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« on: December 29, 2012, 05:55:38 AM »

Introducing myself.

Hello fellow prison planeteers Tongue

This is my first post as clearly visible if you haven't noticed yet.
I'm 21 years old and live in western europe. I work in a second hand store to produce EU toiletpaper.
I've been much into informative sites such as these.
I've been into real news with not just alex jones but many others and I have been reading many articles on anything relating the NWO, false flag shit, brainwashing, depopulation, enslavement, and geographical situations that proclaim what we all proclaim will happen soon which is world war may it include nukes or not.

I thank the community and all it's members for it's share of information and even more gratitude as more and more information goes by.

I am a European, so what do i do? Cry

I have some glitches in this NWO and survival ordeal.
Now I do know that many of you whom are americans are gonna fight the first world war revolution soon. And I truthfully wish that you americans will cooperatively use your 300million guns to take america back. And I also know that most of the criminals that involve the depopulation plan, police state, banking scams and such come from America.

The glitch is that I do not yet know, and theirfore assume their isn't a european equivalent community that talks about the same things at the same level for european people out there.
Ofcourse many that is dicussed out here also accounts to europe or any other continent out there.
Real inside reports about european affairs don't go no further then then that Mario draghi, Mario Monti, and that Herman von Rompuy are bad. Like I could have actually figured that out w/o infowars to tell me simply by knowing that they rule along with the ponzi scheme.

All I have done for preparations for the coming disasters is stocking up long preservable GMO foods.
That's still better then many "wildlife" food out there that is covered in alluminium, barium and mercury through chemtrails.
I have bought some strong boots and quality overalls and fishing rod, knifes and practiced ways to make fire and read wildlife books so I hope to independantly detect eatable and non eatable plants and so on.

Furthermore there are some survival items and/or resources that will get people to move on, these items are mostly american only shipping. It are most of all the items that are being advertised on this site. So that is for the advertised ones out there and I don't know how to detect other quality items similar for lack of knowledge on how they work.

Furthermore there are certain questions I could start to summup which cannot account to europeans (or anybody for that matter) while I would hope it should. Like blank questions involving how to survival in european climate? Where certain items can be bought for europeans?

Personally I would love to know where I could get E-foods or a equivalent company? E-foods only ships in the united states and canada. And even those webshops like that of E-foods actually regularly run out of stock even for americans themselves simply. So it's not like im stating it should be a request to ship over here. Maybe some fellow europeans should invest into a equivalent natural clean food company which I'm amazed of that they havent done so far.

I'm also looking for healing herbs to counter fight the fluor, alluminium, mercury and GMO damage it inflicted on my body. Herbs like Tongkat ali and it's synthesized higher exract capsules to boost testosterone for a chance. Again, i have found similar items on other sites, but then do not know if it's the same proper quality as the advertised ones. On top of that I did notice that most of the Tongkat ali equivalents are always mixed with other unwanted ingredients. Is any of the tongkat ali product in this list
http://biovea.net/results.aspx?PageNo=1&KW=tongkat%20ali&TI=GR-Tongkat-Ali&gclid=CPrwlLjRv7QCFW_KtAodxwEAJw#.UN7k1HdlEeM
Pure and safe?

Or where I could get to find european webshops or local shops to find the similary quality water filtration or solar energy equipment. And how durable is propur? If I buy a propur device will it go along for years on end, or will they only work for a year or less.

I have found equivalent water filtration devices and solar energy similar to propur. Yet I don't know if they're the same quality devices that are advertised widely on sites as these. Because Im not a technician on these devices I can only assume that only the advertised devices on sites as these are actualy of good quality. And if other equivalent devices are just as good or even better. Shocked
Furthermore i havent found a proper energy generator to use. I have heard about a solar panel with power supply and the needed electrical sockets so I could use household devices in times of energy scarcedy. yet they cost 2000bucks a set. Are their cheaper alternatives.
I also heard about free energy generators, something in the technical/physical lines of implosion energy. Finalized products of Nikola Teslas technology that are available I've heard. I could brabble abracadarbi Sci-fi here but it's a real existing public hidden technology. I just don't know if there's a secret product on this technology and whether it costs 10 bucks or $10.000
It would be very helpfull in times to come.

