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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2015, 04:43:44 PM »
It was the U.S. Government keeping this information from the public while convincing the public to kill Iraqi's, and give up their rights. They were co-conspirators. That's not an easy pill for most Americans to swallow.

September 8, 2015
Congressmen Reiterate Call for Release of 9/11 Secrets

When Congressman Thomas Massie first arrived in Washington, DC as a freshman from Kentucky, a long-tenured North Carolinian, Walter Jones, asked him an intriguing question.

“He said, ‘Did you realize there’s 28 pages of the 9/11 report that never been released, but as a congressman, you can go read them in a secret room?’,” Massie recalled on The Tyler Cralle Show

“I go read them…...they’re the most consequential pages in the thousand page report.”

Jones, joining Massie in his discussion with host Tyler Cralle, said, “There’s a lot of information (in the 28 pages) the American people and the 9/11 families have a right to see. The American people cannot trust a government that will not let them see information on one of the worst tragedies in America.”

The pages—an entire chapter of the joint inquiry report—were classified by the Bush White House. “After reading those pages, I will tell you that I can understand (why)…because the Bush admin was very close to the Saudis, if you remember.

Noting the resolution has attracted a modest 18 cosponsors to date, Massie said, “Trust me, it’s a dangerous thing to cosponsor this because they want to keep this under the rug.”

“I did not do what I should have done to read and find out whether Bush was telling us the truth about Saddam being responsible for 9/11 and having weapons of mass destruction. Because I did not do my job then, I helped kill 4,000 Americans and I will go to my grave regretting that.”  --Congressman Walter Jones
http://28pages.org/2015/09/08/congressmen-reiterate-call-for-release-of-911-secrets/

But there are other questions here, and they involve the story of how the Bush administration sought to suppress evidence that would reveal how much it knew of the attack plot —and didn’t do anything to stop it.
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/bush-administration-covered-saudi-connection-911/

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2015, 05:00:41 PM »
Hani Hanjour, Khalid Almihdhar, and Nawaf Alhazmi had checked into the Marriott Residence Inn in Herndon, Virginia, on September 10th 2001. All three men were Saudi nationals. They were on flight 77 into the Pentagon in the morning. Hani was the pilot.

Also on September 10th 2001, a Saudi man named Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen checks in to the Marriott Residence Inn. He was apparently at another hotel but moved to this one.

Hussayen is interviewed by the FBI shortly after 9/11, but according to testimony from an FBI agent, the interview is cut short when Hussayen feigns a seizure, prompting the agents to take him to a hospital, where the attending physicians find nothing wrong with him. The FBI recommends that Hussayen should not be allowed to leave until a follow-up interview could occur. According to authors Joe and Susan Trento, “Because of pressure from Saudi ambassador to the US Prince Bandar on the Bush administration" the FBI is overruled.

Bandars wife, Princess Haifa gave between $51,000 and $73,000 to two Saudi families in California who may have financed these two hijackers. All of this could be germane to the classified 28 pages.

Hussayen in fact leaves the country around the time as a whole host of other saudis. About 140 Saudis, including around 24 members of the bin Laden family, are passengers in these flights, starting September 14th-19th. The story about the extent of his FBI debriefing is vague, there could have been days for follow up interviews but I just can't find any FBI records on him.

Hussayen was in fact a long time director of the SAAR foundation. There are many many Islamic religious charities but they seemed to be all run by one coordinating organisation which was the SAAR foundation. So effectively money going to the Jihad, including in Afghanistan, through the 80s and 90s was overseen by SAAR. Hussayen was a director there in the 1990s. In 2001 he had arrived again in the US in August and was touring a variety of charities in the country.

A few months after 9/11 Hussayen is then made a minister of the Saudi government and named President of the Affairs of the Holy Mosques.

Also his cousin a graduate student at the University of Idaho, is later arrested on charges of visa fraud and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. Though found not guilty, the arrest had something to do with IANA, an organization which was apparently expressly advocating suicide attacks and using airliners as weapons in the months before 9/11.

Sheikh Hussayen died Friday 5 April 2013, taking any secrets he had to his grave with him. Efforts to declassify the 28 Pages began in December of 2013.

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« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2015, 05:06:10 PM »
They already have an established contact at LA. Working for the Saudi Government at their embassy in LA with diplomatic status-Fahad Al-Thumairy.

From FBI Investigation:

Information from FBI New York has revealed that on 12/31/1999, SAID SALEH BIN ATTASH, aka "KHALLAD" was a passenger from Bangkok to Los Angeles. Bin Attash is the alleged mastermind behind the bombing of USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. NewYork indicated that they had no record of Bin Attash actually entering the United States from that flight. New York opined that certain diplomatic arrangements exist at various airports which allow diplomats to meet incoming foreign nationals at the baggage carousels. New York opined that it may have been possible that someone from the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles may have met Khallad and escorted him through customs.
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

Based on a "need to know" basis, I doubt that KSM or Attash even knew who Bayoumi was. Bayoumi was brought on board by Al-Thumairy. The reason these guys(Attash-KSM-Binalshibh) are stuck in Gitmo being tortured for decades is so we can never put Attash or KSM on the stand for questions. The 9-11 commission said the CIA told them that under interrogation KSM denied knowing Al-Bayoumi. But that isn't the question. The question for Attash and KSM is their relationship with Thumairy.

This CIA Doc. shows that Thumairy is indeed in contact with Attash.

Bin Attash was seen in the company of Los Angeles-based Sunni Extremists ____________________________________________Fahad al-(Thumairy)" -- page 96/355
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/CIA-911-Binder1.pdf

Thanks for this. Weird how I had no idea Khallad bin Attash travelled to LA with the other two. This must be a leading contends for what is being kept secret.

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2015, 08:35:11 AM »
Have you read the book "False Flag 911 How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" by Philip Marshall: (Yes, the 28 pgs needs to be released. However, as long as you have Clintons, Bushes, Obamas (or their buddies who keep their secrets) in the White House or in high places in government, they will never expose their own treasonous acts nor will they ever be punished for those treasonous acts.)
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2015, 07:12:34 PM »
Have you read the book "False Flag 911 How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" by Philip Marshall

His book I read had a different title but I think it's essentially the same thing....

The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror
http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboozle-War-Terror/dp/1468094580

He's one of the few people who have studied the Joint Inquiry Report, and realizes how damning it actually is. I don't agree with some speculations he has but consider it one of the better books factually out there and was glad to see at least somebody else covering these issues. What a sad weird ending for him and his family.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2016, 05:13:51 AM »
Trump and Jeb Argue About George W. Bush, Iraq, and 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cxTaaNZrw

Hey, Jeb- if you think Trump is being mean by calling your brother a liar, what do you think will happen when he reads the 28 pages that show he's also a traitor?

Press Conference to Declassify the 28 Pages of the Congressional Joint Inquiry Report on 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKRExGJXhH0

Jeb Bush: "I Don't Know What The 28 Pages Are"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2ZvGL9Www

Sure you don't. Unfortunately, your poll numbers say you won't get your hands on them. If Trump becomes president, maybe he will declassify them for you. 

Exclusive: Jeb Bush Mocks 9/11 Victims' Families
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lskMwrLuwWM

"Stop being mean or I'll call my mommy"


For those that aren't aware of this yet check it out...

www.JebBush.com

LoL!

Jeb, you are to stupid to be president. Registering websites such as the one above should have been common sense if running for president with millions of dollars.
 
You walked into a trap. You brought George Bush Al Saud into the debate. Let's discuss a cover-up. Do you know what treason means?
Your brother had more US Patriots killed in Iraq than his Terrorist partners had killed on 9/11.

The September 11 attacks killed 2,996 people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks

Military Fatalities By Year
Total 4495

http://icasualties.org/

Documented civilian deaths from violence

152,253 – 172,281

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Mass murder and treason is not very nice.

February 16, 2016
In his most political speech since he left office in 2009, George W. Bush said voters should choose a candidate who is "measured and thoughtful" over the loudest and angriest man in the room.

In a speech that was largely centered around national security and terrorism, Bush reflected on the attacks of September 11, 2001 -- and the "tough calls" he had to make in the days that followed — as he presented his brother as the most "measured and thoughtful" candidate in the GOP pack.


"When Americans woke up on September 11, we did not know that the world was forever changed that day," Bush said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/15/politics/george-w-bush-jeb-bush-south-carolina/

Welcome to the debates George! I think Trump's been expecting you!

Posted on February 17, 2016
Donald Trump on 9/11: "You Will Find Out Who Really Knocked Down The World Trade Center"

At a Wednesday morning campaign event in Bluffton, SC, Donald Trump takes his relitigation of the Bush administration's record on 9/11 and Iraq to the next level, seeming to imply that we don't currently know who "really" committed the 9/11 attacks.

Trump says if he is elected: "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center."

"It wasn't the Iraqis," he explained. "You may find it's the Saudis."

"They have papers in there that are very secret," he also said, referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. "But you will find out."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/17/trump_you_will_find_out_who_really_knocked_down_the_world_trade_center_secret_papers_may_blame_saudis.html

referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report

No, he was referencing the joint inquiry report, not the 9/11 commission report but, hey, whatever
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2016, 01:00:48 PM »
But there was another intelligence agency that knew about these terrorists. In fact they and the CIA seemed to share quite a bit. According to Lawrence Wright in his Pulitzer Prize winning book "The Looming Tower"..........

"The CIA already had the names of Mihdhar and Hazmi, however. Saeed Badeeb, Prince Turki's chief analyst in Saudi intelligence, had previously alerted his American colleagues that they were members of al_Qaeda in one of the monthly meetings in Riyadh." page 310
http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/037541486X

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......

I've tried to get debunkers to debunk this stuff, but I don't see that happening...

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A short list of who disagrees with you...

FBI USS Cole Lead Investigator Ali Soufan
FBI ALEC station officer Mark Rossini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzkd0C2t2s8

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11100134&postcount=248

Both Soufan and Rossini joined Lawrence Wright for this just released Doc exposing the CIA role


Released on 2/16/2016
THE AGENT
In a short documentary directed by Alex Gibney, Lawrence Wright and others discuss what the C.I.A. knew about the 9/11 hijackers—before 9/11.


http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2016, 05:28:37 PM »
No, he was referencing the joint inquiry report, not the 9/11 commission report but, hey, whatever

Actually lots of people tend to confuse the 9-11 Commission report with the Joint Inquiry report that contains the 28 pages.

Even people chairing the 9-11 Commission ........

Lee Hamilton and Tom Kean were the two co-chairman.....

1/7/15
In July, the two co-chairman of a separate inquiry, commonly known as the 9/11 Commission, likewise urged the White House to declassify the 28 pages.
 



“I’m embarrassed that they’re not declassified,“ former Rep. Lee Hamilton (D-Ind) said at a press conference with his co-chair Tom Kean, the former Republican governor of New Jersey. “I assumed all along that our records would be public—all of them, everything. And when I learned that a number of documents were classified or were even redacted, I was surprised and disappointed. I am embarrassed to be associated with a work product that is secret.”
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

He's surprised, disappointed, and embarrassed!

