search engine you can think of till they know that we know:

"spy satellite shoot down part of false flag FEMA nuke attack"

maybe then if they were planning it they can abort

if they were not, what was the cost?

anyway up to you guys, could be a long shot, but it smell like shit![/size]
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« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2008, 11:58:23 PM »
Flight 93

er Satellite (1)93 sound awful alike.....

1+9+3 = 13 is never a good sign either.


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« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2008, 12:02:33 AM »
US to try to shoot down spy satellite.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=393_1203040598

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WASHINGTON - Taking a page from Hollywood science fiction, the Pentagon said Thursday it will try to shoot down a dying, bus-sized U.S. spy satellite loaded with toxic fuel on a collision course with the Earth.

The military hopes to smash the satellite as soon as next week — just before it enters Earth's atmosphere — with a single missile fired from a Navy cruiser in the northern Pacific Ocean.

The dramatic maneuver may well trigger international concerns, and U.S. officials have begun notifying other countries of the plan — stressing that it does not signal the start of a new American anti-satellite weapons program.

Military and administration officials said the satellite is carrying fuel called hydrazine that could injure or even kill people who are near it when it hits the ground. That reason alone, they said, convinced President Bush to order the shoot-down.

"That is the only thing that breaks it out, that is worthy of taking extraordinary measures," said Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during a Pentagon briefing.

He predicted a fairly high chance — as much as 80 percent — of hitting the satellite, which will be about 150 miles up when the shot is fired. The window of opportunity for taking the satellite down, Cartwright said, opens in three or four days and lasts for about seven or eight days.

"We'll take one shot and assess," he said. "This is the first time we've used a tactical missile to engage a spacecraft."

Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffrey discounted comparisons to an anti-satellite test conducted by the Chinese last year that triggered criticism from the U.S. and other countries.

"This is all about trying to reduce the danger to human beings," Jeffrey said. "Specifically, there was enough of a risk for the president to be quite concerned about human life."

There might also be unstated military aims, some outside the administration suggested.

Similar spacecraft re-enter the atmosphere regularly and break up into pieces, said Ivan Oelrich, vice president for strategic security programs at the Federation of American Scientists. He said, "One could be forgiven for asking if this is just an excuse to test an anti-satellite weapon."
A key issue when China shot down its defunct weather satellite was that it created an enormous amount of space debris.

"All of the debris from this encounter, as carefully designed as it is, will be down at most within weeks, and most of it will be down within the first couple of orbits afterward," said Jeffrey. "There's an enormous difference to spacefaring nations in ... those two things."

He and others dismissed suggestions that this was simply an attempt by the U.S. to flex its muscles, and that officials were overstating the toxic fuel threat.

Left alone, the satellite would be expected to hit Earth during the first week of March. About half of the 5,000-pound spacecraft would be expected to survive its blazing descent through the atmosphere and would scatter debris over several hundred miles.

If the missile shot is successful, officials said, much of the debris would burn up as it fell. They said they could not estimate how much would make it through the atmosphere. They said the largest piece that would survive re-entry would be the spherical fuel tank, which is about 40 inches wide — assuming it is not hit directly by the missile.

The goal, however, is to hit the fuel tank in order to minimize the amount of fuel that returns to Earth, Cartwright said.

A Navy missile known as Standard Missile 3 would be fired at the spy satellite in an attempt to intercept it just before it re-enters Earth's atmosphere. It would be "next to impossible" to hit the satellite after that because of atmospheric disturbances, he said.

Known by its military designation US 193, the satellite was launched in December 2006. It lost power and its central computer failed almost immediately afterward, leaving it uncontrollable. It carried a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor.

Software associated with the Standard Missile 3 has been modified to enhance the chances of the missile's sensors recognizing that the satellite is its target. The missile's designed mission is to shoot down ballistic missiles, not satellites. Other officials said the missile's maximum range, while a classified figure, is not great enough to hit a satellite operating in normal orbits.

"It's a one-time deal," Cartwright said when asked whether the modified Standard Missile 3 should be considered a new U.S. anti-satellite technology.

He said that if an initial shoot-down attempt fails, the military would have about two days to reassess and decide whether to take a second shot.


NASA Administrator Michael Griffin told reporters that analysis shows the hydrazine tank would survive a fall to Earth under normal circumstances, much as one did when the Space Shuttle Columbia crashed.

"The hydrazine which is in it is frozen solid, as it is now. Not all of it will melt," he said. If the tank hits the ground it will have been breached because the fuel lines will have broken off and hydrazine will vent out, he said.

Jeffrey said members of Congress were briefed on the plan earlier Thursday and that diplomatic notifications to other countries were being made by the end of the day.

"It should be understood by all, at home and abroad, that this is an exceptional circumstance and should not be perceived as the standard U.S. policy for dealing with errant satellites," said House Armed Services Chairman Ike Skelton.

Sounds kinda like Armageddon to me.(The movie)

 
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2008, 12:03:42 AM »
Maybe they can wait till the trajectory goes over the upcoming elections in Pakistan and really get things rolling....


