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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2015, 07:02:24 PM »
  Yes, there may be a rising star.   Jeb and Hillary are worst than fresh dog-crap.

  But we have way too much to go thru before the next election---millions dying from measles, millions dying in snowstorms, a 1000 more black people being shot by trigger-happy cops.  LOL

  I just saw the news (ABC)---they will have a team of nurses at the Super Bowl to look for people with the scary symptoms of measles.  THE WORLD IS INSANE.

CRISIS!!!!

OBUMMER just may have to postpone elections... "YOU DO STAND BEHIND THE PRESIDENT DURING THIS 'CRISIS' DON'T YOU!?"  :o

As you know, all the Presidential hopefuls are standing behind the president as he suspends the elections...bla bla bla 
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2015, 07:16:52 PM »


  The biggest crisis in the next two years will be WHAT OBAMA DOES TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.  I'm predicting that though they have the votes, the Republicans will seem powerless.  The Republicans are such wimps.  ALL THESE NON-STORIES TO COVER UP WHAT OBAMA IS DOING BEHIND THE SCENES.
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« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2015, 10:45:53 PM »
Just like Obama, he continues to act as though he's still running for office years after being sworn into office.

In the four years he's been in the U.S. Senate (at taxpayer expense), has Rand so much as mentioned any of the following bills even once?

Nice to see somebody else noticed this. The biggest difference between Ron and Rand (and one of the biggest disappointments about the latter) is the transparency. Ron Paul was not a pro-liberty person who merely opposed all bills being proposed, he was clearly FOR a lot of concrete legislation. He used his office to draft most of those bills to show what real libertarian, constitutional legislation should look like. The downside of this open approach, however, is that the bills went nowhere.

Most of Rand's strategems, by contrast, involve devious or murky constructions of positions, designed to defuse opposition from Republican rank and filers as much as possible, and defuse the damage the resulting bills would do. His approach is often to rhetorically seem to embrace a neo-con or globalist agenda item, but plan to gut it substantively (his version of TPP or climate change or sanctions, etc, would be toothless once in the White House, so apparently supporting the idea of them now allows him to finesse the establishment for now).

In this fashion, Rand verbally gets on the same side of the table as the enemy, thereby defanging them, by minimizing direct confrontations about policy. Whether we like this form of engagement is beside the point. The truth is, in modern Presidential politics, the most evasive person, and biggest liar tends to win the election. Rand is purportedly lying for our side, as opposed to most politicians who are claiming to be conservative or for the people, who are really lying for the NWO.

Time will tell whether this tip-toe approach to the issues will make any difference come the primaries. In about 14 months, or March of 2016, we'll know whether stealth mode finessing of the issues will result in Rand winning any more primaries or caucuses than Ron did. If not, it's back to the straightforward approach to combating the Total State.
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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2015, 02:10:11 AM »
Rand is as smart as he is resourceful. Here he shows this ability on the Senate floor...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DveDwEk122Y

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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2015, 12:23:31 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/30/exclusive-rand-paul-at-38000-feet-gop-needs-conservative-not-a-moderate-as-2016-nominee/
Exclusive — Rand Paul At 38,000 Feet: GOP Needs Conservative, Not A Moderate As 2016 Nominee
by Matthew Boyle30 Jan 2015Washington, DC478

38,000 FEET ABOVE AMERICA — Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), a likely 2016 GOP presidential candidate, tells Breitbart News he’s “gauging support” for a potential White House bid. In an exclusive interview aboard an American Airlines flight from Washington, D.C., to Dallas, Texas, he also said he thinks Republicans need to select a conservative — such as himself — as the 2016 GOP nominee for president, rather than a moderate such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush or New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
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« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2015, 04:01:21 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/30/exclusive-rand-paul-at-38000-feet-gop-needs-conservative-not-a-moderate-as-2016-nominee/
Exclusive — Rand Paul At 38,000 Feet: GOP Needs Conservative, Not A Moderate As 2016 Nominee
by Matthew Boyle30 Jan 2015Washington, DC478

38,000 FEET ABOVE AMERICA — Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), a likely 2016 GOP presidential candidate, tells Breitbart News he’s “gauging support” for a potential White House bid. In an exclusive interview aboard an American Airlines flight from Washington, D.C., to Dallas, Texas, he also said he thinks Republicans need to select a conservative — such as himself — as the 2016 GOP nominee for president, rather than a moderate such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush or New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
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Yeah, we'll just have to compromise and put the two together on one ticket.

OH! BUT LOOK! ... at this rising star from nowhere.  So new and shinny.
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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2015, 05:04:25 PM »
If Rand Paul Is Such A Second Amendment Advocate Why On Earth Would He Vote On A trade Bill That Will Attempt To Kill It.


2ND AMENDMENT THREATENED IN OBAMA’S TRADE PLANS
http://www.infowars.com/2nd-amendment-threatened-in-obamas-trade-plans/

Gun Owners of America is blasting a congressional proposal that empowers Obama to unilaterally negotiate international agreements as “a ‘bait and switch’ scheme that could seriously impact the Second Amendment.”

House and Senate committees are currently preparing to hand Obama so-called “fast-track” trade promotion authority. It would enable the president to unilaterally negotiate the TransPacific Partnership, a trade and global governance agreement with the U.S. and 11 other nations bordering the Pacific Ocean.

Under fast-track rules, Congress would not be able to amend or even vet the completed agreement. It could only approve everything that Obama has included, including anything tucked away in the 99th page that no one really wants to talk about, or kill it.

