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UKIP win first MP
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:00:30 AM »
Westminster rocked as Ukip
wins first MP in Clacton and
comes within grasping
distance of Labour
stronghold

Breakthrough at last for Ukip as
Douglas Carswell wins Clacton by-
election as party comes within 600
votes of victory in Labour
stronghold Heywood and Middleton

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11152995/Westminster-rocked-as-Ukip-wins-first-MP-in-Clacton-and-comes-within-grasping-distance-of-Labour-stronghold.html

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Re: UKIP win first MP
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 05:04:35 AM »
UKIP enters Westminster: Douglas Carswell makes history as the party's first MP with 12,404-vote victory in Clacton by-election

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786919/Douglas-Carswell-set-make-history-UKIP-s-elected-MP-votes-counted-Clacton-election.html

    * Mr Carswell won Clacton by-election with 12,404 majority over Conservatives

    * Contest triggered by Carswell's shock defection from the Tories in August

    * Accused David Cameron of not being 'serious about real change' in the EU

    * Weeks later Mark Reckless became the second Tory MP to defect to UKIP

    * Party leader Nigel Farage says 'tectonic plates' of British politics are shifting

    * Marks the pinnacle of UKIP's turbulent history after Euro election triumph

    * Labour MP Liz McInnes wins in Heywood and Middleton in narrow victory

    * Majority of 617 for Labour over UKIP candidate John Bickley in Lancashire



Tory defector Douglas Carswell has made political history by becoming UKIP's first elected MP in the House of Commons.

He comfortably won the Clacton by-election with 21,113 votes and secured the seat with a majority of 12,404 ahead of Conservative candidate Giles Watling, in a bitter blow for David Cameron.

Tory chairman Grant Shapps said UKIP's by-election win made a Labour victory in the general election more likely.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786919/Douglas-Carswell-set-make-history-UKIP-s-elected-MP-votes-counted-Clacton-election.html#ixzz3FjP1bjmV


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Comments :

Kestas Zemaitis, Kaunas, Lithuania, moments ago

If i would a Briton i'd vote UKIP



MickyS, Birmingham, moments ago

Heard some pathetic Tory on the radio this morning blabbering on about "protest votes" and "it will just let Labour in". What absolute pathetic rubbish... the people of this country vote for who they want (if they bother to vote at all) and are fed up and totally disillusioned by LIB/LAB/CON with all their lies, promises and deceit. Everybody get behind UKIP and let's make a new start.





Richards, Warwick, 8 hours ago

Vote ukip get ukip. Vote Tory get labour



CorrectSpelling, Pontefract, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago

The revolution has begun! VOTE UKIP!




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786919/Douglas-Carswell-set-make-history-UKIP-s-elected-MP-votes-counted-Clacton-election.html


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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 07:26:53 AM »
WOOOooOoooooOOOOOOoOOOOOO!

That Heywood result was pretty amazing. Liz McInnes appeared a bit shell-shocked when she took to the stage afterwards. At some point Labour must've have thought there was a very good chance they'd lost it.

Gutted for John Bickley coming so close in labour territory but he's a good candidate who'll get another shot in May.

FORWARD, comrades!

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 09:20:53 AM »
Good job, Ukip! But if you guys ever get in power, you best not screw the people like all the other parties have done. Someone has to stand up like men and true leaders and NOW! We are tired of lowlife, selfish, easily bought off punks posing as leaders EVERYWHERE!

Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2014, 07:24:43 AM »
UKIP surge to 25% nationally. Becoming a mainstream party.

Record poll surge gives Ukip 25%: Survey would hand Farage astonishing 128 MPs... and puts Ed Miliband on new low.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789512/record-poll-surge-gives-ukip-25-survey-hand-farage-astonishing-128-mps-puts-ed-miliband-new-low.html

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2014, 07:42:07 AM »
From the Daily Mail comments by revkevblue, Luton,

The media and the politicians, who keep spinning the line that a vote for UKIP is a vote for labour,still don't get it. The conservatives as they stand, are just as unacceptable to UKIP voters as labour is, and so we will vote UKIP, because neither of the other two represent what we want, they are as bad as each other and we do not want either of them. It will make no difference to us which one is in power, but a vote for UKIP gives us a chance to get UKIP MP's in parliament to fight our corner, so the more we can get in the better for Britain it will be. And you never know, we may be the majority come May. So I am voting UKIP and let the dice fall as they may, because I refuse to vote for anymore of the same destruction to our Country.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789512/record-poll-surge-gives-ukip-25-survey-hand-farage-astonishing-128-mps-puts-ed-miliband-new-low.html#ixzz3Fvje9Agi


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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2014, 07:48:22 AM »
I often think that the Tea Party and UKIP are related in the sense that the original grass root idea of " We want our country back ".

