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just heard something odd on CoasttoCaost AM,,a fedex trucker
called in noting that fema was prepping trucks laden with supplies
headed somewhere to the western USA.

Possibly having something  to do with the Kaput spy satilite that
they are plotting to shoot down with a rocket/missile system

eyes open & ear to the rail,the storm is coming.
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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY / Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 01:37:44 AM »
eyes open & ear to the rail

And hands on your guns...
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 04:13:41 AM »
What state? If its colorado I'll do recon if i can get some reliable info and what do the trucks look like you know swift, knight, transam etc...

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 09:59:30 AM »
Is it just me or was this meteor in Portland just a little to coincedental with all thats being reported as going on in the west Coast. FEMA rescue teams, trucks with supplies???  ??? I mean come on! I'm not as prepared for chaos as i'd like to be, but i do have plenty of .223 rounds and 9mm just in case.


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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 10:09:12 AM »
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon says bad weather at sea appears likely to put off, until at least Thursday, an attempt to shoot down the wayward U.S. spy satellite.

More time to prepare...
We know FEMA is always late to the game.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UU41R81&show_article=1&catnum=0

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 10:11:45 AM »
i didnt hear anything regarding the specific state,

more or less just that they are staging,,


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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 10:52:55 AM »
Does anyone remember back in November, 2007 there was a "scenario" -"false flag" in Portland, Oregon?  This also included Arizona and Guam.  It is odd that Fema is going to a western state with supplies.  Fema is not the emergency response team they portray.
They are, I believe, underground government.  This meteor, "spy satellite" being shot down and now Fema heading for the west . . . perplexing!  I remember sometime back in England where a purported scenario turned into a real event where there were car bombings, etc.

Here's hoping to see Thursday . . .

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 12:38:25 PM »
Of course FEMA is an underground government, just read this and you'll see the freedoms and liberties we give up to this criminal orginazation.

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 12:39:58 PM »
FEMA=Federal Emergency Manipulation Agency
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 01:40:11 PM »
posted on the other thread about the nuclear fallout to follow this shootdown.  Remember that blowing up a nuke above the earth's surface can have 10x the effect of a nuke exploding on the earth's surface.  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:


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I just uncovered a 2 month old leaked conversation between Dick Cheney and Dr. Strangelove...

CHENEY: We need a plan to start a 3 state martial law war game that will test the effects on mass deportations and full police state capabilities.

DR. STRANGELOVE: Why don't we convince the people they need us because of a radioactive waste spill?

CHENEY: Cool, how do we do it?

DR. STRANGELOVE: We blow up a nuclear satellite over the Pacific Ocean, then the radioactive waste cloud will carry over to the Western coast of the US giving our FEMA teams full authority to "deal" with the nuclear fallout.

CHENEY: Excellent! Do you think the people will go for it?

DR. STRANGELOVE: Mr. Vice President, what choice do they have?

CHENEY: Hahahaha [Dr. Evil type laughing]

Nuclear fallout, Cheney's new best friend!

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 01:52:43 PM »


P R E S S    R E L E A S E
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About Eighty Thousand Cancers in the United States, More Than 15,000 of Them Fatal, Attributable to Fallout from Worldwide Atmospheric Nuclear Testing
Hot Spots Occurred Thousands of Miles from Testing Areas, Government Study Shows
Independent Institute Calls for Public Health Response, Compensation and a Global Truth Commission

Takoma Park MD, February 28, 2002: An estimated 80,000 people who lived in or were born in the United States between the years 1951 and 2000 will contract cancer as a result of the fallout caused by atmospheric nuclear weapons testing, according to an analysis of government studies by the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research. Well over 15,000 of these cases would be fatal. The most recent government study, a fact sheet, and official fallout maps are posted on the IEER web site. The report and maps are also scheduled to be posted at the Centers for Disease Control web site, www.cdc.gov. The maps show cumulative fallout and county-by-county radiation dose and fallout patterns. These are proxies for geographic patterns of excess cancers that would be attributable to radiation.