Yea, right.......

The other co-chairman Tom Kean:

Referring to widely reported connections between Saudis and two future hijackers in Southern California, Kean added, “We did research on that particular episode in San Diego with Saudi Arabia and believe if you read the 9/11 report you'll find you want to find about that particular section. There is no reason to classify it anymore.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Their live-streamed press conference at the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, D.C. received considerable attention.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

It was a show.

But Hamilton told Newsweek that he did not favor declassification of the 28 pages from the congressional investigation, just his own 9/11 Commission report. “I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said in a telephone interview.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Well, everyone else that's read them, except for Zelikow seem to want them released. What did he think about the pages when he read them?

He added that he had "never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

huh?

“I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said

Why not?

"never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….

What? Never read it? Why not? WTF?

No one ever came to me and said you ought to read these pages.” (He later amended that to say, “I can’t say I’ve never read them; I have no recollection of having read them.”)
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Huh? WTF?? Wasn't he interested? How is this not beyond incompetence? Would he be interested in knowing what he was supposed to be finding answers to? Investigating this further? Am I suppose to assume he didn't even read the Joint Inquiry at all? If he was paid from taxpayer money, he's guilty of fraud.

Does he have any interest at all in them? I hear it's quite interesting. No?...

He evinced no interest in reading them now.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

So the co chairman of the 9-11 Commission - even now after all these years, still can't be convinced that looking at the 28 pages is worth putting your pants on for? No interest in ever seeing them at all huh?
 
“I haven't asked. I don’t think I would,” he said.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170



I don’t know what’s in it….
“I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said


Take a nap. I bet you sleep real good to.

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks
http://www.9-11commission.gov/

As chairman of the House Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran (1987), Hamilton chose not to investigate President Ronald Reagan or President George H. W. Bush

Hamilton was later chair of the House October Surprise Task Force

Congress announced the formation of the Iraq Study Group, organized by the United States Institute of Peace, of which Hamilton is the Democratic co-chairman

On February 25, 2011 Mr. Hamilton wrote a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to commute Jonathan Pollard's sentence to time served.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_H._Hamilton

On July 28, 2015 the U.S. Parole Commission announced that Pollard would be released on November 20, 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Parole

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Classified 28 pages segment on 60 minutes
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2016, 01:58:23 PM »
60 minutes will have segment on 28 pages

Top secret "28 pages" may hold clues about Saudi support for 9/11 hijackers

Graham speaks to Steve Kroft for 60 Minutes report to be broadcast Sunday, April 10 at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

In addition to Graham and Goss, Kroft also speaks to former 9/11 Commission members U.S. Sen. Bob Kerrey and former Navy Secretary John Lehman; lawyers for family members of attack victims suing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; and to Tim Roemer, former Democratic U.S. Representative from Indiana who was the only person to serve on both Congress' Joint Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission. All of the former U.S. officials have read the redacted pages.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-secret-28-pages-may-hold-clues-about-saudi-support-for-911-hijackers/

They should have Judge Daniels on the show to explain how it was Iran that did
9-11, since he found them guilty and ordered them to pay 10.5 billion dollars, he saw no evidence for Saudi Arabia being guilty. LOL! That's the world I'm living in. But he's probably to busy having his wife fight off girlfriends he no longer wants to bang.....

Iran ordered to pay $10.5 billion for 9/11 by US judge
Published time: 10 Mar 2016

A US judge ordered Iran to pay over $10 billion in damages to families of victims who died on September 11, 2001 – even though there is no evidence of Tehran’s direct connection to the attack. The same judge earlier cleared Saudi Arabia from culpability.
The default judgement was issued by US District Judge George Daniels in New York on Wednesday

https://www.rt.com/usa/335174-iran-damages-september-911-victims/

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2016, 11:02:09 AM »
So is this the light at the end of the tunnel?


http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/04/18/paul-sperry-release-28-pages-can-end-suicidal-phony-alliance-saudi-arabia/
Paul Sperry: Release the 28 Pages So We Can ‘End This Suicidal Phony Alliance with Saudi Arabia’

Investigative journalist and Hoover Institution media fellow Paul Sperry appeared on Breitbart News Daily with host Stephen K. Bannon on Monday morning to talk about the potential release of the “28 Pages” of long-classified documents that may demonstrate Saudi complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

Sperry, author of Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington, published an article in the New York Post this weekend about “how the U.S. covered up the Saudi role in 9/11.”  In that article, Sperry discusses many interviews with intelligence and law-enforcement officers who say “virtually every road” from the 9/11 attacks “led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles” — but investigators were constantly told to back off from pursuing those leads.

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He thought the Saudis probably shared that expectation, given their surprisingly blunt threats to wage economic warfare against the United States if the documents are declassified. 

“It’s an empty threat, but it shows just how worried they are, that this information is going to get out there, and they’re going to be held liable,” he said, adding that he’s been told “there’s enough information in those 28 pages to bring indictments against Saudi officials.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill


WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.



The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2016, 05:12:45 PM »
An interesting piece:

Report: 15 of the 19 “hijackers” on 9/11 were CIA agents, never on the plane

(INTELLIHUB) — According to a newly released report, 15 of the 19 Saudi Arabian “hijackers” were actually CIA agents who were, at the time, covertly working with rogue factions of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex to carry out a sinister multifaceted, multi-vectored, plot to loot billions if not trillions of taxpayer dollars from the Corporation of the United States, later funneling the loot into private corporations through defense appropriated funding and numerous no-bid contracts related to the roll-out of the PATRIOT Act....

https://www.intellihub.com/report-15-19-hijackers-911-cia-agents/

Don't think I've seen this type of info before.  Anyone know if it's valid?  From day one I asked myself who benefited from 9/11, and it sure wasn't the Muslim countries.  If the above is true, then it may be that the "28 pages" are being used to set the Saudis up for U.S. military intervention.  Much like the WMDs were used to justify thumping Iraq.

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2016, 09:16:36 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/04/18/paul-sperry-release-28-pages-can-end-suicidal-phony-alliance-saudi-arabia/
Paul Sperry: Release the 28 Pages So We Can ‘End This Suicidal Phony Alliance with Saudi Arabia’

In that article, Sperry discusses many interviews with intelligence and law-enforcement officers who say “virtually every road” from the 9/11 attacks “led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles” — but investigators were constantly told to back off from pursuing those leads.

“It’s an empty threat, but it shows just how worried they are, that this information is going to get out there, and they’re going to be held liable,” he said, adding that he’s been told “there’s enough information in those 28 pages to bring indictments against Saudi officials.”

Paul Sperry has done some of the best articles on the Saudi cover up. Trust me - Sperry knows a lot - he's on board -and knows what treason is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill

WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

Speaking of Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister

According to this FBI Document Osama Basnan:

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

and:

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to ______________________).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

This is the same document with different redaction's telling us more.....

4. Associations: Closely associated with ________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

So put together we can eliminate some redactions....

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

The "(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar)." whose name is being redacted is most likely Adel Al-Jubeir.

"In 1987, Al-Jubeir was appointed into the Saudi Diplomatic Service and posted to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, DC, where he served as Special Assistant to then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_al-Jubeir

Al-Jubeir even admits that Prince Bandar gave money to Basnan, an "ardent UBL supporter" .......

"Saudi officials say Bandar and al-Faisal transferred tens of thousands of dollars to a Saudi named Osama Basnan and his Jordanian wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat.

Al-Jubeir said Bandar gave charitable donations to Basnan to help cover his wife's medical bills starting in 1998 and that al-Faisal separately gave regular monthly payments to Dweikat, who used her maiden name, which would not call attention to her marriage to Basnan."

http://amarillo.com/stories/2003/08/02/usn_reportlinks.shtml

He doesn't want the work of the FBI PENTTBOM investigators and the Joint Inquiry released either of course so he can say things like.......

"We have consistently maintained that neither al-Bayoumi nor Basnan were agents of the Saudi government, and our investigation as well as those of the US government and the British have found no involvement by them with Sept. 11," said Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Saudi Arabia's crown prince.

"As it turns out, this whole controversy was much ado about nothing. Another myth has been dispelled."
-Adel al-Jubeir
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/03/25/fbi_concludes_pair_werent_saudi_agents/

neither al-Bayoumi nor Basnan were agents of the Saudi government, and our investigation as well as those of the US government and the British have found no involvement by them with Sept. 11," said Adel al-Jubeir

Yea, ignore this...

The title of the Amazing FBI report is called........

"Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140723212512/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

Although heavily redacted they are describing Agents Basnan and Bayoumi and their connections to Bandar.

So Osama Basnan, an "ardent UBL supporter", is "Closely associated with" Adel al-Jubeir former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar

; has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter;
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

I'd be nervous if I were him to. Like his terrorist turd friends King George Bush Al Saud, and Prince Bandar he likes making threats.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2016, 09:30:41 PM »
An interesting piece:
Not Really

Report: 15 of the 19 “hijackers” on 9/11 were CIA agents, never on the plane
What report? I'd like to read this report if it's been released.

(INTELLIHUB) — According to a newly released report

So this report has been released? Good! Where is it? Who released it? What's the title of it? Where can I read it?

Don't think I've seen this type of info before. Anyone know if it's valid?

No. It's not valid.
It's just as valid as the report that contains this information. This report doesn't exist. There is not a "newly released report". It's just Kevin Barrett spreading disinformation like he's done for years, and horrible reporting.
Don't believe me? Then show me the report. Tell me ANYTHING about this report? There is no report. It's Barrett, blabbering his conspiracy theories, and let me repeat.......based on a report that was newly released, that no one has seen, because it doesn't exist. It's BS.

From day one I asked myself who benefited from 9/11, and it sure wasn't the Muslim countries.

It depends on what Muslim countries you refferring to.
Congressional Record: October 28, 2003 (Senate)
Page S13349-S13372

There is a further irony that some of those countries, which are disclosed in the 28 censored pages as having been complicitous with the  terrorists, are among the list of those creditors of Iraq that are going to get this indirect economic benefit.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html

That would be a Muslim Country called Saudi Arabia

If the above is true, then it may be that the "28 pages" are being used to set the Saudis up for U.S. military intervention.  Much like the WMDs were used to justify thumping Iraq.

But the above isn't true. However, in 9-11 truther conspiracy land.....you know...the land where Islamic terrorists don't exist, and all evil emanates from Zionist Jews, and their old Goyim white American conspiracy partners who devise ways of framing nice innocent Muslims? In this land of make believe, that Barrett promotes, makes the nice innocent Muslims of Saudi Arabia with all their Oil the next target, in this.... years in the making, well planned out, convoluted incredibly risky, and somewhat stupid conspiracy, this conspiracy theories' end game is to go to war against Saudi Arabia, over a decade later. The conspiracy plan all along!! Because(the theory goes) no one will ever realize that Saudi Arabia was protected from day one. No one would ever realize that this is the worst case of treason in U.S. History. Instead, the sheeple, will realize that these darn pages that were kept from them expose Saudi Arabia, and now finally......they can go to war against the REAL evil doers. The 9-11 End Game the Zionists and their white American slaves devised years ago. All Muslims are innocent and not involved. Or....so the Conspiracy Theory goes.

