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Alex just dropped a bombshell on the today's broadcast regarding the globalist view of the FAMILY. He said that they believe it is an archaic institution and for the modern world like any disease, it should be eliminated...
WOW! he said that he read it in a sociology textbook some years ago... has anyone run across this thing..? Lets put our minds and bandwidth together toward the task of ferreting this thing out. When you find anything, post it here.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 10:24:26 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 10:44:56 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 10:56:07 AM » |
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Arthur W. Calhoun, "A Social History of The American Family: From Colonial Times to the Present"
"American history consummates the disappearance of the wider [or extended] familism and the substitution of the parentalism of society.... The new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to society rather than to the family; the family goes back to the age of savagery while the state belongs to the age of civilization. The modern individual is a world citizen, served by the world, and home interests can no longer be supreme."
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 11:00:35 AM » |
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As great a quote as that is, that book seems to have been published in 1917. We're looking for something within the last 15 years or so.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 11:05:27 AM » |
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The Family in America Series ( Eugenics - Sick!) -population micromanagement -family micromanagement -population "quality" and control +- soft eugenics http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/series/sid/01058693------ Social Work John H. Ehrenreich, The Altruistic Imagination: A History of Social Work and Social Policy in the United States (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1985). Regina G. Kunzel, Fallen Women, Problem Girls: Unmarried Mothers and the Professionalization of Social Work, 1890-1945 (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1993). Miriam Van Waters, “The New Morality and the Social Worker,” Proceedings of the National Conference of Social Work (Chicago, 1929), 65-79. Daniel Walkowitz, Working with Class: Social Workers and the Politics of Middle-Class Identity (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1999). http://www.uoregon.edu/~adoption/reading.html---- "This article details the eugenics movement; examines why young women, particularly those who were poor, non-Anglo-Saxon, and living in urban areas, were targeted as the key to preventing the unfit from propagating; and explores the relationship between eugenics and early social workers, focusing particular attention on their work with young women." http://aff.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/23/1/22http://www.google.com/search?q=social+work+eugenics+family&client=wyzo&rls=com.wyzo&channel=s&hl=en---- Some chick testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the traditional roles of the man and the woman should be eliminated. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/senate/judiciary/sh103-482/517-529.pdfUnited States Social Policy http://devplw.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/sdi/vbook/browse?type=lcsubc&key=United%20States%20%2d%2d%20Social%20policy%20%2d%2d%20Abstracts |
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 11:14:37 AM » |
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Since Alex is checking, here's an interesting document on the police state and the rise in SWAT raids. It's called Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids In America by Radley Balko. It also documents some public school raids I believe, I haven't gotten that far into it. http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdfYeah, there's a textbook example of a paramilitary raid on a public school on page 18. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2008, 11:42:47 AM » |
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"Sociology: A Brief Introduction"
by Richard T. Schaefer
This is probably the most widely used college textbook for intro to sociology.
On page 285 discusses the approach to family of "Conflict Theorists":
"Conflict theorists also view the family as an economic unit that contributes to societal injustice. The family is the basis for transferring power, property, and privilege from one generation to the next ... conflict theorists argue that the family helps to maintain inequality."
Remember that most college textbooks do not tell you what is the case, they summarize what various scholars in the field argue is the case. And so in an intro textbook, you'll read what functionalists think, conflict theorists (marxists), feminists, etc.
I'm a college professor, by the way, but not in the field of sociology.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2008, 12:07:16 PM » |
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Arthur W. Calhoun, "A Social History of The American Family: From Colonial Times to the Present"
"American history consummates the disappearance of the wider [or extended] familism and the substitution of the parentalism of society.... The new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to society rather than to the family; the family goes back to the age of savagery while the state belongs to the age of civilization. The modern individual is a world citizen, served by the world, and home interests can no longer be supreme."
is alex talking about this ^^^^^^^ ? person? |
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2008, 12:09:15 PM » |
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Here's the guy Craig Calhoun http://sociology.fas.nyu.edu/object/craigcalhoun.htmlProfessor of Sociology D.Phil. 1980 (Sociology and History), Oxford University; M.A. 1975 (Social Anthropology), Manchester University; M.A. 1974 (Anthropology), Columbia University; B.A. 1972 (Anthropology), University of Southern California. Office Address: 295 Lafayette St., Room 4139 Office Hours: T 5:00pm - 6:20pm Phone: (212) 998-8348 Personal Homepage: http://www.ssrc.org/calhoun Email: craig.calhoun@nyu.edu |
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2008, 12:09:51 PM » |
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ahh nevermind u got it
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2008, 12:13:25 PM » |
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Does anyone have the link to this guy's YouTube video attacking Alex?
