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Offline John_Back_From_The_Club_O

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The ultimate distraction... War with Russia.

Both The EU and USA have 'OFFICALY' called  Russian army and navy presence in Ukraine a "WAR DECLARATION"
  
Ukraine mobilizes troops after Russia's 'declaration of war'
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/02/world/europe/ukraine-politics/

While Russia has been declaring SELF DEFENSE from the get go.

Truth be told, there is big trouble in the EU with it's own population taking to the streets calling out these BANKER puppet regimes.   The US isn't in much better shape with the public putting the 'establishment' under a microscope.  As usual when these two are facing their own big problems war is the meds they reach for every time.

Russia, has it's own problems and they too most probably would not be opposed to getting into a major war as well. If the truth was known

One thing is for certain.  A war with Russia would give the NWO an even more aggressive power grab in the US / EU (YES EU) since 911.

Will the internet be seized by the US / EU for 'TIME OF WAR reason?  The end of the internet as we know it?
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 02:57:45 PM »
I was thinking about this, during my morning.

Because Syria didn't happen, due to public outcry, they needed another event.
America would have been cast as the bad guy in the Syria war.

But now Russia gets to play the bad guy, and America the good guy.  Patriotism goes up, people willing join the military, and general good will towards our leaders is coming from the masses.

It seems they are hell bent on WWIII.   All we can do is be VERY VERY LOUD before it happens.

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 03:03:00 PM »
Prime Minister: Russia Has Declared War on Ukraine
http://www.infowars.com/prime-minister-russia-has-declared-war-on-ukraine/

Yes, this is the EU / USA MSM's attempt to turn this Ukraine ordeal into the 1939 German invasion of Poland.
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 03:12:56 PM »
I was thinking about this, during my morning.

Because Syria didn't happen, due to public outcry, they needed another event.
America would have been cast as the bad guy in the Syria war.

But now Russia gets to play the bad guy, and America the good guy.  Patriotism goes up, people willing join the military, and general good will towards our leaders is coming from the masses.

It seems they are hell bent on WWIII.   All we can do is be VERY VERY LOUD before it happens.


How Will USA Sell War With Russia To The American People?  

Anyone pointing out the US / EU wanted the war when the 'excuse' is rolled out will be pounced on by the MSM as 'enemies of the state'.

Why the long face?
This is genuinely good news!
I am serious with it.
You want to preserve the world as it is?

And to go on with the same old mind-games, forever?
Uh-huh. Ain't gonna let that be I'm afraid ...
And no we don't want UKRAINIAN Gangsters in Europe.

Who's with me; Oh hang-on; now let me guess.

"Yeah, I shall lead the sheep outta the Communist path. I am going to save The World from Tyranny"

Aye,.... Right you are Captain Nutjob! And guess what Jones has on GCN. Intel Professionals warning about
EMP strikes and Nuclear Weapons ....

Bullshit! Prime-Time, ALPHA-Grade BS.

Not even on the radar. You just live to be scared don't youse all. You're puppets on a string.

It's not about YOU and NUCLEAR Weapons Strikes. Unbelievable!






It's posts like above in quote box that already are going on that make my point.
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Some say that I've been Delphied I'm not sure what it means.  They say that I'm a victim of some much bigger scheme. Do you believe it?
http://www.iror.org/delphied.asp

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 03:38:02 PM »

How Will USA Sell War With Russia To The American People?  

Anyone pointing out the US / EU wanted the war when the 'excuse' is rolled out will be pounced on by the MSM as 'enemies of the state'.

It's posts like above in quote box that already are going on that make my point.

US GOVERNMENT GOONS ALREADY PITCHING WAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN REALTIME...

Man they don't waste any time!
https://twitter.com/20committee?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Frussia-took-crimea--what-happens-next-is-critical-to-all-of-ukraine-2014-3&tw_i=440181361853206528&tw_p=tweetembed
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2014, 03:42:36 PM »
There won't be any war just nuclear annihilation on both sides and a few splinter groups claiming allegiance to the US or Russia engaging in mass genocide but most will die out in 5 years from radiation poisoning.

Everything I've read over the past few years points to preparation for full on nuclear war.










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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2014, 03:59:31 PM »
Have 1 final war that will exhaust the US military so then China can invade on behalf of the Globalists and America is conquered once and for all.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 04:00:47 PM »
US GOVERNMENT GOONS ALREADY PITCHING WAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN REALTIME...

