John McCain NOT a natural-born U.S. Citizen - INELIGIBLE to run for President

[A K]

If two US citizens are on vacation in Paris, and that child is born there, that child is a natural born US citizen.  Thousand of Americans have been born on military bases and because their parents are US citizens, so are they.

In any event, that doesn't even matter, because ALL of Panama was at that time a US territory.  Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was a US territory, and everyone accepted when he ran in 64 that he was eligible to be President.  And Obama has gone on record as saying that in the event there is a challenge, he would support legislation to make it even more clear that McCain can be President.

So, sorry, this is a non-issue.  It will not prevent McCain from having a third Bush term.  Only we the people can do that.

[Dig]

If two US citizens are on vacation in Paris, and that child is born there, that child is a natural born US citizen.  Thousand of Americans have been born on military bases and because their parents are US citizens, so are they.

In any event, that doesn't even matter, because ALL of Panama was at that time a US territory.  Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was a US territory, and everyone accepted when he ran in 64 that he was eligible to be President.  And Obama has gone on record as saying that in the event there is a challenge, he would support legislation to make it even more clear that McCain can be President.

So, sorry, this is a non-issue.  It will not prevent McCain from having a third Bush term.  Only we the people can do that.

so sorry but again you are absolutely wrong.  It sounds really nice but lacks any evidence, research, legal merit, consideration for the constitution of the USA, and generally continues the same moronic posts of people who have not read the entire thread.  Every person born outside of a US State (save for DC) is not eligible to be president (yes this includes all those born on military bases, embassies, and oil rigs).

Natural born has nothing to do with blood, it is of land.

A mexican mother that walks to USA and has her baby in a US hospital has given birth to a natural born american citizen.  please explain how this follows your absurd logic.

You can say this is a non issue until you are blue in the face, it does not make it so and has no legal merit.

People may ask, "well why does the RNC run a candidate who is constitutionally ineligible to be president?"  There are two reasons:

1) He is planned to lose

2) RNC, DNC, and David Rockefeller (the dictator of this country) do not give a flying shit about the constitution of the USA.

If you doubt #2, please read the patriot act.  It has over 100 violations of the US constitution yet the RNC, DNC, and David Rockefeller still act like it is legal.

And Obama has gone on record as saying that in the event there is a challenge, he would support legislation to make it even more clear that McCain can be President.

I do not care if the Obama puppet says that he will allow the McCain puppet to run illegally.  300 million American Citizens must agree under a constitutional convention before it can happen.  What kind of bullshit idiotic logic is this.  It just proves that they are working together in this dramatic play where we are the victims.

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was a US territory, and everyone accepted when he ran in 64 that he was eligible to be President. 

It was in dispute at the time and has never been rectified.  It was in fact a territory and has at least a minimum of legal argument however slim.

ALL of Panama was at that time a US territory. 

That is the biggest load of nonsense ever posted.

Panama was Columbia until 1903 where they staged a fake independence to become "Panama" so that a US banker and a french idealist could build the inferior Panama Canal.  The country however was still in dispute until 1977 when the Torrijos/Carter peace accord was signed.

In addition Coco Solo (where McCain was born) was leased property and never a US territory whatsoever.

[Dig]

Please explain how prior to the Torrijos/Carter treaties, the following constituted a "US State" or even a "US Territory"

Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay-Bunau_Varilla_Treaty
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty was signed on November 18, 1903 (two weeks after Panama's independence from Colombia). Phillipe Bunau-Varilla went to Washington, D.C. and New York City to negotiate the terms with several U.S. officials, most prominently, Secretary of State John Hay. The two men negotiated the terms of sale for the building of a Panama Canal and for a Panama Canal Zone surrounding the canal. No Panamanians signed the treaty although Bunau Varilla was present as the Panamanian minister — despite French citizenship.

Bunau-Varilla was a Frenchman originally involved in the building of the Panama Canal under the same man that built the Suez Canal, Ferdinand de Lesseps. After the collapse of the de Lesseps efforts to build the Panama Canal, Bunau-Varilla became an important shareholder of the Compagnie Nouvelle du Canal de Panama, which still had the concession, as well as certain valuable assets, for the building of a canal in Panama. As part of the Hay-Bunau-Varilla negotiations, the U.S. bought the shares and assets of the Compagnie Nouvelle du Canal de Panama for US$40 million.

The Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty is also called The Treaty No Panamanian Signed, though Panama later agreed to the terms including: the United States was to receive rights to a canal zone which was to extend ten miles on either side of the canal route in perpetuity; Panama was to receive a payment from US up to $10 million and an annual rental payments of $250,000.

This treaty was a source of conflict between Panama and the United States since its creation, that reached its peak on the January 9, 1964 riots over sovereignty of the Panama Canal Zone. The riot started after a Panamanian flag was torn during conflict between Panamanian students and Canal Zone Police officers, over the right of the Panamanian flag to be flown alongside the U.S. flag. U.S. Army units became involved in suppressing the violence after the Canal Zone Police were overwhelmed. After three days of fighting, about 22 Panamanians and four U.S. solders were killed. This day is known in Panama as Martyrs' Day.

The events of Martyrs' Day are considered to be a significant factor in the U.S. decision to negotiate the 1977 Torrijos-Carter Treaties, which finally abolished the Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty and allowed the gradual transfer of control of the Canal Zone to Panama and the handover of the full control of the Panama Canal on December 31, 1999.
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The Panamanian Independence of 1903 was a fraud.

The Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty was a fraud.

And even if you believe those frauds, it was an obvious lease agreement which therefore does not constitute a "territory."

[Abunai]

interesting...

[Dig]

interesting...

sorry to be a complete dick about this, but I have spent hours, days, weeks looking into this.  At first I thought it must be absurd, but the more I looked, the more obvious it became.

The self proclaimed rulers of this country do not care about the constitution as they stage their BS theatrical plays.  They sit back and laugh at us (the sheep) as we observe the "sound and fury." We are filled with a full spectrum of emotions as if these staged "elections" signified something other then our eventual generational enslavement.

[Abunai]

i understand

[A K]

First of all I am a lawyer.

Second you are right about one thing, all of Panama was not a US Territory, though it was essentially a US protecterate.  But only the Panama Canal Zone was a US territory.  But as a tarritory it has the same status as Arizona, and in 64, no one from the Democratic Party made the argument that Goldwater couldn't serve as President because he was born in the Arizona territory.  From wiki:

John McCain's early life began in the tropics. He was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station[2] in Panama within the then-American-controlled Panama Canal Zone to Navy officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).

So McCain was born on a US military base, in a US territory, to two US citizens.  He is a natural born US citizen.  Is there some gray area and room for argument?  Maybe.  But how do you think the Supreme Court, which selected Bush as Prez, will rule on this issue?  i will make you a thousand dollar bet that if McCain wins the election he will be sworn in and serve as president.

[Dig]

First of all I am a lawyer.

Second you are right about one thing, all of Panama was not a US Territory, though it was essentially a US protecterate.  But only the Panama Canal Zone was a US territory.  But as a tarritory it has the same status as Arizona, and in 64, no one from the Democratic Party made the argument that Goldwater couldn't serve as President because he was born in the Arizona territory.  From wiki:

John McCain's early life began in the tropics. He was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station[2] in Panama within the then-American-controlled Panama Canal Zone to Navy officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).

So McCain was born on a US military base, in a US territory, to two US citizens.  He is a natural born US citizen.  Is there some gray area and room for argument?  Maybe.  But how do you think the Supreme Court, which selected Bush as Prez, will rule on this issue?  i will make you a thousand dollar bet that if McCain wins the election he will be sworn in and serve as president.

American controlled by a lease...

an annual rental payments of $250,000.

No part of Panama was ever a US territory, whereas in the case of Goldwater it was a US territory (land owned by the US).  Leased property is not owned property.

In addition, please allow me to repeat for the 5th time the State Department Official Document concerning Military Bases and Natural Born:

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

So McCain was born in a non-US Territory on a contested base, in a fraudulent seceded piece of land that rented property to the US.  His parents have absolutely no bearing on being natural born.  And you might want to brush up on your law skills as they lack logical reasoning, case studies, references, sources, and precedents. I doubt I would hire you to get out of a parking ticket.