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« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2008, 12:04:54 AM »
Monday, December 10, 2007
Hidden Nuke, Crashed Satellite
http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/2007/12/hidden-nuke-crashed-satellite.html


The accompanying links comprise a (non-exhaustive) quasi-chronological sequence starting with one published four days before the notorious flight of a B-52 carrying six nuclear-armed cruise missiles on 30 August 2007 from Minot AFB in Iowa to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. The link below shows that persons with advance knowledge of a stock-market-crashing event were poised to profit from a crash of 30% or more by September 21st ...and lost about $1 billion when it didn’t happen.

http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/08/45b-bet-on-another-911-within-4-weeks.html


My first awareness of the B-52 event itself was via an internet publication forwarded with obvious trepidation by Jeff Latas (link below). I include Jeff’s cover e-mail because of his credibility. He is a highly decorated F-15 pilot of the first Gulf War and a former President of U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board.

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/dlgriscom/Someone_Stole_a_Nuke


There were at least three Washington Post articles on the B-52 event (links below). The third one below reveals that high-level military officers have been cashiered, and some may yet be court marshaled, for their parts in allowing those warheads to be air transported in direct violation of long-standing rules and virtually unbreakable safeguards. This is very different response than in the wake of 9/11, when the commander of NORAD wasn’t even given a rap on the knuckles for prearranging for the nation's capital to be totally without an air defense on that fateful morning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/22/AR2007092201447.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/22/AR2007092201447.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/19/AR2007101901590.html

Translated: The military high command apparently tolerated the propagation of the myth of 9/11 being the work of 19 incompetent Arabs led by one hiding in a distant cave; but this time they have “drawn the line” against allowing a false-flag attack with a nuclear weapon to occur against Iran ...or on U.S. soil (either of which would crash the financial markets for sure).

The following link notes the subsequent deaths of six servicemen who took part in the mission at Minot AFB, which I suspect means that these six (and likely others) sacrificed their lives to thwart what was likely to have been a false-flag nuclear attack ...which, if on American soil, would have been the trigger for marshal law and cancellation elections, in addition to crashing the financial markets and sending the dollar the way of the peso.

http://rabbiseinfeld.blogspot.com/2007/10/empty-quiver.html


I find the first link below this paragraph to be a very plausible analysis (despite the errors I will mention below) by a woman who writes in Moscow for the newspaper Pravda. The second link is a western report of the same impact in Peru that Pravda reporter Sorcha Faal attributes to a crashed KH-13 satellite. This link, appearing eight day’s later than Faal’s column, asserts that “Conspiracy theorists will be disappointed” with what the article purports to be the real story: A meteorite done it. Oh, really?

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/97410-american_spy_satellite-0
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12704-report-clarifies-some--but-not-all--details-of-peru-impact.html


Here is the way I approached the “crashed satellite” hypothesis: The orbit of the KH-13 satellite is officially secret, so it can’t be found on the internet (although Russian Military Intelligence surely knows where it is ...or was). So I looked up earlier-vintage satellites of the same series on the Union of Concerned Scientists Data Base:

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/space_weapons/satellite_database.html

I found that 4 of the 5 “Keyhole” satellites (all of them advanced KH-11s or KH-12s) are in sun-synchronized near-polar orbits that on passing the North Pole move westward with the sun during their 50-minute trips to the vicinity of the South Pole. Thus, if the KH-13 had such an orbit and was de-orbited during a north-to-south pass over northern South America it could easily have impacted at Carrancas, Peru, following essentially the same trajectory as reported by eyewitnesses on September 15th (third figure in the last link in the previous paragraph).

Sorcha Faal went on to assert that “...Americans themselves ...destroyed their own spy satellite with the attack upon it being made by the United States Air Forces' 30th Space Wing located at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.” This wording to me implies an anti-satellite (ASAT) missile attack, but that simply could not have been the case, since a kinetic-energy ASAT strike on a satellite this large would have instantly doubled the debris in low-Earth orbits (LEO), putting all the rest of our satellites at risk and angering all of the world’s governments who have satellites in LEO (Physics Today, October 2007, p. 35). Since we haven’t heard a peep from a single foreign government, this could NOT have happened. However, all satellites of this size have means of being de-orbited. Indeed, the Keyhole satellites have a propulsion system for changing orbits, which almost certainly would be used in the event the de-orbit command is given.

O.K., now suppose that KH-13 was de-orbited (rather than blown to smithereens in space) by U.S. military officers who absolutely did not want it to be used for an attack against Iran. Assuming it shared the same mass as a KH-12, we’d have a reentry package of dry mass 10,000 kg plus up to 8,000 kg of rocket fuel aboard. The fuel would burn, thus accounting for the daytime visibility of the object that created the crater in Peru. Indeed, the reported light emission at such a low altitude is absolutely incompatible with what is known about meteorites of this size. Otherwise, the diameter of the Carrancas crater was misstated by Sorcha Faal as 30 meters, whereas the actually measured crater dimensions were given as 13.3 by 13.8 meters (given in earlier links). And Faal’s claimed impact-energy release of 1 KiloTon of TNT is over a thousand times too large (vide infra).

