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SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:50:09 AM »
446 Children Shot This Year, 700 Last Year, Chicago Strongest Gun Laws In America Video
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 Chicago probably has the toughest gun laws in the country, yet despite all the shootings, murders, and bloodshed, you never hear a peep about this from the corrupt state run media.

In Chicago, nearly 700 children were hit by gunfire last year — an average of almost two a day — and 66 of them died. That number is up over the previous year, even though the overall number of homicides in Chicago fell last year to a 45-year low.


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14 year old- 39

13 year old- 21

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In Chicago, there have been 446 school age children shot in leftist utopia run by Rahm Emanuel and that produced Obama, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, etc. 62 school aged children have actually been killed by crazed nuts in Chicago so far this year with almost two weeks to go. So why isn’t this news worthy?

Is it because it would embarrass those anti second amendment nuts who brag about Chicago’s tough gun laws? Is it because most of the kids who were shot and killed were minorities?

Or is it because the corrupt media doesn’t want to show Chicago in a bad light? Amazingly, no Obama crocodile tears either. For those of you too dense to get the point of this post, it’s to make the point about gun laws.

No matter how tough the gun laws are, the crazed, nut jobs will find a way to get them and if they so chose, use them. No draconian law can stop this, no matter how well intentioned the law is, or if it’s just about leftists grabbing power from citizens and taking away their constitutional rights.

Several Korean store owners and staff head to the rooftops armed with rifles and shotguns during the 1992 LA riots.

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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 11:03:59 AM »
bump  needed the info
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 11:44:29 AM »
Gun Control Historical Atrocities‏

     In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control and from 1929 to 1953, 
     about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
     up and exterminated.
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     In 1911, Turkey established gun control and from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
     Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were r ounded up and exterminated.
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     Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
     13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
     rounded up and exterminated.
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     China established gun control in 1935 and from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
     dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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     Guatemala established gun control in 1964 and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000
     Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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     Uganda established gun control in 1970 and from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
     Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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     Cambodia established gun control in 1956 and from 1975 to 1977, one million
     educated' people, unable to defend themselves, w ere rounded up and
     exterminated.
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     Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
     because of gun control: 56 million.
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     It has now been 2 years since gun owners in Australia were forced by new
     law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own
     government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
     dollars.  The first year results are now in:
     
     List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
     Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
     Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
     In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
     percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
     criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
     While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
     armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past
     12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
     There has also been a dramatic increase in break- ins and assaults of the
     ELDERLY.  Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety
     has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense
     was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. 
    The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 11:45:41 AM »
Naomi Wolf on Colbert Report: Fascism in 10 Easy Steps
1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag (labor camp/political prison)
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law
-11- Grab the guns

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 11:46:42 AM »
14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism‏

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 11:47:37 AM »
26 Tenets of the New World Order:

1) Men are inclined to evil rather than good.

2) Preach Liberalism.

3) Use ideals of freedom to bring about class wars.

4) Any and all means necessary should be used to reach their goals as they are justified.

5) Believe their rights lie in force.

6) The power of their resources must remain invisible until the very moment that they have gained the strength so that no group or force can undermine it.

7) Advocates a mob psychology to obtain control of the masses

8 ) Promotes the use of alcohol, drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.

9) Seize citizens’ private property by any means necessary.

10) The use of slogans such as equity, liberty, and fraternity are used on the masses as psychological warfare.

11) War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences are designed so that neither combatant retain territory rights.

12) Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen to public office who would be obedient to their demands, and would be used as pawns in the game by the men behind the scenes. The advisors will have been bred, reared, and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.

13) Control the press, and hence most of the information the public receives.

14) Agents and provocateurs will come forward after creating traumatic situations, and appear to be the saviors of the masses, when they are actually interested in just the opposite, the reduction of the population.

15) Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food, use these events to control the masses and mobs, and use them to wipe out those who stand in the way.

16) Infiltrate Freemasonry which is to be used to conceal and further objectives.

17) Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases, advocate lavish sounding promises to the masses even though they can’t be kept.

18) The art of street fighting is necessary to bring the population into subjection.

19) Use agents as provocateurs and advisers behind the scenes, and after wars use secret diplomacy talks to gain control.