As far as the Supreme Court, they previously ruled that a black man only had 5/8th (or some other fraction) the rights of a white man.  Their rulings also have no bearing on the constitution.

The situation is not that this is a non issue, it is that the elite in this country openly disobeye the constitution (although they took an oath to defend it).

This is the point I am making, and it is an issue that should enrage us.

without the constitution, we have no country.

[Dig]

Adding insult to injury:

Bipartisan team says McCain natural born
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/12/politics/horserace/entry3929112.shtml
By Liz Sidoti
Associated Press Writer / March 27, 2008

DENVER—A pair of lawyers -- one Republican, one Democrat -- have concluded that John McCain's 1936 birth outside the continental United States does not disqualify him to be president.

The likely Republican nominee was born on a U.S. naval base in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone.

A federal judge in California has been asked to determine whether McCain meets the legal test to hold the nation's highest office. Although McCain has called questions about his eligibility nonsense, his campaign, as it did in his first White House run in 2000, sought a review from legal experts to put the issue to rest.

"Based on the original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers' intentions, and subsequent legal and historical precedent, Senator McCain's birth to parents who were U.S. citizens, serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a 'natural born citizen' within the meaning of the Constitution," the review found.

The issue was examined by former Solicitor General Ted Olson, a Republican backing McCain, and Harvard Law Professor Laurence H. Tribe, a Democrat backing Barack Obama.

The Constitution requires that only "natural born" citizens hold the presidency. But the Founding Fathers did not elaborate on the term, and the meaning of the phrase has long been debated.

A two-page complaint filed March 6 in U.S. District Court in Riverside, Calif., argued that a judge should step in because the constitutional language was not precise, opening questions about McCain's standing. It was filed by Riverside lawyer Andrew Aames, who says he's a registered Republican but previously was a Democrat.

The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory when McCain was born on Aug. 29, 1936. His father was stationed there in the Navy, and his mother was an American citizen.

Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, a prominent Obama backer, has introduced legislation that would define a "natural born citizen" as anyone born to any U.S. citizen while serving in the active or reserve components of the U.S. armed forces. Obama is a co-sponsor of the bill.

So Ted Olson who is a verified top Al Qaeda operative and an Obama backer are supposed to tell 300 million American Citizens that the constitution is no longer valid.

How much more obvious can this get.

Of course Obama wants to go up against McCain and not someone like Ron Paul.  It also shows his disrespect for the constitution.

[A K]

The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory when McCain was born on Aug. 29, 1936.

OK?

You don't understand the provision about military bases and embassies.  if a Mexican female citizen steps on a US base or embassy and has a kid, the kid is not an American citizen.  By contrast, the majority of legal opinion on the issue states that if a child is born to two US citizens overseas, let us say even at a hospital off base, the child is still a US citizen.

Bottom line is the Canal Zone was considered a US territory when McCain was born there.

As for being a bad lawyer, I am admitted to the Supreme Court and got a murder conviction (coerced confession) reveresed by a federal habeas, got a life sentence drug case over turned as well.  Have won many jury trials and lost some too. 

[Dig]

The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory when McCain was born on Aug. 29, 1936.

OK?

You don't understand the provision about military bases and embassies.  if a Mexican female citizen steps on a US base or embassy and has a kid, the kid is not an American citizen.  By contrast, the majority of legal opinion on the issue states that if a child is born to two US citizens overseas, let us say even at a hospital off base, the child is still a US citizen.

Bottom line is the Canal Zone was considered a US territory when McCain was born there.

As for being a bad lawyer, I am admitted to the Supreme Court and got a murder conviction (coerced confession) reveresed by a federal habeas, got a life sentence drug case over turned as well.  Have won many jury trials and lost some too. 

In 1936, the area of Coco Solo was rented property from a fraudulent tready under a fraudulent sovereignty.  Even if you say the tready was fine and the sovereignty was too, it was leased property ($250,000 a year).  In addition, although you think that the State department's ruling on naturalization does not apply (reposted below), you offer no logic, evidence, or facts to support it.  In addition no branch of gov can change the constitution without a full constitutional convention...

