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Offline Edward777

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #280 on: November 12, 2015, 07:57:25 AM »
True, there are lots of us out there with families and love it! No need to be critical of marriage and family just because some people are not doing it right.

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« Reply #281 on: November 12, 2015, 08:22:27 AM »
True, there are lots of us out there with families and love it! No need to be critical of marriage and family just because some people are not doing it right.
Edward777---your statement is priceless and truthful  8)...I just pray that younger folks listen to your wisdom!
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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #282 on: November 17, 2015, 10:35:44 AM »
I remember how on some leftist website people (sub-elites, as Alex Jones calls them) were openly saying family is something of the past, and how children should be bred and raised by the state, allowing for supposed genetic improvement of humanity...
The choice is simple: either God or the world.

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« Reply #283 on: December 29, 2015, 06:32:11 AM »
I remember how on some leftist website people (sub-elites, as Alex Jones calls them) were openly saying family is something of the past, and how children should be bred and raised by the state, allowing for supposed genetic improvement of humanity...

Ever wonder why lesbianism is being advanced throughout social media, music videos and TV?  First, women couples generally only have 1 or 2 kids.  That fits nicely with the NWO on population reduction. Second, lesbians who get sperm donations obviously are getting impregnated by male donors who are screened for desirable eugenic traits. 

Make sense now?

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« Reply #284 on: December 29, 2015, 06:47:35 AM »
All these libtard concoctions and perversions of groupings not families are just breeding grounds for dysfunctional kids and a prison/welfare state.

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #285 on: January 07, 2016, 05:00:37 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/women-us-three-times-more-likely-theyre-bisexual-111059128.html
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Among women, 5.5 percent said they are bisexual, compared to two percent of men.
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Identifying as strictly straight, or having feelings of attraction only to members of the opposite sex, was also more common in men (92 percent) than women (81 percent).
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #286 on: January 08, 2016, 12:24:04 PM »
More and more drug addicted babies are being born to hospitals everywhere.  Some are seeing anywhere between a 50% increase to 100% increase in numbers.  Women choosing the lives of crack whores may be yet another factor.

My Fillipina girlfriend is going to be rich beyond her dreams if she can matchs eligible Fillipinas with American men.  New York and Alaska for starters then the rest of America.

The kicker was it was her idea.

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« Reply #287 on: January 08, 2016, 12:35:25 PM »
Tell ya... Book your next vacation in Trinidad and Tobago.  20:1 girl to guy ratio.

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« Reply #288 on: February 23, 2016, 06:46:02 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/women-us-three-times-more-likely-theyre-bisexual-111059128.html
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Among women, 5.5 percent said they are bisexual, compared to two percent of men.
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Identifying as strictly straight, or having feelings of attraction only to members of the opposite sex, was also more common in men (92 percent) than women (81 percent).

Most women are at least nominally bisexual.  The opinion shapers of society know this and that is why they are pushing lesbian relationships so much -- perfect way to destroy the birthrate.

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« Reply #289 on: April 17, 2016, 08:29:17 AM »
The most basic goal of the left is to destroy traditional concepts of fathers and mothers, then they go after male and female. Once that is accomplished the goal of genocide is far easier to attain, as it is under way in Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA8fgaBSDUw

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« Reply #290 on: June 25, 2016, 03:21:39 PM »
I think its a problem with both Men and Women.

And who has broken them? The powers-that-be.  A man who sees his duty as protecting his family and making for a better future for them is not easy to manipulate. A woman who is a mother and sees her #1 responsibility to protect her family and instill good values in them is hard to manipulate. 

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #291 on: June 25, 2016, 07:16:23 PM »
Secularism: no Christianity - no marriage then no kids.
In Muslims there have not that problem.

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« Reply #292 on: July 17, 2016, 10:07:06 AM »
Secularism: no Christianity - no marriage then no kids.
In Muslims there have not that problem.

True, secularism is the virus that is killing western civilization.

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #293 on: July 17, 2016, 01:45:39 PM »
True, secularism is the virus that is killing western civilization.