20) Establish huge monopolies towards world government control.

21) Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by controlling raw materials, organized agitation among the workers, and subsidizing competitors.

22) Build up armaments with police and soldiers who can protect and further the New World Order's interests.

23) Members and leaders of the one world government will be appointed by the director of the New World Order.

24) Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of teaching the youth in the schools theories and principles known to be false.

25) Create and use national and international laws to destroy civilization.

26) Use estrogens & femicals to drive males gay and the female population insane thereby insuring the destruction of the family, hence more governmental dependency.

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 11:50:16 AM »
I don't mean to spam but to re-post old info for new members so as to tie it all together in one post.

Good information but I am consolidating it for the time constrained members who need it as simple as 1-2-3....

A post is like an essay, and an essay should be like a woman's skirt, long enough to cover the subject but short enough to keep it interestng.

Alright !!!!!!!!!!!!!     ;)

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 12:02:33 PM »
Yep that dose not stop California making a report that supposed tough gun control states have less gun crime. They don't provide thier methodology or data, go figure. They claim they took the data from 2010 and 2011. Guess they didn't count Chicago or just averaged it in with Illinois.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 12:31:32 PM »
AJ said a minute ago that they are going ahead with the confiscation now, not in the near future of several years. He said that IW has DHS and Congressional sources that confirmed this.

AJ: They want to start the civil war nowIf you want to evacuate you better do it quick.

God help you over there.

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 12:33:32 PM »
* cat  falls off his cushion

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 12:43:17 PM »
Go to the drudgereport.com right now.  The proposed 2013 gun bill is linked there....  Pretty scary stuff.

fingerprints, photos, registration, etc.  Nowhere to hide.

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 12:48:52 PM »
Go to the drudgereport.com right now.  The proposed 2013 gun bill is linked there....  Pretty scary stuff.

fingerprints, photos, registration, etc.  Nowhere to hide.

Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons
Stay informed

In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2012, 12:59:29 PM »
C.  Your hammer hits the nail on the head!! Bumped+
     RIGHT: C-quote I don't mean to spam but to re-post old info for new members so as to tie it all together in one post.
               That, to me is the most important factor for the whole deal!

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2012, 01:04:49 PM »
TURN ON THE RADIO

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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2012, 01:16:36 PM »
WHO NEEDS THE SECOND AMENDMENT??
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/who-need-s-the-second-amendment/question-2476701/


SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING


Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns ? ? ? ?

For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been
buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are
Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R.; Some
people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the
firearms companies in the United States. If you control the manufacturers
you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control
guns.

Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned
by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.

Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the
most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns.
Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come
out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media? I would
think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance)

If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some
research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and
Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros .

Send this to every gun owner in America.

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2012, 01:19:15 PM »
The real Crocodile Dundee dies in police shootout
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/the-real-crocodile-dundee-dies-in-police-shootout-1110770.html

A RUGGED Australian rancher whose feats of survival in the Outback inspired the movie character Crocodile Dundee was killed in a shootout, policesaid yesterday.

From his hiding place in the bushes along a highway, Rodney William Ansell, 44, ambushed and killed Sergeant Glen Huitson. Another officer returned fire, killing Ansell, 30 miles south of the Northern Territory capital of Darwin. His barefoot body was found with two high-powered rifles.

Officers had spent the previous 12 hours searching for a man who had attacked a nearby house on Monday, injuring two people. Assistant police commissioner John Daulby said it was thought Ansell was responsible for that attack too.

Ansell became a local hero in 1977 after being swept out to sea and landing on a small island with nothing but wallabies and cattle to sustain him for two months. Only a visit by an Aboriginal tribe saved him. His exploits were celebrated in a book and a documentary film.

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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2012, 01:24:59 PM »

Title should say I'm an idiot  heres my sign!


As in another post I don't see any lines of people,  but heres the article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story




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Mall parking lots were packed with after-Christmas shoppers. But nowhere were the lines longer than at the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena and the Van Nuys Masonic Temple, where thousands of people came to exchange their guns for Ralphs gift cards.

Cars queued up for blocks at the drive-through events, with the city giving cards worth up to $100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and up to $200 for assault weapons. There was a bit of haggling involved, but the guns were all taken.