The government report, prepared by the National Cancer Institute and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, estimates radiation doses from testing at the Nevada Test Site as well as from testing outside of the continental United States. The latter category includes U.S. tests in the Marshall Islands and Johnston Atoll in the Pacific region, Soviet tests in Semipalatinsk (now in Kazakhstan) and Novaya Zemlya (Russia), and British tests on Christmas Island.

"This report and other official data show that hot spots occurred thousands of miles away from the test sites," said Dr. Arjun Makhijani, president of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research. "Hot spots due to testing in Nevada occurred as far away as New York and Maine. Hot spots from U.S. Pacific area testing and also Soviet testing were scattered across the United States from California, Oregon, Washington, and in the West to New Hampshire, Vermont and North Carolina in the East."

"Despite that fact that its own studies have long shown extensive harm to people, including children, the U.S. government has had no effective public health response," said Lisa Ledwidge, a biologist and IEER's Outreach Director for the United States. "We applaud the fact that the United States government has been honest enough to say that it has harmed its own people, though it did so only under prolonged pressure from the people and some of its elected representatives. It is the only nuclear-weapon state to have done so. But it is not enough to estimate numbers or say you're sorry. The harm is still occurring. The government needs to inform people fully."

In the 1950s the government informed photographic film producers of expected fallout patterns so they could protect their film supply, but did nothing to inform milk producers so that they could protect a vital component of the food supply. "It is late in the day," said Ms. Ledwidge. "The government should not only urgently formulate a health and compensation response strategy, with public involvement, it should implement it without any further delay."

The study was mandated by Congress through legislation passed in 1998, after a 1997 National Cancer Institute report that dealt with only one radionuclide, iodine-131, and doses to the thyroid alone showed extensive exposures across the United States. Hot spots were scattered across the continent. The most affected counties were as far away as Idaho and Montana.

"The 1997 report indicates that some farm children, those who drank goat's milk in the 1950s in high fallout areas were as severely exposed as the worst exposed children after the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident. Such exposure creates a high probability of a variety of illnesses," said Dr. Makhijani. "Yet the government did nothing to inform the people in these affected areas."

Kenneth Strickler, who was born in 1954 in Challis, Idaho, a high fallout area, and who grew up there, learned in 1998 that he had thyroid cancer after his physician ran some tests. "The government should make the public aware of the symptoms of the types of cancer that might be caused from downwind syndrome," he said. "They should publish an ad in the newspapers so that people can look for more information at their web site."

He suspected that a malfunctioning thyroid might be responsible for his strange metabolic symptoms as a result of information about thyroid radiation doses from fallout given to him by his sister, Nikki Doll. Ms. Doll attended a talk given in 1998 in Challis by Dr. Makhijani as part of a tour organized by the Snake River Alliance.

"It is very frightening to know that radioactive tests were conducted by the United States and other countries with the knowledge that some harm might come to those who lived in the path of fallout," said Ms. Doll. "If the public is made aware of the possible dangers that hide in their environment, they can be alert to the symptoms and seek early diagnosis and treatment of a disease if it strikes. The U.S. government needs to be responsible for its actions and to inform us about what they did and how it is affecting our lives and how it will continue to affect the lives of those we love."

"Now is the time for people from nuclear weapons states to call for truth from their governments. Right here in Idaho we know the news is grim. There are hot spots all over the inter-mountain West," said Margaret Macdonald Stewart, Development Director of the Snake River Alliance. "Now the job - the U.S. government's job -is to take the news to small towns all over this region and help unsuspecting people whose health has been damaged by nuclear weapons."

"The United States has a compensation program for Nevada Test Site neighbors who are geographical downwinders. But this is clearly not enough," explained Ms. Ledwidge. "There are hot spots thousands of miles from tests sites and the new definition of 'downwinder' should include all of them."

"The new fallout maps and radiation dose estimates show that nuclear weapons states not only harmed their own people but also people in other countries," said Dr. Makhijani. "U.S., Soviet, and other testing likely created hot spots in Canada and Scandinavia, for instance. There may have been hot spots in many other countries all over the world. It is high time for the United Nations to create a Global Truth Commission that would examine in detail comparable to the U.S government studies the harm that has been inflicted upon the people of the world by nuclear weapons production and testing. Nuclear weapons states owe an honest accounting, treatment, and compensation to the victims of the nuclear age."

