Murder cases being exploited to promote more government power via Gun Control

[karzda]

 15 yr old sophmore from my friends highschool shot and killed his father, mother, 13 yr old brother, and 11 yr old brother.

all i know is he got into an arguement with his dad and they dont get along or w.e. when the family fell asleep friday night he took his dads handgun, loaded it, and shot his dad first. he was on the sofa in the den. he then shot his mother and 2 brothers who were in their beds.

he went out with his friends right after he killed his family. he partied all night acting like nothing ever happened. his friends dropped him off sat. evening and he 'discovered' his dead father. after the cops arrived they found the gun in the bushes and the kid broke down and confessed to the killings.

on cbs in a few mins they are doing a story on it so watch it if you want.

heres some links

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/02/03/nick-browning-has-one-hell-of-a-tantrum-kills-4/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4235303&page=1

i knew a lot of the murderers friends etc. so this is hard

heres a pic of him and his 2 younger bros....

[Tyrson]

Not taking My gun cause some kid goes crazy.

Peace

[karzda]

WE NEED r' GUNZ...  ITZ IN TEH CONSTITURSHUNZ ! !!!! !!!!! !!!!!!

[Brocke]

This is really horrible. What a tragedy.

I don't think you will not find much support for the banning of guns here. Belief in the Second Amendment is one of the key issues in the Freedom movement. If you are going to throw out the Second Amendment you might as well burn all the amendments and the Constitution while you are at it.

There were mass murders before guns. If this poor sick kid hadn't had access to a firearm he could have used an ax or poison or natural gas or a hammer or scissors or burned the house down. The list is endless.

My sympathies if you are having a difficult time.

[Red7Paladin]

A lot more people would start dying if guns were banned in America.

[Tyrson]

I'm sorry for the victims, but to say Banning guns is the answer to this tragedy is then to say "someone mowed down people with a car on a crowded street" so take away private transport.

Again sorry for loved ones losses.

It's not that it's in the American Constitution just the idea behind it.
Peace

[jeronimous]

MOLON LABE

[Tyrson]

http://www.molonlabe.com/

Peace

[jeronimous]

Let me guess...he was taking an SSRI, right?

[bootroll]

http://holybible.org/resources/living_learning/fall_1999/provoke_not_children.htm

[UpsetBrit]

Ban guns and you will be like us in the UK. Defenseless and regularly killed by intruders.

[Nailer]

WE NEED r' GUNZ...  ITZ IN TEH CONSTITURSHUNZ ! !!!! !!!!! !!!!!!

You sound like a Clinton supporter  or a communist.  Its a fact people kill other people , guns are used as a tool  NOT the other way around.
The problem is everyone wants to blame the GUN and forget about the person who used it.  BAN GUNS??  If they do so you will see a Civil War start and it will not be pretty.

I own my share of weapons  and no matter how angry I have become I Never even thought about using a weapon  as a solution to my problem.
It all comes down to common sense and self control and as the old saying goes " think before you act".

[EchelonMonitor]

I can almost guarantee that he was on anti-depressants or some form of psycho-tropic drug.

Anti-depressants and psycho-tropics are what should be banned.

Btw, I used to think the same way about guns, until Bush came along to convince me we need our guns for protection from Bush and his gang members.

[bennyxbo]

Was it a silenced .22? how did no one awake during the killing spree? neighbours ?

[Bozer]

Sorry for the tragedy.

We don't need to ban guns.  We need to ban bad parenting and any psychotropic drugs the kid was on.  I'd be willing to bet he was taking some sort of prescription for depression, etc.  Any info on that?

[LIbertAS]

If guns were banned he would've used a baseball bat, knife, etc. Banning guns is not the solution. 

[Nailer]

Was it a silenced .22? how did no one awake during the killing spree? neighbours ?

A .22 can be silenced by using a empty 20 .oz coke bottle over the barrel.  The young man who committed these killings was probably on some type of presciption drug .
If he was taking drugs ,it should not be an excuse for such violence.  Blame the Drugs, Blame  bad parenting, blame society, that is the problem everybody wants to play the blame game and not the truth.

FACT: the boy murdered his family.  Punishment should be the death penalty and not 10-20yrs on death row, the sentence should be carried out within 30 days of being found guilty.
American justice and the people have gone soft on capital punishment and it shows .
I feel for the families relatives and friends , but the case being the young man murdered his family and justice needs to be sought. Real justice that is.  There comes a time when to say "Enough" to soft justice and placing the blame where it does not belong  and yes the truth is not nice but it is the truth.

[dystopia]

How about we take away your car instead since cars kill so many more people?

[creat3d]

About capital punishment... I don't think death is much "punishment". Rotting in a cell for
the rest of your life, that's punishment.

[Phineas]

people need to be more responsible for christ sake, you dont leave a running chainsaw on the coffe table for your kid to pick up do you? man people are really getting lazy and stupid. secure your weapons ffs.

[jimwill]

friday night he took his dads handgun, loaded it, and shot his dad first

He would have gotten the gun, regardless what his parents did. He WANTED TO KILL. The best security of a gun is education, not locks!

Sure, take away all the guns - then the criminals will make zip guns - so take away the ammo too - then they will make homemade black powder pipe bombs - so take away the pipes - they can still get acids, from a car battery if nowhere else. The only other thing you can do is to destroy all civilization (electricity, cars, medical, - everything). But then they will just pick up a tree limb and club people to death! I repeat - if a person is crazy enough to kill they WILL get the means.

[Nailer]

About capital punishment... I don't think death is much "punishment". Rotting in a cell for
the rest of your life, that's punishment.