If devices to self sustain energy and basic life needs like the devices I just talked about are to no use as it could turn out. Probably because it's a noticeable conclusion that police and military force may overwhelm our cities and even the rural subburbans in between the only leftover survival method might be to "survival"

A little bit of European Survivaling.

Then where does this europen man should go?
The european theatre is alot different then the american theatre.
In the americas you have unrept lands for the short occupation of westeners there only massively for just 300years.

Even although the United states has a greyed out eastern seaboard for all the cultural development aka cities seen from space for example as a american you just walk a few clicks further westbound and you have hundreds if not thousands of miles of unrept land to survive in.

Europe on the other hand has been inhabited since several thousands years before dated history.
Modernization since the last few hundred years made europe a zoo with nearly 0% natural lands or areas. Those few patches of acres in between cities that do host natural wildlife or land will be occupied by all the refugees from the cities if economies crash and police takes on the streets.

The lack of natural lands accounts mostly for western europe. If I were to survive somewhere I need to go as far as the chech republic, or into russia sweden or finland. In the worst case scenario on foot. And these are survival regions even less survivable as the widespread chooseable survival regions the U.s.a. offers. Like for the chech republic, russia, sweden or finland all these places are COOLD!! and FREEZY!! at specific times of the year, deadly as in "COOLD"

If you cannot participate into society anymore while in europe your options to survive are nearly ZERO.

I would hope there are some good european minds out there that could develop ways for people like me and my neighbours and themselves ofcourse to actually have a chance.

Because if the elitist, secret people, NWO beasts will be the continuous victor on their agenda, and that pessimistic scare thought could eventually be a conclusion then it wouldn't mean that we could simply cancel our energy bills, mortgages, and the rest of our inflated bills to rest in our tents with our self sustaining uses by methods of water filtration and independant energy generators we will be crushed by armies, police, nukes and so on.

If that happens in europe, your dead, dead, dead. Their will be no deer to hunt or rabbit to capture or fish to catch. Unless you "were gone early enough before we got there" to seek potentially safe haven in scandinavia or russia. And even those places are ofcourse not safe at all, and will nowhere be safe for that matter. Hence why it's a prisonplanet.
It may sound rather comic like, right out of a american comic.
But if you have had been aware on the european landscape.
In france all the acres in between cities are wine/champagne fields and grain fields for their crouisants that is government controlled agriculture. Their is no wildlife area in between at least not big enough for this many french people.

In holland it's cities, and cow fields all in between that is also government controlled.
In Germany, its their cities, low hill terrain, and only cabbage fields for their sauerkraud and factories in between.
Also their is no wildlife in western europe great enough for the european population to occupy it. And So I could go on about alot more european countries.

I think it's very good, very nice, and very cute that americans can discuss their ways to survive. A european site equivalent to this one would also involve the use of many other languages. And maybe I can get european help in quantitive information from this very site from either your reply or unnoticed guides and articles that I simply haven't been able to find myself.

I don't request a new or sub site. I didn't requested anything in this post. Other then asking for specific information.
To sum it up.
I would like to know european centered NWO news. I want to know more inside information about european banks and background politics. Just like infowars and prisonplanet does so for the USA.
I would like to know survival methods usefull in europe.
I would like to know, equivalent survival items or energy/water substitutes that are also available in europe.
I would like to know if theres a E-foods equivalent that ships to europe or is hosted in europe.
And one thing more specifically where to get good tongkat ali extract here in europe and other cleansing herbs and extracts.

and I hope there are some europeans out here that have made a self sustaining plan that can help me create my own.
I thank you for reading this much down the page and even more so for replying.