Globalist Tavistock/MK-Ultra planned Cultural Familial Destruction


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Family culture is the unique way that a family forms itself in terms of rules, roles, habits, activities, beliefs, and other areas. The racial or ethnic culture in which a family lives may strongly influence family culture. Other families are no longer tied to cultural norms of their ethnic or racial group.Jan 3, 2008
Family Culture
cecp.air.org/wraparound/family.html
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #294 on: July 20, 2016, 02:17:01 PM »
Globalist Tavistock/MK-Ultra planned Cultural Familial Destruction

True - if you BREAK down the family unit and therefore deprive a man of the #1 reason he will fight (to protect his family)....he is MUCH more easier to manipulate, and become passive.  A rope of three cords is hard to break.....(ie, a man, his wife, and G_D).

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« Reply #295 on: July 20, 2016, 02:52:14 PM »
right  this term came up in the 1960's and was the wedge used to break up families... and also destroy family formation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_gap
A generation gap or generational gap, is a difference of opinions between one generation and another regarding beliefs, politics, or values. In today's usage, "generation gap" often refers to a perceived gap between younger people and their parents and/or grandparents.
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Tavistock 1960's MK-Ultra:

The sociological theory of a generation gap first came to light in the 1960s, when the younger generation (later known as Baby Boomers) seemed to go against everything their parents had previously believed in terms of music, values, governmental and political views
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #296 on: July 29, 2016, 09:10:39 AM »
You will probably call me sexist, but I think that giving more and more rights to women and children, discourages men to marry.

How ? The man raised his voice when addressed to his wife and "mild struck disobedient child on the butt" becomes a family bully and be stuck in prison. It will only take a divorce. However, there is alimony, his ex-wife decides when father may visit their child and some women go far away to the father not to approach the child to less than 100 meters.


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« Reply #297 on: July 29, 2016, 11:04:02 AM »
You will probably call me sexist, but I think that giving more and more rights to women and children, discourages men to marry.

How ? The man raised his voice when addressed to his wife and "mild struck disobedient child on the butt" becomes a family bully and be stuck in prison. It will only take a divorce. However, there is alimony, his ex-wife decides when father may visit their child and some women go far away to the father not to approach the child to less than 100 meters.

Having the state included as part of the marriage is all what this is about ... There is a Husband a Wife ( or more) and the State as the second husband. The state can nurture marriages or tear them apart . The communists have used this tool for years in there playbook.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/
The Russian (Soviet) Effort to Abolish Marriage
"Men took to changing wives with the same zest which they displayed in the consumption of the recently restored forty-per-cent vodka"
A Woman Resident in Russia  | July 1926 Issue 

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When the Bolsheviki came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other 'bourgeois' institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it. 'To clear the family out of the accumulated dust of the ages we had to give it a good shakeup, and we did,' declared Madame Smidovich, a leading Communist and active participant in the recent discussion. So one of the first decrees of the Soviet Government abolished the term 'illegitimate children.' This was done simply by equalizing the legal status of all children, whether born in wedlock or out of it, and now the Soviet Government boasts that Russia is the only country where there are no illegitimate children. The father of a child is forced to contribute to its support, usually paying the mother a third of his salary in the event of a separation, provided she has no other means of livelihood.

At the same time a law was passed which made divorce a matter of a few minutes, to be obtained at the request of either partner in a marriage. Chaos was the result.
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #298 on: July 29, 2016, 11:57:06 AM »
Having the state included as part of the marriage is all what this is about ... There is a Husband a Wife ( or more) and the State as the second husband. The state can nurture marriages or tear them apart . The communists have used this tool for years in there playbook.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/
The Russian (Soviet) Effort to Abolish Marriage
"Men took to changing wives with the same zest which they displayed in the consumption of the recently restored forty-per-cent vodka"
A Woman Resident in Russia  | July 1926 Issue 

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When the Bolsheviki came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other 'bourgeois' institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it. 'To clear the family out of the accumulated dust of the ages we had to give it a good shakeup, and we did,' declared Madame Smidovich, a leading Communist and active participant in the recent discussion. So one of the first decrees of the Soviet Government abolished the term 'illegitimate children.' This was done simply by equalizing the legal status of all children, whether born in wedlock or out of it, and now the Soviet Government boasts that Russia is the only country where there are no illegitimate children. The father of a child is forced to contribute to its support, usually paying the mother a third of his salary in the event of a separation, provided she has no other means of livelihood.