I did my own calculations by means of a web-based impact-crater calculator:

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/

For input parameters, I used 7.5 km/second for the orbital speed (typical of LEO satellites), 30 degrees for the impact angle, and for the material density of the impactor I used that of solid iron, because the calculator insists that all stony meteorites 10,000 kg or smaller always disintegrate in the upper atmosphere and therefore never impact the earth (except as small pieces). I then varied the projectile diameter until I succeeded in calculating a 13.8 m diameter crater (assumed into sedimentary rock, as evident from the Peruvian altiplano impact site). The calculator noted that that 99.9% of the initial kinetic energy would have been dissipated in the atmosphere, leaving the energy equivalent of less than ½ Ton of TNT to excavate the crater. But the most important result was that the 0.99-meter-diameter pure-iron projectile that gave the correct crater diameter yielded the sought-after mass of the impacting object, that is, 3,050 kg – or about 30% of the dry mass of a Keyhole satellite. This seems like a reasonable number, since many exterior parts would have been aerodynamically ripped off and widely scattered.

The Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators used in deep-space probes and military satellites (including KH-12) typically employ the Pu-238 as the oxide PuO2. While insoluble in water, PuO2 powder could become airborne in the event of a violent explosion (which this impact certainly was). If so, it would have sickened (and probably will kill) anyone who ingesting even a small amount. This could explain reports of as many as 200 local villagers near the impact site becoming ill with “headaches, eye problems, irritated skin, nausea and vomiting” ...even though their complaints were summarily dismissed as “mass hysteria” (earlier link). No follow-up medical reports have surfaced since the initial reporting. This could this be because it really was mass hysteria ...or because of a rigorously enforced cover up?

I have no idea how much Pu-238 is onboard such satellites as a power source. However, the decay heat of Pu-238 is 0.56 W/g; so, for example, a one kilowatt source would require just 1.8 kg of this extremely radioactive material (half-life 88 years). This amount of Pu-238 might account for reports boiling water in the crater (links above). On the other hand, if it actually was the KH-13 satellite and its fuel continued to burn all the way to the impact point, heated metal parts could have boiled the water for a brief time. In any event, all impact-crater experts would agree that boiling water in the crater doesn’t make any sense if the impactor was a meteorite, because ones of this size always arrive from outer space “stone cold.”


The link below explains why a full-scale air attack on Iran would provoke Iranian retaliation with modern Mach-2.5 “Sunburn” and “Yakhonts” anti-ship missiles which, as already proved in a recent U.S. war game, are virtually certain to sink the entire U.S. Fifth Fleet! And the neocons seem to be good with that ...because they are growing desperate for yet another Pearl Harbor. (The God damned traitorous bastards!!!)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18687.htm

Unfortunately, it remains very likely that one of those nuclear-armed AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles from Minot actually WAS stolen. The initial reports from Barksdale were that only 5 of the original 6 missiles arrived there. Then there is the fact that the obvious reason for downing the KH-13 would be to prevent its imminent use for targeting the purloined AGM-129 against Iran. (Remember, the Peruvian impact was September 15th and the limit on the $4.5 billion options bet was September 21st.)

I sincerely hope that the publicity given the B-52 incident will prevent the use of the stolen warhead on American soil! Of course, the one person who still retains the motive, means, and opportunity to circumvent the sophisticated multi-layer security system protecting our nuclear weapons is the insane Dick Cheney. Fortunately, however, enough of our high-ranking military officers are sane and know who the real threat is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071115/cm_uc_crjcox/op_454396
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Part 2 of this analysis: why we are in the iraq war, deals with the excuse for testing space weapons:



Another key reason for the war was to test out the new “integrated” war fighting capability that advances in space technology provide. “We talk about Desert Storm being the first ‘space war,’ but I’d call this the first real space war – where we have truly integrated ‘space’ throughout the battle space, in ways we’ve never been able to do before,” says Brig. Gen Larry Jones, commander of the 50th Space Wing at Schriever AFB. Colorado.

Never before had space systems been used so widely and continuously for combat support in a war. Hundreds of soldiers sat at computer monitors and giant screens showing every ship, tank and aircraft in the Iraqi theater. Over 50 satellites, controlled primarily out of Colorado Springs and Denver, orchestrated the entire battle.

The Air Force’s Milstar satellite system was instrumental in controlling the Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), directing the Navy Tomahawk cruise missiles to their targets, and coordinating clandestine communications for Special Forces on the ground. Overall, there were more than 1,000 inter-operable Milstar computer terminals being used, many of them in Iraq. “Fighting units…are starting to coalesce around these capabilities. As they exploit all the capacity we have in space systems, the incremental gain in combat effectiveness is huge,” says one U.S. Iraq war commander.

Like the 1991 Persian Gulf war, this current Iraq war allowed for the real-time testing of new weapons systems. The super-secret Lockheed Martin Skunk Works in California built and tested a new UAV called DarkStar. The super stealthy pilot-less plane gave the U.S. the capability to “dwell” over a target area for several hours at a time.