The Tea Party is now a wing of the Republican Party
BUT
UKIP is an independent party.

Will either strategy be successful, or is the Two Party Dictatorship a self balancing system that will defeat both UKIP and The Tea Party.

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2014, 07:59:01 AM »
I am scared of UKIP. I am scared of a betrayal.
They were started by Alan Sked, an LSE academic and member of the British American Project for the Successor Generation.
They are not conspiracy theorists, nor do they know very much about Europe.
But if they put a stop to mass migration then there is hope yet for Civilization in the UK. Obviously the elite want to third world-Ize everywhere and maybe UKIP can slow that down.

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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2014, 08:07:41 AM »
I am scared of UKIP. I am scared of a betrayal.
They were started by Alan Sked, an LSE academic and member of the British American Project for the Successor Generation.
They are not conspiracy theorists, nor do they know very much about Europe.
But if they put a stop to mass migration then there is hope yet for Civilization in the UK. Obviously the elite want to third world-Ize everywhere and maybe UKIP can slow that down.

I understand your concerns.


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By NIGEL FARAGE - We don't play you for Fools
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2014, 08:17:24 AM »
NIGEL FARAGE:
Why did we win?
Because WE don't play you for fools



By Nigel Farage Mep, Ukip Leader
Published: 23:18 GMT, 11 October 2014
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2789592/nigel-farage-did-win-don-t-play-fools.html


It is not often that one has the pleasure of giving both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition hum-dinging headaches on a single memorable night.

But that is what Ukip did this week with our by-election results in Clacton and in Heywood and Middleton. Following my campaign visits to the latter I had dared to hope that we might break our record vote share for a by-election – the 28 per cent recorded when we narrowly failed to take Eastleigh in Hampshire off the Liberal Democrats last year.

In the event our superb candidate in Heywood, John Bickley, smashed it to pieces, chalking up a massive 39 per cent vote share in Labour’s strongest northern citadel of all.



John’s record stood for only a couple of hours – Douglas Carswell weighed in with an incredible 60 per cent in Clacton.

So what does it all mean? Labour reckoned it showed the Tories were in free-fall, while the Tories reckoned Labour had been humiliated in a home fixture. For once, both were right.

But the Conservative message soon changed to the familiar yet increasingly bizarre claim that Ukip’s success means Ed Miliband is likely to win the next election. The claim was propagated by Tory chairman Grant Shapps, a man so devoid of genuine political ideas that he makes a blank canvas look like a Jackson Pollock.

In Clacton, the electorate voted Ukip and got Ukip. In Heywood and Middleton, it was the rump of 3,000 or so Conservative voters who could have avoided ‘getting Miliband’ had they switched to us – because Labour’s majority was only 617. Once again, the Tories had split our vote and in doing so saved a left-wing party, just as they did in Eastleigh.

In the great urban areas of the North and the Midlands, the Conservatives have become a minor legacy party with a toxic brand and no apparent prospect of recovery. I could take you on a tour of towns and cities that were represented by Tory MPs a generation ago, but are now devoid of them. Perhaps we could call it the Matthew Parris Heritage Trail, after the Tory Times columnist whose vicious and outrageous attack describing Clacton as ‘Britain on crutches’ was a gift to our campaign.

THE Cameron Conservatives are not the new politics; they are getting in the way of the new politics. The British public are crying out for change and increasingly they see Ukip as offering the best prospect of that change.

In recent years the three older parties have together turned politics into a ghetto for the liberal metropolitan elite – a space from which most of the British public is ruthlessly excluded.

All back Britain’s prohibitively expensive and anti-democratic subservience to the European Union, all are signed up to an energy policy that drives bills ever higher and all back continued enormous increases in spending on foreign aid. In short, all have fallen prey to the conceit of being generous with other people’s money. All too are happy to render Britain effectively borderless in respect of more than two dozen neighbouring countries.

None has an answer to the social mobility crisis that has grown since the option of academically selective education within the state sector was throttled in the 1970s. All are happy to see Britain entangled in dodgy and often counterproductive foreign wars. All would keep us locked inside the European human rights regime. And perhaps worst of all, they are all run by cliques of college kids who know little of the real world.

No wonder those who have to earn a proper living and strive to pay their own bills and are not prisoners to political correctness find that Ukip is a party they can connect with and be proud to support.

Most of all, Ukip is being identified as the one party that is prepared to get to grips with the immigration crisis. Only by leaving the EU can we escape the obligation to maintain open borders. Only then can we set our own immigration policy according to our needs. We need an Australian-style points system that would bring volume control and quality control.

