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Five global powers agree on UN Security resolution draft to settle Syrian crisis
« Reply #1160 on: December 18, 2015, 03:33:04 PM »
Five global powers agree on UN Security resolution draft to settle Syrian crisis – reports
Dec 18, 2015 - RT

The five permanent UNSC members have agreed on a draft of a resolution calling for a ceasefire and political settlement in Syria, agencies report, citing diplomat sources. The official vote is expected in the coming hours.


The four-page draft demands that all parties to the Syrian conflict “immediately cease any attacks against civilians,” Reuters reports. A mechanism to monitor, verify and report the truce is to be worked out within a month.

The draft resolution would also ask the UN to convene formal talks on a transitional government. The talks between the regime and opposition are targeted for early January.

"The Syrian people will decide the future of Syria," says the draft.

Foreign ministers from 18 countries as well as the UN and Arab League representatives gathered in New York Friday to push the Syria roadmap. The group has already met twice in Vienna in the last six weeks and drafted a road map for the Syrian conflict reconciliation.

Apart from the UN and the Arab League, the group includes Russia, the US, the EU, the UK, Germany, France, China, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Qatar, Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

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Soros Plays Both Ends in Syria Refugee Chaos – F. William Engdahl
« Reply #1161 on: December 18, 2015, 08:26:51 PM »
Soros Plays Both Ends in Syria Refugee Chaos –
Dec 18, 2015 - F. William Engdahl - The News Doctors

Since John D. Rockefeller was advised to protect his wealth from government taxation by creating a tax-exempt philanthropic foundation in 1913, foundations have been used by American oligarchs to disguise a world of dirty deeds under the cover “doing good for mankind,” known by the moniker “philanthropy” for mankind-loving. No less the case is that of George Soros who likely has more tax-exempt foundations under his belt than anyone around. His Open Society foundations are in every country where Washington wants to put ‘their man’ in, or at least get someone out who doesn’t know how to read their music. They played a key role in regime change in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe after 1989. Now his foundations are up to their eyeballs in promoting propaganda serving the US-UK war agenda for destroying stability in Syria as they did in Libya three years ago, creating the current EU refugee crisis.

We should take a closer look at the ongoing Syrian refugee crisis wreaking such havoc and unrest across the EU, especially in Germany, the favored goal of most asylum seekers today. George Soros, today a naturalized American citizen, has just authored a six-point proposal telling the European Union on what they must do to manage the situation. It’s worth looking at in detail.

He begins by stating, “The EU needs a comprehensive plan to respond to the crisis, one that reasserts effective governance over the flows of asylum-seekers so that they take place in a safe, orderly way…” He then says that, “First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future.”

Soros does not elaborate where he pulled that figure from, nor does he discuss the role of other of his Soros-financed NGOs in Syria and elsewhere which manufacture faked propaganda to build a public sympathy lobby for a US and UK “No Fly Zone” in Syria as was done to destroy Libya.

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The Syrian opposition circus comes to town
« Reply #1162 on: December 22, 2015, 11:52:33 PM »
The Syrian opposition circus comes to town
Sharmine Narwani - Dec 22, 2015 - RT

In January, the Syrian government will – ostensibly - sit across the negotiating table from ‘the Syrian opposition’ to decide on the structure and make-up of a transitional government that promises to end the 5-year Syrian conflict.


The ‘Syrian opposition,’ we are told by US Secretary of State John Kerry, will be selected by ‘Syrians’ and will therefore be ‘representative.’

“This is not about imposing anything on anyone,” Kerry remarked about the Vienna process, convened to broker a Syrian peace – which was negotiated by 20 countries, but without the involvement of Syrians.

“I want to be clear: the Syrian people will be the validators of this whole effort,” says Kerry again – lest we forget. This is just before he instructs us that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad cannot hold any long-term position in Syria: “Asking the opposition to trust Assad or to accept Assad’s leadership is simply not a reasonable request, and it is literally therefore a non-starter,” explains Kerry from his non-Syrian perspective.