Man they don't waste any time!
https://twitter.com/20committee?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Frussia-took-crimea--what-happens-next-is-critical-to-all-of-ukraine-2014-3&tw_i=440181361853206528&tw_p=tweetembed

I don't think Johnny Boy understands the implications of nuclear war nor do the shills on reddit and facebook, they're still viewing this as a political issue with ground combat mixed in.

This isnt going to be a ground war, nukes are gonna be used and when that happens currency will lose all value, there will be no electricity to power the mansion, fuel will be scarce, food will be non existent, travel will be limited, the sick and injured will be killed by survivors on both sides.

And yes, facebook and twitter will cease to exist so you won't be able to tweet about it either.

Is this what John Schindler and his "20committee" really wants?

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 04:08:31 PM »
This is daft.

All Russia wants is its citizens not to be beaten up by nazi thugs, and to keep its one and only useless southern port.


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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2014, 04:15:25 PM »
I don't think Johnny Boy understands the implications of nuclear war nor do the shills on reddit and facebook, they're still viewing this as a political issue with ground combat mixed in.

This isnt going to be a ground war, nukes are gonna be used and when that happens currency will lose all value, there will be no electricity to power the mansion, fuel will be scarce, food will be non existent, travel will be limited, the sick and injured will be killed by survivors on both sides.

And yes, facebook and twitter will cease to exist so you won't be able to tweet about it either.

Is this what John Schindler and his "20committee" really wants?

The globalists did NOT build underground cities for our benefit.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2014, 04:30:40 PM »
Who would fire a nuke and why ?

The only scenario that makes any vague sense too me is that if ukranian nut jobs do a false flag.

The public in the west are really dumb enough to buy that Russia would detonate a nuke in its own back yard on some of its best real estate.


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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2014, 04:31:28 PM »
This is daft.

All Russia wants is its citizens not to be beaten up by nazi thugs, and to keep its one and only useless southern port.



Bingo !

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2014, 04:36:41 PM »


Is this what John Schindler and his "20committee" really wants?

You know what '20 Committee' translates into?

The DOUBLE CROSS committee.  XX Committee.

If you are an enemy of this 'constitutional Republic' like Benedict Arnold, wouldn't you call your committee the "double cross' committee?

http://20committee.com/about/
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2014, 04:40:03 PM »
Ukraine is way out of our territory. What does Ukraine have to do with situation over here on this side of the planet?  As many have speculated the answer looks like the fiat currency is going bad as always repeatedly happens and they need illogical wars for smoke cover. Freud-fraud corruption and death.

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2014, 04:41:47 PM »
Who would fire a nuke and why ?

The only scenario that makes any vague sense too me is that if ukranian nut jobs do a false flag.

The public in the west are really dumb enough to buy that Russia would detonate a nuke in its own back yard on some of its best real estate.



I'm already freaking out how the West NWO block is escalating this Ukraine fake revolution almost like a replay of the 1939 invasion of Poland.

Stay tuned for your 'reasons why'.  We 'truthers' are going to have to keep exposing the fact that the US / EU want the war to save their own asses to everyone.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2014, 04:43:03 PM »
I'm already freaking out how the West NWO block is escalating this Ukraine fake revolution almost like a replay of 1939 invasion of Poland.

Stay tuned for your 'reasons why'.  We 'truthers' are going to have to keep exposing the fact that the US / EU want the war to save their own asses to everyone.

just remember this, every time they talk about Russian Troops Invading the Crimea

Under the Treaty Agreement

Russia is allowed to station the following in the Crimea in Ukraine, and these forces have freedom of movement.

25,000 Military Personnel
161 Aircraft
388 Warships


Invasion, my arse.


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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2014, 04:44:39 PM »
just remember this, every time they talk about Russian Troops Invading the Crimea


... and NATO has NO treaty obligation to help Ukraine.  HOWEVER, the EU and US are acting as if they do.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2014, 04:45:24 PM »
The globalists did NOT build underground cities for our benefit.

Those underground cities are nothing more than carrot sticks on a string for the very gullible. I'm talking about the people on the "inside" who think they're going to a comfortable life underground and watch tv and play video games.


Durrr at least we'll have a starbucks underground!

Unless they plan on never coming up and instead building and maintaining a secret hermit society underground for the next 100 years, underground cities and bunkers on serve a limited role. Back when we were using conventional weapons during most of WWII we only had to worry about explosions and if you survived the explosion you could come up, clean up and fight another day.