Pentagon analysts are already digesting all available information about how their weapons systems performed in anticipation of the “next space war.” As in the first Persian Gulf War, a controversy has erupted concerning the performance of the Patriot air defense system – part of Theatre Missile Defense (TMD). Patriot battery crews shot down two planes during the height of the war – one American Navy F-18 and a British Air Force Tornado. The response of the House of Representatives in Washington was to give the Pentagon even more money for Patriot research and development!
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« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2008, 12:13:47 AM »
The plan for shooting down a spy satellite began by assembling scientists

February 15, 2008 - 7:08 pm

By: Robert Burns, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON - Long before the public learned in late January that a damaged U.S. spy satellite carrying toxic fuel was going to crash to Earth, the government secretly assembled a high-powered team of officials and scientists.

They were drawn together to study the feasibility of shooting it down with a missile.

The order to launch the crash program came Jan. 4, according to defence officials who described Friday how it came to fruition for a final go-ahead decision by President Bush this week.

The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition they not be identified because of the sensitivity of the work.

The initial order was twofold: Assess whether shooting down the satellite with a missile was even possible and, at the same time, urgently piece together the technological tools it would take to succeed.

In a matter of weeks, three Navy warships - the USS Lake Erie, USS Decatur and USS Russell - were outfitted with modified Aegis anti-missile systems.

Their crews were trained for an unprecedented mission and three SM-3 missiles were pulled off an assembly line and given a new guidance system.

The decision to attempt a shootdown was disclosed by the Pentagon on Thursday.

On Friday, officials said it could happen next week, shortly after the space shuttle Atlantis returns from its current voyage at midweek.

Officials want the Atlantis to be home to avoid the risk of being hit with satellite debris.

Lt. Gen. Carter Ham, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at the Pentagon on Friday that it's difficult not only to hit the satellite but even to know the best time to shoot.

"It's a bit of an imprecise science at this point," Ham said.

With an eye to the possibility that the missile effort will fail, the government has placed six rescue teams across the U.S. to be prepared to act if the satellite hits the United States.

That's according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency memo dated Feb. 14 and obtained by The Associated Press.

The spacecraft contains about 500 kilograms of hydrazine in a tank that is expected to survive re-entry and a fuel tank liner made of beryllium.

FEMA has prepared a guide for emergency responders that includes information about hydrazine and beryllium.

The agency warns officials not to pick up any debris or provide mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to anyone who has inhaled hydrazine or beryllium.

The AP first reported on Jan. 26 that the U.S. satellite had lost power and was going to crash to Earth by early March.

Normally the government would simply let a dying spacecraft fall on its own, with minuscule odds that it would land in a populated area.

But, in this case, Bush was persuaded by advisers that it would be worth trying to shoot it down to reduce the risk from the on-board toxic fuel.

As a first of its kind, the shootdown scenario draws on a wide range of scientific and military technologies - from ships and radar sites in the Pacific to high-powered telescopes in Hawaii and elsewhere.

Also involved is a specially fitted Air Force plane and a Navy ship that snoops on missile tests.

To kick off the planning, the government assembled a high-security team of about 200 people - Navy scientists and missile defence experts, plus representatives of defence contractors.

They came from Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, as well as scientists from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory. Lockheed is the manufacturer of the Aegis system and Raytheon makes the SM-3 missile.

The Lake Erie, a destroyer that has participated in a dozen mostly successful tests to intercept a mock enemy missile in flight over the past six years, would take the first shot at the satellite.

It will be made at a distance just beyond the reach of Earth's atmosphere.

The SM-3 missile aboard the Lake Erie is equipped with a heat-seeking sensor that has been modified in order to enable it to zero in on the satellite, whose heat "signature" is smaller than that of a ballistic missile in flight.

The SM-3 costs $9.5 million, not counting its one-of-a-kind modifications.

It is designed to destroy its target not by detonating an explosive nearby but by slamming directly into the satellite at high speed.

Publicly, officials have expressed confidence that they will succeed in the intercept.

Privately, some say there is a rising sense of anxiety, although the consequences of failure are not what they would be in war.

If the missile misses, the bus-sized satellite will tumble to Earth on its own, with very small odds that the on-board tank of hydrazine will harm any humans.

David Wright, a senior scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said in an interview Friday he would put the odds of a successful intercept at no better than 50 per cent.

He expressed concern that debris from a successful strike could harm the other objects in relatively low orbit.

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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2008, 12:15:03 AM »
RUSSIANS BELIEVE IT MAYBE NUCLEAR POWERED!!!

Duma Members Slam U.S. Plan to Shoot Down Satellite
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MOSCOW. Feb 15 (Interfax) - A senior State Duma member has expressed fear that a U.S. satellite that has gone out of control and is to be shot down by the United States will fall on Russian territory.

"The re-entry trajectory of this satellite is unclear, but there is a chance it may fall on Russian territory. This may explain why the Americans have decided to use their missile defense systems based on a sea destroyer to shoot down the satellite," Igor Barinov, deputy chairman of the Duma's Defense Committee, told reporters.

"These actions by the Americans may damage the collective security system. All countries must have their opinions taken into account in making decisions of this kind," he said.

"If that is the Americans' response to last year's move by China, which shot down its meteorological satellite that had gone out of order and if this decision is designed to demonstrate American strength, it may lead to a new wave of escalations in the military sphere," Barinov said.

The Russian Defense Ministry is monitoring the U.S. satellite's descent but its trajectory "is so far unclear," Barinov said.