Incidentally, Kerry now also calls any Syrian demand for Assad to leave before the political transition “a non-starting position.” It appears that to be part of this ‘Syrian solution,’ you must first agree with Kerry’s many nuanced positions on Syria.

But back to the ‘Syrian opposition’ – those able negotiators who will represent the ‘Syrian people’ come January.

This is where it gets really confusing. The 20 non-Syrian countries participating in the Vienna process will ultimately decide 1. which Syrians will speak for the opposition at future talks, and 2. which Syrians will instead be labelled ‘terrorists’ to be slaughtered on the battlefield.

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1163 on: October 05, 2016, 09:12:19 AM »
http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/24/syria-white-helmets-staged-russian-bombing-scene-near-aleppo-lapped-up-by-mainstream-media/

Syria: White Helmets Staged ‘Russian Bombing’ Scene Near Aleppo, Lapped-up by Mainstream Media

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some resources claim that International Syria Support Group came to that conclusion. any link to press release or smth?

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1164 on: October 14, 2016, 10:58:27 AM »
Exclusive: Obama, aides expected to weigh Syria military options on Friday

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-options-exclusiv-idUSKCN12D2B2

I have a really bad feeling about this...

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1165 on: December 20, 2016, 04:56:36 AM »
http://www.globalresearch.ca/breaking-fourteen-us-led-coalition-military-advisers-captured-by-syrian-forces-in-aleppo/5563139
At least 14 US-led coalition military advisers have been captured by the Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in the city of Aleppo, according to media reports.

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1166 on: January 03, 2017, 08:38:41 AM »
At least 188 civilians have been killed in U.S.-led strikes against Islamic State targets in Iraq and Syria since the operation began in 2014, the U.S. military said in a statement on Monday.  :o :o

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa-civilians-idUSKBN14M0U6http://

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1167 on: March 23, 2017, 08:17:17 AM »
Al-Qaeda Order:
'Do Not Consult Anybody to Kill Americans'

 BRIDGET JOHNSON - MARCH 19, 2017


Defense Department officials released this aerial photograph taken after a March 16, 2017, U.S. strike in Jinah, Syria. The small building on the left
is a mosque, Pentagon spokesman Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters at the Pentagon on March 17. (DoD photo)


A new bulletin from al-Qaeda released two days ago on social media and the terror group's Telegram channel tells jihadists to go forth and just kill Americans without any Islamic consultations first.

Al-Qaeda's eleventh al-Nafir Bulletin unleashes fury over allegations that a U.S. airstrike struck a mosque with worshippers at evening prayers, killing up to 42 people, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights in Britain.

U.S. Central Command said in a Thursday press release that "U.S. forces conducted an airstrike on an al-Qaeda in Syria meeting location March 16 in Idlib, Syria, killing several terrorists." On Friday, defense officials released a black-and-white aerial image of the site in Al-Jinah village, stressing that a small mosque was still standing while a larger building across the street was flattened. Syrians have argued that the building decimated in the airstrike was a newer, larger mosque facility.

Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said the U.S. is analyzing whether any civilian casualties occurred in the strike, but said the airstrike hit its intended target.

"We had tracked this building for some time,” Davis said. “We know it was being used by al-Qaeda, but at this particular time its purpose was to host this meeting of very senior people in al-Qaeda.”

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"It is a clear and evident message from the carrier of the cross, America, and its allies in the east and west, and its Arab and foreign apostate agents, that 'you must, O Muslims, remain lowly and diminished, we steal your resources, we render your honors permissible, and we demolish and desecrate your sanctities. Otherwise, we will kill your children in the bellies of their mothers, we will strike your sheikhs in their mihrab, we will keep your sheikhs in the prisons of oppression and torture, and we will punish your Mujahideen on every terrain and every battleground,'" the bulletin said.