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 01:53:21 PM »
how far does fall out travel?

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 01:56:12 PM »
how far does fall out travel?

Didn't the ash cover the entire earth for some time after Krakatoa?
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 02:25:40 PM »
Nuclear fallout


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Fallout is the residual radiation hazard from a nuclear explosion, so named because it "falls out" of the atmosphere into which it is spread during the explosion. It commonly refers to the radioactive dust created when a nuclear weapon explodes. This radioactive dust, consisting of hot particles, is a kind of radioactive contamination. It can lead to contamination of the food chain. Fallout can also refer to the dust or debris that results from the nuclear explosion.Weapons of mass destruction


Types
There are many types of fallout, ranging from the global type to the more area-restricted types. Also the degenerative, indirect, exact, growing, and observant types.


Worldwide
After an air burst, the fission products, unfissioned nuclear material, and weapon residues which have been vaporized by the heat of the fireball will condense into a fine suspension of very small particles 10 nm to 20 µm in diameter. These particles may be quickly drawn up into the stratosphere, particularly if the explosive yield exceeds 10 kt.
 

Atmospheric nuclear weapon tests almost doubled the concentration of radioactive 14C in the Northern Hemisphere, before levels slowly declined following the Partial Test Ban Treaty.

Initially little was known about the dispersion of nuclear fallout on a global scale. The AEC assumed that fallout would be dispersed evenly across the globe, dispersed by atmospheric winds and will gradually settle to the earth's surface after weeks, months, and even years as worldwide fallout. Nuclear products were deposited in the Northern Hemisphere becoming "far more dangerous than they had originally been estimated[citation needed]."

The radio-biological hazard of worldwide fallout is essentially a long-term one because of the potential accumulation of long-lived radioisotopes (such as strontium-90 and caesium-137) in the body as a result of ingestion of foods containing the radioactive materials. This hazard is much less serious than those which are associated with local fallout, which is of much greater immediate operational concern. These will cause many deaths immediately effecting global one.


Local
In a land or water surface burst, large amounts of earth or water will be vaporized by the heat of the fireball and drawn up into the radioactive cloud. This material will become radioactive when it condenses with fission products and other radiocontaminants that have become neutron-activated. Many of the isotopes in the table below will decay into the isotopes that many people are more familiar with.
 

The roughly 280 mile long fallout plume from 15 Mt shot Castle Bravo, ca. 1954
Table (according to T. Imanaka et. al) of the relative abilities of isotopes to form solidsIsotope   Refractory index
91Sr   0.2
92Sr   1.0
95Zr   1.0
99Mo   1.0
106Ru   0.0
131Sb   0.1
132Te   0.0
134Te   0.0
137Cs   0.0
140Ba   0.3
141La   0.7
144Ce   1.0


Per capita thyroid doses in the continental United States resulting from all exposure routes from all atmospheric nuclear tests conducted at the Nevada Test Site from 1951-1962.

There will be large amounts of particles of less than 100 nm to several millimeters in diameter generated in a surface burst in addition to the very fine particles which contribute to worldwide fallout. The larger particles spill out of the stem and cascade down the outside of the fireball in a downdraft even while the cloud rises, so fallout begins to arrive near ground zero within an hour, and more than half the total bomb debris is deposited on the ground within about 24 hours as local fallout.

The chemical properties of the different elements in the fallout will control the rate at which they are deposited on the ground. The less volatile elements will deposit first.

Severe local fallout contamination can extend far beyond the blast and thermal effects, particularly in the case of high yield surface detonations. The ground track of fallout from an explosion depends on the weather situation from the time of detonation onwards. In stronger winds, fallout travels faster but takes the same time to descend, so although it covers a larger path, it is more spread out or diluted. So the width of the fallout pattern for any given dose rate is reduced where the downwind distance is increased by higher winds. The total amount of activity deposited up to any given time is the same irrespective of the wind pattern, so the overall casualty figures from fallout will generally be independent of the winds. But thunderstorms can bring down activity as rain more rapidly than dry fallout, particularly if the mushroom cloud is low enough to be below, or mixed with, the thunderstorm.

