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« on: January 31, 2008, 01:29:09 PM »

WORLD WAR I (1914 - 1918) & II (1939 – 1945)



Ustaše
The Ustaše was a Croatian nationalist far-right movement. It engaged in terrorist activity before World War II and ruled, under Nazi protection.

Genocide
The exact number of victims is not known, only estimates exist. The number of murdered Jews is fairly reliable: around 32,000 Jews were killed during WWII on NDH territory. Gypsies (Yugoslav Roma) numbered around 40,000 fewer after the war. The number of murdered Serbs is much larger, and estimates tend to vary between at least 300,000 and 700,000.

The history textbooks in the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia had cited 700,000 as the total number of victims at Jasenovac. According to the Simon Wiesenthal Center (citing the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust), "Ustasa terrorists killed 500,000 Serbs, expelled 250,000 and forced 250,000 to convert to Catholicism."

Video of the conditions in Yugoslavia during WW2-

Jasenovac - The Vatican's Holocaust in Croatia full version
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The Vatican's Holocaust

The sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century
By Avro Manhattan

The Vatican's Holocaust - Revealed at Last!

A sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century. Startling revelations of forced conversions, mass murder of non-Catholics, Catholic extermination camps, disclosures of Catholic clergy as commanders of concentration camps; documented with names, dates, places, pictures and eyewitness testimony.

The Vatican frowns on the birth of Yugoslavia - Catholic policy of penetration and disintegration - Croat Separatism and the Catholic Church - Catholic storm troopers - The Ustashi.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 01:29:31 PM »

blood sacrifices most of em
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 07:04:04 PM »


Stane Kukavica, a Franciscan monk, also seen in the uniform of the Ustashi.


The Franciscan monk, Miroslav Filipovic, left, as a priest; wearing his cassock, right, in Ustashi uniform. Filipovic was the commandant of the concentration camp at Jasenovac.

Jasenovac concentration camp distinguished itself because of the number of young inmates sent there. In 1942 the camp held over 24,000 Orthodox youngsters. Twelve thousand of them were murdered in cold blood.

Father Filipovic, chief ecclesiastical murderer of Croatia, although a Monk of the Order of St. Francis, was a fanatical Ustashi long before the Second World War. His political and religious ruthlessness can be judged by the fact that, while addressing a battalion of the armed Ustashi in the village of Drakulic, he killed an Orthodox child with his own hands.

Resenting the Orthodox reluctance to be "re-baptized," he told the armed Ustashi to "re-Christen these degenerates in the name of God. You follow my example." One thousand five hundred Orthodox Serbs were executed in one single day.

As Commandant of the Jasenovac Concentration Camp, Father Filipovic, aided by Father Zvonko Brekalo, Father Z. Lipovac, and Father Culina, caused the death of 40,000 men, women and children during the period of his administration.


Hitler with Ante Pavelic, head of the Ustashi in Croatia


A Roman Catholic priest forcibly "converting" a whole village of Orthodox Serbs. 'Father' Ante Djuric, of the District of Dvor, always opened his "sermons" with the following preliminary: "The Orthodox of this District have only three ways out: to accept the Catholic faith, to move out [leaving behind them all their possessions], or to be cleansed with the metal broom."


Forced Conversion. The Ustashi promised the Serbs that they would be spared death if they converted from Eastern Orthodoxy to Roman Catholicism. Thousand converted, only to be killed anyway.

Additional decrees were issued, e.g. "Law concerning the conversion from one religion to another." On June 1, 1941, the Ustashi Premier set up an Office of Religious Affairs, in charge of "all matters pertaining to questions connected with the conversion of the Orthodox Church" (Decree No. 11,689).


In Jasenovac and other camps, the Ustashi broke the jaws of the victims and removed the gold crowns, took away the medallions, and took the hidden gold from the rich prisoners. The gold ended up in the palace of Archbishop Stepinac and was later shipped to Rome.


Gold watches taken from Serb and Jewish victims and hidden in the residence of the Archbishop of Zagreb, where they were found after the retreat of the Ustashi.
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JRI ANNOUNCEMENT OF ITS CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE VATICAN BANK
www.vaticanbankclaims.com/press1.html
THE JASENOVAC RESEARCH INSTITUTE
PO Box 332 Birmingham, Mi. 48012

The Time For Restitution Is At Hand For Serbs, Jews, Romas and Other Victims of Ustashe Genocide: The Vatican Bank and Others Must Return $2.325 Billion in Looted Assets.