"According to the results of an analysis by our military, it is an unusual satellite. There are no visible [solar] panels on it, and this may be evidence that there is a nuclear unit on board," he said.

Earlier, the head of the Duma's International Affairs Committee, Konstantin Kosachyov, told reporters there was 4% probability that the American satellite would fall on Russian territory.
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2008, 12:18:54 AM »
You know when you think that FEMA is dispersing throughout the US, and all the government needs to say is "we hit the satellite BUT the Hydrozine tank is falling somewhere over the US Mainland. In order to provide you safe shelter you will need to follow directions from the local FEMA response teams."

I can see it now. "FEMA Evacuation Orders". Horrible!

What I am trying to say is the US Government is leaking this "classified" info to the MSM. Then you take into account they have been planning this for over a year. How would we even know if they were lying about the threat?

I keep going back to the fact that it was all known for a year now. Bush and team are out of the country. Where's Cheney? How knows. All of your posts reenforce my crazy thinking here. That's scary.

I wish Alex had been On Air these last two days. The last time I felt like this was back in August when Bush threatened that terrorists were going to nuke Washington and they all left. Alex said it was bullshit, and he was ofcourse right.

I will keep my ears and eyes on this one very closely. Like Sane said, let's raise hell on this anyway we can. It may be the only way to expose it. Keep print outs of all the major articles (there are thousand's now). We will need them should this go horribly wrong.

Bush is playing a game of I told you so, like always. This time I hope we can win the infowar.

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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2008, 12:19:10 AM »
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Looks like its headed for the US. Its going Northeast.
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« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2008, 12:20:51 AM »


Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon
http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/spacewars.html
Sixty years ago the US hired Nazi scientists to lead pioneering projects, such as the race to conquer space. These men provided the US with cutting-edge technology which still leads the way today, but at a cost.
The end of World War II saw an intense scramble for Nazi Germany's many technological secrets. The Allies vied to plunder as much equipment and expertise as possible from the rubble of the Thousand Year Reich for themselves, while preventing others from doing the same.

The range of Germany's technical achievement astounded Allied scientific intelligence experts accompanying the invading forces in 1945.

Supersonic rockets, nerve gas, jet aircraft, guided missiles, stealth technology and hardened armour were just some of the groundbreaking technologies developed in Nazi laboratories, workshops and factories, even as Germany was losing the war.

And it was the US and the Soviet Union which, in the first days of the Cold War, found themselves in a race against time to uncover Hitler's scientific secrets.

In May 1945, Stalin's legions secured the atomic research labs at the prestigious Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in the suburbs of Berlin, giving their master the kernel of what would become the vast Soviet nuclear arsenal.

US forces removed V-2 missiles from the vast Nordhausen complex, built under the Harz Mountains in central Germany, just before the Soviets took over the factory, in what would become their area of occupation. And the team which had built the V-2, led by Wernher von Braun, also fell into American hands.

Crimes

Shortly afterwards Major-General Hugh Knerr, deputy commander of the US Air Force in Europe, wrote: "Occupation of German scientific and industrial establishments has revealed the fact that we have been alarmingly backward in many fields of research.

"If we do not take the opportunity to seize the apparatus and the brains that developed it and put the combination back to work promptly, we will remain several years behind while we attempt to cover a field already exploited."

Thus began Project Paperclip, the US operation which saw von Braun and more than 700 others spirited out of Germany from under the noses of the US's allies. Its aim was simple: "To exploit German scientists for American research and to deny these intellectual resources to the Soviet Union."


Arthur Rudolph: "100% Nazi"    
Events moved rapidly. President Truman authorised Paperclip in August 1945 and, on 18 November, the first Germans reached America.

There was, though, one major problem. Truman had expressly ordered that anyone found "to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazism militarism" would be excluded.

Under this criterion even von Braun himself, the man who masterminded the Moon shots, would have been ineligible to serve the US. A member of numerous Nazi organisations, he also held rank in the SS. His initial intelligence file described him as "a security risk".

And von Braun's associates included:

Arthur Rudolph, chief operations director at Nordhausen, where 20,000 slave labourers died producing V-2 missiles. Led the team which built the Saturn V rocket. Described as "100 per cent Nazi, dangerous type". Kurt Debus, rocket launch specialist, another SS officer. His report stated: "He should be interned as a menace to the security of the Allied Forces."

Hubertus Strughold, later called "the father of space medicine", designed Nasa's on-board life-support systems. Some of his subordinates conducted human "experiments" at Dachau and Auschwitz, where inmates were frozen and put into low-pressure chambers, often dying in the process.

All of these men were cleared to work for the US, their alleged crimes covered up and their backgrounds bleached by a military which saw winning the Cold War, and not upholding justice, as its first priority.

And the paperclip which secured their new details in their personnel files gave the whole operation its name. Sixty years on, the legacy of Paperclip remains as vital as ever.

With its radar-absorbing carbon impregnated plywood skin and swept-back single wing, the 1944 Horten Ho 229 was arguably the first stealth aircraft.    


The Stealth bomber: Based on a 1944 German design


The US military made one available to Northrop Aviation, the company which would produce the $2bn B-2 Stealth bomber - to all intents and purposes a modern clone of the Horten - a generation later.