Whenever individuals remain in a radiologically contaminated area, such contamination will lead to an immediate external radiation exposure as well as a possible later internal hazard from inhalation and ingestion of radiocontaminants, such as the rather short-lived iodine-131, which is accumulated in the thyroid.


Factors affecting fallout

Nevada nuclear test total fallout outdoor gamma doses, 1950-57. The fallout is to the north and east because testing was only allowed when the wind was blowing in those directions.


Location

A formerly secret RAND Corporation simulation of the Castle Bravo fallout indicating that high levels on Rongelap may have been caused by a hotspot. Hotspots downwind are typical of bursts on coral in humid atmospheres and also occurred in the 1954 Yankee and Nectar water surface bursts, and the 1956 coral surface bursts Zuni and Tewa.

There are two main considerations for the location of an explosion: height and surface composition. A nuclear weapon detonated in the air, called an air burst, will produce less fallout than a comparable explosion near the ground. Less particulate matter will be contaminated by an air burst. Detonations at the surface (surface bursts) will tend to produce more fallout material.

In case of water surface bursts, the particles tend to be rather lighter and smaller, producing less local fallout but extending over a greater area. The particles contain mostly sea salts with some water; these can have a cloud seeding effect causing local rainout and areas of high local fallout. Fallout from a seawater burst is difficult to remove once it has soaked into porous surfaces because the fission products are present as metallic ions which become chemically bonded to many surfaces. Water and detergent washing is effective on removing less than about 50% of this chemically bonded activity from concrete or steel (complete decontamination requires aggressive treatment like sandblasting, or acidic treatment). After the Crossroads underwater test, it was found that wet fallout needs to be immediately removed from ships by continuous water washdown (such as from the fire sprinkler system on the decks).

For subsurface bursts, there is an additional phenomenon present called "base surge". The base surge is a cloud that rolls outward from the bottom of the subsiding column, which is cause by an excessive density of dust or water droplets in the air. For underwater bursts, the visible surge is, in effect, a cloud of liquid (usually water) droplets with the property of flowing almost as if it were a homogeneous fluid. After the water evaporates, an invisible base surge of small radioactive particles may persist.

For subsurface land bursts, the surge is made up of small solid particles, but it still behaves like a fluid. A soil earth medium favors base surge formation in an underground burst. Although the base surge typically contains only about 10% of the total bomb debris in a subsurface burst, it can create larger radiation doses than fallout near the detonation, because it arrives sooner than fallout, before much radioactive decay has occurred.


Meteorological

Comparison of fallout gamma dose and dose rate contours for a 1 Mt fission land surface burst, based on DELFIC calculations. Because of radioactive decay, the dose rate contours contract after fallout has arrived, but dose contours continue to grow

Meteorological conditions will greatly influence fallout, particularly local fallout. Atmospheric winds are able to bring fallout over large areas. For example, as a result of a Castle Bravo surface burst of a 15 Mt thermonuclear device at Bikini Atoll on March 1, 1954, a roughly cigar-shaped area of the Pacific extending over 500 km downwind and varying in width to a maximum of 100 km was severely contaminated. There are three very different versions of the fallout pattern from this test, because the fallout was only measured on a small number of widely spaced Pacific Atolls. The two alternative versions both ascribe the high radiation levels at north Rongelap to a downwind hotspot caused by the large amount of radioactivity carried on fallout particles of about 50-100 micrometres size [1].

After Bravo, it was discovered that fallout landing on the ocean disperses in the top water layer (above the thermocline at 100 m depth), and the land equivalent dose rate can be calculated by multiplying the ocean dose rate at two days after burst by a factor of about 530. In other 1954 tests, including Yankee and Nectar, hotspots were mapped out by ships with submersible probes, and similar hotspots occurred in 1956 tests such as Zuni and Tewa [2] However, the major U.S. 'DELFIC' (Defence Land Fallout Interpretive Code) computer calculations use the natural size distributions of particles in soil instead of the afterwind sweep-up spectrum, and this results in more straightforward fallout patterns lacking the downwind hotspot.