Nuclear war like radiological & biological war is quite different because it leaves lingering affects for years or even centuries.

Eventually the people in those bunkers will have to come out for food, water but if the food is dying and the water is poisoned it becomes pointless. No matter how much food or supplies they stockpile, 1 year, 2 years or 20 years later the conditions will be the same on the surface and the food will run out by then even if they ration.




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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2014, 04:48:07 PM »
Those underground cities are nothing more than carrot sticks on a string for the very gullible. I'm talking about the people on the "inside" who think they're going to a comfortable life underground and watch tv and play video games.


Durrr at least we'll have a starbucks underground!

Unless they plan on never coming up and instead building and maintaining a secret hermit society underground for the next 100 years, underground cities and bunkers on serve a limited role. Back when we were using conventional weapons during most of WWII we only had to worry about explosions and if you survived the explosion you could come up, clean up and fight another day.

Nuclear war like radiological & biological war is quite different because it leaves lingering affects for years or even centuries.

Eventually the people in those bunkers will have to come out for food, water but if the food is dying and the water is poisoned it becomes pointless. No matter how much food or supplies they stockpile, 1 year, 2 years or 20 years later the conditions will be the same on the surface and the food will run out by then even if they ration.





You assume these NWO puppet masters actually think rationally?   ;)
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2014, 04:48:55 PM »
You assume these NWO puppet masters actually think rationally?   ;)

Good point :)

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2014, 04:52:59 PM »
You know what '20 Committee' translates into?

The DOUBLE CROSS committee.  XX Committee.

If you are an enemy of this 'constitutional Republic' like Benedict Arnold, wouldn't you call your committee the "double cross' committee?

http://20committee.com/about/

The Double-Cross System, or XX System, was a World War II anti-espionage and deception operation of the British military intelligence arm, MI5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-Cross_System

So, is Mr. XX a redcoat Benedict Arnold?  
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2014, 04:59:24 PM »
... and NATO has NO treaty obligation to help Ukraine.  HOWEVER, the EU and US are acting as if they do.

Memorandum Budapest, 5 December 1994 ( Ukraine )

Clearly the EU + USA have already broken Article 3

3 The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.



http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances


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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2014, 05:02:53 PM »
... and NATO has NO treaty obligation to help Ukraine.  HOWEVER, the EU and US are acting as if they do.

We ONLY trigger the Treaty if Nuclear Weapons Are USED

Article 4 The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.



http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2014, 05:04:35 PM »
Sorry to go all heavy like with the legal shite, but the politicians are lying.

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2014, 05:08:27 PM »
Who would fire a nuke and why ?

The only scenario that makes any vague sense too me is that if ukranian nut jobs do a false flag.

The public in the west are really dumb enough to buy that Russia would detonate a nuke in its own back yard on some of its best real estate.



As I see it, Ukraine leadership will formally ask Russia to completely withdraw from Crimea then officially declare war on Russia when that doesn't happen. They will then start engaging in a hot shooting war with Russian troops in Crimea.

Russia will send in more ground troops, NATO/US will deploy forces including anti ballistic missile technology in Ukraine to "defend its sovereignty" and when this happens be prepared to flee or stockpile as much as you can because it'll probably turn nuclear within a month.

The moment there is a direct hit from Russia or US on territories occupied by either country, there will be an declaration of war between Russia and the US.

This is when all forces on both sides will go on full alert, nukes will go on the ready and ...the rest is in God's hand.





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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2014, 05:16:49 PM »
There will be no WW3.  :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/world/europe/russia-to-pay-not-so-simple.html?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=articlehttp://

FLASHBACK:
The Neutrality Acts were passed by the United States Congress in the 1930's (1939 after Germany invaded Poland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_Acts_of_1930s 
You see how that worked out.

What we need is a new Pearl Harbor event Mr. Cheney.   ;)
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2014, 05:18:16 PM »
As I see it, Ukraine leadership will formally ask Russia to completely withdraw from Crimea then officially declare war on Russia when that doesn't happen. They will then start engaging in a hot shooting war with Russian troops in Crimea.

Russia will send in more ground troops, NATO/US will deploy forces including anti ballistic missile technology in Ukraine to "defend its sovereignty" and when this happens be prepared to flee or stockpile as much as you can because it'll probably turn nuclear within a month.

The moment there is a direct hit from Russia or US on territories occupied by either country, there will be an declaration of war between Russia and the US.

This is when all forces on both sides will go on full alert, nukes will go on the ready and ...the rest is in God's hand.