The Jasenovac Research Institute urges everyone who is concerned with the search for justice for the victims of the Ustashe Holocaust to help us in our efforts to achieve a successful outcome of this historically important case.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 07:05:49 PM »

European leaders (and Kings of the past) rise to power with the sway of the Vatican and it's millions of "Church" members, others are toppled in like manner. The Germans claimed to be building a Christian nation, at times, deceiving Bible believing Protestant Christians into helping them gain control, only to then turn on all forms of Christianity with science (burning churches and books) setting up a pagan form of government / religion in nazism.
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Nazi pagan symbolism parade


The neo-pagan movement born in the 19th century maintained that European societies should return to pre-Christian paganism. Some neo-pagans, inimical to Divine religions such as Judaism and Christianity, favored the barbarian lifestyle of pagan societies. The Nazi propaganda poster equates the SS with ancient pagan warriors.


The Nazis' devotion to neo-pagan teachings was the main reason for their hostility towards the Jews. Throughout the years of Nazi rule, spectacles reminiscent of ancient pagan ceremonies were staged all over Germany. The opening ceremony of the Berlin Olympics, shown here, was one of these.


The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say:

"The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy."

If you are not aware of what a concordat is, a concordat is an agreement between the Vatican and a government. As far as the Vatican is concerned, that government that signed the concordat has now become a part of the government of God, and the Vatican fully intends to stabilize that government, give it divine protection, and give it international protection.

Signing the concordat is Cardinal Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII). By 1933 he was the Vatican Secretary of State. Second from left is Franz von Papen, a sinister Nazi and devout Roman Catholic who was Hitler's ace diplomat and the Vatican's agent in helping to bring Hitler to power.


Hitler praying


Hitler with Catholic Reich Bishop Muller
(The Bishop refuses to give the salute in public choosing the masonic hand shake instead, wearing the Vatican's Maltese cross)


Hitler greeting a Catholic Cardinal


Catholic Cardinal Michael Faulhaber at a Nazi rally




"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party."
-Adolf Hitler


"The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order."
-Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage


Mein Kampf was ghost-written by a Jesuit priest named Father Staempfle. Hitler the dunce was the tool of much more cunning men. Hitler had only one talent: he was a good public speaker and knew how to harangue the masses.
Edmond Paris, Secret History of the Jesuits, 197



The Vatican and The Third Reich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD_lBstvptE&NR=1



The Roman salute is a gesture in which the arm is held out forward straight, with palm down. Sometimes the arm is raised upward at an angle, sometimes it is held out parallel to the ground. Despite the gesture's name, it is unclear whether the Romans used it as a form of military courtesy; the current interpretation of a "salute" would seem to have evolved over time, more substantially in recent periods.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 05:54:46 AM »

“The German author Walter Hagen gives also this discreet information: ‘The Jesuits’ Superior General, Count Halke von Ledochowski, was ready to organize, on the common basis of anti-communism, some collaboration between the German Secret Service and the Jesuit Order.’

As a result, within the SS Central Security Service, an organization was created, and most of its main posts were held by Roman Catholic priests wearing the black uniform of the Nazi SS. The Jesuit priest ‘father’ Himmler (uncle of Heinrich Himmler) was one of its superior officers.”

Edmond Paris (The Secret History of the Jesuits; 1975; Page 168)

“…Kurt Heinrich Himmler was chief of the Gestapo, which meant he held in his hand the essential reins of power of the Nazi regime. Was it his personal merits which earned him such a high position? Did Hitler see in him a superior genius when he compared him (Heinrich Himmler) to the creator of the Jesuit Order (Ignatius of Loyola)? It is certainly not what the testimonies of those who knew him imply, as they saw in him nothing more than mediocrity.

Was that ‘star’ of Heinrich Himmler shining with a borrowed ‘brightness’? Was it really Kurt Heinrich Himmler, the ostensible chief, who actually reigned over the Gestapo and the secret services? Who was sending millions of people, deported for political reasons, and Jews to their death? Was it the flat-faced nephew or was it the Jesuit priest uncle, the former Canon at the Court of Bavaria, one of Jesuit Superior General Ledochowski’s favorites, a Jesuit ‘father’ and superior officer of the Nazi SS?”