Snow and rain, especially if they come from considerable heights, will accelerate local fallout. Under special meteorological conditions, such as a local rain shower that originates above the radio-active cloud, limited areas of heavy contamination just downwind of a nuclear blast may be formed.


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A wide range of biological changes may follow the irradiation of animals. These vary from rapid death following high doses of penetrating whole-body radiation, to essentially normal lives for a variable period of time until the development of delayed radiation effects, in a portion of the exposed population, following low dose exposures.

The unit of actual exposure is the Röntgen which is defined in ionisations per unit volume of air, and all ionisation based instruments (including geiger counters and ionisation chambers) measure exposure. However, effects depend on the energy per unit mass, not the exposure measured in air. A deposit of 1 joule per kilogram has the unit of 1 gray. For 1 MeV energy gamma rays, an exposure of 1 röntgen in air will produce a dose of about 0.01 gray (1 centigray, cGy) in water or surface tissue. Because of shielding by the tissue surrounding the bones, the bone marrow will only receive about 0.67 cGy when the air exposure is 1 röntgen and the surface skin dose is 1 cGy. Some of the lower values reported for the amount of radiation which would kill 50% of personnel (the 'LD50') refer to bone marrow dose, which is only 67% of the air dose.


Short term
Further information: LD50

When comparing the effects of various types or circumstances, the dose which is lethal to 50% of a given population is a common parameter. The term is usually defined for a specific time, which is generally limited to studies of acute lethality. The common time periods used are 30 days or less for most small laboratory animals and to 60 days for large animals and humans. The LD50 figure assumes that the individuals did not receive other injuries or medical treatment.

In the 1950s, the LD50 for gamma rays was set at 3.5 Gy, while under more dire conditions of war (a bad diet, little medical care, poor nursing) the LD50 was 2.5 Gy (250 rad). There have been few documented cases of survival beyond 6 Gy. One person at Chernobyl survived a dose of more than 10 Gy, but many of the persons exposed there were not uniformly exposed over their entire body. If a person is exposed in a non-homogeneous manner then a given dose (averaged over the entire body) is less likely to be of a lethal dose. For instance if a person gets a hand/low arm dose of 100 Gy which gives them an overall dose of 4 Gy then they are more likely to survive than a person who gets a 4 Gy dose uniformly over their entire body. A hand dose of 10 Gy or more will likely result in loss of the hand; a British industrial radiographer who got a lifetime hand dose of 100 Gy lost his hand because of radiation dermatitis[citation needed]. Most people become ill after an exposure to 1 Gy or more. The fetuses of pregnant women are often more vulnerable than the host body and may miscarry, especially in the first trimester. Though the human biology resists mutation from large radiation exposure; grossly mutated fetuses usually miscarry, and this often causes gene-faults.

One hour after a surface burst, the radiation from fallout in the crater region is 30 grays per hour (Gy/h). Civilian dose rates in peacetime range from 30 to 100 µGy per year.

Fallout radiation decays exponentially relatively quickly with time. Most areas become fairly safe for travel and decontamination after three to five weeks.

For yields of up to 10 kt, prompt radiation is the dominant producer of casualties on the battlefield. Humans receiving an acute incapacitating dose (30 Gy) will have their performance degraded almost immediately and become ineffective within several hours. However, they will not die until 5 to 6 days after exposure assuming they do not receive any other injuries.

Individuals receiving less than a total of 1.5 Gy will not be incapacitated. People receiving doses greater than 1.5 Gy will become disabled; some will eventually die.

A dose of 5.3 Gy to 8.3 Gy is considered lethal but not immediately incapacitating. Personnel exposed to this amount of radiation will have their performance degraded within 2 to 3 hours, depending on how physically demanding the tasks they must perform are, and will remain in this disabled state at least 2 days. However, at that point they will experience a recovery period and be effective at performing non-demanding tasks for about 6 days, after which they will relapse for about 4 weeks. At this time they will begin exhibiting symptoms of radiation poisoning of sufficient severity to render them totally ineffective. Death follows at approximately 6 weeks after exposure, although results may vary.