If 9-11 truthers do think the American public, is actually so f&%$ing stupid they will never realize that their Government deliberately kept them from knowing the truth of 9-11. That Al Qaeda was created and financed by Saudi Arabia, with the full blessing and support of the highest levels of the U.S. Government and then were used to attack the U.S. With the full support and blessing(not to mention assistance of elements) of the U.S. Government That the U.S. Government called Saudi Arabia "friends" and protected them while attacking and marginalizing Saudi Arabia's enemies, while at the same time covering up the role of Saudi Arabia, only to attack them as well when the American people realize what the cover up was. I'd think that 9-11 truthers could be more effective exposing the real proven cover ups and conspiracies, rather than these make believe "theories". If the American people are that stupid, I would think that for 9-11 truthers it would make it that much more important to expose that....

This is the worst case of Treason and Mass Murder in U.S. History.

The disgusting Government of Saudi Arabia, is not my friend, and neither are the U.S. traitors that assisted in the murder and cover up of the 9-11 attacks that kick-started the world wide Islamic terrorism and the Sunni/Shiite religious civil war we have to deal with today. The 28 pages are not just a threat to high levels of the Saudi and American Government. They are also a threat to those promoting false conspiracy theories that they were duped into believing, and wont let go of.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2016, 02:54:49 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3551863/Rudy-Giuliani-suggests-Saudi-Arabia-involved-9-11-attacks-reveals-offered-10MILLION-prince-Obama-cozies-King-Salman-trip-Middle-East.html

Former Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani (inset) has revealed that he was offered a $10million check from a Saudi Arabian prince in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Giuliani, who was mayor of the city when two hijacked planes were flown into the World Trade Center towers, said he tore up the check and said the high ranking official could 'burn it in hell'. In an impassioned plea this morning,

Giuliani urged Obama to release 28 pages of a report on the attacks that have been kept secret and are believed to show Saudi involvement in the atrocity. The row over the secret papers dragged on as Obama met with King Salman (pictured together, left and right) in Saudi Arabia, but failed to bring up the alleged connections to the September 11 attacks yet again.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2016, 03:03:04 PM »
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/debunking-the-28-pages-of-the-911-report.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6ec6d65a43-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-6ec6d65a43-387901389

  James Corbett video at the link....

Debunking The 28 Pages Of The 9/11 Report



Today James joins Dan Dicks on PFT Live to discuss the 28 pages and the move to blame Saudi Arabia for 9/11. What are the 28 pages really about? Is this really a step forward for 9/11 truth or a step back? Are the Saudis threatening to crash the dollar if they’re hung out to dry? Join James and Dan for the lowdown on the latest 9/11 propaganda.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2016, 01:25:42 AM »

  James Corbett video at the link....

Debunking The 28 Pages Of The 9/11 Report


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nonsense

The whole 9/11 truth: Release the 28 classified pages, whatever they may say about Saudi Arabia
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, April 26, 2016


Americans have waited far too long for the fullest possible historical accounting of the events that led up to 9/11 — including all support given to the hijackers by anyone in Saudi Arabia.

But the Bush administration classified 28 pages of the document, focusing on potential Saudi involvement in facilitating the hijackers, 15 of 19 of whom were Saudis.

Conspiracy theories abound about why, for instance, three planeloads of Saudi nationals were evacuated from the U.S. in the days after the 9/11 despite a total flight ban.

Truth was sacrificed for the sake of the supposedly higher good of diplomatic relations with a long-time ally and oil producer. Struggle to justify secrecy, as you might try to do in retrospect, today there are no grounds for squelching facts for diplo-convenience.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/9-11-truth-article-1.2614086

"Truth was sacrificed for the sake of the supposedly higher good of diplomatic relations with a long-time ally and oil producer."

"the supposedly higher good" = Conspiracy Theory created to run away from the Treason and Mass Murder of reality.

Running away from the truth as it finally crawls into their consciousness. Stop being scared little girls and help everyone figure out how to get through this without a series of catastrophes happening.
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How they will try and Spin "The 28 pages"
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2016, 09:17:17 PM »
How They Will Spin "The 28 Pages"

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will likely soon release at least part of a 28-page secret chapter from a congressional inquiry into 9/11 that may shed light on possible Saudi connections to the attackers.
http://nypost.com/2016/04/24/obama-may-finally-reveal-secret-saudi-connection-to-911/

Most likely, the part released will be about those dastardly Saudi's. The part not released will be their partners in crime which is why they've never been concerned about retaliation from the U.S. It was America's idea. They were warned. They knew what was coming. It wasn't a surprise.

Prior Knowledge of 9/11
by Robert Schopmeyer

http://www.amazon.com/Prior-Knowledge-11-Robert-Schopmeyer-ebook/dp/B0041VYL9K


Disconnecting the Dots: How 9/11 Was Allowed to Happen 
by Kevin Fenton

http://www.amazon.com/Disconnecting-Dots-How-Allowed-Happen/dp/0984185852/ref=sr_1_1_twi_pap_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461804393&sr=1-1&keywords=disconnecting+the+dots

The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden
by Anthony Summers, Robbyn Swan

http://www.amazon.com/Eleventh-Day-Story-Osama-Laden/dp/140006659X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461804437&sr=1-1&keywords=the+eleventh+day

INTELLIGENCE MATTERS: The CIA, the FBI, Saudi Arabia, and the Failure of America's War on Terror
by Senator Bob Graham
http://www.amazon.com/Bob-Graham/e/B001J3U318/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

Release all 28 pages you cowards!

The Saudi's are already on record giving their side.....

U.S. and Saudi officials, in rare interviews discussing joint intelligence operations, have told The Associated Press that Saudi Arabia has secretly provided the United States with several diplomatic and intelligence favors in the war on terrorism.

The Saudis counter they initiated the first joint terrorism task force with U.S. intelligence as early as 1997 and say they were, at times, bewildered to receive duplicative requests from multiple U.S. agencies, all unaware that another federal agency already had the information.

Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief said in an AP interview his government determined in late 1999 or early 2000 that eventual Sept. 11 hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were Al Qaeda terrorists being sought in two terror plots.

Prince Turki al Faisal alleges his intelligence agency told the CIA in late 1999 and early 2000 that the kingdom had placed both men on its own terror watch list after learning from Al Qaeda prisoners and intelligence intercepts that al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi might be connected to 1998 Al Qaeda attacks on U.S. embassies in Africa and a 1997 effort to smuggle weapons.

"What we told them was these people were on our watch list from previous activities of Al Qaeda, in both the embassy bombings and attempts to smuggle arms into the kingdom in 1997," Turki said.

CIA officials deny receiving such information until after the suicide hijackings occurred.

"There is not a shred of evidence that Saudi intelligence provided CIA any information about al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi prior to Sept. 11 as they have described," spokesman Bill Harlow said. "There have been exhaustive examinations of our records, not only by us, but by congressional inquiries and no such records have surfaced.

U.S. and Saudi officials confirm the Saudis created a terror task force as early as 1997 to exchange information with the United States. They usually met once a month either in Riyadh or Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

The part not released will most likely be the "embarrassing mistakes of the CIA" and the President "who knew nothing about nothing" because his friends(Bandar) and employees(Tenet) never told him "anything about anything."

Tenet Concedes CIA Made Mistakes
April 15, 2004


CIA Director George J. Tenet acknowledged yesterday that he did not brief President Bush, FBI leaders or Cabinet members after he was informed in late August 2001 of the arrest of Zacarias Moussaoui, who would later be charged as a conspirator in the terror attacks. The briefing for Tenet was titled "Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly."

"We made mistakes," Tenet told the panel yesterday, referring to the general failure to detect the terror plot that left 3,000 people dead.

In one of its more stinging case studies, the staff report noted that Tenet learned on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001, about the arrest in Minnesota a week earlier of Moussaoui, a suspected jihadist who was attempting to learn how to fly jetliners.

Tenet said he did not tell President Bush, who was vacationing in Texas, or FBI management about the development.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13122-2004Apr14.html

See? The President was all the way down in Texas. How would anyone be able to tell the President anything when he's not in the same room? Call? Email? Well......what about security? To risky probably.

"I never saw the President in August. He's down in Texas" - CIA Director George Tenet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

If the CIA director had something top secret to tell the President, he would have to fly to Texas and meet President Bush face to face. Oh......BTW....that is exactly what happened. You are supposed to pretend the following doesn't exist. The white house's own website proves he did just that.........

Office of the Press Secretary
August 25, 2001
Remarks by the President
Crawford, Texas


Q    When you have those business meetings, like the Joint Chiefs briefing, do you like to keep it separate from the living quarters on the ranch?

THE PRESIDENT:  The CIA briefings, I have on our porch, the end of our porch looking out over the lake.  When Tenet came up, that's where we visited, out there.

You know, everybody wants to see the ranch, which I'm proud to show it off.  So George Tenet and I -- yesterday, we piled in the new nominees for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Vice Chairman and their wives and went right up the canyon.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010913060300/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010825-2.html

ooops!

So? What you just read is irrelevant. Don't believe me? See for yourself here.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

No one dares call him or the President on this BS. How come?

So the story will go like this...

So really, turns out it's no ones fault. Sure Saudi Arabia created and ran the terrorists, but they told America all about them and what they were up to. so it's not their fault.....The President's buddy, Bandar Bush explains....

"Everyone is smarter after 9-11. Everyone missed the mark prior to 9-11. No one country can be blamed," said Prince Bandar, the longtime Saudi ambassador to Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

Sure, they knew there were terrorists in America. Our buddy Bandar tried to tell us.....

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision."

"If U.S. security authorities had engaged their Saudi counterparts in a serious and credible manner, in my opinion, we would have avoided what happened," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/

Did he tell the 9-11 Commission this in his interview with them?

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610777

I'm sure Lee Hamilton is fighting like hell to get that declassified. Right?

“I assumed, incorrectly, that our records would be public,” Hamilton said. “All of them, everything. I want those documents declassified. I’m embarrassed to be associated with a work product that is secret.” - Lee Hamilton
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/09/911-comm-chair-embarrassed-that-u-s-still-keeps-most-records-secret/

Go gettem' tiger! You are a joke.

Saudi Arabia isn't going to arrest anyone or do anything (other than help the terrorists)in America. It's not their jurisdiction.

As to the question......Why would Saudi Arabia want to attack America?
Ans: They wouldn't. They told America what was happening, that was a decision America made. That was on them, according to the Saudis.

It seems that the Saudi's shared information, like they claimed. And that information was not shared by the CIA, to the FBI investigators trying to stop Al Qaeda from killing more people.

See -

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

To think the CIA kept this information from the President as well, seems a bit far-fetched. The President seems to think his CIA did just fine.

Pulitzer Prize winning book:

"The CIA already had the names of Mihdhar and Hazmi, however. Saeed Badeeb, Prince Turki's chief analyst in Saudi intelligence, had previously alerted his American colleagues that they were members of al_Qaeda in one of the monthly meetings in Riyadh." page 310
http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/037541486X

And they do agree on this...

