Tasers - The New Weapon of Choice for the NWO

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Tasers - The New Weapon of Choice for the NWO
« on: January 31, 2008, 02:59:25 PM »
Tasers have been proven to cause an irregular heart rate and eventual death minutes after the Taser is applied. This goes against Police and Taser International's argument that the taser is benign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrYkgH5G8Bg

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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 03:07:09 PM »
Once in a blue moon CBC partially redeems itself... good find!

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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 03:15:31 PM »
"The company is still not concerned"

"Dismisses the study..."

Yeah...right.

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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 03:16:42 PM »
TASERS SHOULD BE FORBIDEN WORLD WIDE

AND FACTORIES SHOULD ALL BE CLOSED

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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 03:21:27 PM »
TASERS SHOULD BE FORBIDEN WORLD WIDE

AND FACTORIES SHOULD ALL BE CLOSED

And the police that tasered people to death that did not deserve it should all be charged with murder.
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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 03:24:09 PM »
AND GIVEN THE DEATH SENTENCE

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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 04:59:58 PM »
Dugg it.
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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008, 02:53:11 AM »
Once in a blue moon CBC partially redeems itself... good find!

I've seen several things on the web fairly recently that would seem to indicate that the Canadian media is doing a decent job in presenting a case against the use of these torture devices. I've been surprised and impressed a bit by that. You go dudleys!!! lol
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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 10:45:27 AM »
Our local leftist rag, NOW magazine, actually did a good job in covering the issue... the cops are rolling out the red carpet to TASER Inc., and, allegedly, welcoming input from the public. I've got to book off so I can go to the next meeting. I wouldn't be surprised if they're using Delphi technique, but we'll see.

http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=161470
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Re: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!! Tasers Can Cause Death!
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2008, 12:32:14 AM »


  NEXT TIME THEY SHOULD USE PIGS (COPS) IN THEIR STUDY AND MAKE SURE THEY RIP THEIR CHESTS OPEN TO SEE IF HUMANS ARE EFFECTED THE SAME WAY AS REAL PIGS.  WHERE ARE THE ANIMAL RIGHTS PROTESTERS?  THE COMPANY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SAID THE STUDY WAS FLAWED BECAUSE THEY RIPPED OPEN THE PIG'S CHESTS!  BY THE WAY, I THINK TASERS ARE DANGEROUS AND WE SHOULD ALL HAVE ONE!!
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FOX Sportscaster Josh Booty Tasered and cracked his head after tazed fall
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 07:18:55 PM »
Laugh or Cry? 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/13/fox-sportscaster-booty-ta_n_86551.html

"O.C. Sheriff's spokesperson Jim Amormino tell TMZ, "Booty was belligerent and uncooperative." Amormino says his deputies used a taser -- "less than lethal force" -- to contain him".

I like how they had to point out ... "less than lethal force" as if they should get a medal for not killing the guy. 

"After being tased, Josh fell to the ground, hitting his head on the floor and cracking it open. He was taken to a hospital where he was stitched up".

Luckily, in this case, the dude didn't DIE from hitting his head (we all know how that can happen after the Bhutto incident)  ::)


Since this was originally posted on a gossip site, if it turns out to be bogus... sorry...

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Re: FOX Sportscaster Josh Booty Tasered and cracked his head after tazed fall
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 07:30:40 PM »
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EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 09:21:47 PM »
Toronto Police are ordering 3000 tasers. This has made Taser's stock price jump very high. I ask every Canadian who reads this to call the Toronto Police Department and tell them that this is not acceptable and DEMAND they rescind this order immediately. We've already had one recent death, and instead of ordering a proper investigation, they order 3000 tasers.

http://money.canoe.ca/News/Other/2008/01/25/4793824-ap.html

http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2008/02/police-and-tasers

http://excited-delirium.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-cozy-taser-and-toronto-police-lovey.html

http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/297471

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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 09:45:45 PM »

Thanks for putting this at the top of the page, Sane.  I am really freaked out by this.  It's almost as if they WANT to kill people.