Edmond Paris (The Secret History of the Jesuits; 1975; Page 168)


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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 11:09:55 AM »

Roosevelt and Hitler

Roosevelt and Hitler used the Great Depression to usurp power!!

The Great Depression beginning in October 1929, caused the collapse of the world financial system. Millions of people throughout the world were thrown out of work and faced the prospect of starvation.... This "Federal" Reserve Bank engineered financial collapse gave Roosevelt the opportunity to usurp power in the U.S....and Hitler used the same crisis to become Führer in Germany.

This building —ground zero—was the headquarters of the "Federal" Reserve Bank —the most powerful of the 12 private "Federal" Reserve Banks that run the U.S.

Roosevelt had an office there and was director of at least 11 companies with ties to Hitler.

Birds of a feather do flock together!!

Roosevelt was the "good" dictator fighting his "evil" twin dictator Adolf Hitler.

The Reichstag Fire of 1933

Roosevelt's friend Ernst Sedgwick Hanfstaengl was actually in the Chancellery Building when the fire started.

This fake terror was the road to dictatorship for Hitler. He began a reign of terror by rounding up the enemies of the Reich.

This fake terror consolidated the dictatorship of Hitler and set Germany on a course for World War II.

The Roosevelt gang were/are experts on this type of fake terror to start wars and revolutions throughout the world. The evil Twin Towers were a typical example!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 12:46:18 AM »

RELIGION, ‘EDUCATION’, WAR AND WESTERNISATION...
...HOW THE ILLUMINATI CONQUERED THE EAST


David Icke Newsletter, February 17th 2008



What I have found across the world I found in Japan, even down to the original attempts to infiltrate the traditional culture by the Jesuits in the 16th century.

The Jesuit Order is a fascist operation that hides behind the cover of ‘Christianity’ while actually being an elite secret society within the Illuminati web. There are two hierarchies in all Illuminati organisations - the one the public sees and the one in the shadows with the real power.

So it is, therefore, with the Roman Church, which is just the Church of Babylon relocated. I have detailed at length the way the beliefs, rituals and symbols of the Church of Babylon (now Iraq) were simply recycled under another name when the bloodline cabal settled in Rome. It is no coincidence that the symbol of the Jesuit Order is the Sun.

The ‘front’ hierarchy claims to promote Christianity, the religion adopted as the State religion of Rome by the sun worshipper, Caesar Flavius Constantine, or ‘Constantine the Great’, who imposed the creed that Catholics must believe to this day at the Council of Nicea (also Nicaea) in 325AD.

How clever of them. They compiled, amid enormous conflict and bad blood, the Nicene Creed that imposed the beliefs that remain the foundation of Roman Catholicism to this day. The Creed included the ‘definitive’ version of ‘Jesus Christ’:
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.


Emperor Constantine, the founder of the official Catholic creed who actually worshipped the sun god, Sol Invictus, and a depiction of the Council of Nicea in what is now Iznik in north west Turkey.

All these long-winded and disappear-up-your-backside descriptions of Jesus and ‘his’ religion were a bit like today’s government legislation which is so often worded in apparent gobbledygook to obscure its real meaning.

In the case of the Nicene Creed, it was to hide the fact that the ‘new’ Christianity was the old sun god and moon goddess religion of Babylon under another guise. The inner elite knew this, of course - they just didn’t want the masses to know.

As with all religions, there is the public face of ‘Catholicism’ in the form of churches and men in long frocks; and the secret inner sanctum that knows it is all a scam and follows the ‘pure’ Satanic religion of Babylon.

In fact, this controlling force behind Catholicism is not a religion at all. It is a network of secret societies that emerged from the perversion of advanced esoteric knowledge taught in the ancient Mystery schools.

In the Roman Church we can see the outer and inner hierarchies very clearly. One is headed by the Pope, currently the former Nazi youth member, Benedict XVI, and the army of archbishops, bishops and priests throughout the world. Their job is to sell the official version of Roman Catholicism and many do this while actually believing what they say to be true.