U.S. and Saudi officials confirm the Saudis created a terror task force as early as 1997 to exchange information with the United States. They usually met once a month either in Riyadh or Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

So the story will be.......

Saudis: We tried to warn them
CIA/President : Mistakes were made - No one's perfect.

Mistakes(giant ones)along with perjury gets you millions of dollars, a Presidential Medal of Freedom Award, and if you're The President - a second term.

I'm not going along with it. It's way past time for the liars, traitors, and murderers to face justice.   

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2016, 06:25:13 PM »
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568526/CIA-director-says-28-classified-pages-9-11-report-contains-uncorroborated-vetted-inaccurate-information-Saudi-Arabia-s-role-terror-attack.html#ixzz47RfcpTCd
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Oh yeah this JackA_ss has been right on top of it ...:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan
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In 1996 he was CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers bombing killed 19 U.S. servicemen.[5]

In 1999 he was appointed chief of staff to George Tenet, then-Director of the CIA.[3][5]
Brennan became deputy executive director of the CIA in March 2001.[3]

He was director of the newly created Terrorist Threat Integration Center from 2003 to 2004, an office that sifted through and compiled information for President Bush's daily top secret intelligence briefings and employed the services of analysts from a dozen U.S. agencies and entities.[18] One of the controversies in his career involves the distribution of intelligence to the Bush White House that helped lead to an "Orange Terror Alert", over Christmas 2003 ...

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing

so where was he on sept 11 ?

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2014-featured-story-archive/cia-reflects-on-the-anniversary-of-sept-11-2001.html

...

Buzzy Krongard was executive director at the time, and the two of us divided up responsibilities to ensure that we would be able to carry out our mission in the Washington Metropolitan Area and around the world. Despite the dangers, CIA officers focused on what they needed to do, and many of those with counterterrorism responsibilities, in the great tradition of CIA, stayed at their Headquarters posts as they furiously tried to uncover the clues that would pinpoint responsibility for the attacks and, most importantly, what other attacks might be heading our way.
....

And in the days, weeks, months and years that followed that devastating attack against our beautiful homeland, our nation came together as one, resolving to do what would be necessary to prevent another attack. It is my deep hope that the lessons of 9/11, and the national spirit, commitment and resilience that emerged in its aftermath, will never fade.

John O. Brennan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._B._Krongard
9/11[edit]

Krongard's name was brought up in conjunction with investigations into suspected 9/11-related insider trading because of timely Wall Street trades made through the investment bank he used to head, Alex. Brown.[6]

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2016, 09:36:54 PM »
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568526/CIA-director-says-28-classified-pages-9-11-report-contains-uncorroborated-vetted-inaccurate-information-Saudi-Arabia-s-role-terror-attack.html#ixzz47RfcpTCd
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Oh yeah this JackA_ss has been right on top of it ...:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

CIA Director John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified
May 1, 2016

I'm quite puzzled by Sen. Graham and others because what that joint inquiry did was to tee up issues that were followed up on by the 9/11 Commission, as well as the 9/11 Review Commission. So these were thoroughly investigated and reviewed,” he said. “And they came out with a very clear judgment that there was no evidence that indicated that the Saudi government as an institution, or Saudi officials individually, had provided financial support to Al Qaeda.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cia-director-recommends-feds-don-release-classified-9-11-report-article-1.2620864

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

F**k You John Brennan! I am alive and well today. I'm saying and doing this because I can. I happen to know there are dead people who enlisted in the Armed Forces after 9-11 to "fight the evil-doers who hate freedom" just like I did, because they believed their corrupt full of s**t government. They're dead, so they can't say it. 

Let's change this....

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified
 
to this.....

John Brennan says documents that could link The CIA to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

It's the same thing.

see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzkd0C2t2s8

see:

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/our-new-television-show

The Saudi Arabia "link" to 9/11 terrorists, is a "link" to your CIA.

The CIA and the Saudi's have been working together using the brainwashed religious nutjobs from the time they created their Frankenstein. This isn't new. It's old.

In the 1980s, the CIA secretly backed the mujahedin, the Islamic freedom fighters rebelling against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Arming and training the "Mooj" was one of the most successful covert actions ever mounted by the CIA.

veterans of the Mooj's holy war against the Soviets began arriving in the United States--many with passports arranged by the CIA.

Bonded by combat, full of religious zeal, the diaspora of young Arab men willing to die for Allah congregated at the Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, N.Y., a dreary inner-city building that doubled as a recruiting post for the CIA seeking to steer fresh troops to the mujahedin.

Half a world away, people who understood the ferocity of Islamic extremism could see the coming storm. In the late '80s, Pakistan's then head of state, Benazir Bhutto, told the first President George Bush, "You are creating a Frankenstein."

"Blind Sheik" who ranted against the infidels from a run-down mosque in Jersey City. The Blind Sheik's shady past should have been of great interest to the Feds--he had been linked to the plot to assassinate Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in 1981. But the sheik had slipped into the United States with the protection of the CIA, which saw the revered cleric as a valuable recruiting agent for the Mooj.
http://www.newsweek.com/war-terror-road-september-11-151771


Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf


4. Associations: Closely associated with ________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf


In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. page 228/858

After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter. page 229/858
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

Those belong to us. We paid for them. Not just with money but lives. Your CIA is guilty. Just how deep do you want to involve yourself in this treason?

..what that joint inquiry did was to tee up issues that were followed up on by the 9/11 Commission, as well as the 9/11 Review Commission. So these were thoroughly investigated and reviewed,” he said. “And they came out with a very clear judgment that there was no evidence that indicated that the Saudi government as an institution, or Saudi officials individually, had provided financial support to Al Qaeda.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cia-director-recommends-feds-don-release-classified-9-11-report-article-1.2620864

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

According to the commissions own documents he has lots to lie about......

Basnan Interview with Commission:

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

So? Well, let's see what the 9-11 Commission says in rebuttal to the joint inquiry......

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

A search of the 9-11 Commission report shows that Bassnan/Basnan is not even mentioned in the report.

F**k You John Brennan. And instead of a patronizing "thank you for your service", I'd prefer a release of the 28 pages in full and the treason trials to start.

Traitors will be dealt with.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2016, 02:15:06 PM »
Remember Obama's passport files?

Two Fired For Looking At Obama's Passport File

"TAC’s Chief Executive Officer John O. Brennan is a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign"

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2013/01/13/barack-obama-nominates-ut-alumnus-john-brennan-to-head-of-cia
Barack Obama nominates UT alumnus John Brennan to head of CIA
Published on January 13, 2013
By Joshua Fechter

President Barack Obama’s nomination of a former UT student to lead the CIA may prompt a public debate about the United States’ increased reliance on drone strikes in the War on Terror and past use of enhanced interrogation techniques, according to two UT faculty members.
 
On Jan. 7, Obama nominated John Brennan, who graduated from UT with a Master of Arts in 1980, to serve as CIA director. Brennan is chief counterterrorism adviser to the president and advised Obama on foreign policy during his 2008 presidential campaign. Prior to that, Brennan spent 25 years in the CIA and became deputy director of the CIA in 2001.
 
Obama previously nominated Brennan to head the CIA in 2009, but Brennan withdrew his name from consideration after concerns about his prior support of enhanced interrogation techniques and his possible role in allowing the use of those techniques during former President George W. Bush’s administration arose.
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http://www.zimbio.com/Sean+McCormack+-+Department+of+State/articles/6/Obama+Intelligence+Adviser+Involved+Security

The State Department has not released the names of the persons responsible for the unauthorized searches but said two were employed by Stanley Inc. and the third was an employee of The Analysis Corp. (TAC). Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, is John O. Brennan. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp.

Stanley Inc., a 3,500-person firm, is an Arlington-based information technology firm that this week won a $570 million contract to continue providing passport services to the State Department, which the company has done since 1992, according to Stanley Inc.’s Web site.

TAC is a McLean-based information firm that has helped the State Department automate the Terrorist Watchlist over the last several years, the company’s Web site said.

TAC’s Chief Executive Officer John O. Brennan is a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign.
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Following the breach, State Department managers met with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden, whose committee has oversight over the Foreign Service and the passport office. Biden will be sworn in as Obama’s vice president on Jan. 20.

The State Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) issued a 104-page report on the breach last July. Although it is stamped “Sensitive but Unclassified,” the report was heavily redacted in the version released to the public, with page after page blacked out entirely.

http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/109112.pdf

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Acting Assistant secretary for administration William H. Moser sent a six-page reply concurring with the recommendation, all but one paragraph of which was blacked out because of the sensitivity of the information it contained.

He was George Tenet's pal in the roll up for 9-11..... Deputy Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from March 2001 to March 2003.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1759

Brennan, a former chief of staff to CIA Director George Tenet, has held a number of senior analyst positions at the agency, including assignments in the Office of Near Eastern and South Asian Analysis. Brennan directed analysis at the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center during the first Gulf War and was the White House daily intelligence briefer in 1994 and 1995.

Mr. Brennan began his career as an intelligence officer in 1980 with the Central Intelligence Agency’s Directorate of Operations as a Career Trainee. After joining the Directorate of Intelligence in 1981, he served with the Department of State as a political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia from 1982 to 1984. From 1984 to 1989, he served in a variety of analytic assignments in the Office of Near Eastern and South Asian Analysis in the Directorate of Intelligence. Mr. Brennan was in charge of terrorism analysis in the DCI’s Counterterrorist Center between 1990 and 1992, including during Desert Shield and Desert Storm

He served as Chief of Station in a major Middle East capital from 1996 to 1999. Mr. Brennan served as DCI Tenet’s Chief of Staff from 1999 to 2001 and as Deputy Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from March 2001 to March 2003.

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2 +2 = ?

http://www.examiner.com/article/did-john-brennan-remove-birther-evidence-from-obama-s-passport
Did John Brennan remove birther evidence from Obama's passport? (Photos)
January 10, 2013
By: Marv Dumon


On Wednesday, the Supreme Court announced on its website that it will review arguments on Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to serve as president of the United States in a Feb. 15 conference. (See article)
http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court-to-hear-case-on-obama-s-alleged-forged-documents

There may be additional circumstantial evidence favoring birthers such as Donald Trump and Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio who contend that Barack Obama may have used altered government documents and/or fake IDs in order to run for political office (an offense that is considered a felony).

On Jan. 9, WND author Jerome R. Corsi suggested that Obama's recent nominee to head the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, may have played a role in "what many suspect was an effort to sanitize Obama’s passport records" (i.e., remove damaging evidence that the former U.S. senator from Illinois is not eligible to hold
...

On Wednesday, Mr. Corsi wrote that:

the New York Times noted that the files examined likely contained sensitive personal information, including Social Security numbers, addresses and dates of birth, as well as passport applications and other biographical information that would pertain to U.S. citizenship . . . State Department spokesman McCormack had emphasized the most egregious violation appeared to have been made against Obama.

...