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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2008, 09:51:19 PM »
some places in Canada are getting taser shotguns!
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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2008, 10:03:38 PM »
Good God, man!  You can't be serious.

EDIT:  Wow... you ARE serious.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/15/tasers-electrifying-new-xrep-shotgun-fired-projectile/

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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2008, 10:14:10 PM »
Wow, this is disturbing. Tasers are definitely the weapon of choice by the elite...for now. 
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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 01:05:04 AM »
Wow, this is disturbing. Tasers are definitely the weapon of choice by the elite...for now. 

I think its like Alex said....they want to habitualize police to shooting at unarmed civilians...like training them for when they will be firing real bullets.
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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 02:15:58 AM »
The person who authorized this is clearly a fascist who wants police state control in Canada. He should lose his job.

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Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 10:17:45 AM »
Now police are told they can use Taser guns on children
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=479341&in_page_id=1770
By JASON LEWIS  Last updated at 15:27pm on 2nd September 2007



Police have been given the go-ahead to use Taser stun guns against children.  The relaxing of restrictions on the use of the weapons comes despite warnings that they could trigger a heart attack in youngsters.  Until now, Tasers - which emit a 50,000-volt electric shock - have been used only by specialist officers as a "non lethal" alternative to firearms.  However, they can now be used against all potentially violent offenders even if they are unarmed.  It is the decision not to ban their use against minors that is likely to raise serious concerns.  Home Office Police Minister Tony McNulty said medical assessments had confirmed the risk of death or serious injury from Tasers was "low".  But he failed to mention Government advisers had also warned of a potential risk to children.

The Defence Scientific Advisory Council medical committee told the Home Office that not enough was known about the health risks of using the weapons against children.  Tasers work by firing metal barbs into the skin which then discharge an electrical charge which is designed to disable someone long enough to allow police to detain them safely.  The committee, which is made up of independent scientists and doctors, said that limited research suggested there was a risk children could suffer "a serious cardiac event".  It recommended that officers should be "particularly vigilant" for any Taser-induced adverse response and said guidance should be amended to "identify children and adults of small stature" as being at potentially greater risk from the cardiac effects of Tasers.  The Government scientists were also asked to test whether the weapons could cause a miscarriage if used on a pregnant woman.

While not saying whether police would be allowed to Taser an expectant mother, the Home Office said the DSAC committee had "specifically asked" for computer simulations to be carried out to analyse the effect on "a pregnant female".  Amnesty International claims Tasers have been responsible for 220 deaths in America since 2001. Many cities and police forces there have banned their use against minors.  Two years ago in Chicago a 14-year-old boy went into cardiac arrest after being shot with one. Medics had to use a defibrillator four times to resuscitate him.  Taser International, the American firm that makes the device, said tests on pigs suggested the weapons were safe.  The Association of Chief Police Officers, which issues guidance to forces on the use of weapons, said Tasers would be made "readily available" for "conflict management" at incidents of "violence and threats of violence of such severity that they will need force".  Non-firearms officers in ten forces will be trained to use the weapons. Every incident they are involved in will be assessed over a 12-month trial period.
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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2008, 10:21:43 AM »
Uhhh... that picture is a bit misleading :P

I don't think they'll be tasering infants... more like educated adolecents.

This is in the UK, not the US from what I can see.

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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 10:30:03 AM »
Uhhh... that picture is a bit misleading :P

I don't think they'll be tasering infants... more like educated adolecents.

This is in the UK, not the US from what I can see.

oh yeah that is a picture for next month's story [actually I could not find a simial one with an 8 year old, if someone can create it that would be cool]
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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 10:32:45 AM »
Actually wasn't there a news story where cops tasered a baby that wouldn't stop crying?

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2008, 10:36:09 AM »
While i don't think it's such a bad thing that they want to crack down on these thugs on street corners, since they can be a little intimidating, especially when they're mugging you and throwing bricks at cars... we know too well they will abuse these powers and it's the wrong approach.

