4 dead, 30 shot in Wisconsin Sikh Temple

[Valerius]

As above, the official story has been changed again. The police didn't shoot him, he shot himself.

Be sure to update your newspeak dictionaries accordingly.

[chris jones]

Effie's quote:What's wrong with people who can't comprehend that initial reports during chaotic, traumatic events are never completely accurate?  It's amazing what you'll believe as absolute truth if it happens to fit what you wish was true.

EffieThe lie is palable, the truth isn't.  In short, Human Nature is a true bitch, couple this with the  Gov & MSM's spoon feeding the BS to the people. The NWO are a combination of psychotic tricksters, they have used mans nature as a staging ground for generations, this is the end game.
 In the vast majorities heart of hearts they know the truth, it's simply easier to ignore the reality. I remember well the 3 K's being killed, LBJ and his FF Gulf of Tonkin and expansion of the war. Old news so the MSM faces say. How about Iraq and the hunt for WMD's, no need to continue is there.
 We have been fed Shiite sandwiches without the bread for as along as I can remember. The bottom line, the vast majority will not react until the Shiite storm is in their back yard,or to say, when they have no option whatsoever.
The bubble people, convince themselves it can't happen here and our (gov controlled) nightly news enforces this attitude.
  I can't help but saying,all of this reminds me of the  movie the Matrix without the theatrics.
 

 

[chris jones]

Another twist,
There was some drama during Thursday's mostly procedural hearing. A woman seated in the second-to-last row of the courtroom stood up and said she had evidence of judicial misconduct on behalf of the public defender.

"I tried to deliver information vital to the defense of James Holmes to the public defender," the woman--in a red dress with a shaved head--said, her voice shaking.
Whatever this gal had to say will never be heard.

[scandilous]

Shock of the Century (Sarc.): Surveillance Cameras at Sikh Temple Were OFF During Shooting on Aug. 5th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ7DQnxyt0g

[pac522]

Eric Holder attended the funereal today as the president's representative. How f**king pathetic.

[starvosan]

He's probably just trying to figure out how to 'brainwash' all the witnesses into going along with the lone gunman theory.

[chris jones]

 I having a bad time with the tatoo of 911. Just an instinct flaring up, but its highly visible and being used as a identification.
 We have to deal with another shooter who's hair was dyed orange, high visibility.
 Imagery, how many people will truly remember the faces of these guys, but they will remember the tat and the hair, would you agree   this is a tad base imagery. Hell folks, it just doesn't sit well with me, I get  the feeling these images their dishing out are easily mimiked.
 Wigs for one, removeable tats as well.
 
 

[Brocke]

I having a bad time with the tatoo of 911. Just an instinct flaring up, but its highly visible and being used as a identification.
 We have to deal with another shooter who's hair was dyed orange, high visibility.
 Imagery, how many people will truly remember the faces of these guys, but they will remember the tat and the hair, would you agree   this is a tad base imagery. Hell folks, it just doesn't sit well with me, I get  the feeling these images their dishing out are easily mimiked.
 Wigs for one, removeable tats as well.

This is a really good point! I was thinking the same thing about the orange hair. You have a merc hit the front of the theater wearing an orange clown fright wig then any patsy sitting in a car 10 feet from the exit will be automatically guilty. In a dark theater who can see a face?

There is a reason that orange (Safety Orange) is used as the color for safety cones


Safety orange (also known as blaze orange, vivid orange, Caltrans orange, or Omaha orange) is a hue. Its deeper, more saturated shade is known as international orange. Safety orange is used to set objects apart from their surroundings, particularly in complementary contrast to the azure color of the sky (azure is the complementary color of orange, and therefore there is a very strong contrast between the two colors). The color is commonly used for high-visibility clothing.

ANSI standard Z535.1–1998 states how safety orange is defined in the following notation systems:

    Munsell Notation:

    5.0YR (Hue) 6.0/15 (Value/Chroma)

    Approximate PMS (Pantone) Color (actually, mixing directions):

    13 parts Yellow, 3 parts Warm Red, 1/4 part Black

Safety orange is the same color as blaze orange, the shade of orange (Color No. 12199) required by United States law (U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, Title 15 Commerce and Foreign Trade, Section 1150.3) to be on the tips of barrels of replica guns such as airsoft guns, and cap or toy guns.

Safety orange is the color usually used in the United States for traffic cones, stanchions, barrels, and other construction zone marking devices. OSHA requires that certain construction equipment must be painted safety orange. Two large trucking companies, Allied Van Lines and Schneider National, paint their trucks and trailers safety orange. In Europe, Dayglo orange (or "luminous orange"; RAL 2005) serves the same purpose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_orange

Fluorescent yellow-green is the best choice during the day—and best all-around choice for a single color. But as dusk sets in and lighting gets dim, orange-red and red start to become more prominent. (It has to do with the fact that your eyeballs rely on both rods and cones to see colors, that it uses them in different combinations depending on ambient light levels, and that rods and cones are more sensitive to different wavelengths of light. Newsweek had a great [urlhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/10/14/see-me-don-t-kill-me.html]article[/url] on this topic in October 2009.
http://equipped.outdoors.org/2010/06/brightest-most-visible-safety-colors.html

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First time I've really looked into this, and the news reports are...strange.

