SHOOTING: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged -- [Sandy Hook]

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Offline Sasha

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  Taking down Eric Holders competition. I wish I could wiggle the OLE flag and feel my hair sticking up, all warm and fuzzy shiite, sorry guys, it  doesn't work anymore. but the truth does. In fact its like a breath of air after being water boarded.
  Don't get me wrong, I luv the way its suppose to be, not the way it is.

They are really not very creative are they.  I doubt the NWO has had an original thought since the British round table died off.  Their flounderings might be one of the main reasons their agenda is clumbsily revealing itself; that agenda likely to have been much further along than they are right now.  Alex Jones has said this many times too, the ones running the NWO now are a pale shadow of their formers.
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The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Take a look at this -



The kid on the left is supposed to be the grieving brother of Victoria Soto and the kid on the right side is a relation (son?) to a man named Leon Greenberg. The image on the right side is a screenshot taken directly from Leon Greenberg's facebook page which has since been deactivated. Leon is the brother of the woman already identified as playing the role of Laura Phelps from the CNN interview. We now have three positive identifications of Sandy Hook imposters tracing back to the Sexton/Greenberg clan: Richard Sexton as Nick Phelps, Jennifer Greenberg Sexton as his wife Laura Phelps and this kid here who appears to be the son of Leon Greenberg.

The whole thing is as baffling as they come.

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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #762 on: December 24, 2012, 10:15:40 pm »
That now makes three positive matches - Richard and Jennifer Greenberg Sexton posing as Sandy Hook parents Nick and Laura Phelps and now a relation of Leon Greenberg (son?) posing as a brother of victim Vicki Soto.

What about Samantha?
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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #763 on: December 24, 2012, 11:09:31 pm »
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What about Samantha?

Not sure where she fits in yet, if at all. Maybe one of the Soto sisters as some have speculated? The young man in the Leon Greenberg Facebook photo album is most definitely the alleged Soto brother. It's not even debatable.

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This Christmas Eve I would simply like to extend my overwhelming gratitude to all of you on this thread for all of your hard work and excellent insights.  I've never seen the propaganda train fly off the track this quickly in my life, and I'm almost 55.  We've had a major hand in that, however greatly our efforts may have been facilitated by the clumsiness of the pre-scripted press coverage and governmental response.

Congrats to all of us, with special mention to Dr. H. Wayne Carver, Chief Medical Examiner of the State of Connecticut, for his life-risking honesty and professionalism.

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School shooting is now a proven false flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0UtMWzCoVE#!
 A must see ground breaking video.

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School shooting is now a proven false flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0UtMWzCoVE#!
 A must see ground breaking video.

Christopher Greene of AMTV pushes the LIBOR thing as fact in this video. Almost stopped the video at that point. The rest is speculation/opinion. No new evidence presented.
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Is this why Newtown was the target?

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/dec/23/jack-mcelroy-hard-to-find-any-agreement-on-guns/
....the National Shooting Sports Foundation sued to stop the ATF, arguing it was overstepping its authority.
The NSSF is the advocacy group that represents the firearms industry. After the NRA, it's possibly the most important gun lobby. On its board are representatives of all the major businesses that directly profit from gun and ammo sales — although you can't tell that now by the organization's website.
NSSF is headquartered in Newtown, Conn.....

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Been trying to vet a couple of television faces. A Robbie Parker is listed at the Danbury Hospital site but references “location” as Onsite Neonatal in Voorhees, NJ. Awfully long commute. IDK, maybe the hospital subcontracted?

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Robert Parker, PA-C
Specialties
·   Neonatal-Perinatal Medicine
Certifications
·   Physician Assistant - Certified (PA-C)
Onsite Neonatal, PC
1000 Haddonfield Berlin Road
Voorhees, NJ 08043
Directions

(856) 782-2212 - Phone

http://www.danburyhospital.org/Doctors/P/Robert-Parker-254532

State of Connecticut shows valid credentials for a Robert Parker

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Name
ROBERT K PARKER PA-C

License Information
License Type--License Number--Expiration Date--Granted Date--License Name--License Status--Licensure Actions or Pending Charges
Physician Assistant--2659--01/31/2013--09/28/2011--ROBERT K PARKER PA-C--ACTIVE--None

https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/PrintLicenseDetails.aspx?cred=1034277&contact=1282035

But has no listing for school nurse Sally Cox.

I also have not been able to confirm that the face on TV that the media says is Robbie Parker is the same as the Danbury PA in the databases.

In the meantime, I’m amazed at how many Texas A&M fans live in Newtown.





It’s been over 10 days since the initial news reports. Many of the websites with faculty info have been updated now with either no cache or recent cache.
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You guys & gals are not to be taken in by their BS. Bless your hearts, mind and souls.
 Problem, the GP eats up the cover storys (fables) as if it was God speaking.
 

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So what gesture is the old man in the photo flashing? Devil Horns?

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We have been told that Lanza was a shy loner.  But here's an overlooked reference that contradicts that:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/16/details-emerge-of-adam-lanza-s-life-at-school-and-home.html
"The investigation also uncovered a video of Lanza shooting guns with friends, according to Dr. H. Wayne Carver, the state of Connecticut’s chief medical examiner."

Who are these unnamed friends?  Are they fellow 'goths,' referencing the attire Lanza was known to affect, as least for a time?

And then there is this little gem:

...“My sister went to high school with him,” said Madeline Fletcher, 16. “He was known around the school as the kid who wore a trench coat.”