I hear what you are saying.

Problem is that Russia does not and will not recognize the unelected govt. Also, I suspect that the Russian Army can and will move fast, like it did in Georgia / Ossetia.

Have we secretly given the Nazi Ukrainians some game changer ?

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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2014, 05:45:32 PM »
As I see it, Ukraine leadership will formally ask Russia to completely withdraw from Crimea then officially declare war on Russia when that doesn't happen. They will then start engaging in a hot shooting war with Russian troops in Crimea.

Russia will send in more ground troops, NATO/US will deploy forces including anti ballistic missile technology in Ukraine to "defend its sovereignty" and when this happens be prepared to flee or stockpile as much as you can because it'll probably turn nuclear within a month.

The moment there is a direct hit from Russia or US on territories occupied by either country, there will be an declaration of war between Russia and the US.


This is when all forces on both sides will go on full alert, nukes will go on the ready and ...the rest is in God's hand.



Look for those warning signs and make preparations to either leave the US, UK, Canada, Russia, China, Hong Kong and surrounding regions and live in a neutral country or button down and stockpile if you can't afford to leave.

I have a sick feeling we've been groomed for nuclear war for the past decade and its going to happen very soon.



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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2014, 05:48:56 PM »
USA wants to send international forces to Ukraine Everything is cool when you're part of a team!
http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/02-03-2014/126975-usa_ukraine-0/

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Security Council, Samantha Power, in her speech at a meeting convened at the request of Kiev, offered to immediately send international observers into the country. Representatives of 15 countries took part in the closed meeting. Vitaly Churkin represented the Russian Federation.

Power stated that Russia must come into direct contact with the Ukrainian authorities. She also said that one should put an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. For this purpose, the U.S. ambassador offers to send international observers from the UN and the OSCE to the troubled country. According to the U.S. official, it will reduce tension.

UK Ambassador Lyall Grant, in turn expressed concerns about the most recent move of the Russian parliament to authorized military action on the territory of Ukraine, and stressed that the United Kingdom supported the current government of Ukraine. The British side also acceded to the request for immediate consultations under the Budapest Treaty between the United States, Britain, Russia and Ukraine.
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2014, 05:53:44 PM »
Thousands demonstrating as Russian flags are raised in eastern Ukrainian cities
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Between 7,000 and 10,000 demonstrators gathered in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donestk.  There protestors crowded into Lenin Square and raised Russian flags with the phrase, "Donestk Stands With Russia".

According to RT, as the Ukrainian flags were taken down and Russian flags were raised above the building, small white flags of surrender were flown out the windows of the administration building.
http://benswann.com/thousands-demonstrating-as-russian-flags-are-raised-in-eastern-ukrainian-cities/



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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2014, 06:01:11 PM »


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And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died
And the General sat, as the lines on the map
moved from side to side
Black and Blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and Down
And in the end it's only round and round and round
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
the poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside
Down and Out
It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
With, without
And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
Get out of the way, it's a busy day
And I've got things on my mind
For want of the price of tea and a slice
The old man died

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2014, 06:01:24 PM »
Thousands demonstrating as Russian flags are raised in eastern Ukrainian cities
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Between 7,000 and 10,000 demonstrators gathered in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donestk.  There protestors crowded into Lenin Square and raised Russian flags with the phrase, "Donestk Stands With Russia".

According to RT, as the Ukrainian flags were taken down and Russian flags were raised above the building, small white flags of surrender were flown out the windows of the administration building.
http://benswann.com/thousands-demonstrating-as-russian-flags-are-raised-in-eastern-ukrainian-cities/



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What does the Soros / Zbigniew Brzezinski crowd think they are going to accomplish with this war escalation?

How are you going to motivate Australians / Canadians / Europeans / US Sheeple into a greater war with Russia and most likely China when these countries have major problems that need to be address from WITHIN those countries?

What have the Banksters planned?  
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2014, 06:30:41 PM »
Personally I think Putin and Obama , Kerry , Rice and Clinton are ail under the same flag and 5th column elements within the US state department are leading sheeples to a slaughter.

Putin faces down Obama over Ukraine

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/01/352833/putin-faces-down-obama-over-ukraine/

American exceptionalism has gone into overdrive with stern warnings from US President Barack Obama to Russia to respect Ukrainian sovereignty and to not destabilize the region.