Redux: Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

Furthermore it was absolutely established that no one born outside a state in the United States could be eligible for the land's highest office. 

These are the facts as they exist.

Born of parents leading back to the Mayflower has no constitutional bearing on "land birth" or a "natural born citizen."

As far as you being a good lawyer, who knows and it hardly matters as the constitution is not a priority either in law school or among lawyers.  I am using limited empirical evidence of Mister John Yoo being a constitutional lawyer at Harvard University.  He obviously has no clue of what the constitution is.  It seems as if his disease is contagious as many also do not realize the simple fact that if you are not born in a state in the US, then you cannot be president of the US.

you can be all sorts of other stuff (senator, congressman, governor, chairman of the fed, chairman of the CFR, etc.) but not Pres under the US constitution.  I realize it may take a bit of courage to admit you may actually be wrong on this.  I invite you to it without the excuse of "well they would never let him run then" stuff.  Just look at the facts without the longing desire to find an answer that satisfies your safety matrix and realize that most laws post 1913 are clearly unconstitutional.  this happens to be one of those situations.  it is not the end of the world, but as I said earlier , it further demonstrates how these elitest pigs do not give a shit about the constitution.

[Loungin]

Glad to see that you are sticking to your guns on this topic Sane.  There has been alot of blowback on this topic.  Thank you for taking this under your wing and researching it!  It is clear by now that we can not trust the ones in office to do their homework honestly.

[Dig]

Glad to see that you are sticking to your guns on this topic Sane.  There has been alot of blowback on this topic.  Thank you for taking this under your wing and researching it!  It is clear by now that we can not trust the ones in office to do their homework honestly.

Having Ted Olson decide on this is nearly equivalent to having Kissinger represent the 9/11 widows.

[Ponce]

Ok, let me ask this...........Obama was born in Hawaii, right? .......the question is, was Hawaii a state in the year that he was born???

[yanaar]

Ok, let me ask this...........Obama was born in Hawaii, right? .......the question is, was Hawaii a state in the year that he was born???

Hawaii was admitted to the Union on August 21, 1959, making it the 50th state.  O'bama was born in 1961.

[Optimus]

This is absolutely unbelievable!

After mountains of evidence being presented and repeated probably dozens of times, some are still ignoring the facts and clinging to the notion that anyone born overseas to US parents are natural-born US citizens. True, children born to US parents abroad are US citizens, but their citizenship is determined under the naturalization and immigration laws, therefore, they are naturalized at birth. If they were truly natural-born, there would be no need for laws defining their citizenship in the naturalization and immigration laws. But since their defined citizenship fall within these laws, then their citizenship is naturalized rather than natural-born. They enjoy the same rights and liberties as do natural-born citizens, with the exception of running for president. McCain has no legal leg to stand on. He cannot run for president and should be disqualified since he is breaking the supreme law of the land.

The spirit of the Constitution is that a natural-born US citizen is one that is born within the US and within one of the 50 states. Read the Constitution carefully and you will see that natural-born is the 'right of soil' and not 'right of blood'.

[Japanese_American]

Where was Obama born?

Hawaii, but if he was born before 1954, Hawaii was only a territory, so it's: Ron Paul or Hillary Alex may have been right

[Japanese_American]

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMFG - this is insane, please post more info about this.

first time I heard of it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html

[yanaar]

Hawaii, but if he was born before 1954, Hawaii was only a territory, so it's: Ron Paul or Hillary Alex may have been right

O'bama was born in Honolulu, on Aug 4, 1961.  Hawaii was admitted as a State on Aug 21, 1959.  Hawaii became a state two years before O'bama was born.   He's a citizen of the U.S. of A.  

[Amd304912]

O'bama was born in Honolulu, on Aug 4, 1961.  Hawaii was admitted as a State on Aug 21, 1959.  Hawaii became a state two years before O'bama was born.   He's a citizen of the U.S. of A.  

lying about his dad but true..

screw mccain either way.