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Lanza was a member of Newtown's own little 'trenhcoat mafia,' referring to the infamous gang that was behind the shooting at Denver's Columbine high school in 1999.  We know that Lanza was under intense observation since entering high school.  What was the school district's reaction to Adam's new fashion accessory?  Is this the real reason he was red flagged by the school security guy?

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You guys & gals are not to be taken in by their BS. Bless your hearts, mind and souls.
 Problem, the GP eats up the cover storys (fables) as if it was God speaking.
 

Amen!

And let's never forget that weeding out the conspiracy disinfo is every bit as important as seeing through the official narrative, as we must be absolutely certain of our facts so that our version of the narrative can withstand any attack.  I often say that the scientific method primarily involves the exclusion of error on the basis of observation.  I'm amazed at how well so many on this forum have done at attaining precisely that goal.

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This subject is not covered in this article but, the article made me think to ask... "Were there ANY 'injured' students?  If not... In a school of 600 not ONE injury?  What are the odds not ONE injured with a guy spraying bullets everywhere?  The article does point out inconsistencies with the injured staff members however.
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The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre.

[My staff] and I hope the people of Newtown don’t have it crash on their head later.” –Connecticut Medical Examiner D. Wayne Carver II, MD, December 15, 2012

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre. The public’s general acceptance of the event’s validity and faith in its resolution suggests a deepened credulousness borne from a world where almost all news and information is electronically mediated and controlled. The condition is reinforced through the corporate media’s unwillingness to push hard questions vis-à-vis Connecticut and federal authorities who together bottlenecked information while invoking prior restraint through threats of prosecutorial action against journalists and the broader citizenry seeking to interpret the event on social media.

Along these lines on December 19 the Connecticut State Police assigned individual personnel to each of the 26 families who lost a loved one at Sandy Hook Elementary. “The families have requested no press interviews,” State Police assert on their behalf, “and we are asking that this request be honored.[1] The de facto gag order will be in effect until the investigation concludes—now forecast to be “several months away” even though lone gunman Adam Lanza has been confirmed as the sole culprit.[2]

With the exception of an unusual and apparently contrived appearance by Emilie Parker’s alleged father, victims’ family members have been almost wholly absent from public scrutiny.[3] What can be gleaned from this and similar coverage raises many more questions and glaring inconsistencies than answers. While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.

The Accidental Medical Examiner

An especially important yet greatly underreported feature of the Sandy Hook affair is the wholly bizarre performance of Connecticut’s top medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II at a December 15 press conference. Carver’s unusual remarks and behavior warrant close consideration because in light of his professional notoriety they appear remarkably amateurish and out of character.

H. Wayne Carver II has an extremely self-assured, almost swaggering presence in Connecticut state administration. In early 2012 Carver threatened to vacate his position because of state budget cuts and streamlining measures that threatened his professional autonomy over the projects and personnel he oversaw.

Along these lines the pathologist has gone to excessive lengths to demonstrate his findings and expert opinion in court proceedings. For example, in a famous criminal case Carver “put a euthanized pig through a wood chipper so jurors could match striations on the bone fragments with the few ounces of evidence that prosecutors said were on the remains of the victim.”[4] One would therefore expect Carver to be in his element while identifying and verifying the exact ways in which Sandy Hook’s children and teachers met their violent demise.

Yet the H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen. The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters’ astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter. While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA

With this in mind extended excerpts from this exchange are worthy of recounting here in print. Carver is accompanied by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance and additional Connecticut State Police personnel. The reporters are off-screen and thus unidentified so I have assigned them simple numerical identification based on what can be discerned of their voices.

Reporter #1: So the rifle was the primary weapon?

H. Wayne Carver: Yes.

Reporter #1: [Inaudible]

Carver: Uh (pause). Question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know—I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don’t make me answer [sic]—so [nervous laughter]. I’ll let the police do that for you.

Reporter #2: Doctor can you tell us about the nature of the wounds. Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?

Carver: Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds apiece and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that’s, uh y’know, a sample. Uh, I really don’t have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.

[Given that Carver is Connecticut’s top coroner and in charge of the entire postmortem this is a startling admission.-JT]

Reporter #3: But you said that the long rifle was used?

Carver: Yes.

Reporter #3: But the long rifle was discovered in the car.

State Police Lieutenant Vance: That’s not correct, sir.

Unidentified reporter #4: How many bullets or bullet fragments did you find in the autopsy. Can you tell us that?

Carver: Oh. I’m lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don’t know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh … the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy—this is very clinical. I shouldn’t be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in [the tissue].

[In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets averaging 3,000 feet-per-second, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.]

Reporter #5: How close were the injuries?

Carver: Uh, all the ones (pause). I believe say, yes [sic].

Reporter #6: In what shape were the bodies when the families were brought to check [inaudible].

Carver: Uh, we did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them, uhm, of their facial features. We have, uh, uh—it’s easier on the families when you do that. Un, there is, uh, a time and place for the up close and personal in the grieving process, but to accomplish this we thought it would be best to do it this way and, uh, you can sort of, uh … You can control a situation depending on the photographer, and I have very good photographers. Uh, but uh—

Reporter #7: Do you know the difference of the time of death between the mother in the house and the bodies recovered [in the school].

Carver: Uh, no, I don’t. Sorry [shakes head excitedly] I don’t! [embarrassed laugh]

Reporter #8: Did the gunman kill himself with the rifle?

Carver: No. I—I don’t know yet. I’ll-I’ll examine him tomorrow morning. But, but I don’t think so.