Al-Qaeda told "Muslims in general and the youth of Islam in particular" to henceforth "not consult anybody to kill Americans."

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1168 on: March 28, 2017, 10:23:24 AM »

US Forces Block Syrian Army Advance in Preparation For Syria Partition

A U.S.-backed operation near Raqqa aims to "block any advance by Syrian government forces from the west". The Balkanization of Syria begins

http://russia-insider.com/en/prepare-partition-us-forces-block-syrian-armys-advance-raqqa/ri19344?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1169 on: March 28, 2017, 10:25:21 AM »
State of Great Kurdistan to be Created in Syria and Iraq
https://en.insidesyriamc.com/2017/03/24/breaking-news-state-of-great-kurdistan-to-be-created-in-syria-and-iraq/

Inside Syria Media Center has obtained proofs of plans to create a state of Great Kurdistan.

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The Globalist's war in Syria started LONG AGO!!
« Reply #1170 on: March 28, 2017, 11:40:47 AM »


Syria: Another Pipeline War
http://www.ecowatch.com/syria-another-pipeline-war-1882180532.html
Feb. 25, 2016 05:29PM EST
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

"... Long before our 2003 occupation of Iraq triggered the Sunni uprising that has now morphed into the Islamic State, the CIA had nurtured violent Jihadism as a Cold War weapon and freighted U.S./Syrian relationships with toxic baggage.

During the 1950's, President Eisenhower and the Dulles brothers rebuffed Soviet treaty proposals to leave the Middle East a cold war neutral zone and let Arabs rule Arabia. Instead, they mounted a clandestine war against Arab Nationalism—which CIA Director Allan Dulles equated with communism—particularly when Arab self-rule threatened oil concessions. They pumped secret American military aid to tyrants in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon favoring puppets with conservative Jihadist ideologies which they regarded as a reliable antidote to Soviet Marxism. At a White House meeting between the CIA's Director of Plans, Frank Wisner, and Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, in September of 1957, Eisenhower advised the agency, “We should do everything possible to stress the 'holy war' aspect."

The CIA began its active meddling in Syria in 1949—barely a year after the agency's creation. Syrian patriots had declared war on the Nazis, expelled their Vichy French colonial rulers and crafted a fragile secularist democracy based on the American model. But in March of 1949, Syria's democratically elected president, Shukri-al-Kuwaiti, hesitated to approve the Trans Arabian Pipeline, an American project intended to connect the oil fields of Saudi Arabia to the ports of Lebanon via Syria. In his book, Legacy of Ashes, CIA historian Tim Weiner recounts that in retaliation, the CIA engineered a coup, replacing al-Kuwaiti with the CIA's handpicked dictator, a convicted swindler named Husni al-Za'im. Al-Za'im barely had time to dissolve parliament and approve the American pipeline before his countrymen deposed him, 14 weeks into his regime. ... (continued)

============ It's all about the Natural Gas pipelines ==========THEY LIE TO US (big surprise)==============

Good video covering this:

The Real Reason We're In Syria Is Enraging But Not Surprising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDLuf-3kaA
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1171 on: March 28, 2017, 12:36:48 PM »
The "Arab Spring" was about oil pipelines; and if you look at the map above, it appears that the countries in the path of the pipeline are "ENEMIES" ....

They've fomented hatred of Islam (starting in 1949)  to make us think we're "spreading democracy."
Bullsh*t - we're a bunch of patsies. We're paying for their pipelines, killing people on their behalf, for their pipelines.