Perhaps if they just banned all these chemicals in our lives which poison our minds, and stop criminalising proper parenting (a good slap never hurt anyone!) then we wouldn't have such out of control youths on the streets.

Add to it the closure of public facilities such as libraries, youth clubs, parks and the way society fails people in general.

Things are as bad as they are through poor governance, either accidental or deliberate. Whichever way you look at it it's a mess and now they want to use electric torture as a quick fix.

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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2008, 10:36:21 AM »
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Actually wasn't there a news story where cops tasered a baby that wouldn't stop crying?

The punishment for this cop should be the following:
-  Tasered by a weapon of increased voltage based on a ratio proportionate to the age difference of the officer to the baby.

Somewhere along the lines of the electric chair, but maybe for only a second or two.

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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2008, 04:51:46 PM »
New Wireless Taser ‘XREP’ a New Tool to Submit You & Obey?
http://www.need2know.eu/?p=542

need2know.eu — New Wireless Taser ‘XREP’ Another New World Order Torture Tool to make you Submit & Obey whatever they ask? Alarmed by recent incidents? Wait’ll you see what the company is planning for 2008 ? The Taser is going wireless. See the Videos ! Tip from John Kuhles

Alarmed by recent incidents? Wait’ll you see what the company is planning for 2008

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The Taser is going wireless.

Until now, the electric-shock gun consisted of two barbed darts attached to wires that shoot out and strike the victim, immobilizing the person with 50,000 volts of electricity, causing severe pain and intense muscle contraction.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Taser+abuse&num=100&so=4&start=0

But the wires could only extend a few metres. With the new “extended range electronic projectile,” or XREP, the Taser has been turned into a kind of self-contained shotgun shell and can be fired, wire-free, from a standard shotgun, which police typically have in their arsenal already.



http://www.digg.com/politics/911truth_IQ_Quiz_by_JohnKuhles

The first electrode hooks on to the target, the second electrode falls and makes contact elsewhere on the body, completing the circuit and activating the shock. It can blast someone as far as 30 metres away, and, unlike the current stun guns, whose shock lasts five seconds, the XREP lasts 20 seconds, enough time to “take the offender into custody without risking injury to officers.”

Taser International spokesperson Steve Tuttle says the XREP would be perfect in a standoff. “Here’s someone you just don’t want to get anywhere near,” he says.

The XREP is one of two major new applications the Scottsdale, Ariz., company is preparing to field test, a prospect that makes Taser’s critics anxious. They say more study is needed of the old products, let alone the new.

Tasers are sparking all sorts of questions and concerns these days.

Like death after Tasing. Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski died after the RCMP Tased him when he’d become agitated after spending 10 hours inside the secure area at the Vancouver airport.

Or questionable Tasing. University of Florida student Andrew Meyer was Tased even though a handful of officers had already piled on top of him after he refused to stop asking former presidential candidate John Kerry questions at the microphone. (He’s the one who uttered that now infamous plea that has spawned bumper stickers and T-shirts: “Don’t Tase me, bro!”)

Tasers are now used by more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies in 44 countries. There are more than 428,000 Tasers in the field, not to mention the tens of thousands of Tasers that have been sold to civilians.

And the innovations keep coming.

Besides the XREP, the company has developed a device meant to keep someone from approaching a certain area – a tactic called “area denial.” “What if you could drop everyone in a given area to the ground with the simple push of a button?” asks a dramatic promotional video for the “Shockwave.”

Taser has turned its weapon into a connected series of six darts arranged in an arc. The company says the device can be extended in a chain or stacked “like Lego,” depending on the needs of the user.

So an army platoon, for instance, could use it to prevent unwanted people from approaching their camp, and not have to risk getting close to their targets.

Amnesty International, which has raised concerns for years, says the Shockwave poses serious risks of inappropriate use. When you target an entire area, or a crowd, you can’t distinguish between the individuals you’re trying to restrain, says Hilary Homes, a security and human rights campaigner for Amnesty International Canada.

“It targets everybody to the same intensity or effect,” Homes says. “With materials like that, you worry about …arbitrary and indiscriminate use.”