The secret inner sanctum is headed by the Jesuits and their associated groupings like Opus Dei, the Knights Templar and the Knights of Malta. These are all secret societies hiding behind the cover of Christianity and the most powerful of them is the Society of Jesus - the Jesuits.


The two Popes: the official one, Joseph Ratzinger, and the so-called ‘Black Pope’, the new head of the Jesuit Order, Father Adolfo Nicolas, who has spent half his career in Japan.

The Jesuits have successfully operated under the radar for centuries and the full extent of their manipulation across the world in areas like religion, politics, banking, business, media and the military has only emerged more recently, indeed it is still emerging.

The Society of Jesus was created by Spanish aristocracy in the form of Ignatius Loyola, who was born at the Castle of Loyola in the Basque province of Guipúzcoa in Spain on Christmas Eve 1491. He and his associates founded the Jesuit Order in 1537 and it was given papal approval in 1540. They called themselves ‘Los Alumbrados’, or the ‘Illuminated Ones’.

It was from the start a secret society answering to the Illuminati and working to advance the goal of global domination. The Roman Church was just its vehicle and its cover, as it remains today, and in truth the Jesuit Order is a secret network that manipulates across the vast swathe of society and not just through religion.

The Jesuits were at the forefront of the colonisation of the world. The Zulu shaman, Credo Mutwa, talks often about the role played by Jesuits in destroying the ancient knowledge and ways of life in Africa. They began to appear in the years before the mass influx into Africa from Europe and they brought the Christian cross that would soon become familiar to the African peoples as their tribal culture was dismantled in the name of ‘Jesus’ and the British Empire.

The Jesuits are remembered in many legends as the one-legged or ‘monopod’ people because, in their long habits, it sometimes appeared that they had only one leg. They would target the key people in the tribal hierarchy and use their knowledge of black magic to make them think they were gods.

Once they had ‘converted’ the chiefs and their families the rest of the tribe would easily follow and this was the technique they used throughout Africa. It was clearly a centrally-agreed blueprint because, as I learned this week, they did exactly the same in Japan.

St. Francis Xavier (1506-1552)

One of Ignatius Loyola’s closest friends and a fellow founder of the Jesuits was a guy called Francis Xavier, who, like Loyola, was Spanish aristocracy. The two were room-mates at college in Paris and in the wake of the formation of the Jesuit Order Xavier travelled widely to ’spread the Christianity message’.

Xavier was chosen by Loyola to be the Jesuit head of missions to Asia and in 1542 he left his base in Portugal and headed for India, Malaysia and the Spice Islands before arriving in Japan on August 15th 1549. He had written in a letter to Loyola:

‘I have learnt from good authorities that there is a country near China called Japan, the inhabitants of which are all heathen, quite untouched by Muslims or Jews, and very eager to learn what they do not know both in things divine and things natural, I have determined to go thither as soon as I can …’

It was the start of the Illuminati’s effort to seize control of Japan and absorb its uniqueness into the enslaving uniformity that would later be called ‘Westernisation’. The plan would take many centuries to complete, but they are now virtually there.

Francis Xavier worked for both the Jesuits and the Portuguese royal family, for whom he was a ‘political emissary’. Like all Illuminati operatives he served many players in the same agenda because the Illuminati attack their targets on many fronts to destabilise and divide and rule. For example, along with Catholicism the Portuguese most famously introduced gunpowder to Japan.

Xavier was once again remarkably successful in converting tens of thousands of Japanese to Roman Catholicism, according to Ryu Ohta, a long-time researcher into the Illuminati agenda to conquer Japan. The blueprint was the same - employing the knowledge of black magic and mind control to target the ‘ruling class’ and ‘opinion formers’, who would then influence the population. Xavier and the Jesuits would also move onto China where he died in 1552.

Japan and China were, and still are to a much lesser extent today, vast libraries of ancient knowledge that the Illuminati wish to destroy. Roman Catholic dogma and ‘westernisation’ have been two of their major weapons in pursuit of this and the Jesuit Order has been a major player in the covert war on Japan  - firstly with the early Catholic missionaries like Xavier and then through the trading companies, corporations and wars that would follow.