Cruise missiles are still based on the design of the V-1 missile and the scramjets powering Nasa's state-of-the-art X-43 hypersonic aircraft owe much to German jet pioneers.

Added to this, the large number of still-secret Paperclip documents has led many people, including Nick Cook, Aerospace Consultant at Jane's Defence Weekly, to speculate that the US may have developed even more advanced Nazi technology, including anti-gravity devices, a potential source of vast amounts of free energy.

Cook says that such technology "could be so destructive that it would endanger world peace and the US decided to keep it secret for a long time".

But, while celebrating the undoubted success of Project Paperclip, many will prefer to remember the thousands who died to send mankind into space. - BBC


Von Braun (third from left) in Nevada after the war. Note the swastika on the sign. He and his friends made no attempt to hide their allegiances while working on "our" space program.

Also note the shape of the sign - is this a flying saucer?    "[Werner] Von Braun was far more than just a "German rocket scientist" or a mere "Nazi". Documents obtained by TEM researchers show he was nothing less than a Major in Hitler's "SS", the fearsome and fanatically loyal arm of the Nazi war machine entrusted to carry out the most inhuman acts of the regime"

Orwell and the Internet

but what of Robert H Goddard?

[the censored reality]

German Scientist Werner von Braun Anticipated Terrorists, Asteroids and ETs on American "Enemy's List"


Werner Von Braun (second from right) and pals tour the Nazi rocket facility at Peenemünde. Between 7,000 and 20,000 slave laborers were worked to death at various German rocket facilities during the war.



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Former Nazi removed from Space Hall of Fame


Museum visitor complained after spotting name during tour

ALAMOGORDO, N.M. - MSNBC - A former Nazi scientist has been booted from the International Space Hall of Fame.

The New Mexico Museum of Space History's commission unanimously voted last week to remove Hubertus Strughold.

He had been inducted in 1978 for work in developing the spacesuit and space capsule, and contributions to space medicine.

But Strughold was also linked to experiments on prisoners in the Dachau concentration camp in his native Germany.

A museum visitor noticed Strughold's name in the hall last fall and told the New Mexico Anti-Defamation League - which then uncovered records on his past.


from one death cult to another - Aum Shinrikyo


Hideo Murai, the late Aum Shinrikyo science and technology minister, was one of the most intelligent Japanese who ever lived, with an IQ higher than Einstein's. He studied astrophysics, concentrating on X-ray detection. His field, it turns out, was the key to developing new types of weapons more powerful than nuclear bombs, which are still being developed and tested by Japan's military-industrial complex after his death. Murai's most outrageous claim was that Kobe was destroyed with laser-powered seismic weapons -- a claim many in the media scoffed. But a closer look at Murai's own research in Kobe shows that the possibility should not be discounted.

Info about Electromagnetic Weapon

The Russians have spacecraft called "COSMOSPHERES", which were originally built and used for "Starwars" defense. They are spherical in shape, INvisible to radar beyond about 50 miles away, atomic-powered [possibly Migma fUsion], electro-gravitic (can hover against gravity), and equipped with "Psycho-energetic Range Finding" (PRF) which tunes-in to the actual atomic signature of an object or target.

The 3rd-generation JUMBO Cosmospheres occupy more volume than the Hindenburg blimp, and are ELECTRO-MAGNETICALLY PROPELLED (can accelerate continuously and rapidly, and make it to Saturn in three WEEKS!). [Many of them are armed with charged-particle beam weapons, neutron beam weapons, and/or microwave brain-scrambling equipment!] - source

INFORMATION REGARDING UFOs (ALIENS)


SMALL ORBS FILMED AROUND CHEMTRAILS IDENTIFIED?

In other developments, video of small white orbs filmed near Italian chemtrails have been identified as advanced robot drones originally developed by the Italian military's 'Project Cipher'. The program, says Vincent, was sold to the US military after funding ran out in the Seventies. - Rense

In the Eye of the Galaxy

Few people around the world suspect the existence of electromagnetic weapons, and most would probably disbelieve the power, accuracy and variety of these weapons. Even the scientists and engineers at the center of the world's most powerful electronics-producing nation -- Japan -- were stunned to discover that long-range EM weapons with global reached were being secretly deployed by the superpowers. It happened by sheer accident, in February 1987.

GINGA satellite

The Japanese satellite called Ginga, or Galaxy, was launched that month in a high orbit, searching the skies for X-ray emissions from distant stars. But it also had another, secret mission -- to detect gamma radiation from Chinese underground nuclear weapons explosions at the Lop Nor test site and Soviet nuclear tests in Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan. Such military intelligence was crucial because trans-continental air currents would carry fallout from leakage from Central Asian tests sites directly over the Japanese archipelago -- an environmental and public health nightmare.

When Ginga crossed the Equator in early June, it picked up massive staccato bursts of gamma rays, at twice the frequency of stellar sources. Astronomers linked to ground control at the Institute of Space and Astronautical Science wondered if they had found some sort of mutant quasar, but the data did not come close to any known source. Then, they realized the gamma ray discharges had come from below Ginga -- but below it there was just a vast body of water, far from any nuclear plant, cyclotron or test site. They contacted NASA, which ran a computer check on satellite orbits.