Tuttle says the technology will be used for military applications, “not for a riot in Toronto.”

Amnesty says that between 2001 and Sept. 30, 2007, there were more than 290 deaths of individuals struck by police Tasers in North America, including 16 in Canada. It reports that only 25 of those electroshocked were armed, and none with firearms. It’s calling for a moratorium on their use by police until a full, independent inquiry is held.

Homes says the new shotgun-style Taser doesn’t pose any risks that aren’t already there with the older weapon, except that “this allows more things to be done from a greater distance.”

Mostly, it’s the concern over the expansion of this technology even as there is heated debate over the devices’ safety. “We’d prefer there weren’t new variations until a study of the central technology was done,” she says.

The safety concerns revolve around the growing number of deaths following Tasering and the increasing use of the term “excited delirium” by the company and other experts to explain the deaths, while denying the weapon any culpability.

Excited delirium is a catchall phrase to describe symptoms of extreme stress, such as disorientation, profuse sweating, paranoia, and superhuman strength.

When someone is in such a condition – heart racing, blood pressure bursting, fight-or-flight hormones like adrenalin coursing through their body – wouldn’t a giant electrical jolt just make things worse?

“Show me the medical and mechanical reasons why it would make it worse when doctors are telling us, when someone is in that situation you should treat it as a medical emergency and get that person to a medical trauma centre in the quickest way,” Tuttle says. “With no Taser, he’s impervious to pain, agitated, slippery with sweat – you won’t get control in five seconds. Maybe you’ll use batons, which won’t work, pepper spray, which is much more stressful, a bean-bag round, maybe deadly force because the situation spins out of control?”

Dr. David Evans, the Toronto regional supervising coroner for investigations, says that while there’s no proof to say the shock could make things worse, “I agree potentially it could.” But, he adds, “why aren’t they dropping dead immediately?”

Evans says that it doesn’t seem to make sense that the Taser is at fault in the deaths, because the deaths have not been instantaneous. “Normally you’d expect that if someone was going to die from electrocution related to electrical discharge, they’d die right there and then, within a few seconds,” he says.

Tasering doesn’t cause changes in the heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, which leads to death, he says.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Taser+abuse&num=100&so=4&start=0
Taser Abuse & Deaths


It’s a view that Ontario’s deputy coroner, Dr. Jim Cairns, has used to help shape the Toronto Police Services Board policy toward allowing Toronto police to use Tasers. Cairns also spoke at a Taser tactical conference in Chicago last July about excited delirium.

Taser points out that the weapon has not been implicated in any of the deaths in Canada. “We’re just repeating what the medical examiners are saying,” says Tuttle. “The vast majority of those cases have been excited delirium or (drug) overdose.”



Even though “excited delirium” isn’t an accepted medical diagnosis, it may be listed as a “contributory factor” in police-custody deaths, Evans says, but not as the primary cause.

Taser isn’t the only company developing electrical stun weapons. Indiana-based Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems has, in a prototype phase, a futuristic weapon that sends out a streak of lightning, apparently by projecting an ionized gas or ionizing the air itself with a laser, which conducts the electricity forward. The technology could potentially also be used to disable vehicles and, in the future, to help militaries neutralize incoming rocket propelled grenades.

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Taser expects its new products to be available by mid-2008.
http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/Technology/article/281670


Taser International has taken the classic marketing of fear, wrapped it up in the joyful colours of Christmas, and made Santa its salesman.

For the latest push of its civilian- and female-aimed Taser product, the compact C2 – about the size of a TV remote and available in pink – the catch line is: “What does Santa bring you when you have been good but the world is getting bad?”

A scornful Santa is apparently reading the world’s “naughty” list. For $300 to $350 (U.S.), you could have a C2 of your own.

Should images of Christmas, traditionally linked with peace and goodwill, be used to sell something encircled by violence and fear?

Taser makes no apologies. “On the contrary,” says spokesperson Steve Tuttle. “When there’s over 1.4 million violent attacks in America, you’re doing the responsible thing for a loved one if you can provide them with protection.”