[Why has Carver left arguably the most important specimen for last? And why doesn't he think Lanza didn't commit suicide with the rifle?]

Reporter #9: In terms of the children, were they all found in one classroom or—

Carver: Uhm … [inaudible] [Turns to Lieutenant Vance] Paul and company will deal with that.

Reporter #9: What?

Carver: Paul and company will deal with that. Lieutenant Vance is going to handle that one.

Reporter #10: Was there any evidence of a struggle? Any bruises?

Carver: No.

Reporter #11: The nature of the shooting; is there any sense that there was a lot of care taken with precision [inaudible] or randomly?

Carver: [Exhales while glancing upward, as if frustrated] Both. It’s a very difficult question to answer … You’d think after thousands of people I’ve seen shot but I … It’s … If I attempted to answer it in court there’d be an objection and then they’d win—[nervous laughter].

[Who would win? Why does an expert whose routine job as a public employee is to provide impartial medical opinion concerned with winning and losing in court? Further, Carver is not in court but rather at a press conference.]

Reporter #12: Doctor, can you discuss the fatal injuries to the adults?

Carver: Ah, they were similar to those of the children.

Reporter #13: Doctor, the children you had autopsied, where in the bodies were they hit?

Carver: Uhm [pause]. All over. All over.

Reporter #14: Were [the students] sitting at their desks or were they running away when this happened?

Carver: I’ll let the guys who—the scene guys talk—address that issue. I, uh, obviously I was at the scene. Obviously I’m very experienced in that. But there are people who are, uh, the number one professionals in that. I’ll let them—let that [voice trails off].

Reporter [#15]: How many boys and how many girls [were killed]?

Carver: [Slowly shaking his head] I don’t know.

More Unanswered Questions and Inconsistencies

In addition to Carver’s remarks several additional chronological and evidentiary contradictions in the official version of the Sandy Hook shooting are cause for serious consideration and leave doubt in terms of how the event transpired vis-à-vis the way authorities and major media outlets have presented it. It is now well known that early on journalists reported that Adam Lanza’s brother Ryan Lanza was reported to be the gunman, and that pistols were used in the shooting rather than a rifle. Yet these are merely the tip of the iceberg.

When Did the Gunman Arrive?
After Adam Lanza fatally shot and killed his mother at his residence, he drove himself to the elementary school campus, arriving one half hour after classes had commenced. Dressed in black, Lanza proceeds completely unnoticed through an oddly vacant parking lot with a military style rifle and shoots his way through double glass doors and a brand new yet apparently poorly engineered security system.

Further, initial press accounts suggest how no school personnel or students heard gunshots and no 911 calls are made until after Lanza begins firing inside the facility. “It was a lovely day,” Sandy Hook fourth grade teacher Theodore Varga said. And then, suddenly and unfathomably, gunshots rang out. “I can’t even remember how many,” Varga said.[5]

The recollection contrasts sharply with an updated version of Lanza’s arrival where at 9:30AM he

walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors. The thunderous sound of Lanza blowing an opening big enough to walk through the locked school door caused Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach to bolt from a nearby meeting room to investigate. He shot and killed them both as they ran toward him.

Breaching the school’s security system in such a way would have likely triggered some automatic alert of school personnel. Further, why would the school’s administrators run toward an armed man who has just noisily blasted his way into the building?

Two other staff members attending the meeting with Hocksprung and Scherlach sustained injuries “in the hail of bullets” but returned to the aforementioned meeting room and managed a call to 911.[6] This contrasted with earlier reports where the first 911 call claimed students “were trapped in a classroom with the adult shooter who had two guns.”[7] Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone “thinks there’s someone shooting in the building.”[8] There is a clear distinction between potentially hearing shots somewhere in the building and being almost mortally caught in a “hail of bullets.”

How did the gunman fire so many shots in such little time?
According to Dr. Carver and State Police, Lanza shot each victim between 3 and 11 times during a 5 to 7 minute span. If one is to average this out to 7 bullets per individual—excluding misses—Lanza shot 182 times, or once every two seconds. Yet according to the official story Lanza was the sole assassin and armed with only one weapon. Thus if misses and changing the gun’s 30-shot magazine at least 6 times are added to the equation Lanza must have been averaging about one shot per second—extremely skilled use of a single firearm for a young man with absolutely no military training and who was on the verge of being institutionalized. Still, an accurate rendering of the event is even more difficult to arrive at because the chief medical examiner admittedly has no idea exactly how the children were shot or whether a struggle ensued.

Where is the Photo and Video Evidence?  Everyone's has asked this question with NO answers.
Photographic and video evidence is at once profuse yet lacking in terms of its capacity to demonstrate that a mass shooting took place on the scale described by authorities. For example, in an era of ubiquitous video surveillance of public buildings especially no visual evidence of Lanza’s violent entry has emerged. And while studio snapshots of the Sandy Hook victims abound there is little if any eyewitness testimony of anyone who’s observed the corpses except for Carver and his staff, and they appear almost as confused about the conditions of the deceased as any layperson watching televised coverage of the event. Nor are there any routine eyewitness, photo or video evidence of the crime scene’s aftermath—broken glass, blasted security locks and doors, bullet casings and holes, bloodied walls and floors—all of which are common in such investigations and reportage.

Why Were Medical Personnel Turned Away From the Crime Scene?
Oddly enough medical personnel are forced to set up their operation not at the school where the dead and injured lay, but rather at the fire station several hundred feet away. This flies in the face of standard medical operating procedure where personnel are situated as close to the scene as possible. There is no doubt that the school had ample room to accommodate such personnel. Yet medical responders who rushed to Sandy Hill Elementary upon receiving word of the tragedy were denied entry to the school and forced to set up primary and secondary triages off school grounds and wait for the injured to be brought to them.