NASA replied that the probable source was a Russian spacecraft, Japanese scientists came to the chilling realization that another satellite in lower orbit was irradiating the ionosphere. Each time Ginga overflew the path of Cosmos 1900-- a craft that the Soviets claimed was an oceanic observation satellite -- the readings were the same: massive bursts of radioactivity. Accidental leakage? Not likely because Cosmos had not been launched until 10 months after Ginga, in December 1987. Therefore, Ginga had detected radiation-seeding by a predecessor satellite that burned on reentry, which was soon replaced by Cosmos. The Soviets were using a series of satellites to deliberately irradiate the Van Allen belts of the upper atmosphere. But why?
   
Cosmos 1900 satellite


Ring over the Equator


What satellite Ginga stumbled upon was an electromagnetic "mirror," a ionized reflector for transmission of low-frequency beams, which was a part of the Russian EMW arsenal. The electromagnetic technology has been used to alter the climate in the Northern Hemisphere to lessen the economic cost of Russia's severe winters. It is also used for advanced global communications, for anti-missile defenses and to induce earthquakes. In other words, it is extremely sophisticated and dangerous technology, wide open for abuse in the wrong hands. A similar system was patented by Bernard Eastlund, former chief of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, which forms the core of the U.S. Navy's HAARP program in Alaska. (V2, the companion article provides an overview on this technology.)

If this artificially ionized belt acts like a mirror, then electromagnetic waves sent from ground stations in the Southern Hemisphere would be reflected back to a roughly equal longitude and a roughly equidistant latitude in the Northern Hemisphere, and vice versa. For example, to change the weather patterns on the steppes of Kazaldistan (Nikita Khruschev's hare-brained scheme was to grow wheat there; after initial failures, it is now one of the world's top breadbaskets, thanks to milder weather), one would have to place a EM transmitter in the vicinity of French-controlled Kerguelen Island, south of the Indian Ocean.

The ability to focus the EM waves, however, is the most technically difficult problem, which can be solved by using two intersecting beams of scalar energy to create an interference pattern, that is, a third standing wave. This standing wave could be applied in different formats to create various electromagnetic effects or to ionize the atmospheric gases to create deadly plasma. This would account for a diversity of shapes and light effects, that is, UFOs, seen by many thousands of observers around the world that cannot be attributed to passing planes and other physical objects. STARWARS & THE FINAL WAR
Haarp Subject: Secret Government Research,    The battle for Aum Shinrikyo
   Earthquake Inducing Electromagnetic Weapons Used at Kobe?
   TESLA DOOM WEAPONS & AUM SHINRIKYO    Ginga satellite    Fire From The Sky

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Cosmos 1900 had nuclear reactor onboard? cover story?
Cosmos 1900 Nation: USSR. Program: RORSAT. Mass: 3,800 kg. Class: Surveillance. Type: Naval Radarsat. Spacecraft: US-A. Agency: MO SSSR. Perigee: 696 km. Apogee: 735 km. Inclination: 66.1 deg. Period: 99.1 min. COSPAR: 1987-101A. USAF Sat Cat: 18665. source


The Lincoln Laboratory's Haystack radar system near Boston supported a NASA research in charaterizing the size of space debris. They detected that the Cosmos 1900 spacecraft, is leaking coolant (sodium potassium) from its nuclear power source. Cosmos 1900, a Radar Ocean Reconnaissance Satellite using a nuclear reactor to power its surveillance equipment, was launched in december 1987, but suffered a boost problem that left it in a lower than planned orbit. One year later the satellite was turned off and transferred to a higher orbit. source
   In April 1988 the Soviet radar reconnaissance satellite Cosmos 1900 failed to separate and boost the reactor core into a storage orbit. This failure of the basic system raised the possibility that the reactor could re-enter the Earth's atmosphere some time in late summer or early fall. The Soviet Union announced that the satellite was equipped with both a basic system for radiological protection and a redundant system. The redundant system apparently succeeded in separating the nuclear core of Cosmos-1900 on Sept. 30 at which time the reactor core was boosted into a "stable" storage orbit at about 720 km altitude. The intended storage orbit, however, was to have been at more than 800 km altitude. - source

EPA's Response to the Reentry of Cosmos Satellites    Information Notice No. 88-71: POSSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT OF THE REENTRY OF COSMOS 1900 AND REQUEST FOR COLLECTION OF LICENSEE RADIOACTIVITY MEASUREMENTS ATTRIBUTED TO THAT EVENT    Space Nulear Accidents lecture PDF    The wrong stuff: Nukes in space

Satellite defense shield patent acknowledges EM / kinetic weapons

Several systems are known which are used to cripple or destroy orbiting satellites or other space vehicles. These systems may be ground based or space based. Typical systems used for destroying satellites include kinetic energy weapons delivered by anti-satellites; directed energy weapons such as high energy lasers, neutral particle beams, high-powered microwave radiation, and other nuclear radiations; and broad-area electromagnetic pulses. Before the satellite can be destroyed, however, it must be detected in space, and the weapon must be aimed such that the destructive force will intercept the path of the satellite. This invention relates to a device which makes it difficult or impossible to locate and track the satellite. When the word "satellite" is used in this specification, other space based mechanisms and vehicles are considered to be within the realm of the invention.