Taser has sold more than 161,000 devices to civilians since 1994. (None in Canada. They’re not legal for civilians and won’t be shipped here.)

Brash marketing is Taser’s forte. Yesterday it sponsored a poker tournament in Las Vegas called “Beauty and the Bet” in which the winners got to party with the Playboy Playmates. It was a benefit for the families of fallen police officers.

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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2008, 04:52:16 PM »
The person who authorized this is clearly a fascist who wants police state control in Canada. He should lose his job.

But the problem is - his 'Bosses'...  :o
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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2008, 04:54:49 PM »
Actually wasn't there a news story where cops tasered a baby that wouldn't stop crying?

I have not seen that one, but I look at this:

Taser dart hits infant in hand
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071014_1_A14_hThem37577
By Staff Reports  10/14/2007


OKLAHOMA CITY -- An infant was hit in the hand by a Taser fired by a bounty hunter, but apparently not shocked, when the child's mother used the infant as a shield, police said. The mother, whose name was not released, was later arrested for child endangerment. Preliminary police reports said the bounty hunter had tracked a man to a car at an apartment complex in northwest Oklahoma City on Friday night. "At some point, the bounty hunter felt it was necessary to deploy the Taser, and a female in the car apparently held her infant up to shield herself from the Taser," said Sgt. Keith Vance.

One of the Taser probes lodged in the infant's hand, but the child was not shocked since the other probe missed, Vance said.

Emergency responders were called to the scene about 6:30 p.m. Friday to treat a child with a bloody hand. During the commotion of the child being hit by the Taser probe, the man, whom police identified as Joel Hawkins, tried to drive away and crashed his car at the complex, Vance said. After wrecking the car, Hawkins, 28, escaped after he jumped out of the car and ran away, dropping a firearm in the process, police said. Police also arrested a second unidentified woman, who they discovered was listed as an escapee, though it was not clear from where she escaped, Vance said. The bounty hunter, who also was not identified, apparently did nothing wrong, according to Vance. "He can certainly use a Taser if he feels there is a need to do so," Vance said.
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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2008, 05:00:48 PM »
Off-duty Cop Uses Taser on Man Holding His Newborn Baby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6vBVUusmP0&feature=related

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Re: Police given the "all-clear" on executing children with taser guns
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2008, 05:16:52 PM »
Having personally talked with Andrew ‘don’t tase me bro’ Meyer on the UF campus last fall, I feel almost 100% certain he is fairly troubled by any expansion of the Taser product line.

Remember, the title of that yellow book in Meyer’s hand was Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.  Kind of ironic.

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Re: EMERGENCY>>>TORONTO POLICE ORDER 3000 TASERS!
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2008, 09:38:29 PM »
I thought Canada was a democracy, last time I checked.

Guess it must have been taken over by the British oligarchs.

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Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2008, 12:06:57 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/18/minnesota-police-stock-up_n_87169.html

Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention



The St. Paul Police Department is requesting 230 Tasers to outfit the all of the department's officers with the electroshock weapon, Fox 9 News reports. The SPPD will purchase the Tasers with $210,000 collected from drug raids. The St. Paul City Council will have to approve the purchase.

The purchase is expected to arrive in St. Paul just in time for the Republican National Convention prompting media speculation that the weapons are being purchased specifically for the convention. When asked by Fox 9 News whether the police will use the weapon at the convention particularly against protesters, police spokester Tom Walsh said, "Our hope is that no one will have to use any degree of force. If it becomes necessary, will that be one of the tools available to them? I suppose that's safe to say."
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Re: Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2008, 12:17:09 AM »
Backlash over Officer Punching CopBlack Man on Squad Cam (typo in headline)

Video of the officer punching the man, including a short interview with him.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5814637&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Last year, African Americans filed 69 percent of complaints against the Minneapolis Police Department, even though they account for only 18 percent of the population. Squad car cameras caught an officer punching a man, which has raised concerns about how much force is necessary in subduing a suspect. Marcus Brock, the suspect, is saying he was targeted because of his race. FOX 9's Tom Lyden, reporting.