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1172 on: March 28, 2017, 12:47:06 PM »
The Oil-Gas War Over Syria (In 4 Maps)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/oil-gas-war-over-syria-4-maps
by Tyler Durden
Oct 25, 2016 6:50 AM

Turkey’s Anadolu News Agency, though government-run, is providing remarkably clear and reliable diagrammatic descriptions of the current status of the U.S - and - fundamentalist - Sunni, versus Russia - and - Shia - and - NON - fundamentalist - Sunni, sides, in the current oil-and-gas war in the Middle East, for control over territory in Syria, for construction of oil-and-gas pipelines through Syria supplying fuel into the world’s largest energy-market: Europe. Russia is now the dominant supplier of both oil and gas, but its ally Iran is a Shiite gas-powerhouse that wants to share the market there, and Russia has no objection.

Qatar is a Sunni gas-powerhouse and wants to become the main supplier of gas there, and Saudi Arabia is a Sunni oil-powerhouse, which wants to become the major supplier of oil, but Saudi oil and Qatari gas would be pipelined through secular-controlled (Assad's) Syria,
and this is why the U.S. and its fundamentalist-Sunni allies, the Sauds, and Qataris,
are using Al Qaeda and other jihadists to conquer enough of a strip through Syria
so that U.S. companies such as Halliburton will be able safely
to place pipelines there, to be marketed in Europe by U.S. firms such as Exxon.


Iran also wants to pipeline its gas through Syria, and this is one reason why Iran is defending Syria’s government, against the U.S.-Saudi-Qatari-jihadist invasion, which is trying to overthrow and replace Assad.

Here are the most-informative of Anadolu’s war-maps:

The first presents the effort by many countries to eliminate ISIS control over the large Iraqi city of Mosul. A remarkably frank remark made in this map is "An escape corridor into Syria will be left for Daesh [ISIS] so they can vacate Mosul" - an admission that the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari team want the ISIS jihadists who are in Mosul to relocate into Syria to assist the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari effort there to overthrow and replace the Assad government:



The second is about the Egyptian government's trying to assist the Syrian government's defense against the Saudi - U.S. - Qatari invasion of Syria, at Aleppo, where Syria's Al Qaeda branch is trying to retain its current control over part of that large city. The Saud family are punishing the Egyptian government for that:



Here is Russia's proposed gas-pipeline, which would enable Russia to reduce its dependence upon Ukraine (through which Russia currently pipes its gas into Europe). Obama conquered and took over Ukraine in February 2014 via his coup that overthrew the democratically elected neutralist Ukrainian President there:



In addition, there is the following map from oil-price.com:



That map shows the competing Shiia (Russia-backed) and Sunni (U.S.-backed) gas-pipelines into Europe — the central issue in the invasion and defense of Syria.

On 21 September 2016, Gareth Porter headlined "The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a ‘Pipeline War’", and he pointed out some errors in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s account that had been published under the headline "Syria: Another Pipeline War". Porter argued: "It's easy to understand why that explanation would be accepted by many anti-war activists: it is in line with the widely accepted theory that all the US wars in the Middle East have been ‘oil wars’ — about getting control of the petroleum resources of the region and denying them to America's enemies."

But the ‘pipeline war’ theory is based on false history and it represents a distraction from the real problem of US policy in the Middle East — the US war state's determination to hold onto its military posture in the region. Porter ignored the key question there, as to why the US war state has a determination to hold onto its military posture in the region. Opening and protecting potential oil-gas-pipeline routes are important reasons why. Clearly, Kennedy’s documentation that the CIA was trying as early as 1949 to overthrow Syria’s secular government so as to allow to the Sauds a means of cheaply transporting their oil through Syria into Europe, remains unaffected by any of the objections that Porter raised to Kennedy’s article. The recent portion of Kennedy’s timeline is affected, but not his basic argument.

Furthermore, any military strategist knows that the US war state is intimately connected to the U.S. oil-and-gas industries, including pipelines (oilfield services) as well as marketing (Exxon etc.). And Porter got entirely wrong what that connection (which he ignored) actually consists of: it consists of U.S. government taxpayer-funded killers for those U.S. international corporations. Here is how Barack Obama put it, when addressing graduating cadets at West Point, America’s premier military-training institution:


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Russia’s aggression toward former Soviet states unnerves capitals in Europe, while China’s economic rise and military reach worries its neighbors. From Brazil to India, rising middle classes compete with us, and governments seek a greater say in global forums. And even as developing nations embrace democracy and market economies, 24-hour news and social media makes it impossible to ignore the continuation of sectarian conflicts and failing states and popular uprisings that might have received only passing notice a generation ago.
 