Jan. 9, Corsi observed:

“Analysis Corporation was headed by Brennan, a former CIA agent who was then serving as an adviser on intelligence and foreign policy to Sen. Obama’s presidential campaign. After Obama’s inauguration, Brennan joined the White House as assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for homeland security and counter-terrorism.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2016, 11:51:29 PM »
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'

Paul Sperry has done some of the best articles on the Saudi cover up. Trust me - Sperry knows a lot - he's on board -and knows what treason is.

Sperry responds

The establishment is lying about the 9/11 report
By Paul Sperry            May 2, 2016
I’m told the very first page of the redacted chapter quotes an Aug. 2, 2002, CIA memorandum that found “incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government.” Brennan was deputy CIA director at the time.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/02/the-establishment-is-lying-about-the-911-report/
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2016, 11:50:44 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/politics/senate-passes-bill-that-would-expose-saudi-arabia-to-legal-jeopardy-over-9-11.html?_r=0
Senate Passes Bill Exposing Saudi Arabia to 9/11 Legal Claims
By MARK MAZZETTIv
MAY 17, 2016
WASHINGTON — A bill that would let the families of those killed in the Sept. 11 attacks sue Saudi Arabia for any role in the terrorist plot passed the Senate unanimously on Tuesday, bringing Congress closer to a showdown with the White House, which has threatened to veto the legislation.

The Senate’s passage of the bill, which will now be taken up in the House, is another sign of escalating tensions in a relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia that once received little scrutiny from lawmakers.

Administration officials have lobbied against the bill, a view that the White House spokesman Josh Earnest reiterated after the vote. And the Saudi government has warned that if the legislation passes, it might begin selling off up to $750 billion in Treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they face a danger of being frozen by American courts. Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the warning to lawmakers and the administration while in Washington in March.

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Questions about the role Saudi officials might have played in the Sept. 11 plot have lingered for more than a decade, and families of the victims have used various lawsuits to try to hold members of the Saudi royal family and charities liable for what they allege is financial support of terrorism.

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Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, a Democrat and a sponsor of the bill
, said the legislation would help the families of the victims seek justice.
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“If the Saudis did not participate in this terrorism, they have nothing to fear about going to court,” he said. “If they did, they should be held accountable.”

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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/saudi-arabia-911-bill-congress/478689/

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But wait, what role did Saudi Arabia play in the attacks? The 9/11 Commission report said this: “We have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization.” Just like the proposed change to sovereign foreign immunity, it’s a narrowly tailored sentence.


“You can’t provide the money for terrorists and then say, “I don’t have anything to do with what they're doing,’” Bob Kerrey, the former senator and a member of the 9/11 Commission
, told 60 Minutes recently. “In general, the 9/11 Commission did not get every single detail of the conspiracy. We didn’t. We didn’t have the time, we didn’t have the resources. We certainly didn’t pursue the entire line of inquiry in regard to Saudi Arabia.”

Even then, there’s some information about Saudi involvement that has been gathered but is not yet public. A 2002 joint congressional investigation into intelligence failures ahead of 9/11 produced 28 pages that remain classified, and which are said to shed light on potential Saudi involvement in the attacks—perhaps by lower-level Saudi officials, or by elements of the government but not the government “as an institution.” Former Senator Bob Graham, a Florida Democrat who chaired the Senate side of the committee, has been pushing for years for the 28 pages to be released. Graham (no relation to this reporter) has fought a long and somewhat lonely battle, in part because he believes it could affect the victims’ families’ quest for restitution.

“No. 1, I think the American people deserve to know the truth of what has happened in their name,” he said last year. “No. 2 is justice for these family members who have suffered such loss and thus far have been frustrated largely by the U.S. government in their efforts to get some compensation.”

The pages were classified at the request of the FBI when produced
. Graham and then-Representative Porter Goss, who was the House chair of the committee (and later directed the CIA) suggest there’s been no good reason given for keeping the document secret. Since the documents are classified, Graham won’t say what’s in them, but he has promised “a real smoking gun.” ...
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #62 on: July 06, 2016, 11:38:39 PM »
The 28 pages are not just about the Saudi's as this thread shows (this thread exposed the role of Fahad Al-Thumairy years before 60 minutes finally got around to it earlier this year)

But there was another intelligence agency that knew about these terrorists. In fact they and the CIA seemed to share quite a bit.......

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......What is in the 28 pages of the joint inquiry that were blacked out?

The MSM has tried to ignore this - we will not allow it to be ignored-and the Government agencies and people involved will not be allowed to spin it either....

Thumairy finally named:

April 11, 2016 1:59 PM
’60 MINUTES’: Lawmakers Say Redacted Pages Of 9/11 Report Show Saudi Official Met Hijackers In LA

A CBS News “60 Minutes” report quoted officials familiar with the 2003 report as saying 28 pages of redacted information raises questions over whether Saudi officials were involved in assisting Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar upon their arrival in Los Angeles in Jan. 2000.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/60-minutes-lawmakers-say-redacted-pages-of-911-report-shows-saudi-official-met-hijackers-in-la/

Second post in this thread in 2013:

They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

MSM in 2016:

April 11, 2016 1:59 PM
According to “60 Minutes”, Bayoumi visited Thumairy at a Saudi consulate office where he worked on the morning of Feb. 1, 2000. The two then had lunch “at a Middle Eastern restaurant on Venice Boulevard”, a meeting which Bayoumi later claimed was a “coincidence”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/60-minutes-lawmakers-say-redacted-pages-of-911-report-shows-saudi-official-met-hijackers-in-la/

Second post in this thread in 2013:
The exact location of the Mediterranean Cafe is 10863 Venice Boulevard and the meeting took place on 02/01/2000 as this FBI report shows.....
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

Treason will be exposed and History will condemn the traitors and Murderers, even if the people don't, due to the disgusting cover-up and cowardly MSM.

July 6, 2016
28 Pages on 9/11 May Reveal “Terrible, Terrible Errors” by U.S. Intelligence Community
https://28pages.org/2016/07/06/rep-lynch-28-pages-on-911-may-reveal-terrible-terrible-errors-by-u-s-intelligence-community/

Reps Jones, Lynch, and Massie Host Press Conference on Push to Declassify the 28 pages - 7.6.16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heUFHXg-kus

Highlights From Press Conf. Regarding JASTA And 28 Redacted Pages - 7/6/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khbqv_TW5Jg

Perjury is NOT a "Terrible Error"!

George Tenet Lies to the 9/11 Commission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

CIA head George Tenet lies to the 9/11 Joint Inquiry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8j43j_dWVU


Mass murder and substituting Iraq for Saudi Arabia in a lie that cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lives, is not a "Terrible Error"....

"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2016, 07:36:44 PM »
"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html

28 pages on alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released as soon as Friday
Thu July 14, 2016

Rep. Adam Schiff, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the report will be posted on line soon.
"The House Intelligence Committee will get the redacted report today or tomorrow," the California Democrat said. "The Senate and House intel committees should then give the formal go ahead to release the report since they originally produced it."

Sources told CNN that intelligence agencies, law enforcement and the State Department have all reviewed and approved the release of the pages with "minimal redactions."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/28-pages-on-alleged-saudi-arabia-ties-to-sept-11-attacks-to-be-released/index.html?sr=twtsr0714saudiarabia
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28 pages released!
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2016, 05:41:21 PM »
28 pages released! (still some redactions)

This is what Treason Looks like! This information was withheld from the American people to have a War with Iraq and pretend The Saudi Government are allies against the "Islamic Terrorists". When they are the source.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

Most of this information has already been exposed in this thread, although Bush's buddy Prince Bandar is exposed even more.


"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html
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Re: 28 pages released!
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2016, 05:49:54 PM »
28 pages released! (still some redactions)

This is what Treason Looks like! This information was withheld from the American people to have a War with Iraq and pretend The Saudi Government are allies against the "Islamic Terrorists".When they are the source.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

Most of this information has already been exposed in this thread, although Bush's buddy Price Bandar is exposed even more.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2016, 07:18:29 PM »
finally ... but still there are other secret documents and the 28 pages are still redacted to protect the guilty ...

Bush /Bandar Paki Intel / Mossad / MI6 / DEA ...

This is why they want to control trump if/when he gets in
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Re: 28 pages released!
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2016, 11:40:50 PM »
Yes, the Saudi government helped the 9/11 terrorists
By Paul Sperry July 15, 2016 | 8:02pm

The explosive information was locked up in a top-secret, highly secured room in the basement of the US Capitol for the past 15 years, ostensibly to protect the Kingdom from embarrassment. (The Post helped get the declassification ball rolling with the December 2013 piece, “Inside the Saudi 9/11 coverup.”)

That means for 15 years, 9/11 victims and their families have been denied by their own government critical evidence they’ve sought to sue the Saudi government for responsibility in the death of their loved ones.

It also means Washington has misled the American people about foreign sponsorship of 9/11. For 15 years, we’ve been told that al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors. We were led to believe that 15 Saudi nationals who barely spoke English received no help while in America; that they operated in isolation, like visitors from outer space.

It was all a monstrous lie.

According to a CIA memo, cited by the now-uncensored 28-page section of the 9/11 report, “Bassnan reportedly received funding and possibly a fake passport from Saudi government officials.”

More alarming, “he and his wife have received financial support from the Saudi ambassador to the United States and his wife.” That would be Prince Bandar, who was promoted to Saudi intelligence minister after 9/11.

The same report says Bassnan, described as a “supporter of Osama bin Laden,” also got “a significant amount of cash” from another “member of the Saudi Royal Family.”

FBI documents and a CIA memo further indicate that the hijackers had contact with Shayk Fahad al-Thumairy, then a Saudi consular official in Los Angeles. Records show the accredited Saudi diplomat had dozens of phone conversations and at least one meeting with Bayoumi in advance of the hijackers’ arrival.

But wait, the Saudi-9/11 conspiracy gets even worse.

Read full article:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/15/yes-the-saudi-government-helped-the-911-terrorists/

It also means Washington has misled the American people about foreign sponsorship of 9/11. For 15 years, we’ve been told that al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.

The creators, financiers, and operational sponsors of Al Qaeda --
CIA* and Saudi Intelligence = No State Sponsors

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_Center_for_Intelligence
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2016, 07:36:03 AM »
"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html

There is a further irony that some of those countries, which are disclosed in the 28 censored pages as having been complicitous with the terrorists, are among the list of those creditors of Iraq that are going to get this indirect economic benefit.
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html

What I claimed were in the 28 pages:
They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

28 pages just released(some redactions) naming Fahad al-Thumairy Agents Basnan and Bayoumi and Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

9-11 Commission did NOT debunk 28 pages nor clear these Saudis, to say it did is a lie....

Paul Sperry: “Unger and Moore have their own agendas. mine aligns with the FBI WFO case agents and FCPD* detectives who say they’ll never forgive the Bush admin for throttling their investigation of leads back to Saudi Embassy and Bandar himself in McLean. they view the former POTUS as a traitor.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/15/murdochs-nypost-today-backs-michael-moore-bush-saudi-claims-from-fahrenheit-911

"The rental application states that Hazmi and Mihdhar resided in Bayoumi's apartment from January 15 to Feb 2, 2000 but Bayoumi denies it, and we have found no reason to dispute his denial. According to Bayoumi, he was in such a hurry to complete the rental transactions that he signed the application form without reading it."
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Try that sometime and see if you get away with it. Lie on an application, and if you get caught just say you didn't bother reading what you wrote. Bayoumi is the one that filled out their application.