That way we can welcome those migrants with major contributions to make – jobs to create, investments to bring and British values to adopt – while keeping out those without the skills, aptitudes or attitudes that can improve our society.

And once we get immigration under control we can then have half a chance of sensibly planning the provision of key public services such as schools and hospitals, having sufficient social housing available and giving working people a fair shake at finding decent and decently rewarded employment.

The public are demanding a change to the immigration system that only Ukip is prepared to provide. The other parties just offer spin and people hate being played for fools.

There is a great whoosh of energy around Ukip these days. The metropolitan media, which has hitherto been desperately slow on the uptake, turned out in enormous numbers in Clacton on Friday morning. They had just discovered what millions of voters have known for ages: the People’s Army is on the march.

Now we have won under First Past The Post and have every chance of winning enough seats at the General Election next year to hold the balance of power. The British people want us in the next Parliament and it is our job to convince them to send us there in real numbers.

I am aware of the hopes invested in our party by millions of patriotic, decent and hardworking men and women. It is a huge responsibility. It is not only our right to seek election into the House of Commons in May, it has also become our duty to succeed. Too many people have been too badly let down by the political establishment for far too long for failure to be an option.

All roads now lead to Rochester & Strood for the by-election that Mark Reckless triggered when he joined us. Team Dave will throw their kitchen sink at us – and lots of unpleasant items they keep in it. But if Mr Cameron continues to tolerate the smear campaign being waged against Mark by his lieutenants, he risks setting off an even bigger wave of support for Ukip.

We are not the finished article yet. We must and will continue to work on our weaknesses as well as build on our strengths. But what a long way we have come in the past couple of years. We are fighting to win your country back from political elites at home and abroad.

We want to make politicians once again the servants of the people and not their masters. We want to make them accountable to you. We know that you never stopped believing in Britain – neither did we.

Unlike Nick Clegg – whatever happened to him, by the way? – we know Britain is good enough to be a proud, independent nation, trading its way to prosperity across the globe. Getting on with its neighbours but not run by them. Engaged on the world stage, but nobody’s poodle.

That’s our vision and I think it could be yours.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2789592/nigel-farage-did-win-don-t-play-fools.html#ixzz3FvsiQrNB



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Re: UKIP win first MP - Labour MP will be next to join UKIP
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2014, 08:19:51 AM »
A Labour MP will be next to join UKIP
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789767/miliband-migrants-earn-right-benefits-pass-tougher-english-language-tests-come-place.html

A Labour MP is on the verge of defecting to UKIP, Douglas Carswell claimed today.

The former Tory MP who easily won the Clacton by-election after switching parties said it was 'looking very promising' that a Labour MP would be next to join him.

Labour leader Ed Miliband today sought to rescue his crisis-hit leadership with a fresh promise of an immigration crackdown, after UKIP also came within 617 votes of winning the safe Labour seat of Heywood and Middleton on Thursday night.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789767/miliband-migrants-earn-right-benefits-pass-tougher-english-language-tests-come-place.html#ixzz3FvtI4Lfy



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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2014, 09:17:26 AM »
I share all the concerns mentioned above. I'm afraid UKIP will betray us as they get closer to power (they probably will) but we can at least hold their feet to the fire on issues that are important to us because they actually talk about them, unlike the others dicks. It'd be difficult to back out on major policies like leaving the EU, not getting involved in foreign wars, and the Al Gore tax.

But let's not fall into that tribal politics trap. UKIP are not the answer. They're just the best weapon we currently have. They're screwing things up and I'll take chaos over slavery any time.

We're WINNING. If only for a moment. *delights in the glory*

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 05:23:21 AM »
Good analysis Stan.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 06:49:01 AM »
Turnouts of 36% and 51% show the public has lost confidence in the electoral system and politicians in general.

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 10:30:12 AM »
Turnouts of 36% and 51% show the public has lost confidence in the electoral system and politicians in general.

Voting for Corbyn as leader, and voting UKIP

BOTH are rebellion against what they call the Establishment, but I see as NWO minions.

Reminds me of the old Chinese curse of living in interesting times.
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2017, 07:38:16 AM »
Good analysis Stan.

And then our MP resigns.  :D

Oh well, Article 50 tomorrow. How'd you like that, bitches?  8)

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2017, 07:44:07 AM »
And then our MP resigns.  :D

Oh well, Article 50 tomorrow. How'd you like that, bitches?  8)

Difficult to know which to be more pleased about, the departure of Douglas Carswell or Brexit Tomorrow

WE MUST LEAVE BEFORE  31st - Or Brexit is SUNK

Starting 1st April ( oh the irony ) . . . Time tabled Treaty Of Lisbum changes come into effect.
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