[chris jones]

J McCAin, is a sociopahtic sadistical, mentaly disturbed man. He is a traitor, a liar, a bag of ego, and a Bush click.NWO.

The fact he was born in another country will have no effect on his status, rest assured of that. If this were of any consequence, the Bushmaser would have stepped in and made bill of approval.

[Brocke]

Two images requested by Sane. As always it was my pleasure to assist!

[Dig]

OK, here it is...

2 perfectly acceptable representations of what is in store over the next 8 years with a dementia driven, hopped up recluse from the insane asylum.

He is a lovely natural born Panamanian and he should be free to run for Pres of that country.

As far as the US, he ain't fricking qualified!

How many ways do we have to say it and hear it before it truly sinks in?

This whole thing is absurd and only shows how both political parties are committing fraud against all US citizens.  These two CFR puppet parties have stolen our rights to a Republic with Democratically elected public servants.

Yes...

A REPUBLIC...

WITH DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED...

PUBLIC F-ING SERVANTS!

They are to bow down to us, not us to them.

How this crap got so twisted is an act of apocalyptic tyranny.

[srvrsyde]

http://www.theamericanvoice.com/

by Francis Steffan
AmericanVoiceRadio.net 

John McCain was born August 29, 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone, to two U.S. citizens. It's a common misunderstanding that the zone was a U.S. territory - in fact, the U.S. had lease rights, but not territorial rights. 

The US Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."   

"Natural Born Citizen" - "is where ONLY the natural act of one being born in a place determines the status of ones citizenship with no additional stipulations necessary to influence that status"

No law or court ruling has ever established the precise definition of a natural born citizen. It is generally agreed that a natural born citizen of the United States is any person born in one of the 50 states or the District of Columbia.............................

I've never read anything from this source but I thought it was quite interesting. 

if the child in question is born out of country to american parents then they're considered american as well.

[Ford]

if the child in question is born out of country to american parents then they're considered american as well.

THe constitution states just being American is not enough criteria to be president, you must be a "natural born" citizen as well.

[Japanese_American]

Where was Obama born?

Hawai'i

[Japanese_American]

Hillary must be the offspring of Lenin or Stalin

Oh, lets not insult Lenin or Stalin

[zammmo]

If so let's make sure that it goes in our favor because we would'nt want Arnold Schwarzenegger to be his VP and become president.

Please excuse me I'm just an ignorant Brit but since when was A.S born the U.S.

[Japanese_American]

Please excuse me I'm just an ignorant Brit but since when was A.S born the U.S.

Easy, imagine the Neo-CONvicts and the their counterparts the DLC create a false-flag issue, say we need to ratify the Constitution at a Constitution Convention (Con-con) and allow nonnative American citizen to become citizens. Impossible you say? Well, they created the federal reserve.

[Dig]

THe constitution states just being American is not enough criteria to be president, you must be a "natural born" citizen as well.

correctamundo

[Japanese_American]

correctamundo

The same is said about Barack Obama. But I have my doubts about that, because:

Ron Paul
Dennis Kucinich

Would have exposed Obama and D.Q. Obama. Hell, the same would have happened to McCain, so, maybe they both are qualified.

[Dig]

The same is said about Barack Obama. But I have my doubts about that, because:

Ron Paul
Dennis Kucinich

Would have exposed Obama and D.Q. Obama. Hell, the same would have happened to McCain, so, maybe they both are qualified.

Yes the same is "said" about Barack and was "said" about Hillary, but the issue on McCain is proven rather than just "said".

The case against Obama who was born in Hawaii: (appears to be Clintonian nonsense when Rothschild/Rockefeller sponsored Obama would have been vetted much earlier if this was truly an issue)

"Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven't heeded the party's call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention, which will nominate Mr. Obama as the party's presidential candidate. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia last week, also names the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and says Mr. Obama´s mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there. It also claims that later in life, Mr. Obama declared himself a citizen of Indonesia."