Agent Bayoumi then gets a giant "raise" when he enrolls them into flight school. Flight schools aren't cheap you know...

FBI report:

"Al-Hazmi and Khalid Al-Mihdhar attended introductory flight lessons in April/May of 2000 in California but after experiencing language difficulties, they stopped attending."
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02%28feb%29

At that same time Bayoumi was given a raise of over $3000 a month.....

"In April 2000, Bayoumi received a promotion and his status was also adjusted from "single" to "married" (despite the fact that he was already married)"
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Agent Basnan was also living next door to the hijackers and assisting them, he is being paid by Prince Bandar and funneling the money to the hijackers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNXKpihAGM

FBI Agent who investigated Basnan;

________did some initial research and determined that the individual ________was talking about was Osama Basnan. ___________{9/11 classified information}________-also found an FBI document describing extremist jihadi materials that were found in a car registered to Basnan in the Virginia area. _______decided to do some initial investigation regarding Basnan.

For instance, he played down his relationship with Omar Al-Bayoumi, stating that he did not know him very well.......According to _________Bayoumi and Basnan are the closest of friends. ________moreover, has corroborated this account. Furthermore, _____stated, phone records reveal roughly 700 calls between various phones subscribed to by Bayoumi and Basnan over a one year period(even discounting some of the calls in view of the friendship between their wives, the calls between their cell phones are most likely between the two men).

__________remarked that he was recently reviewing an interview report from 10/30/01 of George Harb, his landlord, and noticed that Harb received a page on 2/15/00 from a telephone number that turns out to be that of Omar al-Bayoumi's cell phone. However, in his interview, Harb stated that when he returned the page, he spoke with Nawaf al-Hazmi. ________found this significant because it suggests either Bayoumi was helping the hijackers make housing arrangements other than Parkwood or that the hijackers were at least using Bayoumi's cell phone during this period.

________stated that he was 98% sure that the hijackers were likely using Bayoumi's cell phone during the first couple of months of 2000 and therefor the calls from that phone should be analyzed carefully........_______noted that there are numerous calls to numbers that have never been investigated, and he believed this should be an issue of grave concern. Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"[/i]
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

"Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"

Well this FBI report says they were contacting Saudi Officials in Washington DC and Los Angeles California. If they weren't then Bayoumi was.

"Omar Al Bayoumi
 Employed by Dallah al Baraka

A review of the following calls indicate a total 141 calls made by telephone numbers associated with _________to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Washington D.C. Area.

In connection with calls made to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Los Angeles, California area, there were 34 calls made."

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-04-15-FBI-LHM-omar-al-bayoumi2.pdf

Back to the FBI Agent investigating Basnan....

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting, ________stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's_________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000.

______also stated that another interesting lead concerned an individual named ______._______had connections with Basnan and other relevant subjects and had attended flight training. He lived in San Diego at the same time as the 9/11 hijackers, and he also attended the ICSD. In an interview dated 11/9/01, a flight instructor recounted how on May 23 of that year _______had been asking a lot of suspicious questions about radar coverage during a tour of a local aviation facility."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

FBI Investigation reports reveal Osama Basnan as working for Saudi Intelligence:

"The possibility of ____________being affiliated with the Saudi Arabian Government or the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service is supported by ________________Listing his employment in 1992 as the___________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________.
 On October 17, 1992 ___________hosted a party at his house in Washington D.C. for Sheik Omar Rahman, convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Towers bombing.

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-03-FBI-penttbomb-bayoumi.pdf

I know this is Basnan they are referring to because of this in the Joint Inquiry....

"In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. However, the FBI did not open an investigation]." pages 178-179
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Also in the joint inquiry, Basnan, the person Bandar Bush has sent thousands of dollars to.....

"After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter." -page 177
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

The FBI Agent who interviewed Saleh al-Hussayen on the evening  of September 11 speaks....

"Interview of FBI Special Agent _________

________participated in one interview of Saleh al-Hussayen.
 _________received a lead that Hussayen stayed in the same hotel as some of the hijackers prior to 9/11. Before interviewing him, ___{9/11 classified information}___________________. She also determined that he had a connection to _______.
 As his wife was speaking with ____________noticed that Hussayen was muttering and drooping his head. _________asked if he was OK. His wife dismissed her concerns and said he was fine.
 __________called the paramedics. When the paramedics arrived, they asked _______if Hussayen could have been "faking it."
 Hussayen was taken to the hospital."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

While at the hospital the FBI agent continued speaking with the wife......

"She said that she and her husband had come to the U.S. for a "holiday."
 His wife stated that Hussayen had a "brother" in Idaho, but they did not visit him. His wife also stated that while in the Washington, DC area, she and her husband did not visit any monuments or museums, which __________thought was odd.
 When _____________asked her how and why she had a Virginia drivers license, she stated that she thought it would be a good "souvenir," that she had got it on 9/10/01, and that a friend of theirs or __________helped her get it.

At the hospital, _________asked Hussayen's wife whether she thought her husband could have been involved with the events of 9/11 in any way. The wife responded, "I don't know,"__________found this response extremely unusual.

Hussayen was released from the hospital within 2 hours, which led _______to believe that whatever his condition it would not have been that serious.

__________thought it significant that the couple had traveled to several cities and met with numerous individuals but the wife did not know who they were or what her husband discussed with them; that Hussayen's wife wanted a Virginia driver's license as a "souvenir,"and that Hussayen's severe reaction started when ________had asked his wife why they moved to the hotel where they were staying at the time of the interview. Hussayen's wife said that they had moved to that hotel from another in the area because they wanted a kitchenette, but ___________found that explanation suspicious in view of the fact that there was nothing in the fridge nor any indication that the kitchenette had been used at all."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

He was just one of several suspicious Saudis flying out of the country as soon as possible......

"On September 19, 2001, once the ban on International flights had been lifted, Hussayen was allowed to leave the United States and return to Saudi Arabia. Five months later he joined the Saudi government as President of the Affairs of the Holy Mosques Masjid al-Haram (Grand Mosque) in Mecca and Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (Prophet's Mosque) in Medina."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleh_Ibn_Abdul_Rahman_Hussayen#cite_note-3

FBI documents reveal more about these flights........

"Event: On 9/19/01 A 727 plane left LAX, Ryan FLT #441 To Orlando FL W/ETA of 4-5PM.
The Plane was Chartered either by the Saudi Arabian Royalty Family or Osama Bin Laden."
page 3/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

That was one flight. There were several, including this one.....

"The Saudi Arabian group was headed by H.R.H. Prince Ahmed Bin Salman Bin Abdulaziz" page 11/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

"Late in its investigation, reacting to press allegations that Abu Zubaydah had referred to a Saudi prince in his interrogations, the Commission asked “what information does the CIA have” about whether such assertions were made in Zubaydah’s interrogations. (CIA Question for the Record No. 3, dated May 20, 2004). We knew the CIA believed this was untrue but we asked the question formally to get any relevant information for the record. We cannot find a record of a CIA response."
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20071222-INTEL-MEMO.pdf

The 9-11 Commission meets with our Saudi friends.....

"Meeting with Deputy Foreign Minister Nizar Madani
 Location: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Riyadh

Philip Zelikow began with an overview of the Commission's work and asked questions on the Kingdom's willingness and capacity to fight terrorism, both before and after September 11 2001.

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

Their interview with Basnan didn't go well.....

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

Their meeting with Thumairy didn't go well either......

From their interview with Thumairy:

"Notably, without being asked, Thumairy volunteered that he did not find an apartment for these visitors or make any reservations for them. He also denied recognizing the names Qualid Moncef Benomrane and Mohdar Abdullah. AI-Thumairy stated that he did not recognize the name Omar al-Bayoumi. When shown a photo of al-Bayoumi, al-Thumairy first denied recognizing him. At this time, Major Khalid whispered something to him in Arabic, and Thumairy said in English, Oh, Bayoumi." Al-Thumairy then acknowledged that he recognized al-Bayoumi because he had seen him on television, but he denied ever seeing him in Los Angeles."

"Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."

http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

They had two interviews with Thumairy....

9-11 commission second interview with Thumairy:

"At this point, al-Thumairy was asked again about Omar al-Bayoumi. Al-Thumairy was reminded that at his interview the previous night, he had initially denied recognizing al- Bayoumi until Major Khalid said something to him, which was when he acknowledged recognizing al-Bayoumi from the media. AI-Thumairy was also informed that we have information that shows numerous phone calls between him and al-Bayoumi over a short period in December 1999, from both al-Thumairy's cell and landline phones. Finally, al-Thumairy was told that since speaking with him the prior night, we were told by another witness [i.e. Khalil al-Khalil] that he had been seen meeting with al-Bayoumi on several occasions at the KFM. Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

"Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

Their meeting with Saud al-Rasheed didn't go well either..

"We believe that al-Rasheed was being deceptive. His our impression that he has had enough time to develop a coherent story and is sticking to it (and that he even may have been coached at some point)."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

For info on him see....
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=51281.msg1452995#msg1452995

At the very same time that investigators were discovering how Saudi Arabian government officials were directly involved in the 9-11 attacks President Bush and his administration made it against the law to tell the truth by classifying the information in order to point the finger at Iraq...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OMI_rNWDrs>

After America is Attacked (by design)by their Ally Saudi Arabia and their other Ally Israel monitors and documents the event, The U.S. Military Industrial Complex send Americans' tax dollars down the toilet spending trillions of dollars and sending thousands of young patriots to their deaths protecting Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Government thinks it has a right to privacy and you have none The American people have been scammed by traitors and it's time to pay the piper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJ--Z3lvaQ

Prince Bandar on PBS, 1 month after the 9-11 attacks, speaking of Bin Laden and his infrastructure:

Original Airdate: October 11, 2001
LOWELL BERGMAN: So have- did you underestimate him, the way we have apparently underestimated him?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: We underestimated the power of the people around him that created this- what we see today, yes.
LOWELL BERGMAN: The infrastructure.
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: Infrastructure that was developed. And it is not his infrastructure.
LOWELL BERGMAN: Whose is it?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: I think it's the brain child of the people around him. One of them is this Egyptian, al-Zawahiri, and-
LOWELL BERGMAN: Because he's-
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: He is- I think he's more educated, more trained for that. He was part of a jihad organization in Egypt. And that's the same group who planned the assassination of President Sadat and all the trouble that went into Egypt. And I think they he- he had the brain to bring specialists, if you want, in different areas. And now we discover maybe we should not have underestimated. Maybe- maybe we should have paid more attention to how far an evil brain can go.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/etc/script.html

LOL! Yea, the Infrastructure that allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen wasn't set up by CIA and Saudi Intelligence, it was all set up by Zawahiri. Right!