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2008, 12:16:48 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2008, 12:24:11 PM » |
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Remember, though, that Calhoun is the *editor* of an anthology of readings in the field of sociology. So you can't impute the words of one of the included articles to him as the editor. For instance, he includes famous essays by people like Marcuse. Several of Calhoun's books are edited collections of readings for students. These usually include a representative sample of various voices in the given field. So, for instance, your average "ethics" anthology will contain articles arguing against abortion and articles arguing for abortion. I'm not saying that Alex is wrong, just that we need to blame the idea that family is a disease on the person who actually argued that way, not on the editor of the anthology.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2008, 12:51:22 PM » |
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Here Alex.
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2008, 12:51:30 PM » |
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bump... this is a great interview with Charlotte!
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2008, 12:59:03 PM » |
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smallbeans, it looks like you had the right Calhoun, I thought it was a more recent book we were looking for. Good one!
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2008, 01:05:57 PM » |
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Yah, if he had written a little more of the quote, perhaps Alex would have recognized it.
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2008, 01:28:31 PM » |
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WOW!!! You guys really scrambled in a timely manner on this one... Bravo...to one and all for a job well done... great research guys!
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2008, 04:13:51 PM » |
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THIS was posted (By Myself) on my OLDEST YAHOO GROUP, "FreighttrainDomain" on December 26, 2001 7:33 pm. I collect anything that THREATENS ME & MY FAMILY, and the IDEOLOGY in the PUBLIC SCHOOL teachers PRONOTING a GUILT CONSCIENESS to prepare people to ACCEPT DEATH, MASS EXTERMINATION of USELESS EATERS. A Human Virus Wednesday, December 24, 1997 The Kansas City Star I am a 17-year-old senior at Shawnee Mission West High School. My teacher passed an article around which caught my attention. The article was about the Earth and us being its virus. Here we are sitting and complaining about our health and how we destroy our bodies. But what about the Earth? Aren't we destroying it? The Earth is our home. She is our host and we represent the infectious disease which eats up her immune system. Like a virus, we cannot survive without our host. So like any immune system trying to fight off infectious diseases, the earth is trying to fight us off by invading us with her "killer T-cells." [Obviously they have not watched the video AIDS, EBOLA, AND VACCINATIONS by Len Horowitz which tells us that the "killer T-cells" in the AIDS virus were created in a laboratory and purposely injected into the human blood stream.] Maybe the Earth's way of killing us off is by creating all these diseases. Maybe the Earth is fighting for her life like we are for ours. Maybe the Earth's way of doing this is by infecting us with incurable illnesses. Maybe we should start taking better care of ourselves and our Earth. Michelle Yaronvinsky Overland Park. [This is the attitude of our teachers having been trained by the New World Order school system. One day they will say it is time to kill the virus, then where will the Christians be? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreighttrainDomain/message/14 |
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 09:19:24 AM » |
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I believe this is the page from his book that Alex has been referring to. It's right out of the Communist Manifesto Classical Sociological Theory (Blackwell Readers in Sociology (Paper). By Craig Calhoun, Joseph Gerteis, James Moody, Steven Pfaff, Kathryn E. Schmidt, Indermohan Virk Page 87:  |
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 11:11:31 AM » |
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Wow, you're right... it may as well have been written by Marx!
What the hell is wrong with these people?
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 03:21:54 PM » |
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Alex gave us a wave today... 6 minutes into the second segment of the first hour of Today's Show, (07/08/11), while he talked about the "storage unit family" and his analysis and conclusions after 5 days of researching their situation... he made reference to this Prison Planet Forum thread. Researched by the membership here, three and a half years ago... good job guys!