The case against McCain who was born in Panama: (These facts are not Clintonion or anything else. They were discovered by a small group of Patriots as far as I can tell, and they are even admitted by McCain himself.  Rothschild/Rockefeller expects McCain to take a fall, but because so much crap is bubbling up concerning the communist agenda of Obama, McCain may even be positioned to deal with the Americans through continued national socialism, i.e. fascism.  So even though he has been proven ineligible, Rothschild/Rockefeller may need him if too much truth about the federal reserve, NWO, global warming nonsense, and Obama's communist agenda comes to light.)

He was born in Panama which was not a State in the USA. 

He is not a natural born citizen by his own admission to be born in Panama.

He is ineligible to be president of the US according to the Constitution of the US.

These facts are incontovertible and the only one saying different is Al-Qaeda member and 9/11 conspirator Ted Olson.

[Japanese_American]

Yes the same is "said" about Barack and was "said" about Hillary, but the issue on McCain is proven rather than just "said".

The case against Obama who was born in Hawaii: (appears to be Clintonian nonsense when Rothschild/Rockefeller sponsored Obama would have been vetted much earlier if this was truly an issue)

"Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven't heeded the party's call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention, which will nominate Mr. Obama as the party's presidential candidate. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia last week, also names the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and says Mr. Obama´s mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there. It also claims that later in life, Mr. Obama declared himself a citizen of Indonesia."

The case against McCain who was born in Panama: (These facts are not Clintonion or anything else. They were discovered by a small group of Patriots as far as I can tell, and they are even admitted by McCain himself.  Rothschild/Rockefeller expects McCain to take a fall, but because so much crap is bubbling up concerning the communist agenda of Obama, McCain may even be positioned to deal with the Americans through continued national socialism, i.e. fascism.  So even though he has been proven ineligible, Rothschild/Rockefeller may need him if too much truth about the federal reserve, NWO, global warming nonsense, and Obama's communist agenda comes to light.)

He was born in Panama which was not a State in the USA. 

He is not a natural born citizen by his own admission to be born in Panama.

He is ineligible to be president of the US according to the Constitution of the US.

These facts are incontovertible and the only one saying different is Al-Qaeda member and 9/11 conspirator Ted Olson.

Regardless who wins, the U.S. is screwed.

[Xepla]

THEN WHY THE f**k IS HE RUNNING FOR OFFICE?!!?!

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT HE IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE.

[Japanese_American]

THEN WHY THE f**k IS HE RUNNING FOR OFFICE?!!?!

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT HE IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE.

Because there are more Sheeple than truthers like you and us

[Infowarrior-Vik]

Who cares about the voting? They`ll choose the president themselves

[Japanese_American]

Actually? McCain picked the wrong Palin, click here

[eagle98]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79519
ELECTION 2008
Supremes asked to halt Tuesday's vote
Constitutional crisis feared over Obama's 'qualifications'
"This is a question of who has standing to stand up for our Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog. "If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to ask whether or not the likely next president of the United States – the most powerful man in the entire world – is eligible to be in that office in the first place, then who does?"

Democratic attorney Philip Berg had filed a lawsuit alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because of possible birth in Kenya, but as WND reported, a federal judge dismissed the complaint claiming Berg lacks standing to bring the action.

In a statement today, Berg said he is applying to Justice David Souter for an "Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008."

[Japanese_American]

I have a question, wouldn't both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich say something?

[egypt]

http://www.theamericanvoice.com/

by Francis Steffan
AmericanVoiceRadio.net 

...No law or court ruling has ever established the precise definition of a natural born citizen. It is generally agreed that a natural born citizen of the United States is any person born in one of the 50 states or the District of Columbia.............................

I've never read anything from this source but I thought it was quite interesting. 

I believe there was no ruling because it was accepted for what it was ---> Natural Born Citizen is not just made up ideology by the Founding Fathers.  It has specific meaning according to philosophy and ideology of the day (that still stands currently) with publications on it.

There are those, who along with saying The Constitution is an archaic document, that would spread the notion that "natural born citizen" is a meaningless, made-up term...

Being born in Panama (even though to two American Citizens) creates a dual citizenship of Panama/USA for John McCain.  One holding dual citizenship is not a natural born citizen, by definition.  Natural born citizens are a subgroup of American Citizens.

Love, e