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 07:34:51 AM »

The problem lies in the money system and in the immature control thereof.
European men should look east for a mature, patriarchical model for wresting control over the monetary system and for demonetizing as a temporary, "stop-gap" measure.
The solution doesn't come in an "airlift" from across the ocean.
The solution doesn't come in a glamorous, glitzy Western package, but rather in a do-it-yourself "grey market".
What's working in a Western-nation setting is the old Orthodox religion (in Greece and in Russia).
The Orthodox church brings the people together and the clergy fights for the people.

The Orthodox church has a history of being good to the peasants.
Moscow is the "Third Rome".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Rome
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/third_rome_m_johnson.htm
http://www.lewrockwell.com/baltzersen/baltzersen18.html 
--Quote: "The purpose of The Third Rome is to alter the political universe of those who read it."
http://www.rense.com/general81/extr.htm

There is an element to American culture that never ceases to amuse me. Even when grappling with the idea of economic disintegration, Americans attempt to cast it in terms of technological or economic progress: eco-villages, sustainable development, energy efficiency and so on. Under the circumstances, such compulsive techno-optimism seems maladaptive. I love the new advances in organic farming, which I find fascinating and very useful, but why do people seem incapable of doing the simplest things without making them into projects, preferably ones that involve some element of new technology? Thousands of years of happy composting using heaps and pits are behind us: now we need bins - and plastic, oil-based ones at that!
Contrary to the impositions of the whiz-bang-blinded and the gadget-addled among us, living off the land is not about projects, or systems, or organizations, but about shovels and buckets and hoes, and it is not even so much about skills or techniques, as it is about habits. Yes, you too can pick up the healthy habits of growing and gathering your own food, storing it, cooking it, eating it, excreting it, and, yes, even composting the end result. The temporary bounty of fossil fuels has allowed a lot of the former peasants to live like nobles for a time - residing in mansions, moving about in carriages, and having people serve them. Once these sources of energy are depleted, many of these former peasants will be forced to revert back. They will once more have to live in huts, travel on foot, wield their ancestral scythes and sickles to provide their sustenance, and do their own chores.
But we are people, not voles, and mere subsistence is not enough. Village life is about growing food, but it is also about much more. It is about the sense of security that comes from knowing what you need and how to help yourself to it. And it is about the profound experience of beauty that only comes from direct, daily contact with nature. Finally, it is about the sense of eternity, of the timelessness that comes from knowing that nothing ever has to change unless you want it to: great empires may rise up and crumble all around you, but the village will abide.
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dtxqwqr_21gs3rt2&pli=1

There is a lot of discussion of ways to change the way money works, so that it can serve local needs instead of being one of the main tools for extracting wealth from local economies. But there is no discussion of why it is that money is generally necessary. That is simply assumed. There are communities that have little or no money, where there may be a pot of coin buried in the yard somewhere, for special occasions, but no money in daily use.
Lack of money makes certain things very difficult. Examples include gambling, loan sharking, extortion, bribery and fraud. It also makes it more difficult to hoard wealth, or to extract it out of a community and ship it somewhere else in a conveniently compact form. When we use money, we cede power to those who create money (by creating debt) and who destroy money (by cancelling debt). We also empower the ranks of people whose area of expertise is in the manipulation of arbitrary rules and arithmetic abstractions rather than in engaging directly with the physical world. This veil of metaphor allows them to mask appalling levels of violence, representing it symbolically as a mere paper-shuffling exercise. People, animals, entire ecosystems become mere numbers on a piece of paper. On the other hand, this ability to represent dissimilar objects using identical symbols causes a great deal of confusion. For instance, I have heard rather intelligent people declare that government funds, which have been allocated to making failed financial institutions look solvent, could be so much better spent feeding widows and orphans. There is no understanding that astronomical quantities of digits willed into existence and transferred between two computers (one at a central bank, another at a private bank) cannot be used to directly nourish anyone, because food cannot be willed into existence by a central banker or anyone else.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/06/definancialisation-deglobalisation.html