Shortly after the shooting “as other ambulances from neighboring communities rolled up, sirens blaring, the first responders slowly realized that their training would be tragically underutilized on this horrible day. ‘You may not be able to save everybody, but you damn well try,’” 44 year old emergency medical technician James Wolff told NBC News. “’And when (we) didn’t have the opportunity to put our skills into action, it’s difficult.’”[9]

In light of this, who were the qualified medical practitioners pronounced the 20 children and 7 adults dead? Who decided that none could be revived? Carver and his staff are apparently the only medical personnel to have attended to the victims—yet this was in the postmortem conducted several hours later. Such slipshod handling of the crime scene leaves the State of Connecticut open to a potential array of hefty civil claims by families of the slain.

Did a mass evacuation of the school take place?
Sandy Hook Elementary is attended by 600 students. Yet there is no photographic or video evidence of an evacuation on this scale. Instead, limited video and photographic imagery suggest that a limited evacuation of perhaps at most several dozen students occurred.

A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others’ shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill that took place prior to the event itself.[10] Most other photos are portraits of individual children. Despite aerial video footage of the event documenting law enforcement scouring the scene and apprehending one or more suspects in the wooded area nearby the school,[11] there is no such evidence that a mass exodus of children from the school transpired once law enforcement pronounced Sandy Hook secure. Nor are there videos or photos of several hundred students and their parents at the oft-referenced fire station nearby where students were routed for parent pick up.

Sound Bite Prism and the Will to Believe

Outside of a handful of citizen journalists and alternative media commentators Sandy Hill’s dramatically shifting factual and circumstantial terrain has escaped serious critique because it is presented through major media’s carefully constructed prism of select sound bites alongside a widespread and longstanding cultural impulse to accept the pronouncements of experts, be they bemused physicians, high ranking law enforcement officers, or political leaders demonstrating emotionally-grounded concern.

Political scientist W. Lance Bennett calls this the news media’s “authority-disorder bias.” “Whether the world is returned to a safe, normal place,” Bennett writes, “or whether the very idea of a normal world is called into question, the news is preoccupied with order, along with related questions of whether authorities are capable of establishing or restoring it.”[12]

Despite Carver’s bizarre performance and law enforcement authorities’ inability to settle on and relay simple facts, media management’s impulse to assure audiences and readerships of the Newtown community’s inevitable adjustment to its trauma and loss with the aid of the government’s protective oversight—however incompetent that may be—far surpasses a willingness to undermine this now almost universal news media narrative with messy questions and suggestions of intrigue. This well-worn script is one the public has been conditioned to accept. If few people relied on such media to develop their world view this would hardly be a concern. Yet this is regrettably not the case.

The Sandy Hook tragedy was on a far larger scale than the past year’s numerous slaughters, including the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting and the Batman theater shooting in Colorado. It also included glaringly illogical exercises and pronouncements by authorities alongside remarkably unusual evidentiary fissures indistinguishable by an American political imagination cultivated to believe that the corporate, government and military’s sophisticated system of organized crime is largely confined to Hollywood-style storylines while really existing malfeasance and crises are without exception returned to normalcy.

If recent history is a prelude the likelihood of citizens collectively assessing and questioning Sandy Hook is limited even given the event’s overtly superficial trappings. While the incident is ostensibly being handled by Connecticut law enforcement, early reports indicate how federal authorities were on the scene as the 911 call was received. Regardless of where one stands on the Second Amendment and gun control, it is not unreasonable to suggest the Obama administration complicity or direct oversight of an incident that has in very short order sparked a national debate on the very topic—and not coincidentally remains a key piece of Obama’s political platform.

The move to railroad this program through with the aid of major media and an irrefutable barrage of children’s portraits, “heartfelt” platitudes and ostensible tears neutralizes a quest for genuine evidence, reasoned observation and in the case of Newtown honest and responsible law enforcement. Moreover, to suggest that Obama is not capable of deploying such techniques to achieve political ends is to similarly place ones faith in image and interpretation above substance and established fact, the exact inclination that in sum has brought America to such an impasse.

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When you mix 'lunatics in authority' with the 'Milgram Effect' (societal obedience to authority) you have a very deadly combination on your hands.

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Amen!

And let's never forget that weeding out the conspiracy disinfo is every bit as important as seeing through the official narrative, as we must be absolutely certain of our facts so that our version of the narrative can withstand any attack.  I often say that the scientific method primarily involves the exclusion of error on the basis of observation.  I'm amazed at how well so many on this forum have done at attaining precisely that goal.

Wise words. Every black op since the JFK assassination has had layers of disinfo pre-positioned before the op was even executed. The perpetrators can then hide behind a fog of confusion, leading independent researchers around in circles for years while they sip their pina coladas and smoke expensive cigars. By the time anyone figures out what really happened, they are old and grey.

On the other hand, sometimes they get too arrogant and slip up, leaving many pieces of evidence behind. This could be what we are seeing here.

One thing is for sure - the official lone gunman story is a crock of you know what. We all agree on that.

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I think the article which you posted may be missing the point concerning Dr. Carver.