Long term
Late or delayed effects of radiation occur following a wide range of doses and dose rates. Delayed effects may appear months to years after irradiation and include a wide variety of effects involving almost all tissues or organs. Some of the possible delayed consequences of radiation injury are life shortening, carcinogenesis, cataract formation, chronic radiodermatitis, decreased fertility, and genetic mutations. [1]


Tactical military considerations

Comparison of predicted fallout "hotline" with test results in the 3.53 Mt 15% fission Zuni test at Bikini in 1956. The predictions were made under simulated tactical nuclear war conditions aboard ship by Edward A. Schuert.

Blast injuries and thermal burns from the use of nuclear weapons for military action in many cases will far outnumber radiation injuries. However, radiation effects are considerably more complex and varied than are blast or thermal effects and are subject to considerable misunderstanding.

The closer to ground an atomic bomb is detonated, the more dust and debris is thrown into the air, resulting in greater amounts of local fallout. From a tactical standpoint, this has the disadvantage of hindering any occupation/invading efforts until the fallout clears, but more directly, the impact with the ground severely limits the destructive force of the bomb. For these reasons, ground bursts are not usually considered tactically advantageous, with the exception of hardened underground targets such as missile silos or command centers, however "salting" enemy territory with a fallout-heavy atomic burst can be used to deny ill-equipped civilians/military personnel access to a contaminated area.


Fallout protection
During the Cold War, the governments of the U.S. and USSR attempted to educate their citizens about surviving a nuclear attack. In the U.S., this effort became known as Civil Defense. The government provided procedures on minimizing short-term exposure to fallout, but currently, the popular attitude towards fallout protection is that short-term survival in a global thermonuclear war would be futile, and fallout shelters are no longer maintained even though fallout shelters could almost entirely eliminate the fallout-related casualties of a Chernobyl-type accident.[citation needed]


Nuclear reactor accident
Fallout can also refer to nuclear accidents, although a nuclear reactor does not explode like a nuclear weapon. The isotopic signature of bomb fallout is very different from the fallout from a serious power reactor accident (such as Chernobyl). The key differences are in volatility and half-life.


Volatility
The boiling point of an element (or its compounds) is able to control the percentage of that element which is released by a power reactor accident. In addition the ability of an element to form a solid controls the rate at which it is deposited on the ground after it has been injected into the atmosphere by a nuclear detonation.


Half-life
In bomb fallout, a large amount of short-lived isotopes such as 97Zr are present. This isotope and the other short-lived isotopes are being constantly generated in a power reactor, but because the criticality occurs over a long length of time the majority of these short lived isotopes decay before they can be released.

Below is shown a comparison of the calculated gamma dose rates in open air from the fallout of a fission bomb and of the Chernobyl release. It is clear that average half-life of the Chernobyl release is longer than that for the bomb fallout.

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 02:35:18 PM »
Ok, so we need to look at all the important people that are now convienently out of the country

1. Pres. Bush

2. Condi Rice

3. Robert Gates

Wow, what perfect timing. someone asked a very nice question earlier. Where are the Bush Daughters?? Is there anyway to find this out?

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2008, 02:46:23 PM »
the bush daughters are  with hillary getting the oral technique.
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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2008, 05:44:46 PM »
I do not understand.   Are you saying it is a possibility it is really not a satelite, just a meteor that they will blow up with nukes missiles?


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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2008, 05:55:59 PM »
Karl Rove might be in Canada at a Vancouver dinner tonight, read it online cant recall where.

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 06:30:40 PM »
This is FOX's memo on the satellite shootdown for tonight.  I presume the times are EST.

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1030pm  Around this time, should the decision be made to do this tonight, we expect the shot to be taken

1040-1130pm  DoD will send a press release and put one on their website (www.defenselink.mil) confirming whether the shot was a hit or a miss.

0700am We expect a news briefing at the Pentagon with Gen. Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.  Time of this briefing is not firm, could also be at 0900.  There are even rumors of a 0300 briefing, although that is extremely unlikely.
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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2008, 07:11:45 PM »
I do not understand.   Are you saying it is a possibility it is really not a satelite, just a meteor that they will blow up with nukes missiles?

any nukes/nuclear material exploding in the atmosphere might cause an EMP

guess we may know by 11:30 tonight
whether a shot was taken - hit or miss

but where would the " miss " land ?
food shortages and/or near starvation
will be the tactic/strategy used by TPTB to get america's guns

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2008, 08:19:20 PM »
Is it me or did the MSM just get very silent on this? It's all politics and Lindsay Lohan again tonight.