As you are learning to live with less and less money, you will inevitably find that the money system works to your disadvantage. If you have debt, it becomes harder and harder to make the payments. If you own property, it becomes harder and harder to afford the taxes. The money system takes a bite out of everything you do. But this is true only if your economic relationships are monetized – if they have monetary value and involve the exchange of money. As you try to reduce your dependence on the money economy, you will need to invent ways to demonetize your life, and that of the people around you.
Savings and personal property can be transformed into the stock in trade of human relationships, which then give rise to reciprocal flows of gifts and favors – efficient, private, and customized to personal needs. This requires a completely different mindset from that cultivated by the consumer society, which strives to standardize and reduce everything, including human relationships, to a client-server paradigm, in which money flows in one direction, while products and services flow in the opposite direction. Customer A gets the same thing as customer B, for the same price.
This is very inefficient from a personal perspective. Resources are squandered on new products whereas reused ones can work just as well. Everyone is forced to make do with mediocre, off-the-shelf products that are designed for planned obsolescence and do not suit them as well as one crafted to suit their specific needs. A commodity product can be manufactured on the opposite side of the planet, whereas a custom one is likely to be made locally, providing work for you and the people in your community. But this is also very efficient, from the point of view of extracting profits and concentrating wealth while depleting natural resources and destroying the environment. However, this is not the sort of efficiency you should be concerned with: it is not in your interest.
This, then, is the correct stance vis à vis the money economy. You should appear to have no money or significant possessions. But you should have access to resources, such as food, clothing, medicine, places to stay and work, and even money. What you do with your money is up to you. For example, you can simply misplace it, the way squirrels do with nuts and acorns. Or you can convert it into communal property of one sort or another. You should avoid getting paid, but you should accept gifts, and, of course, give gifts in return. You should never work for money, but always donate your time and effort charitably. You should have a minimum of personal possessions, but plenty to share with others. Developing such a stance is hard, but, once you do, life actually gets better. Moreover, by adopting such a stance, you become collapse-proof.
https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dtxqwqr_19gjjvp8
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 01:54:13 PM »

Dear Ymous,

I'm personally a spiritual believer, not persé a religious believer.
I'm not to sure whether Moscow is the third rome or not. You could claim it that if it sounds fancy.
I do believe and in someway know that the Orthodox church is the real christian faith and I honestly believe and also see that the roman christian and it's derivative houses are in essence christian aswell but rather corrupt on the inside.
So if I were to classify myself christian I would firstly move myself towards the Orthodox side of christendom. And trust me, nevertheless of the abundant values and knowledge the bible tells me I will never be a Christian. Im sure some lost souls out there would do good reading it. Imho, morality and living safely among every human comes from within and is to be preserved by the consent of all coming generations thereafter.
If people don't start young at independantly withdrawing spirituality or morality from within (which I believe is mostly determined by the atmosphere) then yes, it would be highly necessary to make them subject under teachings of religion. Although I would hope that global atmosphere and parenting would make young ones think spiritually by design which almost nobody does in the world these days. 

If christianity, islam or any packaged volume is to help people and society as a whole and I believe real religion does then I hail them to abide to it.

If I were to retreat the whiz bang, glamourous western package, gadget market here over in europe one of my first destinations might indeed be russia. Not just only for reasons I evaluated in my OP like the abundance of it's wildlife but also for it's culture and friendly records towards farmers and other labouring professions for that matter.

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I love the new advances in organic farming, which I find fascinating and very useful, but why do people seem incapable of doing the simplest things without making them into projects, preferably ones that involve some element of new technology? Thousands of years of happy composting using heaps and pits are behind us: now we need bins - and plastic, oil-based ones at that!