It will be your generation’s task to respond to this new world. The question we face, the question each of you will face, is not whether America will lead, but how we will lead - not just to secure our peace and prosperity, but also extend peace and prosperity around the globe.

He was saying there that America’s military is in service to U.S.-based international corporations in their competition against those of Russia, Brazil, China, India, and anywhere else in which "rising middle classes compete with us". Those places are what Gareth Porter referred to as "America's enemies".

Economic competitors are "enemies". Obama thinks that way, and even a progressive journalist such as Porter doesn’t place into a skeptical single - quotation - mark - surround, the phrase ‘America’s enemies’ when that phrase is used in this equational context. On both the right (Obama) and the left (Porter), the equation of a government and of the international corporations that headquarter in its nation — the treatment of the military as being an enforcement-arm for the nation’s international corporations — is simply taken for granted, not questioned, not challenged.

RFK Jr. was correct, notwithstanding some recent timeline-errors. Syria is "Another Pipeline War", and Obama is merely intensifying it. (On 9 November 2015, I offered a different account than RFK Jr. provided of the recent history — the Obama portion — of the longstanding U.S. aggression against Syria; and it links back to Jonathan Marshall’s excellent articles on that, and to other well-sourced articles, in addition to primary sources, none of which contradict RFK Jr.’s basic view, "Syria: Another Pipeline War").

Another portion of Porter’s commentary is, however, quite accurate: America’s ‘Defense’ (or mass-killing-abroad) industries (such as Lockheed Martin) are not merely servants of the U.S. government, but are also served by the U.S. government: "the US war state's determination to hold onto its military posture in the region" is protection of the major market — the Middle Eastern market — for U.S. ‘Defense’ products and services. It’s not only America’s firms in the oil, gas, and pipelines, industries, which benefit from America’s military; it is also America’s firms in the mass-killing industries, that do.

To the extent that the public (here including Barack Obama and Gareth Porter) do not condemn the presumption that "the business of America is business", or that a valid function of U.S. - taxpayer - funded military and other foreign-affairs operations is to serve the stockholders of U.S. international corporations, the hell (such as in Syria) will continue. Gareth Porter got lost among the trees because he failed to see (and to point to) that forest.
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1173 on: March 28, 2017, 12:52:13 PM »
The "long war" continues... puppet Obama got the militant islamists armed...

Seymour Hersh report on Syria: White House knew US was arming Islamic State
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/12/27/Seymour-Hersh-report-on-Syria-White-House-knew-US-was-arming-Islamic-State/6951451232210/

Updated Dec. 28, 2015

WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 (UPI) -- Pulitzer-prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh reports that the administration of President Barack Obama, in particular the CIA, has knowingly armed militant Islamists in Syria, including the Islamic State.

"Barack Obama's repeated insistence that Bashar al-Assad must leave office -- and that there are 'moderate' rebel groups in Syria capable of defeating him -- has in recent years provoked quiet dissent, and even overt opposition, among some of the most senior officers on the Pentagon's Joint Staff," Hersh writes in the London Review of Books. "Their criticism has focused on what they see as the administration's fixation on Assad's primary ally, Vladimir Putin. In their view, Obama is captive to Cold War thinking about Russia and China, and hasn't adjusted his stance on Syria to the fact both countries share Washington's anxiety about the spread of terrorism in and beyond Syria; like Washington, they believe that Islamic State must be stopped."

Hersh writes that a highly classified 2013 Defense Intelligence Agency/Joint Chiefs of Staff report on Syria forecast that the fall of the Assad regime would lead to "chaos" and possibly to Islamist extremists taking over Syria.