Gun Owners of America warns fast track “delegates to Barack Obama the legislative authority to do anything he wants – absolutely anything – so long as he includes it in a ‘trade agreement.’”

Second Amendment defenders worry, for example, anti-gun measures such as gun or ammunition import bans could be relegated to the bowels of the so-called “trade agreement.” They say Congress would be unable to stop it “when every Establishment interest in Washington starts pushing Congress to immediately approve this ‘up-or-down’ deal.”

They point to the experience with the recently approved trillion-dollar “Cromnibus” spending bill, which included the largest funding increase in history for the federal gun database, empowered states to impose gun bans based on doctor’s orders and increased the budget for the ATF.

Fast track “is the same dynamic as the Cromnibus, and if we hadn’t just gone through that we wouldn’t see what will happen if they give him fast track,” Michael Hammond, legislative counsel with Gun Owners of America, told WND.

“Republicans whine about Obama usurping legislative authority, so why in heaven’s name are they thinking of giving him unlimited legislative authority to do anything he can put into a trade agreement?” Hammond asked

Supporters of fast track, including Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, say it allows Congress to set goals for an agreement the Obama administration will negotiate.

But Hammond points out the TransPacific Partnership agreement “has already largely been negotiated and is being kept secret only for the sole purpose of getting us to give it a rubber stamp.”

“What kind of idiot would bite on that deal?”

The Obama administration has been negotiating the TransPacific Partnership without congressional input for the past six years and acknowledges the deal is near completion.

“I don’t think it’s wise to allow Obama to promulgate any law he wants as long as he succeeds in sticking it in this agreement and then gets Congress’ assent on an up or down vote without any possibility for amendment,” Hammond said.

“It’s playing Russian Roulette with a gun with six bullets in the chamber,” he said.

Gun Owners of America is urging everyone to contact their senators and representative and ask them to oppose giving fast-track authority to Barack Obama.

WND has reported extensively on the TPP, including when Obama traveled to Asia to promote it last year.

TPP has been described as the largest-ever economic treaty, encompassing 12 participating nations representing more than 40 percent of the world’s gross domestic product. It’s the frontrunner to the equally under-the-radar Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, or TIPP, between the U.S. and the European Union.

WND reported that the White House, without much fanfare, wrapped Mexico and Canada into the TPP negotiations as a continuation of an effort regarded by critics as a move toward a European Union-style integration of North America.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/2nd-amendment-threatened-in-obamas-trade-plans/#QdrMsVmJEJ2whpWH.99
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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2015, 05:43:30 PM »
I really would like to see a non-career politician step up, a breath of freshness so to speak,  I could possibly support such a person, as a third party candidate. Dr.Ben Carson perhaps but I see he interested as republican try,  so that could influence my backing. 
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2015, 07:00:12 PM »

Borg Assimilation

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/19439-rand-paul-to-obama-prioritize-passage-of-trans-pacific-partnership
Monday, 03 November 2014   
Rand Paul to Obama: "Prioritize" Passage of Trans-Pacific Partnership
 Written by  Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

Politics, the saying goes, makes strange bedfellows. In presidential politics, the cozy compromises with the unconstitutional seem even more unsettling.

Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a man whose personal popularity and political fortunes have increased in direct proportion to his spreading of his libertarian-leaning ideals, has now publicly embraced the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), an unprecedented sovereignty surrender masquerading as a multi-national trade pact.

Paul’s speech coincided with the TPP ministerial meeting conducted October 19-24 in Sydney, Australia.

Speaking at the Center for the National Interest dinner in New York City on October 23, Senator Paul said:

Our national power is a function of the national economy. During the Reagan renaissance, our strength in the world reflected our successful economy.

Low growth, high unemployment, and big deficits have undercut our influence in the world. Americans have suffered real consequences from a weak economy.

President George W. Bush understood that part of the projection of American power is the exporting of American goods and culture. His administration successfully brokered fourteen new free trade agreements and negotiated three others that are the only new free trade agreements approved since President Obama took office. Instead of just talking about a so-called “pivot to Asia,” the Obama administration should prioritize negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership by year’s end.

Why would Rand Paul, a man who has in the past demonstrated a remarkable adherence to the principles of the Constitution, make his own “pivot” away from those doctrines and toward a pact as pernicious as the TPP?

Perhaps the answer is found in this paragraph from a story on Paul’s speech printed in The Diplomat: "As a Republican presidential hopeful, Paul likely recognizes that his and the party’s interests are best served by trying to find some issues on which Republicans can cooperate with the administration. This would give the American electorate confidence that the Republican Party is interested in governing, and would make it harder for Democrats to use disgust with the Republican Party to mobilize the Democratic base in the 2016 election." 
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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2015, 09:32:31 PM »
I do not wish to hamper Dr. Paul's strategy nor his chances for reaching the White-house... yet I will tell you that his strategy is strong and is assuredly not one of Borg assimilation...

Go Rand!

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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2015, 11:20:56 PM »
 I personally will not vote for any of the standard players in the Republican Party: R. Paul included.

I would vote for Dr. B. Carson.

I also hope D. Trump runs; even though I think he is an arrogant arsehole, he is a business man and he has the CASH to back a run: and I think a Ticket of Carson & Trump/or/ Trump & Carson would shake up this Game of politics from Washington Only!

...We Need Change in America and Paul is not it...
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« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2015, 11:32:19 PM »


... strange article in the WASHINGTON POST,
front page tomorrow, 2/2.
:o

How Rand Paul tried to lead an eye doctors’ rebellion

The letters came from a young ophthalmologist in Kentucky. He was recruiting for an eye doctors’ rebellion.