The Japanese leader, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, became alarmed at how the Catholic missionaries and their fellow travellers, the foreign traders, were so aggressive and intolerant towards traditional Japanese beliefs and institutions and his concern was intensified as he saw how the same combination was colonising country after country in the name of Roman Catholicism.

In 1587 he issued an edict to expel the Jesuits and other missionaries and Catholicism was further suppressed in Japan during the Edo Period from 1603 when the country became largely isolated from the rest of the world, except for occasional trade with the Dutch, and traditional Japan prevailed.

But the Jesuits and the Illuminati would be back and in the 1850s the United States sent Matthew Calbraith Perry and a fleet of naval ships to end some 200 years of Japanese self-sufficiency and isolation. Perry demanded on threat of severe consequences that Japan open its borders to American trade and from that time the floodgates did swing.

Perry: gunboat diplomacy

The Japanese signed the Treaty of Kanagawa on March 31st, 1854 and for Japan it was a catastrophe. The influx of foreign money undermined the Japanese currency and caused serious inflation. The Japanese system of government during the isolation came to an end and a Western puppet government replaced it - the usual story all over the world.

Britain, Russia, France and the Netherlands also signed ‘unequal treaties’ with Japan which gave these countries far more rights than the Japanese (see ‘free trade’ to this day) and the United States established an embassy that still has enormous influence on the political and financial policies of Japan. If the people knew just how much there would be a revolution.

As you would expect, the Illuminati ‘cultural’ invasion of Japan, as with China, involved the notorious Scottish drug-running operation called Jardine Matheson, which has appeared in my books many times. In 1859, the assault on traditional Japan was significantly advanced by the Jardine Matheson agent, Thomas Blake Glover.

Glover would make a fortune selling arms to both sides in Japanese clan wars and he was highly influential in encouraging the westernisation of Japan. Appropriately, he had a home built in Nagasaki and it was Japan’s first western-style building.

Glover, in league with Jardine Matheson and other Illuminati operatives, manipulated Japan into following the western model of industrialisation and military conquest, and members of the leading Japanese families were sent to the West for their education and indoctrination, not least to Oxford University, the Illuminati’s prime centre for ‘educational’ indoctrination anywhere on earth. As the University’s website says:

‘Oxford welcomed its first Japanese students in the 19th century. Tomotsune Iwakura, the third son of Tomomi Iwakura, then Minister of the Right in Japan, was one of Oxford’s first Japanese students. He started at Balliol College, Oxford in 1873, and was followed by several more sons of the Japanese elite.

We have educated daughters too: Tsuda Umeko, founder of Japan’s first private women’s school of higher education, studied at St Hilda’s College, Oxford. The university has enjoyed close links with the Japanese Imperial Family, dating to the 1920s, when his Imperial Highness Prince Chichibu studied at Oxford. More recently, Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako studied here.’


What Francis Xavier and the original Jesuits had done on a much smaller scale by targeting the minds of the ruling class to influence the population was now being achieved on a massive scale and traditional Japan was rapidly usurped by the imposition of the Illuminati ‘culture’, better known Westernisation. As Oxford University crows:

‘We have strong and numerous collaborative links with a range of Japanese universities, business, and non-profit organisations, in disciplines ranging from anthropology and history to physics and medicine.’

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The Jesuits in Japan

The first 3 Jesuits to enter Japan were Francis Xavier, Alessandro Valignano and Francisco Cabral.

The Jesuits first entered Japan around 1549 and were warmly received by the Japanese Emperor.

The Jesuits called themselves "Christians" and said that they had come to preach "Christianity."

Isolated on their island empire, the Japanese had no knowledge of world history.

They did not know that Roman Emperor Constantine had created a counterfeit or substitute "Christianity" which still referred to itself as "Christian."
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 05:06:44 PM »

Nazi Germany invaded Russia in 1941
http://reformation.org/jesuits-in-russia.html

The Jesuits in Germany
http://reformation.org/jesuits-in-germany.html
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 10:03:01 PM »

Nazis fought alleged "Jewish communism", when in actuality communist/Marxist rule both in Russia and Germany came from Vatican City, Rome, Italy, it's bankers and manned with Catholics (some of whome were Jew or Protestant mason converts). The roots of communism predates Bolshevism.