How The CIA helped the Saudi Terrorists:

http://dp8hsntg6do36.cloudfront.net/56be016694c05f41f6000009/4aa851a2-9ca4-4224-8098-5f5cac5664f4high.webm

The result of the CIA and Saudi Intelligence helping the hijackers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9QN3AkydYY
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2016, 09:43:53 AM »
There is a lot of dot connecting that can now result in more incriminating findings.  I pulled up a lot of info from many posts I made years ago and I need to sift through it.  In a nutshell though, I think that once again, this information is going to help further prove that the Saudi's themselves, to use Indira Singh's words, served as a smokescreen to obfuscate military industrial complex corporations/defense contractor/intelligence agency collaboration.  I will post only one older article for now, and when I have time will expound on this with quotes from older posts.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060929171840/http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/bin/site/wrappers/media-show_clips_leaders-4496X.html

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O'Neill Met with Muslim Activists Tied to Charities Raided by Treasury


Glenn R. Simpson
Wall Street Journal Thursday, April 18, 2002

WASHINGTON -- Two weeks after his agents raided the offices of several Islamic charities and businesses suspected of financing terrorism, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill met with two politically connected Muslim activists, one a longtime Bush family associate, who each had a tie to the targeted groups.

The April 4 luncheon with Mr. O'Neill was convened to allow Muslim-Americans to voice complaints about the March 20 raid on the International Institute for Islamic Thought and 19 related entities that operate out of offices at 555 Grove St. in Herndon, Va., a Washington suburb.

Among the Muslim leaders attending was Talat Othman, a longtime associate and supporter of President Bush's family who gave a benediction at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia in August 2000. Mr. Othman went to the Treasury representing the Arab-American Business and Professional Association. But he also serves on the board of Amana Mutual Funds Trust, an investment firm founded by M. Yacqub Mirza, the Northern Virginia businessman who set up most of the entities targeted by the Treasury and whose tax records were sought in the raid.

Also at the meeting was Khaled Saffuri, head of the Islamic Institute, a group he co-founded with GOP activist Grover Norquist to organize conservative Muslims. The institute has accepted $20,000 in contributions from another Grove Street entity suspected of terrorist connections, the Safa Trust, as earlier reported by Newsweek. Asked for comment, Mr. Norquist, a board member of the institute, confirmed the donation. Mr. Saffuri couldn't be reached.

Messrs. Othman and Saffuri weren't targeted in the raid. Nancy Luque, a lawyer for Mr. Mirza and his enterprises and partners, said her client and his partners and enterprises have no connection to terrorists. Mr. Mirza didn't attend the Treasury meeting.

The meeting reflects the increasing complexity of the Bush administration's crackdown on terror financing. As the global investigation broadens, the labyrinthine money trail is leading to more and more seemingly mainstream entities, generating political controversy. Some of the people targeted in the March 20 raids in Virginia are well-established figures in the U.S. Muslim community, and their treatment has generated an intense backlash against the Bush administration. Similar controversies have erupted in both the Arab world and in Europe as governments have frozen assets at the behest of the U.S. without disclosing detailed evidence to support the moves.

The case also highlights conflicts between the Bush administration's domestic political goals and its war on terror. GOP officials began courting the U.S. Muslim community intensely in the late 1990s, seeking to add that ethnic bloc to the party's political base. But when the war on terror was launched in September, the Bush administration retreated from some positions Republicans had taken to gain the Muslim support, including opposition to the use of secret evidence in immigration cases, and began mass immigration-violator roundups within Muslim communities.

Rob Nichols, a Treasury spokesman, said the April 4 meeting was initiated by Treasury officials in response to the harsh criticism it has received in the U.S. Muslim community in the raid's aftermath. About a dozen Muslim leaders were asked to attend, including representatives of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, the American Muslim Council, and the Arab American Institute.

"We invited to meet with senior Treasury officials those who were most critical of our effort," Mr. Nichols said. "We wanted some honest feedback." Mr. Nichols said he didn't know whether Mr. O'Neill or his aides knew of any connections Messrs. Othman and Saffuri might have with the groups under scrutiny. Another Treasury official added: "There are many well-intentioned, credible people who become unknowingly associated with groups being investigated for terrorist financing activities. It would be unfair to shun such people."

The Islamic Institute declared itself pleased with the encounter. "The meeting was constructive, and the leaders expressed their concerns to Secretary O'Neill regarding the insensitive actions of Treasury agents during the raids against the Muslim American organizations, and concerns of the community that civil-rights violations occurred," the Islamic Institute said on its Web site. "Secretary O'Neill promised that these concerns would be investigated."

Bruce Zagaris, an asset-forfeiture lawyer who represents clients in similar cases, said a meeting between Treasury officials and anyone who might be associated with an entity under investigation is very unusual. "It's virtually impossible [to arrange such a meeting], especially with the Treasury secretary," Mr. Zagaris said. "It's very difficult to even get phone calls returned."

According to a search warrant justifying the raid -- which was approved by a federal judge -- Treasury agents were looking for "any and all information referencing in any way" numerous terrorist groups and individuals. Among them were Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization and two anti-Israeli groups, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Hamas.

Mr. Othman says he knows Mr. Mirza only slightly and agreed to serve on the board of Amana last summer after the two men met at a conference. He said he doesn't believe Amana is part of the federal probe. He added that trustees such as himself "have nothing really to do with the fund," which makes investments according to Islamic principles and is managed on a daily basis by another investment firm. Though neither the investment firm nor Mr. Othman is named in the search warrant, it does demand all records related to "any other entity sharing officers, directors, trustees, or employees with the listed entities."

Two nonprofits affiliated with Mr. Mirza and named in the search warrant, the SAAR Foundation Inc. and the Heritage Education Trust Inc., held large blocks of shares in Amana's mutual funds in 1997, according to SEC records. The SEC documents and other records detailing connections between Mr. Othman and the Islamic Institute and the raided groups were compiled by the National Security News Service, a Washington based nonprofit research group.

Mr. Othman has ties to the Bush family going back to the 1980s, when he served with George W. Bush on the board of a Texas petroleum firm, Harken Oil & Gas Inc. Mr. Othman has visited the White House during the administrations of both President Bush and his father George H.W. Bush. Mr. Othman also is a longtime campaign donor who gives to both parties but tends to favor Republicans, giving more than $10,000 during the past decade to GOP groups and supporting the presidential bids of both Bushes.

Mr. Othman also is on the board of Mr. Saffuri's Islamic Institute, the GOP-leaning group that received $20,000 from the Safa Trust, one of the raid's targets. The president of the Safa Trust, Jamal Barzinji, is a former business associate of Switzerland-based investor Youssef Nada, whose assets were frozen last fall after the Treasury designated him a person suspected of giving aid to terrorists. A naturalized American, Mr. Barzinji serves as an officer of at least three other Virginia groups listed in the search warrant. Ms. Luque, who also represents Mr. Barzinji, denied that he supports terrorists.

Mr. Barzinji and his Herndon business partners also are active political givers, donating about $40,000 to federal candidates since 1990. He also is listed in federal records as a client of the lobbying firm Janus-Merritt Strategies LLC, which formerly employed Mr. Norquist, the GOP activist who co-founded the Islamic Institute. The firm received $40,000 in 2000 lobbying for human rights and foreign-policy issues, records show. Mr. Norquist didn't work on the account, according to Ms. Luque and Janus-Merrit.

In a speech last fall to the Organization of Islamic Conference in Doha, Qatar, Mr. Barzinji boasted of the U.S. Muslim community's rising political influence. "At this time, the president and his administration are continually seeking the counsel and input of American Muslim leaders," Mr. Barzinji said. "At no other time has the Muslim community in America been more effective in relation to the processes of American government."

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ISLAMIC LINKS

The Muslim American businesses and nonprofit groups raided on March 20 for suspected terrorist ties in Northern Virginia have noteworthy connections.

• M. Yacqub Mirza
Set up most entities targeted by the raid, including the Safa Trust, and founded an investment firm, Amana Mutual Funds Trust.

• Jamal Barzinji
President of the Safa Trust and an officer in other groups targeted by the raid. Also a former business associate of Switzerland-based investor Youssef Nada, whom the Treasury has said is suspected of giving aid to terrorists.

• Khaled Saffuri
Head of the Islamic Institute, a Republican-leaning political group that received a $20,000 contribution from the Safa Trust. Met with Treasury Secretary O'Neill to complain about the raid.

• Talat Othman
Bush family friend who is on the board of both Mirza's Amana Funds and the Islamic Institute. Also met with O'Neill about the raid.

Source: WSJ research
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-- Roger Thurow contributed to this article.

Write to Glenn R. Simpson at glenn.simpson@wsj.com

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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2016, 11:04:22 AM »
There is a lot of dot connecting that can now result in more incriminating findings.  I pulled up a lot of info from many posts I made years ago and I need to sift through it.  In a nutshell though, I think that once again, this information is going to help further prove that the Saudi's themselves, to use Indira Singh's words, served as a smokescreen to obfuscate military industrial complex corporations/defense contractor/intelligence agency collaboration.


http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=403&st=0#entry5306330
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2016, 12:25:01 PM »
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/07/20/9-11-bushs-guilt-and-28-pages.html
Eric ZUESSE | 20.07.2016 | WORLD

9/11: Bush's Guilt, and the 28 Pages

On Friday July15th, as the national news media were either on vacation or preparing for the opening of the Trump National Convention on Monday the 18th, the long-awaited release of the ‘missing’ 28 pages from the US Senate’s 9/11 report («DECEMBER 2002: JOINT INQUIRY INTO INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES BEFORE AND AFTER THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001») occurred. The official title of this document is «PART FOUR – FINDING, DISCUSSION AND NARRATIVE REGARDING CERTAIN SENSITIVE NATIONAL SECURITY MATTERS», and it constitutes pages 6-34 of a pdf. (Some writers mistakenly call it «29 pages».)

It «was kept secret from the public on the orders of former President George W. Bush», and remained secret under Bush’s successor Barack Obama, until that Friday night late in Obama’s Second Administration, right before a week of Republican National Convention news would be dominating the news (along with any racial incidents, which would be sure to distract the public even more from any indication of Bush’s guilt). The pdf was of a picture-file so as to be non-searchable by journalists and thus slow to interpret, and thus would impede press-coverage of it.
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9/11 treason enters MSM
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2016, 12:06:24 PM »
Paul Sperry hits a home run - I've noticed his articles on Saudi Arabia and 9/11 always end up on the "opinion" page. His latest is featured in the "NEWS" section - he's forcing the MSM to face reality --

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The claim that the Saudis are innocent for 9/11 is total bull
By Paul Sperry July 23, 2016 | 4:26pm


Saudi Arabia and an army of K Street lobbyists are now claiming that several Saudi government suspects named in the newly released “28 pages” have all been “exonerated” from 9/11 involvement. The gullible mainstream media are parroting the latest spin, but it’s total bull.

Saudi lobbyists are circulating a 38-page “refutation” of the 28 pages on Capitol Hill. This tissue of lies claims investigators for both the FBI and 9/11 Commission chased down all the leads in the 28-page section of the earlier congressional inquiry into 9/11 and came up empty.