It does, indeed, appear as though he was under coercion, just as Dr. Thomas Noguchi was threatened prior to his giving evidence in the case against Sirhan Sirhan regarding the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy.  But Dr. Carver, like Dr. Noguchi, never wavered in his recitation of the facts which he observed.  It was the state police officer who jumped in and said that the rifle wasn't found in the car, which statement completely astounded the journalist, who had been hearing throughout the day that the rifle had been found in the car (this bit, in itself, being an important item of evidence in this case).  When asked about injuries, Dr. Carver could only testify as to his personal observation from the autopsies he'd personally performed: seven out of twenty-eight.  Scientific professionalism, and not uncertainty nor amateurishness, may account for his unwillingness to publicly state facts not personally observed by him.  Dr. Carver was clearly referring to hollow-point bullets in his discussion of energy being imparted to the tissues and not remaining within the bullet to the extent allowing through-transit.

Concerning contact between the bodies of the deceased and the families, I'm currently in the process of a major study of the Hillsborough Disaster of 1989 and the Hartford, Connecticut Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus fire of 1944, and one of the major points I intend to make is that limiting physical contact between the bodies of the living and the dead is a proper procedure geared towards preserving the evidentiary value of the bodies by preventing excessive warming which might lead to faulty results in subsequent laboratory examinations.  I realize that this statement might sound rather cold and detached, but cold and detached is precisely the attitude one must adopt in order to seek full justice on behalf of those who can only speak through the evidence which their dead bodies can provide.

It's very easy to make someone who knows what he's talking about look like an idiot or a crook in the eyes of those who lack his knowledge, and I'm afraid the author of the article which you posted has fallen into that trap.  It takes a long time to perform a proper autopsy, and seven in one day is a very long day indeed, with some results possibly not even being available to the medical examiner for months.

I think Dr. Carver was a proper hero in this matter, while merely doing his job properly.  This is a VERY serious matter we're dealing with here, and we'd best know what we're talking about before we present our information in public.  I am a lawyer, which makes me the guy that has to walk into a courtroom with facts and not guesswork.  The author of the article you posted has a wonderful writing style, but he offers only guesswork, whereas Dr. Carver offers facts that destroy the official narrative of the Newtown Massacre.

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Wise words. Every black op since the JFK assassination has had layers of disinfo pre-positioned before the op was even executed. The perpetrators can then hide behind a fog of confusion, leading independent researchers around in circles for years while they sip their pina coladas and smoke expensive cigars. By the time anyone figures out what really happened, they are old and grey.

On the other hand, sometimes they get too arrogant and slip up, leaving many pieces of evidence behind. This could be what we are seeing here.

One thing is for sure - the official lone gunman story is a crock of you know what. We all agree on that.

Yes, we certainly do agree on that.  What I'm talking about is conspiracy theories based upon specious arguments which can easily be refuted, thus making the actual facts look bad in the reflected light of intellectual fraud based upon non-existent facts or contentions.

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So what gesture is the old man in the photo flashing? Devil Horns?

Yeah, it's satanic, though many are deceived into thinking it's a "salute" of sorts for "Hook'em Horns" for University of Texas Longhorns (not A&M).
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Yes, we certainly do agree on that.  What I'm talking about is conspiracy theories based upon specious arguments which can easily be refuted, thus making the actual facts look bad in the reflected light of intellectual fraud based upon nonexistent facts or contentions.
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             Your on the dime, FACTS are the key to exposure. Many times I have given opinions, I hope they have been interpreted as such.
I too agree  the folks on this site have done an amazing job investigating and for the most part have facts to back up their posts.
             The elites propaganda machine have done everything imaginable to degrade and insult anyone who may disagree with their fables, their MSM being a controlled asset. Unfortunately D. Carvers will not be a lead story on CNN. It's safe to say they have retaliated, we who see through their deceptions are labled, conspiracy theorists, tin hats, etc. Whistle blowers as well has become tinted, as if a man who stands up for the truth is obviously off his nut to question the official story. Have you ever had the feeling there are a % of citizens who realize fully what is taking place and to remain  socially acceptable (appearance's) they remain stump. The easy way out or is it fear.

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I think the article which you posted may be missing the point concerning Dr. Carver.


I think Dr. Carver was a proper hero in this matter, while merely doing his job properly.  
I'm not qualified to say anything one way or another on Dr. Carver's behalf but, I do know this...

It is not even remotely logical that there were no injuries of students.  In a situation where you have 600 students and a nut spraying bullets everywhere none of the students were injured?  

Even with the inured adults there is conflicting or nonsensical information about how or whether they even got injured.

Then, what is even more bazar is, out of a school of 600 students and staff not one living sole even saw the gun man (men?).  Except for a woman that hid in a closet but only saw a person from the knees down?

I was a photojournalist in NY and it is highly unusual that you would have medical paramedics stage off site for 4 hours.  Oh yeah, no one was injured.  ::)
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CT Shooting: LIBOR, CIA, Batman Movie Connections? --- thetruthergirls

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I have now read this entire thread from the beginning to this point...

In hindsight, the moment the talking point hit the MSM that the mother was a "prepper" who believed there will be an economic collapse was the moment I stopped believing a single word of the so-called official story.  The agenda driven stench continued to escalate from there.

Idiotic talking points and memes generated by media jackals never fail to expose how ridiculously stupid they truly believe we are.  The more cartoonish it gets, the more they sound like complete liars and fabricators.

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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #782 on: December 26, 2012, 02:46:48 pm »
Are there any photos of any of the murdered children?  I'm just asking.
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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #783 on: December 26, 2012, 02:53:52 pm »
Are there any photos of any of the murdered children?  I'm just asking.