At the same time a law was passed which made divorce a matter of a few minutes, to be obtained at the request of either partner in a marriage. Chaos was the result.
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Good lesson from history but that is not a topic.

P.S. After "Stalin" came in power, he stopped policy od destroying family and  marriage between Man and Woman but he did not abolished abortion.   

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #299 on: July 29, 2016, 12:42:47 PM »
Started with the Jacobins in the French revolution...

https://lifetakeslemons.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/divorce-and-the-french-revolution/
Divorce and The French Revolution
 On September 20, 1792, the Legislative Assembly of the French Republic legalized divorce.  This was a first in the country’s history.  Under the Ancien Regime, the unshackling of partners was unthinkable–a move that would potentially crumble the foundation on which the First and Second Estates derived their power.

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Although the Enlightenment initially sparked the divorce debate, it was the French Revolution that succeeded in secularizing family lifePublic institutions sought to invade the very private sentiments of individuals and turn them outward in service of the state.  In the first gasping breaths of the nineteenth century, a backlash developed against this transparency of state and individual, but for 24 years, marriage was viewed as a covenant which could be broken as all secular affairs could be torn down and if desired, rebuilt.  This resulted in 30,000 divorces between 1792 and 1803, the years when the divorce laws remained the most liberal.
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #300 on: July 29, 2016, 04:39:18 PM »
"Marriage" as it's defined today is quite different from how it was defined centuries ago. (And, no, I'm not talking about "gay" marriage.)

"For most of Western history, marriage was a private contract between two families. Until the 16th-century, Christian churches accepted the validity of a marriage on the basis of a couple’s declarations. If two people claimed that they had exchanged marital vows—even without witnesses—the Catholic Church accepted that they were validly married[citation needed].

"Some states in the US hold that public cohabitation can be sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America.[2] Marriage licenses have been required since 1639 in Massachusetts, with their use gradually expanding to other jurisdictions.[3]"




Keep the above in mind while reading the following:

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-racist-origins-of-government-marriage-in-america/

The Racist Origins of Government Marriage in America

Ryan McMaken
LCR Blog
June 18, 2011

A reader sends along this link, and notes:
    Marriage licenses came about in the late 19th century to prevent mixed-race marriages. That should be appalling to anyone, and is in my opinion the strongest argument to privatize marriage.
The linked article makes many points similar to those I made in my article from Friday. And it notes that:
    The American colonies officially required marriages to be registered, but until the mid-19th century, state supreme courts routinely ruled that public cohabitation was sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. By the later part of that century, however, the United States began to nullify common-law marriages and exert more control over who was allowed to marry.

    By the 1920s, 38 states prohibited whites from marrying blacks, “mulattos,” Japanese, Chinese, Indians, “Mongolians,” “Malays” or Filipinos.
At the heart of it all, predictably, is the urge to control the lives of others. White people might marry black people! Horror of horrors. Therefore, the state must get involved. No doubt these arguments in favor of more government meddling were made with an overlying patina of “freedom.” Just as the modern anti-immigration crowd today argues that we must destroy freedom in order to save it, the old racist proponents of government marriage likely argued that we must abolish freedom in marriage or the “Negro agitatuhs” and their dusky-skinned allies will destroy freedom. Conservative “logic” at its best.

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As I've said many times before in other threads, the State has no more rightful business licensing marriages than it has licensing friendships.

So it might be wise for those on the "conservative" side of this issue to consider more carefully just what kind of marriage they presume they're defending.
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« Reply #301 on: August 01, 2016, 04:01:29 AM »
You will probably call me sexist, but I think that giving more and more rights to women and children, discourages men to marry.