“We won’t be trod upon,” he wrote, using the language of 1776. “You can’t promulgate injustice without consequences.”

The injustice he was talking about was a new rule, from the powerful group that deems American ophthalmologists to be “board-certified.” It required younger doctors to take a test that older doctors did not have to take.

The Kentucky doctor was so outraged that he seceded — and started his own Board of Ophthalmology, so he could certify himself.

“You can send a clear message to the establishment” by signing up to be certified by the new board, too, the letter said. “Check the appropriate box and return the card with your $500. Sincerely, Rand Paul, M.D.”

The letter, from about 2003, helps illuminate a little-understood (and mostly ridiculed) chapter of Paul’s life before politics: how he became a self-certified ophthalmologist.

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Today, Paul’s friends say his failed medical board demonstrated a key facet of his character.

"He never stopped trying. Real change is difficult. Standing up to the system is difficult. But never stop trying. Never give up,” said Jesse Benton, a longtime friend and adviser
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READ ARTICLE~~~>http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-rand-paul-tried-to-lead-an-eye-doctors-rebellion/2015/02/01/010994da-9cd6-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html
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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2015, 12:29:01 AM »
I personally will not vote for any of the standard players in the Republican Party: R. Paul included.

I would vote for Dr. B. Carson.

I also hope D. Trump runs; even though I think he is an arrogant arsehole, he is a business man and he has the CASH to back a run: and I think a Ticket of Carson & Trump/or/ Trump & Carson would shake up this Game of politics from Washington Only!

...We Need Change in America and Paul is not it...

Hey brother we agree.  Nice to know i am not the only one that WILL NOT vote for anyone in established parties.  I do hope Carson gets a third party nod, but I don't see it.
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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2015, 12:59:10 AM »
Hey brother we agree.  Nice to know i am not the only one that WILL NOT vote for anyone in established parties.  I do hope Carson gets a third party nod, but I don't see it.
We are on the same page in life my brother  8)!

Oh! Dr. Ben has a long road...but Americans like us, and there are a lot, will NOT VOTE for Paul or any other Republican.

A good sign for Dr. Ben, is that he came in 3rd or 4th in a recent Poll! and he has not said a word about running!

Also; and I know it sounds strange: But I say Donald The Hairdo Trump should run: This would Shock the establishment! and don't forget, that, the Dumb Americans LOVE a Celebrity: and thus would vote for him.

The Trump is an egotistical maniac: But he can run a Business and I know he takes no BS---and he can give a lot of BS  ;)
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2015, 01:20:26 AM »
^^^^^ and not career politician  !!!!!!
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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2015, 04:19:50 AM »

... strange article in the WASHINGTON POST,
front page tomorrow, 2/2.
:o

How Rand Paul tried to lead an eye doctors’ rebellion

The letters came from a young ophthalmologist in Kentucky. He was recruiting for an eye doctors’ rebellion.

“We won’t be trod upon,” he wrote, using the language of 1776. “You can’t promulgate injustice without consequences.”

The injustice he was talking about was a new rule, from the powerful group that deems American ophthalmologists to be “board-certified.” It required younger doctors to take a test that older doctors did not have to take.

The Kentucky doctor was so outraged that he seceded — and started his own Board of Ophthalmology, so he could certify himself.

“You can send a clear message to the establishment” by signing up to be certified by the new board, too, the letter said. “Check the appropriate box and return the card with your $500. Sincerely, Rand Paul, M.D.”

The letter, from about 2003, helps illuminate a little-understood (and mostly ridiculed) chapter of Paul’s life before politics: how he became a self-certified ophthalmologist.

Quote
Today, Paul’s friends say his failed medical board demonstrated a key facet of his character.

"He never stopped trying. Real change is difficult. Standing up to the system is difficult. But never stop trying. Never give up,” said Jesse Benton, a longtime friend and adviser.

READ ARTICLE~~~>http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-rand-paul-tried-to-lead-an-eye-doctors-rebellion/2015/02/01/010994da-9cd6-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

You solidly substantiate with perfect emphasis, the essence of my previous point... Thanks Jackson.

Rand reminds me of "Jack"....55 years ago!

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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2015, 07:38:29 AM »
^^^^^^^

... yeah, looks like the POST was trying very hard to
turn this inspiring story of persistence, ingenuity and
resistance to an unjust system into a political minus ...
but everybody they interviewed says the opposite! Looks
like a backfire. And you are right JT ... he does have
a JFK-like persona that kindles confidence in his leadership.
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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2015, 09:53:28 AM »
^^^^^^^

... yeah, looks like the POST was trying very hard to
turn this inspiring story of persistence, ingenuity and
resistance to an unjust system into a political minus ...
but everybody they interviewed says the opposite! Looks
like a backfire. And you are right JT ... he does have
a JFK-like persona that kindles confidence in his leadership.

  As a doctor I can tell you that "board certified" is crap and so are licenses.  IF YOU GRADUATED FROM A MEDICAL SCHOOL AND/OR A RESIDENCY PROGRAM, THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO BE A DOCTOR OR A SPECIALIST IF YOU ARE ONE.

  "Board-certified" is a cottage industry where pompous asses decide whether you are good enough to be in "their club".  Tests and interviews and 1000's of dollars later and then you get your piece of paper to place on your office wall.