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Re: Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2008, 12:24:57 AM »
St. Paul Police Orders Tasers For Every Officer
Police force will have 370 Tasers just in time for RNC

ST. PAUL -- St. Paul police are about to issue Tasers to all 370 officers on the force. Police say they are a safe way to stop a potential threat, but some people say Tasers are dangerous and sometimes deadly.


Police spokesman Tom Walsh says the Taser is stronger than a verbal order and less dangerous than a gun, especially in the case of a violent or unstable subject.


“It’s a safety issue for both the person being arrested and the officer,” Walsh said. “The bottom line is the Taser is an effective device that does not require the use of deadly force.”


Currently, 140 St. Paul police officers carry Tasers. The addition of another 230 will bring the total to 37- -- one for every officer on the force.


The 230 new Tasers will cost $210,000 -- paid for with money seized during drug raids or other special investigations. The St. Paul City Council will vote Wednesday on whether to authorize the purchase of the Tasers, which they are likely to do.


Four years ago, St. Paul police unveiled Tasers at a media event and now the Taser is in high demand. But questions about Tasers can’t escape law enforcement.
 

Last month, March Backlund, 29, died after being shot with a Taser in New Brighton, Minn. The exact cause of his death is still under investigation.


Scott Selmer, of the Urban League in St. Paul, believes Tasers could cause unnecessary harm if used too soon.


“Sensitivity training is critical,” Selmer said. “Have some thought that goes into any encounter (police) may have.”


Shortly after the new shipment of Tasers arrives in St. Paul, the Republican National Convention will come to town, and with it, protestors who may or may not get violent.


"Our hope is that no one will have to use any degree of force,” Walsh said. “If it becomes necessary, will that be one of the tools available to them? I suppose that's safe to say." 

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Re: Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2008, 12:29:57 AM »
Autopsy inconclusive on Fridley man who died

Details remain unclear about what led state troopers to fire a Taser at the motorist involved in freeway crash.
[He got into an accident on the freeway and was tasered!]



 By JIM ADAMS and EMILY JOHNS, Star Tribune

Last update: January 18, 2008 - 6:34 AM

A Fridley man who died after being shot with a Taser did not comply with state troopers' requests after he was involved in a rush-hour freeway crash, state authorities said Thursday.

But details about what led to the shooting or what caused the death of Mark C. Backlund, 29, were not released.

The Anoka County medical examiner did an autopsy Thursday, but that office said the cause and manner of Backlund's death were inconclusive pending further study.

Backlund was driving on Interstate 694 to pick up his parents at the airport when he crashed at about 5 p.m. Tuesday in New Brighton. Paramedics said he was breathing when they arrived but he was later pronounced dead at a Fridley hospital.

No previous heart condition

Gordon Backlund said that the family was told his son's heart stopped and that the troopers on the scene gave him CPR. He said his son had no previous heart condition.

Backlund's parents say that news media attention over their son's accidental death has stunned them but that they're willing to talk about him so people know who he was.

"He was a happy child," said Gordon Backlund, who served in the state Legislature from 1985 to 1986. "He really had a unique ability to make people laugh and smile."

Two of the five troopers who were involved had just been hired in December and were riding with other troopers for field experience, according to Department of Public Safety officials.

Public Safety officials declined to release basic incident response data requested by the Star Tribune under the state's open records law.

State records show Backlund had several misdemeanor driving infractions when he was younger but none since 2000. Those include speeding, and underage drinking and driving. While at Mankato State University in 1998, he was convicted of misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Asked whether his son had car crashes before, Gordon Backlund replied: "He's had fender-benders; all kids do."

The five troopers who responded are on routine administrative leave while the case is investigated by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

The agency will not provide details about what happened until the facts are sorted out, said bureau Superintendent Tim O'Malley. He said agents would review all evidence, including any videos recorded by cameras on trooper squad cars or Taser weapons.