Germany was full of war resisters actually dividing the country with the Protestant war resisters to the North and East, while the Catholics who often joined Hitler's ranks were concentrated in the South(Bavaria). It was the Catholic Party that launched Hitler to power.

Did the Catholic Church help German Nazism?
Hitler was a Catholic and Nazism was founded in strongly Catholic Bavaria where Hitler gained his first victories in Munich. Franz von Papen, leader of the Catholic Party, formed a coalition with Hitler and persuaded the President to appoint Hitler as Chancellor (Prime Minister). Pope Pius XI signed a Concordat with Hitler to show his approval of him, and to encourage international recognition of the Nazi state.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 10:03:43 PM »

The Protestant churches in Nazi Germany

When the Lutheran Reformation took place, and for centuries afterwards, Germany as a nation-state did not yet exist. There was a loosely-structured, decentralized empire (the so-called Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation), consisting of a multitude of territorial states. The latter could be quite large but also very small. They included duchies, counties, archbishoprics, bishoprics, free cities, and other entities, ultimately even kingdoms. It was the rulers of these units who held the real power in their areas. The emperor, who was the head of all the Germanies, had little actual influence. This applied even to the mightiest of them all, the Spanish Habsburg Charles V, who became emperor in 1519, two years after the beginning of the Lutheran Reformation.

Toward the end of the previous century, the Germanies were finally united into one nation. This was very much the work of Otto von Bismarck, the chancellor of Prussia, one of the largest of Germany's territorial states. In 1871, after Prussia had defeated France, all the German states except Austria came together into one empire, the so-called Second Reich. Prussia's king, Wilhelm, became the first emperor, and Prussia's capital, Berlin, became the imperial capital. These changes did not strongly affect the Protestant churches. The territorial princes stayed on when Germany was united, and their relationship with the Protestant churches in their area remained much as it had been before unification.

During the half-century of the Second Reich (1871-1918) there were twenty eight separate church federations in Germany, each more or less confined to its own territorial state. Some of these territorial churches and federations were Lutheran, some Reformed, and some (e.g., in Prussia), were united (Lutheran and Reformed). Each tended to have its own customs, liturgy, and church government, but all were linked to the territorial governments as before 1871.

German Protestants joined in the general disapproval of the Weimar Republic. They were nationalistic practically to a man, and the defeat in World War I was traumatic for them. So were the collapse of imperial power, the fall of the princely houses, and the establishment of a democratic republic. What made the new government particularly unpalatable and threatening for the Protestants was that it was composed of socialists and the Roman Catholic Centre Party. To many German Protestants this was scandalous: the people had rejected the emperor and the princes and brought in a left-of-centre government in which the Roman Catholics were represented, and the Protestants were not. In rejecting the old system, the people had also turned their back on the Protestant church which had been so closely allied to the government.

The rise of Hitler
In January 1933 Hitler became chancellor of Germany. In March of that year he addressed the churches as follows:

The national Government sees in the two Christian Confessions (Protestant and Roman Catholic) the most important factors for the preservation of our nationality. It will respect the agreements that have been drawn up between them and the provincial states.

. . . The national Government will provide and guarantee to the Christian Confessions the influence due them in the schools and education. It is concerned for genuine harmony between Church and State.

. . . The rights of the churches will not be curtailed; their position in relation to the State will not be changed.

Hitler dealt first with the Roman Catholics. After discussions with the archbishops, who conferred with the pope, a concordat or agreement was signed in June 1933. The concordat assured the church (on paper) of its privileges and was intended to guarantee either its neutrality or its support for the Nazi regime. The Roman Catholic Centre Party was disbanded.

Hitler and the Protestants
When Hitler turned his attention to the Protestants, he faced a different situation. How does one deal with at least twenty-eight different church federations? The national assembly of these churches had no real authority, and the Protestants had neither archbishop nor pope. Hitler therefore decided to create such a figure. He suggested that the Protestant churches elect or appoint a national bishop who would sit in the religious affairs department (the Ministry of Cults) of the national government.

The Fuehrer was popular. He was giving work to the millions of unemployed. The country was picking up rapidly. Nationalism was growing. Leftists were being suppressed, Surely the Lord was with such a man as Adolf Hitler! Provincial churches united and synod after synod voiced its approval of a national church under one bishop. Few, very few people realized that all was not well. Fewer still issued warnings. In 1932, that is, before Hitler became chancellor, a number of these groups had united in what came to be known as the movement of the "German Christians" (Deutsche Christen).