  Licenses are also unnecessary.  If a patient has a problem with what was done to them, they should take it to a lawyer.  Licenses were not given out until the 1940's---about the time administrative law got a foothold in America.  Yes, the same administrative law that AJ talks about when he talks about child protection services.  A bureaucratic nightmare where THEY DON'T EVEN USE THE CONSTITUTION.  By the way, TPTB want EVERYTHING to be tried in administrative courts.  Why?  So they can try everything without the US Constitution.  Don't believe me?  Study it out yourself.  This is why I will fight for the Constitution until I die.

  Licenses are basically economic barriers to keep doctors from going state to state.  Layers of bureaucracy THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY TO RUN AND A LOT OF MONEY TO APPLY FOR A LICENSE.

  The only place I see a need for a license is with our vehicles.  I don't believe that they are run by administrative courts but I don't know.  I'll have to study it out.

  Administrative law is the worst part of law.  But you know what?  If an attorney gets in trouble, he doesn't go to the administrative courts to handle the situation.  He usually is judged by a panel of judges and 90% of judges are attorneys.

  Back to Rand.  JT is right.  It was courageous but the MSM will turn this against him. 

  I have seen many people--not just doctors--ruined by administrative law.  IT IS THE LAW FROM HELL.

 
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« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2015, 10:59:19 AM »
  As a doctor I can tell you that "board certified" is crap and so are licenses. 

This is off the Rand Paul topic Doc, but I just want your take on something, in regards to your above comment.

Looking at 'being a doctor' (historically), I don't believe a so-called 'doctor', CAN in fact, be a REAL 'independent' doctor today.  I believe the medical system (in USA) puts the shackles on their practice from day one.

My grandmother's doctor started practicing in the 1930's and this is what the Rockefeller payed for schools were already teaching young medical students... "NEVER listen to what the patient has to say."  Doctors were instructed "NEVER" to mention this to the public.   

Doctors in that era believed this was "insane" and "counter productive" from the stand point of how medical doctors had always worked with their patients BEFORE the Rockefeller takeover of the medical industry.  Because my grandmother and her daughters had this same doctor for years, they ALL developed a close relationship and that's why this doc spilled the beans on what they were teaching doctors.

Fast forward to 2015.  This 'holier then thou' attitude of today's doctors, have give rise to very the ANTI-doctor practices of the past and, we see it's fruits in the corporate media promoting doctors who refuse patients who refuse big pharma drugs / vaccines.
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« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2015, 11:34:16 AM »
This is off the Rand Paul topic Doc, but I just want your take on something, in regards to your above comment.

Looking at 'being a doctor' (historically), I don't believe a so-called 'doctor', CAN in fact, be a REAL 'independent' doctor today.  I believe the medical system (in USA) puts the shackles on their practice from day one.

My grandmother's doctor started practicing in the 1930's and this is what the Rockefeller payed for schools were already teaching young medical students... "NEVER listen to what the patient has to say."  Doctors were instructed "NEVER" to mention this to the public.   

Doctors in that era believed this was "insane" and "counter productive" from the stand point of how medical doctors had always worked with their patients BEFORE the Rockefeller takeover of the medical industry.  Because my grandmother and her daughters had this same doctor for years, they ALL developed a close relationship and that's why this doc spilled the beans on what they were teaching doctors.

Fast forward to 2015.  This 'holier then thou' attitude of today's doctors, have give rise to very the ANTI-doctor practices of the past and, we see it's fruits in the corporate media promoting doctors who refuse patients who refuse big pharma drugs / vaccines.

  You are right John.  Doctors are not independent. 

  That's one of the reasons I got out.  I was working for the military so that I would have some flexibility.  I have never been sued but I believe I could have been because you don't get a perfect result because the human body is not perfect to start with.

  Doctors have licenses and they tell all of us that practicing medicine is a privilege and not a right.  I think that is crap.  If you graduate from a school, it should be a right. 

  Because practicing is a privilege, doctors can have their licenses pulled for not giving vaccines or not prescribing fluoride if they are dentists or etc, etc, etc.  Soon they will pull licenses for not prescribing enough anti-cholesterol drugs, etc.  Yes, I believe Big Pharma is part of the problem but the legal side (administrative law) is the worst part of it.

  So when you go to your doctor you can refuse what they want you to have, but take it easy on him/her.  THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANT CERTAIN THINGS TO KEEP THEIR LICENSES AND KEEP EARNING A LIVING. If you don't like what they say, find another doctor.
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« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2015, 03:52:55 PM »
^^^^^^^

... yeah, looks like the POST was trying very hard to
turn this inspiring story of persistence, ingenuity and
resistance to an unjust system into a political minus ...
but everybody they interviewed says the opposite! Looks
like a backfire. And you are right JT ... he does have
a JFK-like persona that kindles confidence in his leadership.


Rand has the same tenacity for Liberty as his father. At this age, back in the late '80s Ron was up front and directly vocal with the truth, to mixed effect... Rand has learned from this, and uses a more conciliatory, less in your face approach, combining his mother's influence with his father's in a resolve that boils just below the surface and only flexes in swift intellectual retorts that silence peripheral attacks instantly.

At this time, Rand Paul and others equally capable and fearless, will be the 10 fold millennial payback against the global feudalist royalist banking manure pile.

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"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the
distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every
time we object to a thing being done by government, the Socialists
conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state
education. Then the Socialists say we are opposed to any education.
We object to a state religion. The Socialists say that we want no religion
at all. We object to a state enforced equality. Then they say that we are
against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the Socialists were to
accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the
state to raise grain."
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2015, 04:23:01 PM »

  Doctors have licenses and they tell all of us that practicing medicine is a privilege and not a right.  I think that is crap.  If you graduate from a school, it should be a right. 