"What do you got?" an officer in Van Nuys asked a man in his late twenties as he pulled up in a green Mazda.

Photos: L.A. gun buyback

"Just one handgun, I've had it since high school," the man replied.

"Will you take $50 for this?"

"Sure."

Many came bearing more than one gun. They pulled 22 pistols from the trunk of one white Honda, a haul that earned the driver $1,000.

Two men in a pickup truck with two children in the back seat handed over a rifle, a pistol and a MAC-12, altered with a silencer.

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 01:28:28 PM »
The sooner they get to this level of tyranny, the better.  More of a chance they will lose then.  Once people figure out they're attacking the American people openly, there's no turning back.  I just hope enough of those that might be able to survive long enough, and are well equipped enough, know who the priorities are, and not get caught up with wasting their time with total puppets.  I can't tell you how many "bring it on" comments I've seen all over the place.


Title should say I'm an idiot  heres my sign!


As in another post I don't see any lines of people,  but heres the article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story

"CT gun buy back continues this week
Efforts to get guns off the sterets continue

Updated: Tuesday, 25 Dec 2012, 11:55 AM EST
Published : Tuesday, 25 Dec 2012, 11:55 AM EST

BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) - An effort in Bridgeport to get guns off the streets in the wake of the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown is continuing.

What's being billed as the largest gun buyback program in the city's history is scheduled to resume on Friday, from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m., and on Saturday, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.

Other buyback dates are planned for every Saturday in January, as needed.

Police will offer up to $200 for a working handgun and $75 for a working rifle. Assault-type rifles will be eligible for higher amounts.

Two local grocers are offering gift cards as incentives as well."

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 01:34:36 PM »
The real Crocodile Dundee dies in police shootout
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/the-real-crocodile-dundee-dies-in-police-shootout-1110770.html

A RUGGED Australian rancher whose feats of survival in the Outback inspired the movie character Crocodile Dundee was killed in a shootout, policesaid yesterday.

From his hiding place in the bushes along a highway, Rodney William Ansell, 44, ambushed and killed Sergeant Glen Huitson. Another officer returned fire, killing Ansell, 30 miles south of the Northern Territory capital of Darwin. His barefoot body was found with two high-powered rifles.

Officers had spent the previous 12 hours searching for a man who had attacked a nearby house on Monday, injuring two people. Assistant police commissioner John Daulby said it was thought Ansell was responsible for that attack too.

Ansell became a local hero in 1977 after being swept out to sea and landing on a small island with nothing but wallabies and cattle to sustain him for two months. Only a visit by an Aboriginal tribe saved him. His exploits were celebrated in a book and a documentary film.

Much has been posted here about the Government murder of Rod Ansell and others in the years after the Port Arthur False Flag that brought gun confiscation to Australia in 1996...

There is this post from 08-17-07... one week after we opened the doors of Prison Planet Forum for business.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1665.msg6693#msg6693

Here are others...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=108452.msg663327#msg663327

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239621.msg1391782#msg1391782

For more, search on "Rodney Ansell."

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2012, 01:57:06 PM »
“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India,
history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms,
as the blackest.”

Mahatma Ghandi

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2012, 01:59:26 PM »
Title should say I'm an idiot  heres my sign!


As in another post I don't see any lines of people,  but heres the article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story






Sad to see law abiding people turning in their guns.  Even sadder to see them turning in their guns for chump change.
Those who wish to remain ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, want what never was and what never will be.  - Thomas Jefferson

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2012, 02:23:00 PM »

Sad to see law abiding people turning in their guns.  Even sadder to see them turning in their guns for chump change.

Here's another...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/americans-turn-in-guns-after-school-massacre.html

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2012, 03:20:34 PM »
Banning gun really dose work..... for criminals and tyrants.
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2012, 03:29:36 PM »
I think you are probably right Dorrogeray...