Did you know that the ADL is tracking "white supremacists"?  They knew about Wade and his girlfriend...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-shooting-guns-20120807,0,7536671.story

Cook shared Wade’s fascination with the white power movement, according to the Anti-Defamation League, which monitors extremist groups. The ADL had information on Page and Cook going back several years, and ADL researchers said Page appeared to have moved to Wisconsin to be with her.

So, what are we to believe?  That the ADL has a file on anyone who ever visited Stormfront or any of the othe racist/nazi websites?  Were they reading his e-mails?  How did their "researchers" get info for the file?  Fricking amazing...

[hardrain77]

The interesting thing about the tattoo is that from his photos, Page was nearly covered in tattoos. He had sleeves practically. Seems if you were identifying him in a shooting, you wouldn't mention one 9/11 piece, you would've mentioned that he was heavily tatted up. The collective of artwork on his arms would stick out before any one 9/11 tattoo would. The skulls and Nazi tats would stick out more.

The 'person of interest' who was cleared did have a 9/11 tattoo on his arm easily recognizable.

[chris jones]

The interesting thing about the tattoo is that from his photos, Page was nearly covered in tattoos. He had sleeves practically. Seems if you were identifying him in a shooting, you wouldn't mention one 9/11 piece, you would've mentioned that he was heavily tatted up. The collective of artwork on his arms would stick out before any one 9/11 tattoo would. The skulls and Nazi tats would stick out more.

The 'person of interest' who was cleared did have a 9/11 tattoo on his arm easily recognizable.

Exactly:The 'person of interest' who was cleared did have a 9/11 tattoo on his arm easily recognizable.
           Hardrain, good point though it sems as if attention is focused on this tat, but I'll stick with the 911 tatoo job, and the other shooters hair  ya have to admit calls a tad of attention.             

[TahoeBlue]

interesting - CNN trots out  (Anti-Goverment) "HATE GROUPS" numbers are on the rise report and point to the Sikh temple ex-army mkultra insane killer.

They (the Southern Poverty Law Center)  point to the patriot movement and Tea party... Oh yeah are equal to the KKK and skinheads and other ilk groups - just lump all of them together for convenience  ...
 

The three-year trend amounts to an "astounding" 755% growth since 2008, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center report "The Year in Hate & Extremism: The Patriot Movement Explodes."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/07/us/white-supremacist-groups/index.html
'Swimming upstream,' white supremacist groups still strong
 By the CNN Wire Staff
 updated 10:46 AM EDT, Tue August 7, 2012

(CNN) -- Hundreds of white supremacist groups are active in the United States today and are experiencing a kind of resurgence, experts say.
 
They are in the spotlight this week in the wake of a deadly shooting at a Sikh temple outside Milwaukee. Authorities have said they are looking into whether the gunman, who was killed, had ties to such a group.
...
Currently, there are more than 1,000 hate groups in the United States, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks them and says it was tracking the Wisconsin gunman for years before the attack.
...
Wade Michael Page, 40, was a "frustrated neo-Nazi," said the center. His tattoos included the Celtic cross adopted by white supremacist groups, and he was a member of two "racist skinhead" bands, it said.
...
In addition, he was associated with Hammerskin Nation, according to Mark Potok, director of the center. "Hammerskins are the scariest, most violent skinhead group out there


http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/08/report-number-of-u-s-anti-government-groups-rises-for-third-year/
Report: Number of U.S. anti-government groups rises for third year
By the CNN Wire Staff
 
(CNN) - The number of anti-government groups in the United States grew dramatically in 2011 for a third year, fueled by a rising tide against President Barack Obama, the struggling economy and illegal immigration, a report released Thursday finds.
 
The three-year trend amounts to an "astounding" 755% growth since 2008, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center report "The Year in Hate & Extremism: The Patriot Movement Explodes."

The report attributes the growth to "superheated fears generated by economic dislocation, the changing racial makeup of America, and the prospect of four more years under a black president who many on the far right view as an enemy to their country."


Since its start in 1994, the so-called Patriot Movement has fluctuated in size based on political events - peaking in 1996 after the Oklahoma City bombing before fading to relative obscurity in 2000, according to the report. Its most recent rise can be traced to late 2008 - the start of the economy's collapse and the election of Obama as president.
...

[TahoeBlue]

bump - for precursor to Sandy Hook

[larsonstdoc]

interesting - CNN trots out  (Anti-Goverment) "HATE GROUPS" numbers are on the rise report and point to the Sikh temple ex-army mkultra insane killer.

They (the Southern Poverty Law Center)  point to the patriot movement and Tea party... Oh yeah are equal to the KKK and skinheads and other ilk groups - just lump all of them together for convenience  ...
  

  OK ADL and SPLC.  This is the TRUTH.  TAKE NOTES.

  MOST PATRIOT GROUPS AND TEA PARTY GROUPS LOVE THE UNITED STATES AND LOATHE THEIR GOVERNMENT (BECAUSE IT IS A GOVERNMENT TAKEN OVER BY FOREIGN INTERESTS).

  THE ADL AND THE SPLC LOVE THE GOVERNMENT AND LOATHE THE UNITED STATES.

[Due_Process_NonNegotiable]

A man who said his father had been wounded in the incident reported that there had been multiple shooters of Caucasian descent, quoting people inside the temple. "It was a very coordinated thing," the man, identified as Amardeep Kaleka, told police.

A possibility could be, the witnesses saw the officer and shooter shooting it out, and heard gunshots from multiple locations.  Not saying that's what it was, but it's a possibility, especially when details are still being "worked out"..