By "American exceptionalism" we mean Washington's seemingly unlimited capacity for exceptional arrogance and double think.
Under the existing military lease of the naval base at Crimea's Sevastopol, Russia is permitted to station thousands of troops on the Peninsula, and Moscow has in the past routinely engaged in maneuvers there.

However, it is stretching naivety to believe Moscow's claims that the recent surge in military movements is merely "routine". The Crimean activity coincides with other large-scale mobilization of Russian troops as well as military aircraft on Russia's broader border with Ukraine.

But here's the laughable irony of Obama's protestations. The latest apparent Russian military moves follow months of US-sponsored destabilization in Ukraine. This illegal and covert American interference has trampled all over Ukrainian sovereignty, which ironically Obama is now accusing his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin of doing.

Since Ukraine spurned a tentative trade agreement with the European Union at the end of last November, street protests have escalated in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. Washington and its European allies, including Britain, France and Germany, have done everything to escalate these protests, from high-profile political statements to clandestine military infiltration through the organs of the CIA. The demonstrations in Kiev quickly took on a quasi-military character with sinister fascist elements using firearms and other forms of violence to seize and occupy government buildings. That rapidity betrays the pre-meditated external nature of the "protests".

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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2014, 06:35:50 PM »
There will be no WW3.  :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/world/europe/russia-to-pay-not-so-simple.html?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=articlehttp://

Ya, I agree. NO NUKES at this time and here’s why.

I believe the global financial oligarchy has as much control of Russia as they do the US.

They have now spent a great deal of time and money to construct a world-wide interdependent economy. A major nuclear exchange would destroy their basis for control. It would be counter productive and it’s not in their interests.

My prediction: The US/EU will eventually back off militarily and Russia will take over the Ukraine if necessary until Russian-style “normalization” is achieved.

Russia has offered the Ukraine a superior economic deal and the people there are welcoming Russian forces with open arms.

In the meantime, the US/EU has a thready interest at best in Ukranian real estate.

Enjoy the show though. Im sure the media will turn it into a great cliffhanger. Useful for feeding the "strategy of tension" in the homeland.
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2014, 06:36:03 PM »
Analysis: Limited US, European options in Ukraine
By JULIE PACE, AP White House Correspondent : March 1, 2014 : Updated: March 2, 2014

WASHINGTON (AP) — Despite blunt warnings about costs and consequences, President Barack Obama and European leaders have limited options for retaliating against Russia's military intervention in Ukraine, the former Soviet republic now at the center of an emerging conflict between East and West.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has so far dismissed the few specific threats from the United States, which include scrapping plans for Obama to attend an international summit in Russia this summer and cutting off trade talks sought by Moscow. Because Ukraine does not have full-member status in NATO, the U.S. and Europe have no obligation to come to its defense. And broader international action through the United Nations seems all but impossible, given Russia's veto power as a member of the Security Council.
"There have been strong words from the U.S. and other counties and NATO," said Keir Giles, a Russian military analyst at the Chatham House think tank in London. "But these are empty threats. There is really not a great deal that can be done to influence the situation."
As if to underscore that point, Putin on Saturday requested and was granted permission to use Russia's military not just in the pro-Russian region of Crimea, but also throughout Ukraine. Putin's request came one day after Obama warned that any violation of Ukraine's "sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilizing."
Saturday's developments follow three months of political upheaval in Ukraine following President Viktor Yanukovych's rejection of a partnership agreement with the European Union in favor of historical ties with Moscow. Yanukovych fled Kiev, Ukraine's capital, last week and now is in Russia.
Putin's moves are sure to deepen tensions in his already troubled relationship with Obama, who has struggled to find a formula for getting the Russian leader to change his calculus on a myriad of issues. The White House said the two leaders spoke for 90 minutes Saturday, with Obama warning Putin that Russia's "continued violation of international law will lead to greater political and economic isolation."
American efforts to punish Russia on Ukraine and other matters have been complicated by the White House's need for Russian cooperation on stopping Syria's civil war, negotiating a nuclear accord with Iran, and transporting American troops and equipment out of Afghanistan through Russian supply routes.
"We face a difficult choice of punishing Russia by effectively punishing ourselves," said Andrew Kuchins, the director of the Russia program at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Obama has tried to use his travel plans to Russia as a bargaining chip before, in the hopes that Putin might bend under the threat of a diplomatic embarrassment. Last summer, the White House dangled the prospect of canceling a bilateral summit between Obama and Putin as it pressed Russia to return National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden to the United States.
When Russia instead granted Snowden temporary asylum, Obama canceled his one-on-one meeting with Putin, but still attended an international meeting in St. Petersburg.
U.S. officials say they are in discussions now with European officials about Obama and other leaders possibly skipping the Group of Eight economic summit scheduled for June in Sochi, the site of the just-concluded Winter Olympics. Obama's top advisers gathered at the White House Saturday to discuss other options.
The White House appears to be giving no serious consideration to American military involvement in Ukraine. In his carefully worded statement Friday, Obama avoided saying that a destabilized Ukraine would be a national security concern for the U.S. Instead, he said only that it was "not in the interest of Ukraine, Russia or Europe."
In Europe, officials expressed concern about the Russian military escalation, but offered few specific options for stopping or punishing Putin. The European Union, dealing with its own internal problems, has appeared reluctant to fully embrace troubled Ukraine or risk the economic consequences of confronting Russia, one of its largest trading partners.
"The world is on the verge of a conflict the outcome of which cannot be perceived yet," said Polish Prime Minster Donald Tusk, whose country shares a border with Ukraine. Tusk appealed for Europe to send a "very clear signal" that it will not tolerate acts of aggression, but he did not outline specific steps.
Czech Foreign Minister Lubomir Zaoralek said Russia's attempts to "escalate the situation in Ukraine" reminded him of the 1968 Soviet-led invasion of Czechoslovakia, which crushed liberal reforms and ended an era known as the Prague Spring.