  So when you go to your doctor you can refuse what they want you to have, but take it easy on him/her.  THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANT CERTAIN THINGS TO KEEP THEIR LICENSES AND KEEP EARNING A LIVING. If you don't like what they say, find another doctor.
God Bless you doc.

I know doctors are in a pickle and I can be hard on them as you have read.

Like police, there are good ones and there are also some down right evil ones. 

The  Carnegie, Rockefeller's.... tore down the old 'independent' medical system and set up the current medical system so that doctors who were once considered wild west 'MEDICINE' show quacks, could flourish in the NAME of keeping the very SAME quacks out of the medical profession they themselves set up.

Doc, if you ever get a hard copy you really should read 'The Drug Story'.  Every doctor in medical school should be REQUIRED to read this book.
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« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2015, 04:29:23 PM »


At this time, Rand Paul and others equally capable and fearless, will be the 10 fold millennial payback against the global feudalist royalist banking manure pile.


When Rand OPENLY supports 'Trans Pacific' he openly supports the global feudalist royalist banking manure pile.

-just say'n
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« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2015, 04:43:31 PM »
When Rand OPENLY supports 'Trans Pacific' he openly supports the global feudalist royalist banking manure pile.

-just say'n

The counter argument is that he is "just playing politics" in order to get into the Whitehouse. But that Machiavellian theory, by its very definition is also asking the public to vote for a Liar and Fraud.

Now, I think no good can possibly come out of that scenario.

Should we also apply the same standards to say Obama ?
Like Obama made a lot of promises to get into the Whorehouse, should we give him a free pass ?


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« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2015, 05:03:12 PM »
God Bless you doc.

I know doctors are in a pickle and I can be hard on them as you have read.

Like police, there are good ones and there are also some down right evil ones. 

The  Carnegie, Rockefeller's.... tore down the old 'independent' medical system and set up the current medical system so that doctors who were once considered wild west 'MEDICINE' show quacks, could flourish in the NAME of keeping the very SAME quacks out of the medical profession they themselves set up.

Doc, if you ever get a hard copy you really should read 'The Drug Story'.  Every doctor in medical school should be REQUIRED to read this book.

  Thank you John.  God Bless you and your family.

  A friend of mine who is a multi-millionaire's favorite line is LIFE IS A STRUGGLE.  Even for him.

  Thanks for your suggestions.  I'll have to find that book.  So many books.  So little time.

  We read all this crap and every day there is more. But I am grateful that I generally know what is really going on.

  Like I have said many times here.  It's not the people.  It's the governments that we have to be leary of.  I wish I could pick a country in Europe or South America just to visit for a year---just to have fun with other people BUT THE GOVERNMENTS ARE THE PROBLEM.  I still believe that 90% of any people are GOOD.
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« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2015, 06:19:16 PM »
When Rand OPENLY supports 'Trans Pacific' he openly supports the global feudalist royalist banking manure pile.

-just say'n

The counter argument is that he is "just playing politics" in order to get into the Whitehouse. But that Machiavellian theory, by its very definition is also asking the public to vote for a Liar and Fraud.

Now, I think no good can possibly come out of that scenario.

Should we also apply the same standards to say Obama ?
Like Obama made a lot of promises to get into the Whorehouse, should we give him a free pass ?

Like I said in my first post, his strategy is sound and the remedy he'll use is in keeping with Constitutional method...

He has not come out in rabid support of TPP he is not stumping it as a cornerstone of his campaign...

He's couching a plausibility regarding this thing but not the way that people fear... TPP is being juggled and changed as the peoples, our voice, understanding, and power, grows.

Even Robert Reich has just come out against it. Why's that..? I can't think of a time when I've ever agreed with Reich... 

There are questions... and if Rand continues against the grain, forcing his uncanny non-sequitur personal stance into this debate, maybe this secret deal will then open out into public discourse before it is signed.

There are too many unknowns at this point for hard terminal judgements.

JTCoyoté

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socialism from entering into the making of laws? You would
prevent socialists from entering the Legislative Palace? You
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to be the main business of the legislature. It is illogical --
in fact, absurd -- to assume otherwise."
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2015, 07:16:37 PM »

... Rand Paul is at the very core of the
new, SENSIBLE, Civil Rights movement
in this country ... and through his efforts
I believe many 'libs' are beginning to get
a glimmer that pro-life IS a pro-CIVIL
RIGHTS issue. He is weaving startling new
alliances between the old school, so-called
RIGHT & LEFT like no other on the scene today.



And so one of the problems we have is that once you have a felony, you lose your right to vote, and also your ability to be employable is limited once you’re a felon. If we take all these crimes and make them misdemeanors, it would go a long way,” said Paul.


Two Americas


Rand Paul's Crazy Dream of a Libertarian-Democratic
Alliance on Civil Rights Is Actually Happening


Jan 29, 2015  David Weigel

On the morning before attorney general nominee Loretta Lynch would face Congress, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul re-introduced a bill that would tie her hands. Paul and a crew of congressmen—Minnesota Representative Keith Ellison, Michigan Representative Tim Walberg—had resurrected the Fifth Amendment Integrity Act. If passed, it would restrict the government’s ability, from the Department of Justice on down to local cops, to seize property from criminal suspects.