Oh, but I agree with you again. I do hate it's been cultivated only through projects rather then independant self farming. I want to add though that where I live in europe is a tight subburban with very tight street structures. On top of that it's general knowledge that european households have very small in some cases no gardens at their disposal. The argument of having "no garden available" accounts to my place actually.
And the average small gardens that some households in my country do possess are of so small size that I wonder if it could feed atleast 1 if not a whole familly in that house for one year.
So I cannot grow my own vegetables whereas many american or even russian households have quite a dozen square feet of dirt in their backyard.
Thats not in my country for the most part.
Local authority does rent vegetable/kitchen gardens a few miles out of town. But that really doesnt solve the demonitizing my life issue that you talk about on the bottom of your reply.
And I really don't know if those acres out of town that are not locally near agricultural soil are also sprayed with alluminium chemtrails.
For that matter, how do you even know what acres of lands are chemtrail free?
Are their charts I can investigate into where soil is covered in chemtrail or can I not?
If I were to grow vegetables over here I would need to do it secretely, and if caught by police I can close it down real quik for abuse of community land.
I've been on vacation to both russia and the united states and there's a real noticeable abudance over there and there of household gardens.
To be more specific as I havent pointed out, I live in the Netherlands.
This very reason of disability to grow food without supervision or restriction was my OP reason to use the term "living of the land" in it's most prehistoric sense.

So I have a disability in growing food, and maybe their are alternatives to be given to me by yourself or others perhaps. If so it would open me currently locked figurative doors. This is also the reason why I look for a organic food project or a european style E-foods equivalent.

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The temporary bounty of fossil fuels has allowed a lot of the former peasants to live like nobles for a time - residing in mansions, moving about in carriages, and having people serve them. Once these sources of energy are depleted, many of these former peasants will be forced to revert back. They will once more have to live in huts, travel on foot, wield their ancestral scythes and sickles to provide their sustenance, and do their own chores.

This is eventually going to happen either by loss of fossil fuels or systematical designed collapse using haarp, economy and such. They want to reduce world population by a tenth. If I were to have a garden and cities are out of food they will occupy my precious self grown garden leaving myself in hunger. It's a pessimistic thought, but Id like to look 10 steps ahead of the first step. If we are ever going to get towards step 10 in the globalist agenda which is when the globalists get ther decisive way my puny little cute garden will be overrun by anarchists.

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There is a lot of discussion of ways to change the way money works, so that it can serve local needs instead of being one of the main tools for extracting wealth from local economies. But there is no discussion of why it is that money is generally necessary. That is simply assumed. There are communities that have little or no money, where there may be a pot of coin buried in the yard somewhere, for special occasions, but no money in daily use.

It's arrogant to say because many do assume, but the way that money works is indeed utter bollocks.
I cannot get to mind why people in countries as greece and many others in this day and year are starving, rotting, dieng and fighting only because convential wisdom makes people assume the ways of "money" when all that will ever be able to save them is themselves to stop believing in it and conduct their own grey market. If government or the "ways of money" work against yourself you might aswell neglect it's whole existence IMHO.
But oh no, they'd rather die for the toilet paper.
The existence of controlled educational system and therefore the lack of basic information keeps peoples heads so far underground that they will go down for their designed intellectual lack.

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As you are learning to live with less and less money, you will inevitably find that the money system works to your disadvantage. If you have debt, it becomes harder and harder to make the payments. If you own property, it becomes harder and harder to afford the taxes. The money system takes a bite out of everything you do. But this is true only if your economic relationships are monetized – if they have monetary value and involve the exchange of money. As you try to reduce your dependence on the money economy, you will need to invent ways to demonetize your life, and that of the people around you.

This is basically why im interested in water purifiers and energy generators. Im looking for adequate ones myself ofcourse, if you have any feedback on quality products with european availability please share them with me. The demonitizing of my life by the use of these devices would really help me and it leaves the questions in my OP unanswered.

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This, then, is the correct stance vis à vis the money economy. You should appear to have no money or significant possessions. But you should have access to resources, such as food, clothing, medicine, places to stay and work, and even money. What you do with your money is up to you. For example, you can simply misplace it, the way squirrels do with nuts and acorns. Or you can convert it into communal property of one sort or another. You should avoid getting paid, but you should accept gifts, and, of course, give gifts in return. You should never work for money, but always donate your time and effort charitably. You should have a minimum of personal possessions, but plenty to share with others. Developing such a stance is hard, but, once you do, life actually gets better. Moreover, by adopting such a stance, you become collapse-proof.

