@White Rose Sophie Ė When you got married, did you and your husband have the same God? Did that change during the marriage? This is something that most people donít think of as being that important these days. But the idea of ď...a threefold cord is not quickly broken.Ē came up earlier this week.
Another DING!DING! DING! Funny how you use that quote from Ecclesiastes, I was planning on doing that myself in replying to this thread.
And the answer is no. Neither he or I were Christians. I had a 'relationship' with GOD, and he recognized that I was more 'spiritual' than him, but I was not really 'saved' then. As a matter of fact, I don't count myself a born-again christian until AFTER the divorce proceedings started. Sad, that it took losing almost everything that really mattered to me, before I humbled myself to Almighty GOD and asked for forgiveness, and a relationship with HIS son. After THAT day, I fought the divorce, but it still happened. The thing is - if it took THAT to get me to know Yeshua (losing everything that I truly wanted in Life, ie, husband, home, etc) it was still worth it and I would not undo anything. I'm just sorry that my heart was so hardened, my desire for self-rule so stubborn, that GOD had to resort to THAT to get my attention.
Interestingly, when my ex then starting having problems with WIFE #2 (the girlfriend he had when we were married), he started going to church. I had been praying for him ever since my conversion, because after all, he was still the father of my child. Even when he skipped the country the first time.........came back, then skipped the country again. While he was going to church, he was a different man, and I had high hopes for him because that could only benefit our child, but alas - he was akin to the seed thrown to the ground that first sprouts up, but has no strong roots and subsequently dies when choked by the enemy's machinations. Said machination being another woman, from his own country. Who basically encouraged him to abandon his children and skip the country again, this time for good. Sad, but true. Which brings me to
(once again, a warning for non-christians - this is my belief and does NOT necessarily reflect the beliefs of this site's moderators/owners....
When discussing the 'fall' of man, I find it most interesting when men blame said fall on 'the woman', in reality it was HIS personal choice to disobey GOD. Eve was deceived, but Adam can claim no such excuse, he willingly chose his to follow his wife, rather than to follow the GOD that created him first. Amazing, is it not?
I'm afraid the ladies who frequent this site are not going to like the next bit, but oh well.
The bible refers to women as the 'weaker vessel', and while that is certainly true of upper body physical strength (unless you are a Bulgarian female weightlifter....) I believe that is true in relation to a woman's greater vulnerability to deception. And not just to smooth-talking serpents in a garden. (or serpents on a dance floor or at a political rally)
Why this is so I don't know, but I think it has more to do with the basic differences between men and women. And it has been my experience that this is TRUE. And it goes back to the verse you mentioned previously.....
"Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labor'. For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow; but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.
" Ecclesiastes 4:9-10.
"And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken
". Ecclesiastes 4:12
If you read the record of the fall, the enemy targeted EVE, and therefore 'split' that cord between her, her husband, and GOD. Had the serpent targeted ADAM alone, or the two together, maybe the results might have been different. But he didn't.
The same thing has happened in society, but the vast majority of people are so deceived, they don't see what is going on. And/or they don't realize that it is a spiritual war that is being waged against them, not just an economic/physical one.
TPTB know they must split that threefold cord in order to destroy humanity (because the god they worship has that as his goal), and thus they turn WOMAN against MAN, which weakens the relationship also between MAN and GOD. Not mention the relationship between man and his family/offspring.
And so, we women are deceived into thinking that we don't NEED men anymore, and men are left feeling 'unnecessary' and 'unwanted', and basically just good for a meal ticket. Which, in turn, just results in the inclination toward selfishness on their part. Which then fuels the female disdain for them even more. And it's a vicious cycle that continues to feed on itself......and TPTB cackle hysterically as their master's plan works to fruition.
What can be done? Guess what MEN - You are the ones first "made in the image of GOD", and HE does not make mistakes. It is up to YOU to reclaim your rightful role in society, and in the family, and with GOD. And for those who say there is no GOD, how can you (in your finite understanding of the universe) possibly claim that? You are mortal, flesh and blood, and subject to disease, death, deception, mistakes in judgement,etc. The only way I can see that you can possibly assume your rightful position in this world is with the help of that second 'cord'. The ONE who can pick you up when you fall. And since HIS chain of command in society starts with YOU, only you can affect change. It is you who will be held accountable for your family, as HE has given you both the authority, and the responsibilty. Will it be easy? NO. The descent into where we are now has been a long time in coming, and quite frankly, it can only be reversed when MEN make the decision to become the beings they were created to be. And it is my belief that only HIS son will be able to help you do that. Especially since there are many methods to their madness of EMASCULATING men....it is my opinion that only DIVINE help can counter those.
My past volunteer efforts with battered women's shelters, troubled teenagers, etc has only confirmed the IMPORTANCE of REAL MEN to society. The difference between when women minister to the above vs when MEN minister to them is unbelievable. When men are involved with the children, most of whom have never known real (ie, loving) fathers, the change in behavior is remarkable. They are attentive, much better behaved, and overwhelmingly happier than when only women are present. The importance of a positive MALE figure in a child's life is immeasurable. How can anyone understand the concept of a loving heavenly FATHER, when they have never known any type of unconditional love from a male in their life? Why do many young women from single mother backgrounds specifically gravitate towards older men? It may be the wrong kind of attention they end up with, but at least it's ATTENTION. What about young men who follow the same pattern and end up in that lifestyle? Because they crave male approval. They are looking for what they are missing..... A father.
And to those women out there who think the only way they will ever have children is to have them on their own........Please don't do that to an innocent human being. You are wanting something for YOURSELF, and not thinking about the best thing for that child. If your biological clock is ticking away and you do not have a husband to bring a child into the world, consider adopting one who is already
in the world and is 'unwanted'. A loving, single parent home is a better option than being shunted to foster home after foster home. I have worked with children like that, and it is heartbreaking.
Men, if you are bemoaning the fact that 'AMERICAN WOMEN" are not 'marriage-worthy', you may be looking in the wrong place for those that are. Women who are not promiscuous, who want to be loving wives and mothers, who recognize how important men are to the family unit, who want to be 'helpmates' to one man and who recognize the value of that role, who believe in loyalty,faithfulness, hard work and perseverance.......are not typically found in Bars. And rarely online either. Guess where they are?
But recognize that those type of women, are also looking for those 'type' of men. And not men who just claim it with words.
Now, that I've made both men and woman mad............LET the FLAME WARS begin!!!!