Interestingly, NO! Paramedics were not allowed to enter the school. NO autopsy or crime scene photos released. Coroner says that facial photos were used to identify children to the families. They did not view the bodies directly. The only photos we see are stock "family" type photos.
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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #784 on: December 26, 2012, 04:15:29 pm »
Even this widely-released photo…



…has been questioned. I was wondering about the cone in the background.

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Update/Correction: Note that this photo of approximately fifteen children allegedly being evacuated from Sandy Hook Elementary was reportedly produced on December 14. See Connor Simpson, Alexander Abad-Santos et al, “Newtown School Shooting: Live Updates,” The Atlantic Wire, December 19, 2012. Still, the paltry number of children confirms the claim that little photographic evidence exists of Sandy Hook’s 600 students being moved from the facility on December 14. This photo was purportedly from a Tweet of a Sandy Hook drill published by the school’s slain principal Dawn Hochsprung titled, “Safety First.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

Here’s the referenced drill photo:


Similar longshadows and tree season in both photos.

Edit: For some reason, my photos are not rendering properly on this forum.

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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #785 on: December 26, 2012, 04:19:08 pm »
for reference the korean nurse school shooting One'l Go :

5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at California Christian university

He was from CIA central? ( like the Virginia Tech shooter)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57408614-504083/oakland-shooting-suspect-one-l-goh-was-upset-about-teasing-police-say/

April 3, 2012 11:44 AM
Oakland shooting suspect One L. Goh was upset about teasing, police say

Springfield - His brother and him  lived 15 miles from CIA - McLean Virginia.... Inside DC the beltway next to Bethesda (Naval Hospital) - Hayes, Va seems to be across from Yorktown Naval Weapons Station )

http://www.topix.com/wire/city/hayes-va

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Goh lived in Springfield and Hayes, Va.,
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When the media is immediately reporting the gunman acted alone and shot himself while the medical examiner says he doesnt think Lanza shot himself you have to be suspicious, unless you are a moron. Cheers Prison Planet Forum

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Robbie Parker is listed at the Danbury Hospital site but references “location” as Onsite Neonatal in Voorhees, NJ. Awfully long commute. IDK, maybe the hospital subcontracted?



This appears to be a main hub and recruiting site for P.A.s. So Parker appears to be just another one of their employees and finds his jobs through them (3 hr drive from NJ site to CT site, with flexible hours. So he might have commuted in the beginning until moving to CT 8 mths ago). Nothing unusual here. They partner with many hospitals around the USA and hire out PAs to those other sites (Note current openings in VA and CT, etc). It is interesting that the Danbury CT hospital is a partner with Yale University (see opening in Danbury, CT posting) and Gates Fdn gives grants to individuals at the hospital:
http://www.onsiteneonatal.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/content.page/nodeID/4d0056ee-5a8d-44a2-96e8-c20ebde45132/
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Parkers moved to CT 8 months ago mentioned here: (Scroll down to Emilie's info)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/16/connecticut-school-shooting-victims/1772955/
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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #788 on: December 27, 2012, 12:47:45 pm »

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friends, i need your help!!!!!! i am reposting this from my facebook page: Dearest family and friends: Saturday afternoon I was made aware that a photo I took on August 14, 2009, of Lily on her first day of kindergarten (the photo you see here), was found on multiple Facebook pages (8 that I know of at this time...3:30 a.m.) devoted to the horrific events in Connecticut. Written below the photo was, "R.I.P. to this little 6 year old angel who got killed in this horrible tragedy" and similar captions. This photo, MY PHOTO, of MY CHILD (this sweet, beautiful, alive and well child!), was taken from my Flickr page without my knowledge or consent and is fraudulently being used to garner 'likes' for these pages. Before we finally had it removed from one page, it had gotten 187,487 likes and 6,914 shares. I am so very afraid that I will not be able to 'fix' this. How on earth can I??? Honestly, this is beyond my comprehension. I need your help...all of you! With the vigilance, persistence, and kindness of family, friends, and complete strangers, we have gotten 7 of the pages to remove the photo. There is still one page out there (I'll link to it below) that has ignored my messages and repeated postings. I need you!!!! Please, please, please, please...if you see Lily's photo out there, send me the link, report the page to Facebook, and post on that page!!!!! I *never* 'share' things on FB, but I am asking you to share this and help to right a wrong. My heart is breaking for the victims and families in the wake of this horrific mass murder, and to exploit and further victimize other children is almost inconceiveable. much love to you all!!! Cathy Gaubert

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L.A. Gun buyback was given alot of tv news coverage ...  
Also note that in California "assault weapons" are defined as "semi-automatic"

This is what they want for the rest of nation ~~!
 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
On December 14, 2012, Adam Peter Lanza, age 20, fatally shot twenty children and six adult staff members and wounded two at Sandy Hook Elementary School in the Sandy Hook village of Newtown, Connecticut

Two days later!!! --->
http://www.therightperspective.org/2012/12/16/feinstein-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban/
12/16/2012


Democratic Senator Diane Feinstein of California announced Sunday she would introduce legislation banning assault weapons next month when the new session of congress convenes.
 
“We’re crafting this one. It’s being done with care. It’ll be ready on the first day,” Senator Feinstein said on Meet the Press. ”We’ll be prepared to go, and I hope the nation will really help.”
 
Senator Feinstein described the new bill as a “perfected” version of the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban she helped champion. That legislation was not renewed by the Bush administration when it expired in 2004.
 
“We believe we have (perfected it).,” Senator Feinstein said. “We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … ‘weapons of war’ off the street of our cities.”