That is indeed a collapse proof stance. I hope to make it there. I have just begun, I hope it's not to late to adapt in time. I hope you have Wink


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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 02:32:59 PM »

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We also empower the ranks of people whose area of expertise is in the manipulation of arbitrary rules and arithmetic abstractions rather than in engaging directly with the physical world. This veil of metaphor allows them to mask appalling levels of violence, representing it symbolically as a mere paper-shuffling exercise. People, animals, entire ecosystems become mere numbers on a piece of paper. On the other hand, this ability to represent dissimilar objects using identical symbols causes a great deal of confusion. For instance, I have heard rather intelligent people declare that government funds, which have been allocated to making failed financial institutions look solvent, could be so much better spent feeding widows and orphans. There is no understanding that astronomical quantities of digits willed into existence and transferred between two computers (one at a central bank, another at a private bank) cannot be used to directly nourish anyone, because food cannot be willed into existence by a central banker or anyone else.

This is so true. It makes countries as the USA and countries in Europe service lending platforms. And other countries as those of third world ones and countries like china and india mass producers and human plantation platforms to make the western service lending platforms scheme to continue.

It's the paper shuffling excercise and the manipulation of arbitrary rules to make this possible gap of human plantation and service lending a possible reality as you indirectly pointed out yourself. If people knew this they'd understand why that somalian guy makes 1000 nike shoes for 3 bucks a day.
More money shuffling occurs when the nike shoe is finally priced 250bucks a pair in our shopping malls. Then who other then the big marketeer profitted upon the rest of those 247 bucks? Nobody other then the marketeer IMHO and his criminal background friends ofcourse. Taxes are eventually also marketing profits. Because economy and politics have indeed become fascist.

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 12:07:03 PM »

Moscow, to me, represents the psychological and geographical shift in ethics, integrity, and uprightness.
The Antichrist is using war and money to deceive the immature in the Western system.
We can all be deceived and therefore need to concentrate wisely on how to best help with our efforts and energies (and survive).

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We still have not developed an effective language with which to articulate our critiques.  This, in turn, is because we ourselves are part of the machine and so we have difficulty defining its shape and its direction.  But even if we have this difficulty, there are societies of people on this planet who do not...
We have entered into a universe that has been re-formed by machines; we are a species that lives its life within mechanistic creations; our environment is a product of our minds.  Locked inside our cities and suburbs, working in our offices, controlling and conceptualizing nature as a raw material for our consumption, and now even including ourselves as raw material suitable for redevelopment, we are at one with the process.
Spiritualism is the highest form of political consciousness.
In the Absence of the Sacred: The Failure of Technology and the Survival of the Indian Nations [Paperback]. Jerry Mander (Author).  pp. 191-193.

http://www.amazon.com/Absence-Sacred-Failure-Technology-Survival/dp/0871565099

The disability to grow food may be partly due to an intentional centralization of resources and powers which occurred after WWII.
That is a trend which needs to be reversed.
Russia, thanks to its sheer size, represents a more successful failed centralization.
Greeks seem to be doing OK with an alternative currency.

Recently, in the U.S., Hurricane Sandy provided an object lesson as to how different elements in society will respond to a crisis.
The government did nothing, (besides arresting people trying to help).
The Red Cross asked only for cash donations and turned away other food or clothing donations and "untrained" personal assistance.
At the time of need, they provided cookies and hot chocolate, but no blankets or other food.
However, "Occupy Wall Street" came out of the woodwork and provided real assistance for which the people are truly thankful.
In looking for grass roots general organizations of this sort, this may be one of the best go-to types for referral and directory information.