“We’ve had protests across our country, and people think it’s about one or two instances,” Paul said from the rostrum. “No. It’s one thing after another. Let’s say you’ve got a poor family in a neighborhood in a big city, and grandmother owns the house. The 15-year old son is selling marijuana. They catch him. They take the house! The house was the only stabilizing thing in a family that was having trouble.”

Ellison, a black Democrat who was the first Muslim elected to Congress, stood by Paul as he summoned the ghosts of the Civil Rights movement.

“Martin Luther King talked about there being two Americas, where one America was treated in a just fashion and one wasn’t,” Paul said. “At one point it was based on color, and it was awful. Now it’s not so much based on color on purpose, but there is an inadvertent sense to the war on drugs that has allowed people of color to be caught up in this.”

This was Rand Paul, national figure and likely presidential candidate, and Democrats needed him. And this was still somewhat new to them. Paul had begun his Senate career in 2011 by slicing up red meat, introducing a doomed bill to ban abortions and a budget proposal that zeroed out foreign aid. He’d started the second Obama administration with a campaign of outreach to black students and black leaders, and a vocal campaign to restore the voting rights of felons. Democrats could say this and the media shrugged; Rand Paul said it, and the notebooks came out.

As 2014 dragged on, the violent news cycles gave Paul new chances to find a libertarian-liberal consensus. He took those chances. After the shootings of black teens by police officers, Paul wrote that it was “impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.” He’d introduced some bills to rectify that. The Democratic Senate had slept on them. So here he was, in 2015, starting what most people see as a nascent presidential campaign with an effort to erase harsh laws—to the joy of Democrats who have no power to pass any bills on their own.

“I’m glad when my colleagues start waving around the Constitution,” said Ellison. “I think the constitution is offended by civil forfeiture.”

"

Criminal justice reform was never about police behavior, but about politicians writing bad laws,” Paul argued.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-01-29/rand-paul-s-crazy-dream-of-a-libertarian-democratic-alliance-on-civil-rights-is-actually-happening
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2015, 07:23:04 PM »
Like I said in my first post, his strategy is sound and the remedy he'll use is in keeping with Constitutional method...

He has not come out in rabid support of TPP he is not stumping it as a cornerstone of his campaign...

He's couching a plausibility regarding this thing but not the way that people fear... TPP is being juggled and changed as the peoples, our voice, understanding, and power, grows.

Even Robert Reich has just come out against it. Why's that..? I can't think of a time when I've ever agreed with Reich... 

There are questions... and if Rand continues against the grain, forcing his uncanny non-sequitur personal stance into this debate, maybe this secret deal will then open out into public discourse before it is signed.

There are too many unknowns at this point for hard terminal judgements.

JTCoyoté

"To prevent this, [continuing legal plunder], you would exclude
socialism from entering into the making of laws? You would
prevent socialists from entering the Legislative Palace? You
shall not succeed, I predict, so long as legal plunder continues
to be the main business of the legislature. It is illogical --
in fact, absurd -- to assume otherwise."
~Frederic Bastiat,
from "The Law", 1850


I know you'd like to sell supporting TTP as being "sound".  I'm just not buying it.

HYPOTHETICALLY
If Rand Joined Jeb Buss on a joint Republican ticket what would your take be on that venture.

I'm sure you could write a novel as to why that would NOT happen but, I don't care about all that.  I'm just really interested what your take on Rand would be IF HYPOTHETICALLY he and Jeb Bush joined forces (for whatever the reason)
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« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2015, 08:48:06 PM »
HEY JTCoyoté!!  ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt8qQUbzVc

You always hurt the one you love.  Looks like a relationship in the making to me
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Rand Paul to Jeb Bush: You're a pot-smoking hypocrite
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/taking-names-scott-maxwell/os-rand-paul-to-jeb-bush-youre-a-potsmoking-hypocrite-20150202-post.html

IIn case you think marijuana is just a hot-button issue in Florida, take a look at the race for the White House.

Over the weekend, The Hill featured Republican Sen. Rand Paul going hard after Jeb Bush on the issue -- noting that Bush admitted he smoked pot liberally as a youth, yet wants to imprison people for doing it now.

“Had he been caught at Andover [his prep school], he’d have never been governor, he’d probably never have a chance to run for the presidency,” Paul said.

“I think that’s the real hypocrisy, is that people on our side, which include a lot of people who made mistakes growing up, admit their mistakes but now still want to put people in jail for that."

Paul was referring to a recent interview with the Boston Globe where Bush spoke of his four years at the Phillips Academy prep school, saying: “I drank and I smoked marijuana when I was at Andover,” going on to say such behavior was “pretty common” there.


The former governor now calls that decision “stupid” and “wrong” -- and last year, vocally opposed Florida efforts to legalize medical marijuana.
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                                             No matter where they go
                                            They are known as the couple.
                                             They're never seen alone
                                             So they're known as the couple.

                                                         As I've indicated
                                              They are never quite separated,
                                                  They are peas in a pod.
                                                    Don't you think that it's odd?

                                                        Their habits, I confess
                                                    None can guess with the couple.
                                                       If one says no it's yes
                                                   more or less, with the couple.

                                                  But they're laugh provoking;
                                    Yet they really don't know they're joking
.

                                                    When love is blind
                                                       It's kind of odd.
                                                               
                                                      Don't you find It ODD?
                                                         Don't you find It ODD?
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2015, 09:19:45 PM »
HEY JTCoyoté!!  ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt8qQUbzVc
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                                             No matter where they go
                                            They are known as the couple.
                                             They're never seen alone
                                             So they're known as the couple.