Needless to say, Marxism, socialism, pacifism, as well as Jews and blacks and other non-Aryans, were to be rejected. Church confessions were declared outdated, and race and people, blood and soil, became the standards. Hitler stood next to Christ as the leader of all Germany, the manifestation of the divine in history. Hitler as Fuehrer was infallible, and revealed God's will to men better than any Bible or confession, History had given Germany its messiah.

In April 1933 Hitler appointed his friend Ludwig Mueller, a member of the "German Christians," as his advisor in church affairs. Having moderated his movement's platform to some extent, Mueller offered himself as candidate for the position of national bishop. The churches, at a national meeting held in May, put forth their own candidate, however, a respected conservative. Mueller was defeated. In revenge, the "German Christians" prevailed upon the government to dismiss various conservatives from church-governing bodies and to replace them with "German Christians." After these purges, and with the endorsement of Hitler himself, Mueller was now easily elected bishop.

It was these developments in the summer and early fall of 1933 that at last began to act as eye-openers for an increasing number of German Protestants.

Resistance: The Pastors' Emergency League
Opposition by Protestants does not date from the events of the calamitous November and December months. Protests had been heard earlier. Some German churches had drafted statements against the heresies of the "German Christians" already before their takeover of the church, and others did so afterwards. Karl Barth, the well-known Swiss theologian who was a professor of theology at Bonn, also criticized the "German Christian" movement, especially in his writings of the summer of 1933. He completely rejected their programme and refused to allow them church membership.

Between March and May 1934, many confessing churches were established in the northern German provinces. In the South, most churches had remained intact under conservative leadership. These southern churches viewed the Pastors' Emergency League with suspicion, and they were not happy with the new confessing churches either, feeling that these were too radical in departing from the established provincial churches. This animosity between North and South continued throughout the war. The northern confessing churches did not receive much support from their brethren in the South.

Barmen provided a common front for the churches, especially for the confessing churches in the North. The paganism of the "German Christians" was attacked and the gospel professed. The Nazi regime also realized the importance of Barmen: the publication of the declaration led to attacks by the secret police which confiscated the text throughout the country and threatened concentration camp sentences for those who possessed a copy.

Persecution
After 1934, and especially after the outbreak of war in 1939, persecution of Christians became widespread. Mass arrests took place; in 1935, for example, a declaration denouncing the "German Faith" movement of the "German Christians" resulted in the arrest of 700 ministers. Leading churchmen, both Protestant and Roman Catholic, languished in concentration camps. Karl Barth was forced to return to Switzerland. Confessing church presses were closed. So was Bonhoeffer's seminary. He himself would be imprisoned in 1943 and executed in 1945. Niemoeller also was imprisoned. Outspoken pastors and church members suffered a similar fate or were drafted into the army as quickly as possible. During the war the pastorate of the confessing churches was spread dangerously thin. The letters and stories of imprisoned Christians provide a moving tribute to the few but dedicated church members who withstood not only false doctrine, but also a diabolical regime.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 10:06:31 PM »


Verbreitung der Konfessionen im deutschen Reich
(Spreading of the denominations in the German Reich)
Religious communities in Germany
The religious situation in the German Empire about 1895. Red and pink areas are predominantly Protestant, blue areas predominantly Catholic.
Christianity is the major religion, with the Protestant Evangelical Church in Germany (particularly in the north and east) comprising 30.8 % of the population and Roman Catholics (particularly in the south and west) 31.4 %.

"Protestant Dresden"

The WWII Dresden Holocaust -
'A Single Column Of Flame'


"You guys burnt the place down, turned it into a single column of flame. More people died there in the firestorm, in that one big flame, than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined." --Kurt Vonnegut, Jr 


February 13/14 1945: Holocaust over Dresden, known as the Florence of the North. Dresden was a hospital city for wounded soldiers. Not one military unit, not one anti-aircraft battery was deployed in the city. Together with the 600.000 refugees from Breslau, Dresden was filled with nearly 1.2 million people. Churchill had asked for "suggestions how to blaze 600.000 refugees". He wasn't interested how to target military installations 60 miles outside of Dresden. More than 700.000 phosphorus bombs were dropped on 1.2 million people. One bomb for every 2 people. The temperature in the centre of the city reached 1600 o centigrade. More than 260.000 bodies and residues of bodies were counted. But those who perished in the centre of the city can't be traced. Approximately 500.000 children, women, the elderly, wounded soldiers and the animals of the zoo were slaughtered in one night.