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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2012, 03:38:42 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-insider-breaks-down-obamas-short-term-agenda/


DHS Insider Breaks Down Obama’s Short-term Agenda
                    
Douglas J. Hagmann
HomelandSecurityUS.com
December 27, 2012
After a lengthy, self-imposed informational black-out, my high-level DHS contact known as “Rosebud” emerged with new, non-public information about plans being discussed and prepared for implementation by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in the near future. It is important to note that this black-out was directly related to the aggressive federal initiative of identifying and prosecuting “leakers,” at least those leaks and leakers not sanctioned by the executive office – the latter of which there are many.
Due to those circumstances, my source exercised an abundance of caution to avoid compromising a valuable line of communication until he had information he felt was significant enough to risk external contact. The following information is the result of an in-person contact between this author and “Rosebud” within the last 48 hours. With his permission, the interview was digitally recorded and the relevant portions of the contact are provided in a conversational format for easier reading. The original recording was copied onto multiple discs and are maintained in secure locations for historical and insurance purposes.

Meeting

The following began after an exchange of pleasantries and other unrelated discussion:
DH: Do I have your permission to record this conversation?
RB: You do.
DH: I’ve received a lot of e-mail from people wondering where you went and why you’ve been so quiet.
RB: As I told you earlier, things are very dicey. Weird things began to happen before the election and have continued since. Odd things, a clampdown of sorts. I started looking and I found [REDACTED AT THE REQUEST OF THIS SOURCE], and that shook me up. I’m not the only one, though, that found a [REDACTED], so this means there’s surveillance of people within DHS by DHS. So, that explains this cloak and dagger stuff for this meeting.
DH: I understand. What about the others?
RB: They are handling it the same way.
DH: I’ve received many e-mails asking if you are the same person giving information to Ulsterman. Are you?
RB: No, but I think I know at least one of his insiders.
DH: Care to elaborate?
RB: Sorry, no.
DH: Do you trust him or her. I mean, the Ulsterman source?
RB: Yes.
DH: Okay, so last August, you said things were “going hot.” I printed what you said, and things did not seem to happen as you said.
RB: You’d better recheck your notes and compare [them] with some of the events leading up to the election. I think you’ll find that a full blown campaign of deception took place to make certain Obama got back into office. The polls, the media, and a few incidents that happened in the two months before the election. I guess if people are looking for some big event they can point to and say “aha” for verification, well then I overestimated people’s ability to tell when they are being lied to.
DH: What specific incidents are you referring to?
RB: Look at the threats to Obama. Start there. The accusations of racism. Then look at the polls, and especially the judicial decisions about voter ID laws. Bought and paid for, or where there was any potential for problems, the judges got the message, loud and clear. Then look at the voter fraud. And not a peep from the Republicans. Nothing. His second term was a done deal in September. This was planned. Frankly, the Obama team knew they had it sewn up long before election day. Benghazi could have derailed them, but the fix was in there, so I never saw anything on my end to suggest a ready-made solution had to be implemented.
DH: What’s going on now?
RB: People better pay close attention over the next few months. First, there won’t be any meaningful deal about the fiscal crisis. This is planned, I mean, the lack of deal is planned. In fact, it’ necessary to pave the way for what is in the short term agenda.
DH: Wait, you’re DHS – not some Wall Street insider.
RB: So you think they are separate agendas? That’s funny. The coming collapse of the U.S. dollar is a done deal. It’s been in the works for years – decades, and this is one of the most important cataclysmic events that DHS is preparing for. I almost think that DHS was created for that purpose alone, to fight Americans, not protect them, right here in America. But that’s not the only reason. There’s the gun issue too.
DH: So, what are you seeing at DHS?
RB: We don’t have a lot of time, tonight – our meeting – as well as a country. I mean I have heard – with my own ears – plans being made that originate from the White House that involve the hierarchy of DHS. You gotta know how DHS works at the highest of levels. It’s Jarrett and Napolitano, with Jarrett organizing all of the plans and approaches. She’s the one in charge, at least from my point of view, from what I am seeing. Obama knows that’s going on and has say, but it seems that Jarrett has the final say, not the other way around. It’s [screwed] up. This really went into high gear since the election.
But it’s a train wreck at mid management, but is more effective at the lower levels. A lot of police departments are being gifted with federal funds with strings attached. That money is flowing out to municipal police departments faster than it can be counted. They are using this money to buy tanks, well, not real tanks, but you know what I mean. DHS is turning the police into soldiers.