Occupy Wall Street Contact Information:
Help & Directions: +1 (877) 881-3020
designated info helpline: 347 603 6258
General Inquiries general@occupywallst.org

Occupy Amsterdam:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Occupy-Amsterdam/303291493015911
http://www.occupystreams.org/
Yahoo Answers:
http://answers.yahoo.com
Meetup Groups:
http://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords=&userFreeform=the+netherlands&mcId=&mcName=&gcResults=The+Netherlands%3ANL%3Anull%3Anull%3Anull%3Anull%3Anull%3A52.132633%3A5.291266&categories=4&view=masonry&sort=default&radius=50&offset=0&psize=30&currentpage=1

Tongkat ali is available on amazon.com.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_scat_3764461_ln?rh=n%3A3764461%2Ck%3Atongkat+ali&keywords=tongkat+ali

In terms of devices to help demonetize one's life & get off the grid...
Energy Generators - Some time ago, I saw on the web that some remarkably good and cheap ones are being used in African and South American relief projects.
Water Purifiers - I don't know about this.
E-foods - I don't know about this; why not just buy canned foods?

I think there are other search terms which may help you to search for things about agriculture.
Here are some of the terms I found at meetup.com:
Survivalism, Permaculture, Natural Building, Green Home, Frugal Living, New Urbanism & Sustainable Development, Intentional Communities, Alternative Energy,
Permaculture, New Urbanism & Sustainable Development,
Natural Building, 11th Hour Action, Simplicity, Global Warming, Green Home
Homesteaders, Alternative Energy, New Urbanism & Sustainable Development,  
Car-Free, Animal Rights, Environment, Vegetarian, Organic, Critical Mass,
Simplicity, Fair Trade, Buy Local, Culture Circle.
Hydroponics.

There is also a Sustainable Communities Initiative called "Findhorn" in Scotland which does many of these things.
Findhorn Ecovillage is an experimental architectural community project based at The Park, in Moray, Scotland, near the village of Findhorn.   I watched a movie about Findhorn and I think they were doing something with aquaculture.

Here are some books on farming:
1. You Can Farm: The Entrepreneur's Guide to Start & Succeed in a Farming Enterprise [Paperback]
Joel Salatin (Author)
2. The Backyard Homestead: Produce all the food you need on just a quarter acre! [Paperback]
Carleen Madigan (Editor)
Much of this time was spent fantasizing about one day having a 1/10th or 1/4th acre homestead. During that time, the book was eye-opening as to what is possible with that little space. Having soaked up these ideas about raised beds, chickens, dwarf fruit trees, and so on for so long, when I finally got a house recently, I knew exactly what I wanted to do with it, which alone is probably worth the price of the book.
But now that I have fruit trees to prune and chicks to raise, I'm not looking to this book for information. For building raised beds, I'm using the instructions from
3. The Urban Homestead (Expanded & Revised Edition): Your Guide to Self-Sufficient Living in the Heart of the City (Process Self-reliance Series), which also details composting with worms, reducing your reliance on the energy grid, and using water more intelligently -things The Backyard Homestead doesn't even mention. Or take pruning. On page 111, "Pruning a Fruit Tree in Four Steps," Step 2 says "First shorten the branch to about a foot, then undercut the branch slightly before sawing it from above. Finally, saw off the stub, leaving a slight collar to promote good healing." These are just the kind of clear-as-mud directions that would greatly benefit from an illustration; unfortunately all that is there is a drawing of a man sawing a branch with a long-handled tool of some kind, nothing to show what exactly a collar is or how much of the remaining foot qualifies as the stub or even why he selected that particular branch. So for pruning, I attended a workshop presented by my local nursery, which was far more informative and has the advantage of pertaining entirely to where I live. Regarding chickens: There are some interesting points, like letting a fresh egg age in the fridge a week before hard-boiling so it won't be difficult to peel or selecting a dual-purpose (egg laying and meat) breed because they are more disease-resistant than specialized breeds, but nothing that will in anyway get you started.
For that I'm presently using the book
4. Chick Days: An Absolute Beginner's Guide to Raising Chickens from Hatching to Laying. For rabbits, you'll get two pages most of which just informs you that there are different breeds.
The only section of The Backyard Homestead that I was able to test out in my apartment days was the section on herb gardening. I killed all of them, until getting
5. Grow Great Grub: Organic Food from Small Spaces), which revealed why the rosemary survived but did not grow (too small a pot), why the basil died (unrelenting exposure to wind), how all of them could have benefited from mulch, and how to make simple plant foods. It also explained terms I had seen thrown around in several gardening books, like the warning to not let your plants "bolt" (which at the time I could only imagine involved my herbs running away to a more competent home). All those other books have unhelpful charts describing the exact conditions favored by each plant (type of soil, pH, full sun vs partial shade, etc) until you believe each plant should be grown in its own meticulously placed test tube. And I spent years thinking "partial shade" meant some kind of sparse, broken shade, like under a tree. Turns out the "partial" refers to time; 4-6 hours of direct sun per day compared to 8 hours of direct sun per day for "full sun." And
if you've always wanted to grow herbs, but wondered what you might do with them beyond cooking, then absolutely get
6. Making It: Radical Home Ec for a Post-Consumer World, a brilliant DIY book on everything from making your own shampoo to beer to how to slaughter a chicken (The Backyard Homestead refers you to other books for any slaughtering instructions).
By all means, get The Backyard Homestead. Pour over it for hours in a coffee shop/bathtub/Cracker Barrel/escape-of-your-choice. Gaze lovingly at the beautiful, orderly homestead layouts at the beginning of the book. But think of it more as a course catalogue for college, that thick book (if they still put those out) that lists every class a college offers along with a brief description for each, rather than as the classes themselves. Use it to sketch out which topics you'd like to study, then
find other resources (mentors, workshops, youtube demonstrations, books, meetup groups, feed stores, nurseries, magazines like
7. Urban Farm [magazine] and go from there.
I also bought
8. Backyard Homesteading: A Back-to-Basics Guide to Self-Sufficiency and that book didn't address any of that either. I'm not sure why they have elected to omit the information. As a side note, this book (the Back-to-Basics book) had an entire chapter on goats with a plan for building a milking platform and everything. Then it only had 3 paragraphs on sheep. That was deflating. But that's another book for another review.
Bats; ducks; chickens; Nigerian goats;