                                                         As I've indicated
                                              They are never quite separated,
                                                  They are peas in a pod.
                                                    Don't you think that it's odd?

                                                        Their habits, I confess
                                                    None can guess with the couple.
                                                       If one says no it's yes
                                                   more or less, with the couple.


                                                   But they're laugh provoking;
                                    Yet they really don't know they're joking

                                                    When love is blind
                                                       It's kind of odd.
                                                               
                                                      Don't you find It ODD?
                                                         Don't you find It ODD?

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/12/16/rand-paul-jeb-bush-president/

... and then there is this...  Sort of, kind of getting us all ready?

Rand Paul....

The Kentucky senator, who has courted black voters and Silicon Valley titans along with Tea Party conservatives, said "the GOP is big enough to include someone like him as well as Bush, who appeals to the party’s establishment wing."

“I think we have a big tent, and we can use moderates, conservatives, libertarians — we need ‘em all,” he said

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It's rather ODD but poor ol Jeb NEEDS a Rand Paul.  Question is, does Rand need ANOTHER Bush?
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« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2015, 09:49:47 PM »
I know you'd like to sell supporting TTP as being "sound".  I'm just not buying it.

HYPOTHETICALLY
If Rand Joined Jeb Buss on a joint Republican ticket what would your take be on that venture.

I'm sure you could write a novel as to why that would NOT happen but, I don't care about all that.  I'm just really interested what your take on Rand would be IF HYPOTHETICALLY he and Jeb Bush joined forces (for whatever the reason)

I'm not selling TPP neither is Rand Paul... the globalists and the power brokers in Washington, New York, London, and Beijing, are the ones trying to coerce the world into buying it...

Positions of power are being brokered in it's fraudulent currency for support as we speak...

If elected, Rand will show the counterfeit nature of that currency and will tear it apart, rebuild it, sustaining it's structure using the overwhelming support of the American People and The Constitution as the foundation.

Jeb Bush should be indited for allowing institutionalized torturous murder on his watch as governor of Florida in March-April 2005... I made the case for Shaivo/SPP Bush collusion as a caller on yesterday's show.

Trying to connect Rand to the Bushes is as fruitless as attaching him as a Doctor to Joseph Mengela...

You need to read my posts more closely than you do!

JTCoyoté

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loses all its immorality as soon as it becomes
legal. Personally, I cannot imagine a more
alarming situation."
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« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2015, 10:13:13 PM »
I'll tell ya what  everyone in here could argue a point either way.  The real hope for this nation is "we the people"  and if enough would wake up soon and take back our country, then we could have a real debate on who would be the best.  As it stands now I seriously doubt if there will be another election(2016 or whenever) that would make a difference anyway. 
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« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2015, 10:48:25 PM »
I'm not selling TPP neither is Rand Paul... the globalists and the power brokers in Washington, New York, London, and Beijing, are the ones trying to coerce the world into buying it...

Positions of power are being brokered in it's fraudulent currency for support as we speak...

If elected, Rand will show the counterfeit nature of that currency and will tear it apart, rebuild it, sustaining it's structure using the overwhelming support of the American People and The Constitution as the foundation.

Jeb Bush should be indited for allowing institutionalized torturous murder on his watch as governor of Florida in March-April 2005... I made the case for Shaivo/SPP Bush collusion as a caller on yesterday's show.

Trying to connect Rand to the Bushes is as fruitless as attaching him as a Doctor to Joseph Mengela...

You need to read my posts more closely than you do!

JTCoyoté

"There are people who think that plunder
loses all its immorality as soon as it becomes
legal. Personally, I cannot imagine a more
alarming situation."
~Frederic Bastiat


In Paul's speeches on TPP it sure sounds like a sales pitch to me.  Using a 'Bush' as a shinning example.  Ironic isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M_K07eSXU

Free Fair Trade and the TPP is like "a Doctor to Joseph Mengela"  Although NWO's Adam Smith coined the term 'Free Trade'.
 
Trying to connect Rand to the Bushes is as fruitless as attaching him as a Doctor to Joseph Mengela...

I will remember this quote if the two get together and, the theme song from the 'Odd Couple' will forever remind me of it.  ;D
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« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2015, 10:51:52 PM »
I'll tell ya what  everyone in here could argue a point either way.  The real hope for this nation is "we the people"  and if enough would wake up soon and take back our country, then we could have a real debate on who would be the best.  As it stands now I seriously doubt if there will be another election(2016 or whenever) that would make a difference anyway.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep.  In a nutshell.
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« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2015, 11:01:38 PM »
... Rand Paul is at the very core of the
new, SENSIBLE, Civil Rights movement
in this country ... and through his efforts
I believe many 'libs' are beginning to get
a glimmer that pro-life IS a pro-CIVIL
RIGHTS issue. He is weaving startling new
alliances between the old school, so-called
RIGHT & LEFT like no other on the scene today.



And so one of the problems we have is that once you have a felony, you lose your right to vote, and also your ability to be employable is limited once you’re a felon. If we take all these crimes and make them misdemeanors, it would go a long way,” said Paul.


Two Americas


Rand Paul's Crazy Dream of a Libertarian-Democratic
Alliance on Civil Rights Is Actually Happening


Jan 29, 2015  David Weigel

On the morning before attorney general nominee Loretta Lynch would face Congress, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul re-introduced a bill that would tie her hands. Paul and a crew of congressmen—Minnesota Representative Keith Ellison, Michigan Representative Tim Walberg—had resurrected the Fifth Amendment Integrity Act. If passed, it would restrict the government’s ability, from the Department of Justice on down to local cops, to seize property from criminal suspects.