By the way, there has been a lot of communication recently between Napolitano and Pistole [TSA head]. They are planning to use TSA agents in tandem with local police for certain operations that are being planned right now. This is so [deleted] important that you cannot even begin to imagine. If you get nothing else out of this, please, please make sure you tell people to watch the TSA and their increasing involvement against the American public. They are the stooges who will be the ones to carry out certain plans when the dollar collapses and the gun confiscation begins.
DH: Whoa, wait a minute. You just said a mouthful. What’s the agenda here?
RB: Your intelligence insider – he knows that we are facing a planned economic collapse. You wrote about this in your articles about Benghazi, or at least that’s what I got out of the later articles. So why the surprise?
DH: There’s a lot here. Let’s take it step by step if you don’t mind.
RB: Okay, but I’m not going to give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps. This is what I am hearing. Life for the average American is going to change significantly, and not the change people expect. First, DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA to respond to civil uprisings that will happen when there is a financial panic. And there will be one, maybe as early as this spring, when the dollar won’t get you a gumball. I’m not sure what the catalyst will be, but I’ve heard rumblings about a derivatives crisis as well as an oil embargo. I don’t know, that’s not my department. But something is going to happen to collapse the dollar, which has been in the works since the 1990′s. Now if it does not happen as soon as this, it’s because there are people, real patriots, who are working to prevent this, so it’s a fluid dynamic. But that doesn’t change the preparations.
And the preparations are these: DHS is prepositioning assets in strategic areas near urban centers all across the country. Storage depots. Armories. And even detainment facilities, known as FEMA camps. FEMA does not even know that the facilities are earmarked for detainment by executive orders, at least not in the traditional sense they were intended. By the way, people drive by some of these armories everyday without even giving them a second look. Commercial and business real estate across the country are being bought up or leased for storage purposes. Very low profile.
Anyway, I am hearing that the plan from on high is to let the chaos play out for a while, making ordinary citizens beg for troops to be deployed to restore order. but it’s all organized to make them appear as good guys. That’s when the real head knocking will take place. We’re talking travel restrictions, which should no be a problem because gas will be rationed or unavailable. The TSA will be in charge of travel, or at least be a big part of it. They will be commissioned, upgraded from their current status.
They, I mean Jarrett and Obama as well as a few others in government, are working to create a perfect storm too. This is being timed to coincide with new gun laws.
DH: New federal gun laws?
RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources. Plans were made in the 90′s but were withheld. Now, it’s a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook., which, by the way and as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, you’ll be called a kook or worse.
DH: Sure
RB: But Sandy Hook, there’s something very wrong there. But I am hearing that won’t be the final straw. There will be another if they think it’s necessary.
DH: Another shooting?
RB: Yes.
DH: That would mean they are at least complicit.
RB: Well, that’s one way of looking at it.
DH: Are they? Were they?
RB: Do your own research. Nothing I say, short of bringing you photographs and documents will convince anyone, and even then, it’s like [DELETED] in the wind.
DH: So…
RB: So what I’m telling you is that DHS, the TSA and certain, but not all, law enforcement agencies are going to be elbow deep in riot control in response to an economic incident. At the same time or close to it, gun confiscation will start. It will start on a voluntary basis using federal registration forms, then an amnesty, then the kicking-in of doors start.
Before or at the same time, you know all the talk of lists, you know, the red and blue lists that everyone made fun of? Well they exist, although I don’t know about their colors. But there are lists of political dissidents maintained by DHS. Names are coordinated with the executive branch, but you know what? They did not start with Obama. They’ve been around in one form or another for years. The difference though is that today, they are much more organized. And I’ll tell you that the vocal opponents of the politics of the global elite, the bankers, and the opponents of anything standing in their way, well, they are on the top of the list of people to be handled.
DH: Handled?
RB: As the situations worsen, some might be given a chance to stop their vocal opposition. Some will, others won’t. I suppose they are on different lists. Others won’t have that chance. By that time, though, it will be chaos and people will be in full defensive mode. They will be hungry, real hunger like we’ve never experienced before. They will use our hunger as leverage. They will use medical care as leverage.
 DH:Will this happen all at once?
RB: They hope to make it happen at the same time. Big cities first, with sections being set apart from the rest of the country. Then the rural areas. There are two different plans for geographical considerations. But it will all come together.