To destroy a satellite, the weapon operator must aim his weapon either to lead the satellite such that the energy beam (or the like) and target arrive at the same location at the same time, or the weapon must be able to track the satellite's location. Should the aim of the gunner be off, in the case of an unguided projectile, the gunner will miss the target. In the case of a guided projectile, the target position, velocity and acceleration information must be accurate enough to enable the projectile to come near enough to its target to be effective. If the input data is inaccurate or too late, the operator will not be able to make the appropriate corrective actions, and the weapon will miss. Cryptome
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Is Electro-Magnetic Warfare a satellite based project?

Manipulating the planet from the outside in?

HAARP, China, Russia And The Moon

HAARP / Environmental control / TESLA / Chemtrails
Big Brothers worldwide digital 3D remote sensing
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
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Re: ALERT>> Spy satellite part of a false flag US nuke attack? FEMA dispersed
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Inside America's Satellite-Killing Missile

By Noah Shachtman EmailFebruary 15, 2008 | 12:05:39 PMCategories: Missiles, Space 



Sm3_diagram_2 The weapon that the Pentagon wants to use to shoot down a failing satellite is well-tested.  But its one weakness could pose a problem, as the military tries to take out that satellite before it hits the atmosphere.  Center for Defense Information missile specialist Victoria Samson explains...

Today, the U.S. Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system uses the Standard Missile (SM)-3 to make what are known as "direct intercepts."  That means there's no explosion in space.  Instead, the SM-3 destroys its target by ramming into with lots and lots of sheer kinetic energy -- more than 130 megajoules worth, or "the equivalent of a 10 ton truck traveling at 600 miles per hour," it maker says.  The missile uses two stages to get into near-space, and a third, kinetic warhead to strike.  The interceptor finds its targets largely because its seeker has been programmed to look for a certain type of object.  (The SM-3 Block1B, the upgrade to the current model, is supposed to have a two-color infrared seeker which presumably would increase its discrimination capabilities.)

Right now, the SM-3 has tested against short- and medium-range ballistic missiles, and has made twelve intercepts out of fourteen attempts during testing.  These intercepts have been made while the target is in space (tests have been at altitudes of over 100 miles), which provides it with a hot target against the cold environs of space. The most recent flight test intercept attempt by a U.S. ship occurred on Nov.6, 2007 and was a success.   

Raytheon, which makes the interceptor, explains how it's supposed to work:

     

    As a ballistic missile threat rises above the horizon, [the] ship’s radar acquires, begins tracking, and the weapon system begins calculating the engagement solution. Upon command from the ship’s weapon system, the SM-3 boosts out of the launcher and establishes radio communication with the ship. After MK 72 booster burnout, the MK 104 Dual Thrust Rocket Motor (DTRM) ignites. In-flight communications from the ship guide the missile toward the predicted intercept point. After MK 104 burnout and separation, the MK 136 Third Stage Rocket Motor (TSRM) ignites, propelling the third stage out of the atmosphere. Throughout its flight, the missile continues to receive in-flight target updates from the ship to refine the intercept guidance solution. The TSRM contains two separate pulses that can be initiated to optimize the engagement timeline. During flyout, the third stage pitches over and ejects the nosecone, exposing the SM-3 Kinetic Warhead (KW). Following TSRM burnout roughly 30 seconds before intercept, the SM-3 KW separates from the third stage and immediately searches for the target based on pointing data received from the ship. The KW acquires the ballistic missile warhead with its long-wavelength imaging infrared seeker. The KW’s Solid Divert and Attitude Control System precisely maneuvers the KW to enable a hit-to-kill intercept. As the KW closes on the target, it will identify the lethal payload area and shift its guidance aimpoint to ensure a lethal hit, destroying the target with more than 130 megajoules of kinetic energy, or the equivalent of a 10 ton truck traveling at 600 miles per hour.

But things have gone wrong.  The primary cause of one of the few U.S. flight test failures is the new guidance control system, the Divert and Attitude Control System, whose ceramic components cracked during a test.  This problem has not been remedied and is not being used in its most advanced mode.  Which means that the SM-3's maneuverability against more demanding targets may be affected.  Given how all of the tests so far have dealt with targets that we knew down to the smallest detail how they would behave in-flight, this means that it has not been tested against unknown targets that may require last-minute changes in its trajectory.   

The Pentagon has, as of the end of 2007, 21 SM-3 interceptors.  It's not like they have a huge inventory to draw upon.  For this proposed shoot-down, the Pentagon is claiming that it will make modifications to three SM-3 interceptors so that they can look for the malfunctioning satellite.  The modifications involve changing the software to target a satellite rather than a missile, David Wright of the Union of Concerned Scientists tells New Scientist. "This interceptor is really intended for missiles traveling at 3 to 4 kilometers per second; the satellite they're going to be shooting at has a speed of 7 to 8 kilometers per second."

But the change draws attention to one of the program's biggest flaws: if it doesn't know what to look for, it is unlikely to make an intercept (situational awareness is pretty slim).  And since the tests to date have all been highly scripted, the system has not had any practice of on the fly (if you'll excuse the phrase) intercept attempts.