Hersh reports that Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, director of the DIA between 2012 and 2014, told him that his agency sent a "constant stream" of warnings to the "civilian leadership" about the dire consequences of ousting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. (continued)
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1174 on: March 28, 2017, 01:04:57 PM »
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1175 on: March 30, 2017, 04:59:48 PM »
" ... the U.S. is acquiescing to Syrian peace
negotiations spearheaded by Russia, Iran, and Turkey."


Tillerson Makes Big Break From Obama’s Syria Policy
SAAGAR ENJETI - 03/30/2017


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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson indicated the U.S. could accept President Bashar al-Assad as the leader of Syria at a meeting with Turkey’s foreign minister Thursday.

Tillerson told reporters the “longer-term status of President Assad will be decided by the Syrian people.” The statement reverses official U.S. government opposition to Assad, who is responsible for the deaths of nearly half a million of his own citizens. “For the sake of the Syrian people, the time has come for President Assad to step aside,” former President Barack Obama said in 2011.

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The peace talks appear to center on a plan to divide Syria into three de-facto states with Assad at the helm. A leaked copy of the plans in December indicated the three sub-states would be regionally autonomous and nominally remain under the power of a federal administrative system. This federal system would retain Assad in the beginning, before a less divisive figure took the helm. Assad’s religious sect, Shiite Alawites, would remain in charge of the federal system and have their own zone of influence under the terms of the deal.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/30/tillerson-makes-big-break-from-obamas-syria-policy/?utm_campaign=thedcmainpage&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

Splitting Syria Into 3 De-Facto States To End Civil War
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/28/russian-allies-discuss-splitting-syria-into-3-de-facto-states-to-end-civil-war/
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1176 on: March 30, 2017, 05:21:01 PM »
I am really botherd that the Trump administration is continuing down this road . Chanting the old mantra about freedom and democracy ,when what it is .is regime change ,no one seems to be learning from various other failed attempts

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1177 on: March 30, 2017, 05:48:59 PM »

"...Secretary of State Rex Tillerson indicated the U.S.
could accept President Bashar al-Assad as the leader of Syria ..."



Wow... that was SO nice of us, right?
If anyone had any doubt who gets to choose the leaders of many other countries, it's all right there in that statement.


Meanwhile, everyone in Washington has their panties in a twist about "Russian meddling" in the election.
What BS.
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1178 on: March 31, 2017, 09:45:20 AM »
Wow... that was SO nice of us, right?
If anyone had any doubt who gets to choose the leaders of many other countries, it's all right there in that statement.


Meanwhile, everyone in Washington has their panties in a twist about "Russian meddling" in the election.
What BS.

Which we now know, courtesy of Wikileaks 7 - MARBLE was utter BS.

It was the CIA faking Russian Hackers
Its was the CIA hacking French Elections
It was the CIA all along . . .

Are'nt you glad Trump is giving the CIA a Pay Rise ? -- LOL




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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1179 on: April 02, 2017, 07:57:09 PM »
" ... flowy pants and long shirts, a uniform worn by ISIS ...
complicate efforts to distinguish between civilians and combatants."


ISIS Makes Everyone Dress The
Same To Deter US Drone Strikes

SAAGAR ENJETI - 03/30/2017

Islamic State terrorists are forcing male citizens of Raqqa to
dress in terrorist garb, the Associated Press reports.


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The move is just one in a series of moves by the terror group designed to deter U.S. operations by means of civilians trapped inside the city. The group has now encircled the entire city of Raqqa with landmines and checkpoints, and is also forcing residents to camp out in tents in the middle of the street.

.... ISIS has also put tarps up above streets to allow for freedom of movement, and are heavily booby trapping the entire city. The preparations also include ferreting European fighters to safer locations, so they may be sent abroad to carry out terrorist operations if the caliphate falls. The group is applying many of the urban defense lessons from the battle for Mosul to its defenses of Raqqa.