Troopers Jon Froemke and Brian Helget were riding with veteran troopers during their field training. The patrol identified the veterans as Tim Koehler, a trooper since May 2000; Wade Erickson, a trooper since October 1999, and Troy McCormack, a trooper since June 1994.

The State Patrol currently has 93 Tasers, some with attached video cameras, in use throughout the state. The Department of Public Safety said the patrol conducted a 12-month pilot project until August 2007 before adding Tasers to trooper equipment used statewide. During the pilot project, Tasers were displayed 27 times and fired 33 times. No known health-related incidents occurred during the test period, according to an agency news release.

The release said before receiving a Taser, troopers must complete a two-day training course. They must also take a one-day recertification course annually. Trooper training standards exceed the manufacturer's recommendations.

About 480 police agencies in Minnesota use Tasers, including those in Minneapolis, St. Paul and St. Cloud. A few agencies, including the State Patrol, have video cameras attached that activate when the Taser is fired. Generally, a Taser shoots two barbed darts on a wire up to 35 feet long. The darts deliver enough voltage to disable a person for about five seconds

http://www.startribune.com/local/north/13877081.html

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Re: Minnesota Police Stock Up On Tasers Before Republican National Convention
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2008, 11:21:44 AM »
North metro police blotter
Arden Hills

JAN. 8

Obstruction. A 29-year-old New Brighton man was arrested at Perkins, 3855 Lexington Av. N. The man had left the restaurant the day before without paying his bill. When he returned the following day, staff called 911. The man denied not paying for his food, and deputies said he refused to follow their orders, so he was zapped with a Taser and arrested for obstruction.


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Taser use in school 'had a good result'
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2008, 04:08:43 AM »
Taser use in school 'had a good result'

Schoolboy threatened teachers with knives
Police fired a Taser at him but missed
Police union says officers had no other choice

TASER stun guns should not be used on children, the police union says.

But Western Australia Police Union president Mike Dean said officers had no other choice when they confronted an "angry and irrational" 12-year-old boy wielding a knife at a school yesterday.

Police fired the Taser at the boy at Safety Bay Senior High School, south of Perth, yesterday after he threatened three teachers with knives he got in a home economics room.

The Taser missed the boy, but he dropped the knife and police were able to apprehend him.

Mr Dean said the officers involved tried all other options before using the Taser on the boy, who was angry with another student.

"Given the location and potential for damage, they couldn't let it go on," Mr Dean said.

"At the end of the day, it's a good result, no one is hurt."

Mr Dean said he had spoken to the officers involved because of personal concerns.

"I don't think we should be using them (Tasers) on young children," he said.

But he said he was comfortable with the decision made by the officers after listening to the facts.

"He had two knives in his hands, he's in a raging temper, he was very angry and very irrational."
If anyone was traumatised, it was the officers involved, Mr Dean said.

The boy pleaded guilty in Rockingham Children's Court today to charges of threatening to injure, endanger or harm three teachers.

WA Education Minister Mark McGowan said the incident was "disturbing" and Tasers should be used only as a last resort.

"Police are confronted with difficult situations very often but it's something you would do as a last resort," he said on ABC radio.

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Re: Taser use in school 'had a good result'
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2008, 05:13:56 AM »
If anyone was traumatised, it was the officers involved, Mr Dean said.

wow, like wow, that is amazing

he probably said it with a straight face

they act like they are on a safari and a lion was raging toward them and then they blew the lion away at the last second.

i cannot even fathom the psyche of these people

anyway, tasers or guns are sanctioned to be used if an officer feels that their life is threatened.  this case might be open to interpretation.

but how was his life threatened, he fired the taser and it missed.  but the kid was arrested.

doesn't it sound like there may be a piece of the story missing?
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Re: Taser use in school 'had a good result'
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2008, 07:01:15 AM »
At my old highschool a nut pulled a knife on my sister and nothing major was down about it...

I found that as a Catholic school they really stuck to their true MO.... sweep under the carpet.

Lol - My mates offered "services" but I'm more of a person who waits for the prey to break it's leg...

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