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2008, 09:58:47 AM »

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? EVERYONE WITH A THINKING BRAIN KNOWS THE NAZIS WERE JUST A DRILL FOR THE N.W.O.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 10:58:29 AM »

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? EVERYONE WITH A THINKING BRAIN KNOWS THE NAZIS WERE JUST A DRILL FOR THE N.W.O.

There are too many people without a thinking brain though, and information caches like this are damn useful for plenty of reasons. Prudence, posterity, efficiency...
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 11:02:43 AM »

enjoyed the history lesson
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 01:54:29 PM »

Thank you,jesqueal, I was just wondering why drag up the "ancient" history of the 3rd reich when our battle is against the current(4th?) reich of G.W.B and company!
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 04:15:42 AM »

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? EVERYONE WITH A THINKING BRAIN KNOWS THE NAZIS WERE JUST A DRILL FOR THE N.W.O.

Anyone with a "thinking brain" knows the same ones running things then still run things. That is the point of this thread.


A) The Catholic Church hierarchy - especially Eugenio Pacelli, before and after he became Pope Pius XII - aided the Nazis. Indeed, Pacelli and the Church played a central role in making Hitler the dictator of Germany.

B) The Catholic Church was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, especially in the Baltic region and in the Balkans, where the Church helped run the Nazi puppet State of Croatia. After the war, the Vatican sheltered Croatian Nazi war criminals.

C) Although at Yad Vashem, Pope John Paul II described the Nazis as having "a Godless ideology," this is not how the Nazis presented themselves or how the Catholic Church described the Nazis when they were in power.


The Social Democrats fiercely opposed the Enabling act. Hitler needed a 2/3 majority, so the balance lay with Zentrum, the Catholic Center Party. Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, addressed the Reichstag. Far from attacking the Enabling act, or disputing Hitler's claim that Nazism was based on Christianity, Kaas called for a 'yes' vote. The Zentrum faction did vote 'yes,' and the act became law. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, a liberal Catholic and student of Vatican history.
http://www.tenc.net/vatican/cpix.htm
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2008, 12:27:20 AM »

Anyone with a "thinking brain" knows the same ones running things then still run things. That is the point of this thread.


A) The Catholic Church hierarchy - especially Eugenio Pacelli, before and after he became Pope Pius XII - aided the Nazis. Indeed, Pacelli and the Church played a central role in making Hitler the dictator of Germany.

B) The Catholic Church was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, especially in the Baltic region and in the Balkans, where the Church helped run the Nazi puppet State of Croatia. After the war, the Vatican sheltered Croatian Nazi war criminals.

C) Although at Yad Vashem, Pope John Paul II described the Nazis as having "a Godless ideology," this is not how the Nazis presented themselves or how the Catholic Church described the Nazis when they were in power.


The Social Democrats fiercely opposed the Enabling act. Hitler needed a 2/3 majority, so the balance lay with Zentrum, the Catholic Center Party. Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, addressed the Reichstag. Far from attacking the Enabling act, or disputing Hitler's claim that Nazism was based on Christianity, Kaas called for a 'yes' vote. The Zentrum faction did vote 'yes,' and the act became law. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, a liberal Catholic and student of Vatican history.
http://www.tenc.net/vatican/cpix.htm

The Vatican follows the orders of the Zionist Agenda (protocols) JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE GOVERNMENTS ARE!
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2008, 07:54:12 AM »

The Vatican follows the orders of the Zionist Agenda (protocols) JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE GOVERNMENTS ARE!
I disagree
I guess I'm one of what Alex calls the "Catholics-run-it-all crowd"
Things make more sense from a catholics-run-it-all perspective
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2011, 12:29:29 PM »

DocumentaryHeaven: WWII in HD EP1/10
http://documentaryheaven.com/wwii-in-hd-ep1/

More WWII footage and propaganda.

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