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57560908-504083/l.a-gun-buyback-gives-grocery-gift-cards-in-exchange-for-firearms/
December 27, 2012 9:00 AM
L.A. gun buyback gives grocery gift cards in exchange for firearms

 LOS ANGELES-- The city of Los Angeles offered gift certificates to local grocery stores to residents who turned in their guns as part of the annual gun buyback program on Dec. 26, reports CBS Los Angeles.

The program was moved up by city officials from May 2013 to Dec. 26 due to the Conn. elementary school shooting that left 26 dead, including 20 children.
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Residents were able to anonymously turn in their firearms from at the Los Angeles Sports Arena and the Van Nuys Masonic Temple.

... the city offered Ralph's gift cards up to $100 in exchange for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and gift cards up to $200 for Calif. classified assault weapons.

The city netted 1,673 firearms, a four-year low, at the buyback program last May. Authorities recovered 53 assault weapons, 791 handguns, 527 rifles, 302 shotguns and one anti-tank rocket launcher, according to the station.
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The buyback event was hosted by the Los Angeles Police Department and Mayor Villaraigosa's Gang Reduction and Youth Development Program.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/awguide.pdf

Category 1. The Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989
This was California’s first assault weapons act. Under this act, any firearm on a list specified in Penal Code
section 12276 is considered an assault weapon
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AK and AR-15 series weapons were controlled as of August 16, 2000, and must have been registered as assault weapons with the Department of Justice on or before January 23, 2001. The only legal option for Category 2 assault weapons that were not registered on or before January 23, 2001, is to surrender them to law enforcement pursuant to Penal Code section 12288. These assault weapons are controlled regardless of whether they have Category 3 (Penal Code section 12276.1 - SB 23) characteristics.
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CHAPTER 2.3. ROBERTI-ROOS ASSAULT WEAPONS
CONTROL ACT OF 1989 LISTING

12276. As used in this chapter, “assault weapon” shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the
models identified as follows:
(A)Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47,
AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D)MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR
110C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match,
and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1.
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1) UZI.
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
(3) The following MAC types:
(A)RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
(C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
(D)Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
(4) Intratec TEC-9.
(5) Sites Spectre.
(6) Sterling MK-7.
(7) Calico M-950.
(8) Bushmaster Pistol.
(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
(2) Striker 12.
(3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.
(d) Any firearm declared by the court pursuant to
Section 12276.5 to be an assault weapon that is
specified as an assault weapon in a list promulgated
pursuant to Section 12276.5.
(e) The term “series” includes all other models that
are only variations with minor differences, of
those models listed in subdivision (a), regardless
of the manufacturer.

http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/resources/faq.html?view=category&layout=categorylist&task=lists&catid=4
There are two ways a firearm can be considered an assault weapon under California law.

Category I and II:
The first way a weapon may be categorized as an assault weapon is based on name. Certain firearms are banned by name and are illegal in any configuration.

Category I assault weapons are those listed in the "Kasler List" originally banned in 1989. Later, Category II AR and AK "series" weapons were also banned by name. The two lists have been combined into one and it comprises all guns that are banned by name, and is located here
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For example: An Uzi is illegal to own in any configuration in California because it is banned by name. Uzi is not the only manufacturer of “Uzi style” receivers. If one purchases an “Uzi-style” receiver that is not stamped “IMI UZI”, but is dimensionally identical, he can put Uzi parts on that receiver and build a functional weapon that is legal to own provided he follows all other assault weapon laws.
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A registered assault weapon is a weapon that was registered with the Department of Justice prior to the sunset for any weapon configured as an Assault Weapon at that time.  Just because you bought the gun from a gun store, and you "registered" the gun with the police department, that does NOT make it a registered assault weapon.  You would have had to file the appropriate forms, and taken fingerprints, by the due date, for your weapon to be considered a legal, registered assault weapon.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080612143157AAW0Btc

What assault rifles are legal in california?
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Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

At the present time all assault weapons are illegal to buy in California--fortunately they define assault weapon rathers tightly. Several firearms are listed by model and manufacturer and a generic list of characteristics is included. A list of specifically prohibited firearms is available at the California DOJ website. I will include the list of features taken from the actual statute. Several makers currently offer California legal AR type weapons.

You can also buy an "off list" receiver and put one together yourself so that it does not violate the current law. The key is to make sure that your semi-automatic centerfire rifle does not have a magazine that is removable without the use of a tool. Have fun and good luck.  ...


Nimmo article:
http://www.infowars.com/feinstein-targets-gun-culture-as-democrats-prepare-new-attacks-on-2nd-amendment/
Feinstein Vows to Introduce Assault Weapons Ban Bill
Feinstein Targets “Gun Culture” as Democrats Prepare New Attacks on 2nd Amendment
Kurt Nimmo
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December 16, 2012
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“I will do another assault weapons ban,” she [Fienstein] promised.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/sb-249-ca-sen-leland-yee-gun-control-bill_n_1752190.html
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With Senate Bill 249, Sen. Leland Yee (D-San Francisco) is trying to close a loophole in one of the California gun control laws, which already includes some of the toughest restrictions in the nation.

It is currently illegal in California for manufacturers to sell certain guns with detachable magazines, or the storage areas that allow for repeat firing. To get around the law, manufacturers have been selling guns with tools, or conversion kits, that allow one to reload in seconds. Yee's bill seeks to ban such devices, including “bullet buttons” and "mag magnets."