End of Part I
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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2012, 03:47:45 PM »
Top Headline at Drudge----


   CIVIL WAR- SENATE TO GO FOR HANDGUNS


http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2012, 03:59:30 PM »
FROM THE ARTICLE ABOVE


DH: New federal gun laws?

RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources.
Plans were made in the 90′s but were withheld. Now, it’s a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook., which, by the way and as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, you’ll be called a kook or worse.
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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2012, 04:01:06 PM »
I read these yesterday and was thinking about posting them...  Here's the original link to part II of that interview.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2012, 04:05:02 PM »
I think you are probably right Dorrogeray...


Yes, Hagmann was emphatic about this... in order to pull off this "Fort Sumter" style event to provacateur their civil war they will need at least one more.

WE MUST REMAIN UNITED, EVEN IF YOU HATE GUNS, YOU MUST NOT LOWER YOURSELF TO HATE THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND CONSTITUTION AS WELL.

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Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and
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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2012, 04:13:46 PM »
I really do fear an even bigger event ......

So far they have copied the black op pulled on Britain and Australia, but America is a more problematic. I think they need something else to seal the fate of the 2nd Amendment.

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2012, 04:26:45 PM »
I really do fear an even bigger event ......

So far they have copied the black op pulled on Britain and Australia, but America is a more problematic. I think they need something else to seal the fate of the 2nd Amendment.


Actually, if we remain UNITED, the people and the States, and rally around the Constitution and the Republic it represents; through lawful petition and State nullification, the people will have the power to dismantle the globalist usurpation at the state level. If the globalists divide us, it will be Civil War 2.0 and the end of liberty throughout the world.

The States must unite against false-flag attempts by the federal criminals and their foreign agents around and among us if we hope to survive. Attacks anywhere in the Nation must be seen for exactly what they are… false-flag events to be blamed on the People of the united States of America, and our Constitution by the Crown bankers and their mercenaries.

“Firearms” is the issue they wish to divide us on this time. The globalists are engineering another dialectic using the Civil War “slavery” model to divide us, with rhetoric like, "If you support the 2nd Amendment you are racist."… Sandy Hook was the beginning, a Fort Sumter style event provocateured by them to demonize the Second Amendment… the Keystone of our Constitution and protector of our Unalienable Rights…

We are many and they are few.They hold the helm but we have the power. We must stay the course UNITED, holding on to our ship "Republic." We, it’s crew of millions, must remain together, whole and in tact embracing our Constitution.

Of the 240 to 300 million firearms we carry, only a few dozen have been wrongly used this past year. The shooters, mostly just children themselves, rendered to suggestibility by the enemy’s public indoctrination system, pharmaceuticals, and other more covert methods, programmed to enter the wrongfully created victim disarmament zones and begin killing. Then turning the arm on themselves when confronted.

The enemy at the helm, steering us toward the rocks, is magnifying these isolated acts of violence into Earth shattering catastrophes in their media, pounding the emotional dialectic 24/7 designed to fracture our opinions one against the other until we are at each others throats. This is the Civil War Model… Do not succumb to it my friends. If they disarm us they will systematically destroy us without fear of reprisal, taking for themselves all that we the People have invented, innovated, and created — these criminals are life destroying parasites.

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2012, 04:43:38 PM »
Top Headline at Drudge----


   CIVIL WAR- SENATE TO GO FOR HANDGUNS


http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

Drudge battlecruiser has entered the fray all guns blazing.

Side's are being chosen..

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2012, 04:58:33 PM »
Sounds as if this man is giving us a warning, the bow broke and the craddle fell.
 FF's have been aimed at the unarmed / innocents. The loons on the loose with semi's, the medias stuffing it down our throats, just as they did 911.
 911 was their key to the bag of tricks, the wars are the frosting on their cake, FF's of late are for one reason only, disarmament.
Our dear OLE Gov. controlls, energy/comminications/water/agriculture/transportation/medical care/money/ in short our means of existance.
 For them to bring about the ban of semi autos it would require another slaughter of innocents or killing a public figure (singular or in mass).
JFK took on the Federal Reserve and was in the process of ending the Vietnam war, his assassination was THE message sent to the aristocracy, politicians, public figures/ gov emplyees, etc, etc. Don't even think about rating us out or end up like the 3 K's.
 Rosebud c/o Doug Hagmann,  warned us, though I figure we had it nailed down for some time, but it's nice to see an insider spill it.                                                 Buckle up.
 