“They tell people … it is a battle against Islam, all nations are attacking us and the Prophet says we should be united,” one resident told the AP. He continued, “They are putting psychological pressure on residents.”

ISIS’s actions are likely preparations for the coming U.S.-backed assault on the city. The Trump administration has significantly escalated the U.S. role in Syria and is hitting the city of Raqqa with airstrikes daily to shape the battlefield for the coming assault by the Syrian Democratic Forces. U.S. Army Gen. Joseph Votel indicated before Congress Wednesday that the Trump administration would rely on local forces to do the ground fighting against ISIS, with significant U.S. assistance.

The group has stymied the U.S. and Iraqi Security Forces in the fight for Mosul, where thousands of civilians have been caught in the fighting. ISIS routinely uses Mosuls’s civilian population to deter U.S. airstrikes, and in some cases lures U.S. airstrikes into intentionally killing civilians. The group has deployed suicide bombers among civilians fleeing the fighting to kill soldiers at checkpoints.

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ISIS holds terrified civilians as human shields in Syrian city

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/isis-holds-terrified-civilians-as-human-shields-in-syrian-city?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%203.30.17&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Military%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief
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« Reply #1180 on: May 18, 2017, 01:46:00 PM »
Just saw a report on a US strike on Syrian forces. Anybody able to confirm? I can't find an article or link yet.
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #1181 on: May 18, 2017, 01:52:53 PM »
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« Reply #1184 on: June 18, 2017, 07:56:00 PM »
US-Led Coalition Just Shot Down a Syrian Warplane


http://www.amtvmedia.com/us-led-coalition-just-shot-down-a-syrian-warplane/



Reuters reports the Syrian Arab Army announced that the aircraft was brought down in the southern Raqqa countryside, while it was engaging a fleeing ISIS convoy. The pilot remains missing.

Statement issued by the Syrian General Command of the Army and Armed Forces:

The International Alliance (IAAF) this afternoon called for the targeting of one of our fighter jets in the Rusafa area in the southern Rifqa district while carrying out a combat mission against an organization calling on the terrorist in the area, which led to the plane crash and the loss of the pilot.

This blatant attack confirms beyond doubt the reality of the US position supporting terrorism, which aims to try to influence the ability of the Syrian Arab army the only effective force with its allies that exercise their legitimate right to fight terrorism throughout the territory of the homeland, especially as this attack comes at a time that achieves In which the Syrian Arab Army and its allies made clear progress in fighting the organization calling on the terrorist who is being defeated in the Syrian desert on more than one direction.

It also affirms the existing coordination between the United States of America and the organization of the terrorist advocate, and exposes the malicious intentions of the United States of America in the management and investment of terrorism to achieve its objectives in passing the American Zionist project in the region.

The General Command of the Army and the Armed Forces, warning of the serious consequences of this blatant attack on counterterrorism efforts, affirms that such attacks will not discourage them from their determination and determination to continue the war against the terrorist organizations and groups associated with them and restore security and stability to all the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.

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Russian warning after US downs Syrian jet
 
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Russia has warned the US-led coalition fighting in Syria that it will view its aircraft as targets, after a Syrian military plane was shot down.



The coalition said it had shot down the Syrian SU-22 after it bombed US-backed rebels in Raqqa province on Sunday.

Russia, Syria's main ally, said it was also halting communication with the US aimed at preventing air incidents.

Syria condemned America's "flagrant attack", saying it would have "dangerous repercussions".

"Any aircraft, including planes and drones belonging to the international coalition operating west of the Euphrates river, will be tracked by Russian anti-aircraft forces in the sky and on the ground and treated as targets," the Russian defence ministry said.

It denied the US had used a communications channel before the SU-22 fighter bomber was downed.