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2008, 08:36:34 PM »
I just packed an emergency supply bag

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2008, 08:48:58 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSd5j8xEaKM

Not every element of this particular model is hyper-realistic, however. AGI put together a sim based on the Pentagon's assertion that 50 percent of the debris would burn up in the atmosphere during the first two passes.

this is about as realistic a simulation you're going to see -- until that Navy cruiser takes its shot. 

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Re: FEMA STAGING FOR WESTERN US EMERGENCY /Spy Satilite Shoot Down False Flag?
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2008, 09:23:13 PM »
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/20/686943.aspx

We're FEMA and we're here to help

Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:07 PM PT
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By Robert Windrem and Dan Linden 

If the sky is falling, FEMA is prepared to catch it.

That’s the message tonight from FEMA-the agency made famous by its anemic response to Hurricane Katrina-to the threat posed by a spy satellite that could soon come crashing to earth.

FEMA has produced a memo and 18-page guide, a “First Responder Guide for Space Object Re-Entry,” that have been sent to thousands of local police, fire and emergency service agencies around the country.  It also has helpful hints for the public.

FEMA also has placed six “Federal Joint Interagency Task Forces” on alert in FEMA regions, ready to be deployed, just in case, according to the FEMA memo. A “Consequence Management Group” has been assembled at the Department of Homeland Security’s National Operations Center in Washington to manage the crisis, the memo adds.

There will be real-time contact with the Pentagon tonight during a planned shoot down of the spy satellite, and even a FEMA representative at the DoD operations center, a FEMA spokesman says. 

So why is FEMA even involved, at taxpayer expense?

Military and space experts doubt that debris from the spy satellite-about the size of a legendary FEMA trailer-will hit anywhere near land. Moreover, assuming the Pentagon’s shoot down is successful, the most likely consequence would be a “meteor shower” of small bits of debris north of Vancouver. As in Canada.

Neither the memo nor the guide, sent out Wednesday, takes into account the Pentagon shoot down. It’s not even mentioned, a week after the Pentagon announced the ambitious plan to great fanfare. The FEMA documents are written as if the satellite will fall to earth, intact. But even if that happened, experts say, the consequences would be limited to a debris shower that would look like shooting stars.

“The debris cloud would cross the dark Canadian coast north of Vancouver fifteen minutes after the shoot down,” said Jim Oberg, NBC’s space analyst.  “I expect that some of the most energetically expelled fragments will be hitting the atmosphere all along this track. It could be a meteor shower to remember.”

Nonetheless, the FEMA documents make it sound as if all of America could be at risk.

“Some of you may find yourself dealing with this issue within your community and response area,” reads the memo from FEMA’s Disaster Operations Directorate. It adds: “Please keep in mind that the probability that it will fall upon the United States is low, yet we must be ready.”

In the guide, FEMA warns first responders to avoid coming in contact with, inhaling or swallowing any of the chemicals that could survive the descent through the atmosphere.  Should the satellite strike a tank truck, watch out, it cautions. “Consider evacuation for 800 meters (0.5 miles) in all directions,” it says. And if someone is hurt by the falling debris, “call 9-1-1 or emergency medical services”.

There are also helpful hints for the public: “Citizens who observe or encounter falling debris should notify your local public safety agency and stay away from it”.

Tonight, FEMA is unapologetic about its efforts and says these are the kinds of precautions the agency should be taking.

“This is what we do," said Russ Knocke, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA.  "We've been on this for weeks," Knocke said, adding that FEMA’s philosophy with potential national disasters is: “Take no chances, and spare no expense.

"This is one of several issues that are on our plate at the National Operations Center this evening", added Knocke, along with watching the U.S. ports, borders, and potentially dangerous weather. "In terms of planning and coordination, that's something we do on a daily basis."

Knocke could not offer any estimates tonight on how much money the agency is spending on the first-responder guide or the overall falling-satellite operation.