 

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2012, 04:58:37 PM »
Just been told that the latest headline at Drudge is :

"CIVIL WAR- SENATE TO GO FOR HANDGUNS"



It is just the headline that has changed.
Comments plz.

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2012, 05:00:57 PM »
This is the time infowarriors!  >:(

If we let them get away with this part of the agenda in the infowar, it is all over. All hopes for soft landing will be gone.

Lets show them 1776 in the INFOWAR!

Let's make sure that their Facebook censorship will backfire!

This is the tipping point - if they fail to cram this bullsh*t down the public throats, their whole thing will come crashing down like a house of cards.

There is no way back for them. They have to take the guns and they have to do it fast, because they are loosing the infowar longterm.



Also note that Max Keiser's bold prediction of financial crash in April/May coincides with what the DHS source was saying in the interview.

The noose is getting tighter.. if Max Keiser is correct, they will jump by leaps with all this in the next several moths. The perfect storm.

Gun confiscation in the fog of economic collapse and media hyped shootings. And don't forget Iran.


Remember Bush? Here is updated version: Either you are with DHS, or you are with the terrorists. ;)



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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2012, 05:32:38 PM »

Remember Bush?
Here is updated version:

Either you are with DHS, or you are with the terrorists. ;)


 ;D

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2012, 05:34:15 PM »
Actually, if we remain UNITED, the people and the States, and rally around the Constitution and the Republic it represents; through lawful petition and State nullification, the people will have the power to dismantle the globalist usurpation at the state level. If the globalists divide us, it will be Civil War 2.0 and the end of liberty throughout the world.

The States must unite against false-flag attempts by the federal criminals and their foreign agents around and among us if we hope to survive. Attacks anywhere in the Nation must be seen for exactly what they are… false-flag events to be blamed on the People of the united States of America, and our Constitution by the Crown bankers and their mercenaries.

“Firearms” is the issue they wish to divide us on this time. The globalists are engineering another dialectic using the Civil War “slavery” model to divide us, with rhetoric like, "If you support the 2nd Amendment you are racist."… Sandy Hook was the beginning, a Fort Sumter style event provocateured by them to demonize the Second Amendment… the Keystone of our Constitution and protector of our Unalienable Rights…

We are many and they are few.They hold the helm but we have the power. We must stay the course UNITED, holding on to our ship "Republic." We, it’s crew of millions, must remain together, whole and in tact embracing our Constitution.

Of the 240 to 300 million firearms we carry, only a few dozen have been wrongly used this past year. The shooters, mostly just children themselves, rendered to suggestibility by the enemy’s public indoctrination system, pharmaceuticals, and other more covert methods, programmed to enter the wrongfully created victim disarmament zones and begin killing. Then turning the arm on themselves when confronted.

The enemy at the helm, steering us toward the rocks, is magnifying these isolated acts of violence into Earth shattering catastrophes in their media, pounding the emotional dialectic 24/7 designed to fracture our opinions one against the other until we are at each others throats. This is the Civil War Model… Do not succumb to it my friends. If they disarm us they will systematically destroy us without fear of reprisal, taking for themselves all that we the People have invented, innovated, and created — these criminals are life destroying parasites.

JTCoyoté


Well said. But I don't think that states will do anything about this. It is up to every single US citizen to stand up for what your country was founded on, or perish soon after.

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Re: SENATE TO GO FOR GUNS + + RED ALERT + + DRUDGE
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2012, 05:37:04 PM »
WATCH ALL THE CONGRESSMEN! ANYONE WHO GOES ALONG WITH FEINSTEIN AND HER GUN BAN LEGISLATION NEEDS TO BE PUT ON A LIST, AND RUN OUT OF CONGRESS, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES!

THIS IS THE LAST STRAW! THESE PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING TREASON!



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