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Micro Agriculture (or) Biointensive agriculture is an organic agricultural system which focuses on maximum yields from the minimum area of land, while simultaneously improving and maintaining the fertility of the soil. The goal of the method is long term sustainability on a closed system basis. It is particularly effective for back-yard gardeners and smallholder farmers in developing countries, and has also been used successfully on small scale commercial farms.
Further reading...
John Jeavons, How to Grow More Vegetables: And Fruits, Nuts, Berries, Grains, and Other Crops Than You Ever Thought Possible on Less Land Than You Can Imagine ISBN 1-58008-233-5
Carol Cox, John Jeavons, The Sustainable Vegetable Garden: A Backyard Guide to Healthy Soil and Higher Yields ISBN 1-58008-016-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biointensive_agriculture
"John Jeavons: Blazing the Trail of Biointensive Agriculture"
--California grower and researcher John Jeavons has demonstrated that hand-dug, biointensive garden beds can produce yields two to six times higher than standard American agriculture while using only a fraction of the water, fertilizer and energy.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/sustainable-farming/john-jeavons-biointensive-agriculture-zmaz90jfzshe.aspx
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2012, 05:50:36 PM »

There is also an organic food projects directory, called WWOOF - World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms:
http://www.wwoofindependents.org/DesktopModules/phdcc.CodeModule/JCpreviewHosts.aspx?action=previewHosts&cy=NETHERLANDS
http://www.wwoof.org/
http://www.wwoof.org/europe.asp
http://www.wwoofindependents.org/

Intentional communities might also have something to offer.
One directory is the "Fellowship for Intentional Community: Communities Directory":
http://directory.ic.org/intentional_communities_Netherlands
http://directory.ic.org
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 11:58:09 PM »

A bit of a late reply but no need to re-excuse myself ofcourse.
I thank you kind-heartedly, obviously for all the information.
But even more so for the countless website links, agricultural terms and all the rest that I will all investigate into.
If I may have any more questions I might ask them later on.
But so far you have my biggest gratitude Wink
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