The memorandum of co-operation with the coalition aimed at preventing air incidents and guaranteeing flight safety was ending as of Monday, the defence ministry added.

What does this signify? Jonathan Marcus, BBC defence and diplomatic correspondent


The downing of a Syrian warplane by a US jet threatens to draw Washington further into the Syrian fighting.


The US has already attacked pro-government forces on the ground after they entered an exclusion zone designed to protect US personnel training and advising anti-government rebels near Syria's border with Iraq.

Now Washington is extending this protection to forces that it backs who are engaged in the offensive against Raqqa. These local, tactical steps inevitably could have strategic implications creating a further source of friction between Washington and Tehran.

Iran's focus is increasingly on the border region between Syria and Iraq. The struggle for control of this crucial territory is becoming ever more dangerous.

Iran's own missile strikes against what it says are IS targets underscores Tehran's willingness to act in defence of its own interests in Syria.

The co-operation had been halted after the US launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Syria's Shayrat airbase in April in response to a suspected chemical weapons attack on a rebel-held town in Idlib province.

But the US and Russia had agreed to resume communications last month.

The SU-22 fighter bomber was engaged by an F/A-18E Super Hornet after it had dropped bombs near the town of Tabqa in Raqqa province on Sunday afternoon, the Pentagon said.

It is believed to be the first air-to-air kill of a manned aircraft by a US military jet since the Kosovo campaign in 1999.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) were operating in the Tabqa area.

The SDF have been fighting Islamic State militants as part of a drive to retake the city of Raqqa, the IS stronghold further to the east.

A statement from the US-led coalition's Operation Inherent Resolve said pro-government militiamen had attacked SDF units, driving them from the town of Ja'Din.

The US-led coalition conducted what it said was a "show of force" - a reported buzzing of the pro-government troops by jets - to stop the attack and then called Russia to try to "de-escalate the situation and stop the firing".

However, the SU-22 dropped bombs on SDF positions a few hours later, the coalition said, and "in accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defence of coalition-partnered forces [the plane] was immediately shot down".

Attempts to warn the plane away using an emergency radio frequency failed, the US Central Command said.

The coalition statement added: "The demonstrated hostile intent and actions of pro-regime forces toward Coalition and partner forces in Syria conducting legitimate counter-Isis [IS] operations will not be tolerated."

The coalition, it added, did "not seek to fight the Syrian regime, Russian or pro-regime forces partnered with them, but will not hesitate to defend coalition or partner forces from any threat".

The Syrian army said its warplane had been on a mission against IS when it came under fire, according to state television.

It said the incident would have "dangerous repercussions" on efforts to fight terrorism.

An army statement said the pilot of the plane was missing.

Although this is the first time the coalition has shot down a Syrian jet, there have been an increasing number of incidents between the two sides:
Earlier this month, the US shot down a pro-Syrian government armed drone after it fired at coalition forces near the al-Tanf border crossing, between Syria and Iraq
In May, US-led coalition aircraft bombed a convoy of pro-Syrian government forces who were reportedly moving towards a base at al-Tanf being used by rebel fighters and Western special forces
In September 2016, US-led coalition planes targeting IS positions instead killed Syrian troops. The US expressed "regret" for the incident, which Russia said left 62 Syrian troops dead

In a separate incident on Sunday, Iran's Revolutionary Guards said they had launched several missiles from Iran into eastern Syria, targeting IS fighters.

The Guards said they had fired mid-range ground-to-ground missiles from western Iran targeting "the headquarters and meeting place and suicide car assembly line" of "IS terrorists" in Deir al-Zour province.

A "large number" of militants were killed and equipment and weapons were destroyed, the Guards said.

The missiles were apparently in response to an IS-claimed attack on the Iranian parliament earlier this month which killed more than a dozen people.

"The spilling of any pure blood will not go unanswered," a Guards statement said.

Iran has been a key ally of President Assad, sending military advisers and thousands of "volunteer" troops.