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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2013, 03:12:41 PM » |
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Once again, in the first segment of the show today, 04/07/13... (Duke's 5th birthday, btw...) Alex gave the Forum a wave for the quick research we did that produced the information in this thread back in January 2008...
A wave back big guy...
Now he needs the cites for "We have your children, so we WILL get your guns." or quotes similar... any that are out there that use economic, cultural, or other forms of open coercion to force us to disarm.
JTCoyoté
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under
which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason
firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every
fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because if there be one, he must
more approve of the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear." ~Thomas Jefferson
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2013, 06:42:48 PM » |
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Once again, in the first segment of the show today, 04/07/13... (Duke's 5th birthday, btw...) Alex gave the Forum a wave for the quick research we did that produced the information in this thread back in January 2008...
A wave back big guy...
Now he needs the cites for "We have your children, so we WILL get your guns." or quotes similar... any that are out there that use economic, cultural, or other forms of open coercion to force us to disarm.
JTCoyoté
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under
which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason
firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every
fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because if there be one, he must
more approve of the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear." ~Thomas Jefferson
The Humanist Manifesto (summery):1) Abolition of Private property. 2) Heavy Progressive Tax. 3 ) Abolition of all Rights of Inheritance. 4 ) Confiscation of property from all rebels and emigrants. 5 ) Central Bank by the government. 6 ) Government control of Communications and Transportation. 7 ) Government ownership of factories ans agriculture. 8 ) Government control over entire workforce. 9 ) Government ownership of, and, control over all corporate farms, and in charge of Regional Planning. [Agenda 21]! 10 ) GOVERMENT CONTROL OF EDUCATION. [take the children and form a new nation, and thus KILL THE CLAN]! All 10 on this list are designed to kill the Family....this is their 101 SINISTER PLAN...( i am sorry there is not a net link...only what i have written)..we can stop their game of hate/ with the LOVE of FREEDOM...peace mates! |
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2013, 09:09:52 PM » |
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iamc2,
The ten planks of "communism" from the Communist Manifesto which is essentially what you have posted here... are of course the absolute basis, the foundation blocks if you will, of any modern "authoritarian" top down political system... which is the gateway to classical slavery and eugenics.
Thanks for posting them.
I think what Alex is specifically looking for are actual quotes by individuals speaking the kind of coercive statements that impart their intent to exert power over individuals against their will... like, "you can choose food or your guns, your kids or your guns, or you can choose your life or your guns but you can't have both" ... that kind of thing.
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2013, 09:51:43 PM » |
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iamc2,
The ten planks of "communism" from the Communist Manifesto which is essentially what you have posted here... are of course the absolute basis, the foundation blocks if you will, of any modern "authoritarian" top down political system... which is the gateway to classical slavery and eugenics.
Thanks for posting them.
I think what Alex is specifically looking for are actual quotes by individuals speaking the kind of coercive statements that impart their intent to exert power over individuals against their will... like, "you can choose food or your guns, your kids or your guns, or you can choose your life or your guns but you can't have both" ... that kind of thing.
JTCoyoté
"The course of history shows that as a
government grows, liberty decreases."
~Thomas Jefferson
JTCoytote, my friend and brother; I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM [more of the youth could learn from the Old and Wise Coytote], and I only Re-Posted the Nazi Program for a Re-think of What they are doing! This is new: here in Nazi NYS: Many Truth-Seekers Here in Monroe County [from WASB 1310 AM radio] attended a bogus county meeting [4/9/13], that is open to the public: But there are ARMED Guards [sheriffs' deputies], this meeting was about a NEW LAW to SPY on Antique Dealers: ...and as usual the meeting was a staged Assault on our FREEDOM's! This is the Truth of What I saw: 'A [little older lady] Nun from a local charity Had her microphone Shut Off and she was escorted from the podium by a armed guard! and the goons showed us how to grow TULIPS? as Mr. Jones says' 'ya can't make this up!' The Nazis' are Nuts and Loose!....Peace Mates...we march on to FREEDOM!!! |
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