It maintains that three key Saudi officials implicated in the report— Omar al-Bayoumi, Fahad al-Thumairy and Osama Basnan — were all cleared of any role in the conspiracy.

“Each of these names was investigated in detail by the 9/11 Commission, by the recent review commission and by the FBI, and none of them found any real evidence to indicate that they were agents of Saudi Arabia, that they acted to assist the hijackers or that they knew of the plans to hijack the planes,” the Saudi white paper states. “The time is long overdue to set aside these speculations and conspiracy theories,” it adds.

Aside from the fact that several 9/11 Commission members recently denied exonerating the Saudis, summaries of interviews between commission investigators and these Saudi suspects concluded they were “deceptive” and asked them to take lie-detector tests because bank and phone records, along with the testimony of material witnesses, so wildly contradicted their testimonies. In other words, they lied through their teeth.

Let’s start with Thumairy, the Saudi consular official who was at the center of the US support network for Saudi hijackers who attacked the Pentagon......
http://nypost.com/2016/07/23/the-claim-that-the-saudis-are-innocent-for-911-is-total-bull/

I urge you to read the whole article. Sperry is forcing reality into the MSM
http://nypost.com/2016/07/23/the-claim-that-the-saudis-are-innocent-for-911-is-total-bull/

Saudi guilt = disgusting treasonous cover up = CIA and White House exposed as co-conspirators
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #73 on: July 26, 2016, 01:48:14 PM »
Here is a possible new connection revealed in the 28 pages- this is my work- and TahoeBlue- I believe this also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

https://www.facebook.com/albert.izard.9/posts/2100856933471954


The 28 Pages- A New Lead Emerges:
Albert Izard

What we know so far, as reported in the 28 pages release: Abu Zubaydah's phone book contained a number of US phone numbers/ contacts, ones that the FBI noted in their report included ASPCOL, the Colorado entity for the Hala Ranch property holdings of Prince Bandar and an entity named Scimitar Security which provided security services at the ranch.

There are two corporate entities in the United States (and I could only find these two) called Scimitar Security. The first is in Colorado, incorporated in 1995, and appears to have no ties to terrorists, no ties to the Bandar property and no notable ties of any kind.

The second Scimitar Security is located in San Diego, was incorporated in 1998 and at one time employed Jehad Serwan Mostafa, a terrorist currently on the FBI's most wanted list and alleged to be an emissary of current Al- Queda # 1.

Jehad's father Abdul Halim G. Mostafa is the owner of Scimitar Security. He was quoted in stories shortly after 9/11 due to worshiping at the Al-Madina Al-Munawara mosque where Omar Al-Bouyami had been placed.

Abdul Mostafa appeared in a small role in the 1999 Mark Wahlberg film "The Three Kings" and produced a 2008 independent film about Muslim identity called MOZLYM.

Jehad's California security guard license # 1289423 was cancelled in 2006.

The FBI reports that Jehad Serwan Mostafa has used the alias Abu Abdullah al-Muhajir, which is the name Jose Padilla (recall the FBI foiled Jose Padilla plan based on intel from Abu Zubaydah) had on his fake passport. Sources say as a youth, Jehad met Anwar al-Awlaki when the former Al Qaeda leader worked as an imam at a La Mesa mosque in 2000.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2010/aug/06/portrait-terror-suspect-sd-ties-begins-emerge/

If this is the same Scimitar Security that Abu Zubaydah had the number for, what was the connection between Zubaydah, Bandar and Scimitar Scecurity? If the FBI had Abu Zubaydah's notebook by 2002 and was following up on leads, why was currently most wanted terrorist Jehad Serwan Mostafa allowed to leave the country in 2006? How much did Bandar pay Scimitar Security and what work did they actually provide?


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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2016, 10:54:20 AM »
Now that the "28 pages" have been released (On a Friday afternoon, on the day congress left for summer recess, the weekend before The Republican convention was start...get the picture?) and the MSM for the most part continued in their role as a tool of the Government either ignoring them, or telling the people there is nothing to see here..(i.e Talking point: "there is no there, there") a new thread will delve into just what are in those pages and what is still classified.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=316875.0

Now that "the 28 pages" have been released. The intention of the above thread is to explore, examine and explain what they say and the significance of them.

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The above are Dogmatic terms that are irrelevant to me. I think it is more beneficial to try to align individual Beliefs with Truth and individual perception/perspective with Reality. Which is more difficult than staying out of dogmatic rabbit holes.

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Ironically enough(I'm aware of the forum I'm posting on) I'm not really into "conspiracy theories"

But that is what "The 9-11 attacks" are.

New Saudi Ambassador: Replace "9-11 NEVER FORGET" with "LET'S MOVE ON"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-al-saud-28-pages-20160725-snap-story.html

I don't think so

I put my "9-11 conspiracy theory" out there for "debunking" ...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11409137&postcount=330

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11415783&postcount=331

I was not impressed with the "debunking"

The former jref forum - now internationalskeptics- have a "28 pages" thread. The majority of members there, as well as I presume here, are stuck in a "truther vs "debunker" mindset. "Truther" "debunker" MIHOP LIHOP these are terms that frankly don't mean anything to me.

Several years ago I realized that there could never be a real, effective, "9-11 truth movement". Don't get me wrong. It's a nice idea, a noble effort put forth by some, and I support those that truly care and identify as being a part of a group identifying itself as such. But IMO it can't really exist because.....
 
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Their 28 pages thread can be seen here...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297608

IMO what is interesting there, is how discussion of the 28 pages is intentionally suppressed by most there, in order to maintain a "truther-debunker" internet flame war. Information on the 28 pages I post is not as easily "debunked" as "no planes" "space beams" "fake phone calls" etc, and so if the information can't be "debunked", and it must be "debunked" because a "truther" (the role assigned to me)is posting it, then the "truther"(my assigned role) must be destroyed. All this talk about Saudis and brainwashed Islamic nut-jobs is simply a "clever way" for jimd3100 to hide that he's really a "Jew hating racist Nazi that believes Israel did 9-11." LOL!! It gets crazy as the challenge to their world view and group-think, along with their ignorance on the subject, inflames their hatred as the thread implodes on itself. Which is a win in their minds I suppose, because release of the 28 pages changed nothing. It really only shows how seedy the forum is IMO, and only reinforces my belief that the truther-debunker BS is just another distraction and isn't even real unless you believe it is.

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Years before the "28 pages" were released I titled this thread...

What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=254040.0

I knew with a title like that, once they were released, I would be proven correct, or I would be proven wrong. Obviously as I said in this thread, I couldn't know everything in the 28 pages, but was certain of some things in them....

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......What is in the 28 pages of the joint inquiry that were blacked out? We can know some of what is blacked out by studying the FBI reports, and released notes of the 9-11 Commission and filling in the blanks. It's worse than treason.

Unfortunately for those who despise "jimd3100" (elements of cultist thinking self-described "truther" and "debunker" camps)the contents of this thread were quite accurate, so I go on. I'm not trying to explain how smart I am, I am trying to explain how it's done. For years 5-6 times a week, the first thing I would do after turning my computer on would be a google search for any mention of "Thumairy" in the last 24 hours. Because I was 100% certain Fahad Al-Thumairy was mentioned in the 28 pages, and this took about 5 seconds to do. He works for the Saudi Government, and he is a terrorist. Being the "contact" in America for the first hijackers arriving, and escorting other terrorists into my country. The Saudis know this, and so does elements of the U.S. Government, and I know it, so when is this going to be exposed? For years I waited. Then April 2016, 60 minutes had a story....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft-2/

I'm not trying to explain how smart I am, I am trying to explain how it's done......

60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft explains the challenges of reporting on a 28-page, classified document about the 9/11 attacks

What Kroft and the 60 Minutes team were able report on is information in the public record, much of it buried in footnotes and appendices.

Kroft's team also searched through dozens of original documents, including FBI reports and 9/11 Commission staff memos upon which those footnotes and appendices are based. Some of these documents have been partially declassified and placed in the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration. Other original source materials are filed in legal proceedings and as the result of Freedom of Information Act disclosures. The 60 Minutes reporters culled relevant clues and cross-referenced documents to fill in some blanks.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft/

^^ - How it's done.

Why it took them so long I don't know.

This 60 minutes news report AFAIK is the first time Fahad Thumairy has been mentioned on a television news story. - jimd3100
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11226920&postcount=158

Go here for continuing examination of the "28 pages" (OK 29 pages really, but for years "28 pages" was the term so I'll use it for that reason)

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=316875.0
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2016, 08:01:18 AM »
Thanks for your contribution Astrobrick. Some people cant be bothered to appreciate new members.

I am sure the Colorado Scimitar was related to Prince Bandar. The other Scimitar is interesting as well though.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #76 on: September 13, 2016, 12:35:18 PM »
Here is a possible new connection revealed in the 28 pages- this is my work- and TahoeBlue- I believe this also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

https://www.facebook.com/albert.izard.9/posts/2100856933471954

I actually did look into this ......
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also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

The research I did on this after seeing Astrobricks' post did seem to confirm to me that he is correct that this company in the WTC was evidently run by a couple of (future)international arms dealers. I put (future) because it was a few years after 2001 that reports of them being Arms dealers surfaced. That doesn't mean that they weren't unknown dealers in 2001. From my recollection some unknown anonymous source stated that they were in the business of importing "dried tomatoes" while at the WTC. I did look into this-I didn't, and still don't know what to make of it-it's interesting/weird, but I had nothing else to add.


Thanks for your contribution Astrobrick. Some people cant be bothered to appreciate new members.

I also did look at and go over the information on Scimitar Security Astrobrick posted. Again, I don't have anything to add to it, other than interesting/weird. Just so you know-just because there is no response does not mean it's not being read/followed up on etc. If a non response from me is taken as a lack of appreciation - perhaps I'm at fault for giving a false impression. It is appreciated.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #77 on: September 13, 2016, 05:35:53 PM »
Its just happenstance i posted that after your post. That was a mistake. i would never question your contribution. Im sure you did look into it. No criticism meant.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2017, 05:16:52 PM »
I wonder why it is that Omar al Bayoumi picked Isamu Dyson to accompany him to meet Hazmi and Midhar. Dyson understood little of their conversation at the meeting, perhaps that had something to do with it but why did he need to go at all.
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Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2017, 08:03:41 AM »
I wonder why it is that Omar al Bayoumi picked Isamu Dyson to accompany him to meet Hazmi and Midhar. Dyson understood little of their conversation at the meeting, perhaps that had something to do with it but why did he need to go at all.

The FBI report on their interview with Dyson IMO shows why Bayoumi had him come along.....

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

Bayoumi suggested they go to "the restaurant", after he met with Thumairy, because Bayoumi said he had been there before and it served halal food. But he "had trouble" finding it, and when he did, it wasn't a restaurant anymore but a meat market. But a restaurant just up the street served halal food. So it was just "a coincidence" he met the hijackers there. He has a witness. Dyson.
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