Yeah you want to support this with tax dollars , death row inmate costs per yr average is $45,000   now times that by 10-20yrs.  a milion dollars spent to house,feed,clothe, guard some low life scumbag who murdered someone. what if the person they murdered was your wife/husband/child/relative or friend?  I would rather see them put to death than my tax dollars feeding the Bast#rd.

[larsonstdoc]

   IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS INTERESTED IN OUR WELL BEING THEY WOULD BAN THE SSRI DRUGS AND THE VACCINES AND THE FLUORIDE.  PROZAC IS 94% FLUORIDE. 

[Toxiq]

I agree they don't say whether or not he was on medication. If so couldn't we consider a ban drugs rather than guns?

[DrussRob]

A fellow that used to work for me told me a story the other day about how his cousin in Georgia who was living with his grandmother went a tad apey and killed the grandmother by stabbing her repeatedly in the temple with a cooking type spoon.

Given the potential for becoming a deadly weapon of murder it is apprent now what must be done!

BAN ALL SPOONS NOW!

stop the madness... *sniff*

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Let me guess...he was taking an SSRI, right?

My thaughts exactly.

[Susan Graham]

I agree they don't say whether or not he was on medication. If so couldn't we consider a ban drugs rather than guns?

Most likely any drug he was using was not only legal but prescribed.  Maybe even insisted and forced upon him by the Grand Public School Overlords. 

Banning drugs hasn't exactly been successful, unless you are looking to increase the abuse (and the resulting disastrous results) of toxic substances.  Certainly it has proved incredibly useful in destroying communities, families and individual lives. 

[ED]

If he didn't have that gun, he would have used a baseball bat, knife, taser, etc.

Banning guns will not save lives.

[hellcatjr]

A lot more people would start dying if guns were banned in America.

Spot on.

People wanna target the weapons, that's fine, but he could of did this with a knife, with a sling shot, with a whatever he could have found at the time to 'take out' his victims.

People act like this shit doesn't happen more frequently, but it does, and there are far more horror stories that never make the front lines, all we hear about is Some preppy ass college girl lost because she didn't know the rules of life, I.E. know your surroundings, don't become 'too' comfortable around strangers, and now shes fish bait. Any coincidence?

You can't blame everything else for someones actions, the gun didn't stand up, load itself, and drop into the fifteen year old kids hands.

You wanna know why this shit happens, look at society. We openly talk about killing each other in passing, the vernacular used by our youth.. wake the hell up seriously.

More black ops to strip our guns, and they can try to do so from my cold, dead hands.

[theonlyROXDOG]

WE NEED r' GUNZ...  ITZ IN TEH CONSTITURSHUNZ ! !!!! !!!!! !!!!!!

I am truly sorry that this troubled young man did this. Its is very sad....but you are an imbecile. Come and get them, bootlicker....

Side note: I bet the kid was on scrips....

[jimwill]

Just last week here in Oklahoma, there was a 44 year old lady that was killed by her adopted 15 year old son. A journal that she was writing for him was found where she told him that she really loved him and hoped for the best of life for him. As far as I know the punk didn't even have any remorse! He and a school buddy had planned to kill her and then his buddies father! I don't know if he was on any drugs (prescription or not), but it has been decided to try both boys as adults. A co-worker of mine, who used to be a cop, knew the family and said that a life sized picture of her should be hung across the from the cell, where the punk can see it every time he looks up!

Ban the guns, no, I don't think so! And murder is already against the law, regardless of what you use to do the killing!

[rio]

What about criminals, who will always find a way to get guns, when what will we do?

[lord edward coke]

What about criminals, who will always find a way to get guns, when what will we do?

exactly  outlaw guns and only 'outlaws' will have them.

[Doctor No NWO]

I think weak minds should be ban from watching TV... at least  the effects of the Prozac etc will have no Mind-control trigger mechanism to function with... But then again the NWO has all these kill programs embedded in PC games & even in Music Videos, You can't blame this tragedy on a Gun, Guns don't Act on there own,  Did you know Swords, Spears & Arrows have kill more people in history than Guns, so why not ban TV etc & the rest of it for influencing violent behaviour?

A better world start with better understanding of the evil that is influencing violent behaviour,
Why is All this evil happening around you?
What is the cause of it?
Just Ask the NWO & they will says its all Good... Good for the NWO!

Think about that the next time you play those NWO programed Mind-control PC games 

[37]

When they give up theirs, I'll give up mine.  I blame poor parenting.  A responsible parent would have locked his guns in a safe.  That kid could have beat his family to death with a baseball bat.  Would we be banning baseball bats?  

[SlaveState]

I'd rather ban SSRIs because I'd say there is a 90% chance that he was on one.

Of course, they'll blame the gun.

P.S. I'd say about .01% of people here support a gun ban. You can't pick and choose the freedoms YOU think people should have.

[Damascus]

You cannot blame inanimate objects. Your brain is your only weapon everything else is just a tool. You cannot force all the blame on either individual responsibility nor systemic or environmental factors. All these factors combine to produce these tragedies. Don't just blame video games, don't just blame movies, don't just blame drugs(legal or other wise), don't just blame bad parenting or lack ofindividual responsibility. All of these things interact and any one factor individually would not lead to murder.

[thrashbassist]

That's rich, let's give up our guns and tell our government "I trust you to be the only ones with firearms because I know I can rely on you to protect me and not oppress me. Also, I'm completely oblivious to the fact that most criminals obtain firearms illegally, and gun control will only affect law-abiding citizens."

Tell me, karzda, would you give up your right to bear arms despite the fact that we're heading full speed into a police state?

[Susan Graham]

Your brain is your only weapon everything else is just a tool.

Unless you're a NWO minion, where you've handed over your brain to be used as their tool.  In which case, you are pretty much disarmed.

[redhatchbox]

Unless you're a NWO minion, where you've handed over your brain to be used as their tool.  In which case, you are pretty much disarmed.