"We don't solve and can't solve disagreements in Europe by force," Zaoralek said.

The U.N. Security Council met for a second straight day to discuss the growing crisis in Ukraine, which has asked four permanent council members — the U.S., Britain, France and China — for help in stopping Russia's "aggression." But Russia, as the fifth permanent member, holds veto power, meaning there would be virtually no chance of getting even a resolution condemning Russian intervention.

EDITOR'S NOTE — Julie Pace has covered the White House for The Associated Press since 2009. Follow Pace at http://twitter.com/jpaceDC

An AP News Analysis




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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2014, 07:25:45 PM »
What does the Soros / Zbigniew Brzezinski crowd think they are going to accomplish with this war escalation?

How are you going to motivate Australians / Canadians / Europeans / US Sheeple into a greater war with Russia and most likely China when these countries have major problems that need to be address from WITHIN those countries?

What have the Banksters planned?  

An educated guess, balkinization and continuous IMF, WTO interference.  The country is already spit by ideology and loyalty, so like so many of the other proxy wars going on the US/NATO will likely follow their play book:  train and arm extremists from within and without of Ukraine; throw hoards of IMF/WTO/US cash at the 'rebels' and their 'legitimate' government (of western hand picked puppets) while US media tows the non-sense globalists propaganda about the suffering going on in Ukraine.

Perhaps China will use the opportunity to push into some of the places they've been aggressively flexed out on too.
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2014, 07:31:22 PM »
BBC News Admits: Death Squads (Hired Mercenaries) Crucifying Ukrainian Protesters
Jan 31, 2014; excerpted:

According to the BBC, a Ukrainian protester who says he was kidnapped and tortured by death squads is being protected from police questioning by the western-backed/controlled “opposition groups”.

According to eyewitnesses who contacted Everard on Twitter, it was “armed thugs” (hired mercenaries) – and not police -  who arrived in black helicopters and started killing protesters en masse. This is even more believable when considering the new information supplied by the BBC: The thugs have Russian accents, which coincides with the Twitter witnesses’ accounts of “Russian mercenaries”. However, are they really funded by Russia, or did someone else hire them to make it look like they were backed by Russia?
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/bbc-news-admits-death-squads-actively-crucifying-dissenters-in-ukraine/
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Re: Offical Delcleration Of War: US / EU Desperate For War With Russia
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2014, 08:18:09 PM »
Ukraine mobilises army as West warns Russia

"As Pro-Moscow gunmen believed to be acting under Kremlin orders tightened their grip on Crimea, a senior US official said Russia now controlled the strategic peninsula that has housed its navies since the 18th century."...

..."the biggest blow to the new Kiev leaders came when Ukrainian Navy Commander Denis Berezovsky announced a day after his appointment that he was switching allegiance to the pro-Russian authorities in Crimea after gunmen surrounded his building and cut off its electricity."
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-navy-chief-switches-allegiance-crimea-pro-russia-172726132.html;_ylt=AwrBJSDxahNTSBEA4VXQtDMD
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