How ? The man raised his voice when addressed to his wife and "mild struck disobedient child on the butt" becomes a family bully and be stuck in prison. It will only take a divorce. However, there is alimony, his ex-wife decides when father may visit their child and some women go far away to the father not to approach the child to less than 100 meters.

Hi Al, I haven't been avoiding this thread, I've been beyond busy here
and haven't hardly even had the time to  check my emails.   I don't
like it when I get so busy, too busy, I can't even log into the forum
here. 

I strongly recommend people live together for a full three (3) years
before entertaining the idea of marriage.  Why?  Because when you live
with someone for 3 solid years, there's a good chance in that time frame
a couple will experience all the ups and downs in a day to day relationship
including job loss, monetary difficulties, irritation from meddling parents
(future in-laws) and a host of other relationship "challenges".

If a relationship survives that 3 years and the couple is still madly
in love with each other and has gone through some thick and thin,
then chances are the "marriage" will last, and endure on a positive path.

They say -

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  You parent how you  were parented 

and I see that a lot in society.  You must have been a bad boy
growing up, where your parents had to beat your ass to keep you
in line  ;D   LOL I'm just kidding Al , I need to razz you now and
then, life gets too serious and we all need to lighten it up now and then.

Now to reply to your PM you sent me... 

Be Prepared

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #302 on: October 08, 2016, 05:00:45 PM »
The problem is that people who live together first are no more likely to stay married (in fact less) than those who marry outright. Of course there are variables that must be considered such as religion (those high in religiousity don't tend to live outside of wedlock and are less believing in dicorce than the non-religious).

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« Reply #303 on: January 16, 2017, 10:35:43 AM »
The election of Donald Trump may bring some sanity to this situation. Sure, some feminists will go further left than Swede feminists, but maybe some people only slightly committed to the suicide of the family will re-think it.

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« Reply #304 on: January 16, 2017, 01:15:20 PM »
The election of Donald Trump may bring some sanity to this situation. Sure, some feminists will go further left than Swede feminists, but maybe some people only slightly committed to the suicide of the family will re-think it.
Most young folks, in their 30's, my son and daughter and most of their friends: They DO WANT Family Values back in our Nation: and when Trump takes office, I pray many more of the youth look to the Family as a way of building our Nation back too GOD and Goodness for all...

...the youth are understanding that Values and Morals go Hand in Hand... ;)

...it is better to TIE the knot of Marriage...than to tie a Noose of Lost Love...
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« Reply #305 on: March 12, 2017, 10:16:42 AM »
Most young folks, in their 30's, my son and daughter and most of their friends: They DO WANT Family Values back in our Nation: and when Trump takes office, I pray many more of the youth look to the Family as a way of building our Nation back too GOD and Goodness for all...

...the youth are understanding that Values and Morals go Hand in Hand... ;)

...it is better to TIE the knot of Marriage...than to tie a Noose of Lost Love...


Plato recognized the power of leaders showing virtue by example.

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« Reply #306 on: March 14, 2017, 12:18:03 PM »
Plato recognized the power of leaders showing virtue by example.
Sir; you are Spot On  8)...and this is a Very Serious Issue for our day! No Families---Well then... No Nation!

Parents and Family should lead by The Virtues and Morals in their own lives; and this would show the youth that actions means more than, empty words, with No Good Deeds!

Old Sayin': 'A Truth is only real: When the Word and Deed become ONE!'   ;)
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Common Sense ran away..."

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« Reply #307 on: April 15, 2017, 04:14:47 PM »

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #308 on: April 19, 2017, 11:34:36 AM »
...Just in case anyone didn't know: there's no such thing as 2nd marriage...
The choice is simple: either God or the world.

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Re: Why American men are avoiding marriage.
« Reply #309 on: April 19, 2017, 07:02:18 PM »
...Just in case anyone didn't know: there's no such thing as 2nd marriage...

Interesting point, please extrapolate.


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