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The move comes after recent mass shootings in Aurora, Colo., and Milwaukee. The alleged shooter in Aurora used an AR-15, which is legal with a conversion kit in California, although the 100-round magazine he used is not.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=605484

Thanks to your hard work and support, we've defeated SB 249 twice now. The "conversion kit" ban was such an unpassable mess that Senator Yee has had to gut and amend SB 249 - again - and create an entirely new bill. We look forward to defeating this fourth iteration of SB 249 and hope you'll continue to help us Stop SB 249.

http://stopsb249.org/


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for reference the korean nurse school shooting One'l Go :

5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at California Christian university
He was from CIA central? ( like the Virginia Tech shooter)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57408614-504083/oakland-shooting-suspect-one-l-goh-was-upset-about-teasing-police-say/
Oakland shooting suspect One L. Goh was upset about teasing, police say
April 3, 2012 11:44 AM
Springfield - His brother and him  lived 15 miles from CIA - McLean Virginia.... Inside DC the beltway next to Bethesda (Naval Hospital) - Hayes, Va seems to be across from Yorktown Naval Weapons Station )

According to police and witnesses, Goh ordered students in a nursing class to line up against a classroom wall and shot them, one-by-one, with a .45 caliber pistol.

http://www.topix.com/wire/city/hayes-va
The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Goh lived in Springfield and Hayes, Va., ... Goh is a South Korean national from Hayes, Virginia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15s_in_California

California Legal AR-15's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0VQWRVipWA

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Toy Gun ‘Ban’ Re-Launched In California

An anti-toy guns project that was initially launched in California in 1987 has begun anew. Santa Monica activist Jerry Rubin decided to re-launch the toy gun removal program after the tragedy at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.
 
Rubin mailed a “personalized merit award” to all the children who sent him a letter and explained why they did not enjoy playing with toy guns, according to Fox News.  The California man ended the toy gun exchange after he ran out of teddy bears to give to the children who turned in their pretend guns. Rubin allegedly gave out 5,000 stuffed bears during the original run of the anti-toy gun campaign.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/454891/toy-gun-ban-re-launched-in-california/#UyPcMCwb1X2ukdd9.99
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Parkers moved to CT 8 months ago mentioned here: (Scroll down to Emilie's info)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/16/connecticut-school-shooting-victims/1772955/

That would put them there in April, 2012. Yet, he’s certified in the state of CT 6 months prior to that. I suppose it’s possible -- living separate from family for 6 months.
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The GLP crew has tied the car's owner, Rodia, to a the Latin Kings and a gun running ring, even with implications that one or more of Nancy Lanza's guns were made custom for her by these same gun runners.  The recipe for this op is shaping up as one part Gladio, one part Fast and Furious, and one part Columbine:




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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #794 on: December 27, 2012, 04:45:58 pm »
How many other ex-cons on parole decided to book it to the infamous crime scene and be interviewed and photographed ???

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/jonathan-lee-riches-violated-687543
Sandy Hook Hoaxer Busted By Federal Agents

Felon who claimed to be Adam Lanza's uncle collared

DECEMBER 26--A convicted felon who traveled to Newtown, Connecticut and masqueraded as the uncle of Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza has been arrested on a federal probation violation charge, The Smoking Gun has learned.
 
Jonathan Lee Riches was busted late last week and booked into the Chester County jail. Riches, 35, has been living in West Chester, Pennsylvania since his release earlier this year from federal prison, where he spent a decade in custody for conspiracy and wire fraud
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Riches, however, did turn up at a makeshift memorial site in Newtown, where he identified himself to reporters as “Jonathan Lanza,” uncle of the school shooter. As reported by the New York Daily News and other media outlets, he told journalists that the killer had been taking Fanapt, an antipsychotic drug prescribed for the treatment of schizophrenia. As photographers snapped away, Riches (seen below) dropped to a knee and feigned praying for the young victims.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lee_Riches
Jonathan Lee Riches is a former prisoner (inmate #40948-018)[1] known for the many lawsuits he has filed in various United States district courts.[2] Riches was incarcerated at Federal Medical Center, Lexington, Kentucky, for wire fraud under the terms of a plea bargain.

His release date was April 30, 2012.[3] The state of his mental health is not publicly known and it has not been concluded whether all the lawsuits Riches has filed are genuine or if he is just trying to amuse himself.[4][5]
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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #795 on: December 27, 2012, 05:04:49 pm »
Agreed.  I've seen people respond to tragedy in similar ways in the past.  Emotions can run vary strange and varied, as part of the defense mechanisms of the human brain.  I don't believe it's acting.

I have seen people who lost a loved one. *I* have lost a loved one.

The guy is either acting... or he's seriously disturbed (and not from grief)...

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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #796 on: December 27, 2012, 05:33:44 pm »
 What parent wouldn't demand to see the body of their child, no matter what condition they are in, no matter mucken  what.
A photo, come on, that doesn't  get there folks.
 I have a bad time with this, what did they tell their mothers and  dads, its to gruesome, its for your own good, BULLSHIITE, any parent has the God given right/ human right to shed tears, to display emotions to let out the frugen pain, no matter FN what.. END.
 

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Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
« Reply #797 on: December 27, 2012, 07:10:12 pm »
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Felon who claimed to be Adam Lanza's uncle collared

Well, there you go! I knew the "uncle" was speaking out of turn about the medications and had no right to speak of it.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)

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NO RIFLE USED @ SANDY HOOK BY ALLEGED NUT GUN MAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU&feature=youtu.be
When you mix 'lunatics in authority' with the 'Milgram Effect' (societal obedience to authority) you have a very deadly combination on your hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQX4N5mt_Yg

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grabbed that b4 it poofs down the memory hole.