What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2017, 09:01:12 AM »
The FBI report on their interview with Dyson IMO shows why Bayoumi had him come along.....

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

Bayoumi suggested they go to "the restaurant", after he met with Thumairy, because Bayoumi said he had been there before and it served halal food. But he "had trouble" finding it, and when he did, it wasn't a restaurant anymore but a meat market. But a restaurant just up the street served halal food. So it was just "a coincidence" he met the hijackers there. He has a witness. Dyson.

Thats interesting. I wouldnt have thought of it. Thats a very conspiratorial suggestion.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2017, 11:11:29 AM »
Thats interesting. I wouldnt have thought of it. Thats a very conspiratorial suggestion.

No - it would be an obvious reason actually. It was mentioned in the FBI report I linked to, Dyson was asked about this possibility and according to the report thought that if Bayoumi was good, it's possible, because he also heard Bayoumi made fun of him behind his back(Bayoumi was already thought of as an Intelligence Agent by the FBI before 9/11)......... 

When asked if he could have been used by______________in some way concerning this meeting, ___________said he did not think so. However, due to what happened on September 11, 2001 he now believes that there is a remote possibility. Regarding whether he was used in an manner, such as for an alibi or cover, in any of____________ activities, __________said if he was used for this purpose he never realized it and___________did a good job. ______________noted that he heard from his ex-wife, ________that ___________ was making fun of___________behind his back. He never knew whether to believe it.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2017, 12:55:08 PM »
The problem is that the only possible reason for taking someone along as an alibi is if you know these two people you meet are bad people and one day you are gonna be asked about it. That is a highly conspiratorial thing to do. it suggests Bayoumi was aware of the 9/11 attacks or something similar back in Jan 2000 and you must remember he was working for the Saudi consulate, so it would follow they knew as well. Yet the current story is it was accidental, there was no support network and the Saudis wernt involved. It is quite a leap from the official version to this level of conspiring. However it is a shame it cant be proven.

Consider though if you will another story. Similar to the California story and also involving Aulaqi but this time the support network is in New Jersey and Virginia. A man named Eyad al-Rababah performs a smilier role to Al Bayoumi and he does so at the direction of a mysterious Syrian man "with contacts at the Saudi Embassy," supposedly named Daoud Chehazeh. Like Bayoumi, Rababah tries to pass off a similar story of coincidental meeting, this time at a 7-11. However here, agents are more persistent and the truthful story actually emerges. Al Rababah admits he infact met the men in the mosque.

https://www.scribd.com/document/19414261/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-Bukowski-Bob-11-6-03-00351

Note the similarities again with Bayoumi's story. Dyson even admits they travelled to the mosque after the chance meeting in a restaurant. So we know they were at a mosque that day they had the meeting.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2017, 01:35:53 PM »
Your linked document provides phone numbers called by Bayoumis phone
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-04-15-FBI-LHM-omar-al-bayoumi2.pdf

202-342-3700

This number was called 30 times. These calls were made durlng the period of 01/19/2000 to 03/24/2000. The average duration of
calls was 3.5 minutes.
In additicn, this number was called 21 times from 07/21/1998 to 07/08/1999. The average duration of these calls was 5 minutes with the longest call being 32 minutes.

There is a result in a lookup database for this number, unlike most of them.
https://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/phone/2023423700/ps

Abdelmoniem Mohamed, Age 57
He used the address: 3713 George Mason Falls Church, VA 22041
And he used to live in Mountain View, Ca.

It is interesting then that Osama Basnan used to live at 3709
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2017, 11:06:32 AM »
The Saudis tried to blame Iraq for the OKC bombing. Do you think somebody over there might have had it in for Saddam?

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Two Saudi Arabian intelligence officials called former CIA officers on the day of April 19 and suggested that the attack had been sponsored by Iraqi intelligence. The phone calls are recounted in "Others Unknown," a book published by McVeigh's defense attorney. These calls appear to be the origin of what would eventually become an elaborate conspiracy theory purporting that the OKC bombing was sponsored by Iraq.
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/okc-overview.html#9

What was the purpose of Mohamed Jamal Khalifahs trip to the US in 1994 to meet with Mohammed Loay Bayazid? I dont suppose the Saudi benevolence network has ties to OKC as well, does it.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2017, 08:57:04 PM »
Here is a message left on an alt message board on August 24th 1998. The author appears to be at the UCSD. He is demanding mujahideen supporters call the Saudi embassy numbers to complain. At least one of the numbers Bayoumi made multiple calls to is listed there.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.president.clinton/22NMz-4dMuM

Could there be an innocent explanation for all these Bayoumi phone calls?
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