“We’ve had protests across our country, and people think it’s about one or two instances,” Paul said from the rostrum. “No. It’s one thing after another. Let’s say you’ve got a poor family in a neighborhood in a big city, and grandmother owns the house. The 15-year old son is selling marijuana. They catch him. They take the house! The house was the only stabilizing thing in a family that was having trouble.”

Ellison, a black Democrat who was the first Muslim elected to Congress, stood by Paul as he summoned the ghosts of the Civil Rights movement.

“Martin Luther King talked about there being two Americas, where one America was treated in a just fashion and one wasn’t,” Paul said. “At one point it was based on color, and it was awful. Now it’s not so much based on color on purpose, but there is an inadvertent sense to the war on drugs that has allowed people of color to be caught up in this.”

This was Rand Paul, national figure and likely presidential candidate, and Democrats needed him. And this was still somewhat new to them. Paul had begun his Senate career in 2011 by slicing up red meat, introducing a doomed bill to ban abortions and a budget proposal that zeroed out foreign aid. He’d started the second Obama administration with a campaign of outreach to black students and black leaders, and a vocal campaign to restore the voting rights of felons. Democrats could say this and the media shrugged; Rand Paul said it, and the notebooks came out.

As 2014 dragged on, the violent news cycles gave Paul new chances to find a libertarian-liberal consensus. He took those chances. After the shootings of black teens by police officers, Paul wrote that it was “impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.” He’d introduced some bills to rectify that. The Democratic Senate had slept on them. So here he was, in 2015, starting what most people see as a nascent presidential campaign with an effort to erase harsh laws—to the joy of Democrats who have no power to pass any bills on their own.

“I’m glad when my colleagues start waving around the Constitution,” said Ellison. “I think the constitution is offended by civil forfeiture.”

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Criminal justice reform was never about police behavior, but about politicians writing bad laws,” Paul argued.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-01-29/rand-paul-s-crazy-dream-of-a-libertarian-democratic-alliance-on-civil-rights-is-actually-happening


Nice to see these, Jack... you have a grip on what's happening...

Rand has nothing less than healing the rifts and fissures dividing the American people as a goal, as his agenda... He is building coalitions and allies to get 'er done, you gotta love it.

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against plunder or to use it for plunder."

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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2015, 11:23:05 PM »
If anyone  talks him into going 3rd party  I MIGHT consider him a suitable vp. 
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2015, 12:12:48 AM »
If anyone  talks him into going 3rd party  I MIGHT consider him a suitable vp.

That's good...

...when he shows up on the ballot... please consider voting for him in any case.

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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2015, 09:15:10 AM »
I have to admit I was rather impressed by Rand Paul's performance in his recent interview with CNBC host Kelly Evans:

     http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-snaps-at-hostile-cnbc-host-slanted-full-of-distortions-video.html

It's no secret I have strong reservations about Rand. Nevertheless, if it means anything to anyone, if I were forced at gunpoint to choose between he and Hillary, I'd choose Rand without batting an eye.
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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2015, 11:54:48 AM »
It is interesting how the press are trying to disallow and eliminate candidates, leaving just a Bush and a Hilldog behind ....
Here's a CNBC reporter that trys to find something wrong with Rand ... on tape ...


http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/02/rand-paul-im-a-big-fan-of-vaccines-but-they-can-cause-mental-disorders/
Rand Paul: ‘I’m a Big Fan’ of Vaccines, But They Can Cause ‘Mental Disorders’
by Ian Hanchett 2 Feb 2015

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said that while “vaccines are one of the greatest medical breakthroughs that we had,” he claims he has heard of children who got mental disorders from vaccines on Monday’s “Closing Bell” on CNBC.

“I think vaccines are one of the greatest medical breakthroughs that we had. I’m a big fan and a great fan of the history of the development of the smallpox vaccine, for example, but for most of our history they have been voluntary. So, I don’t think I’m arguing for anything out of the ordinary, we’re arguing for what most of our history has had” he said.

“I think public awareness of how good vaccines are for kids and how they are good for public health is a great idea, we just appointed a Surgeon General,” he continued. “These are some of the things that are things that we should promote as good for our health, but I don’t think there’s anything extraordinary about resorting to freedom.

I’ll give you a good example, the Hepatitis B vaccine is now given to newborns. We sometimes give five and six vaccines all at one time. I chose to have my delayed. I don’t want my government telling me that I have to give my new newborn the Hepatitis B vaccine, which is transmitted by sexually transmitted disease and/or blood transfusions… so I had mine staggered over several months. I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. I’m not arguing vaccines are a bad idea, I think they’re a good thing, but I think the parent should have some input. The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom.”

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Paul also talked about his current proposal to audit the Federal Reserve, stating that the current audit is “not an audit at all.”

“We had the auditor come before Congress a year and a half ago and they asked her, ‘What did the Fed buy with $4 trillion when they bought $4 trillion worth of assets?’ The auditor has no idea,” he said.



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Regarding the 2016 presidential race, Paul said, “We’re thinking about it, and we’re looking around the United States and seeing if the message resonates. Part of the problem is, is that you end up having interviews like this where the interview’s so slanted and full of distortions that you don’t get useful information. I think this is what’s bad about TV sometimes. So, frankly I think if we do this again, you need to try to start out with a little more objectivity going into the interview.”
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2015, 11:58:47 AM »
^^^^
  I just wish he would have said AUTISM.
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